Does Holyfield have chance with Valuev ?

[Artani]

One of the best fighter ever, Evander Holyfield will fight this weekend with Nicolai Valuev. My question here is, can Holy beats Valuev.... very dificult, because years doing are importent and Holy is old and not like before. I cant see Valuev beating Holyfield in the saturday. I would like with all my heart to see again Holy like champion. He is legend and boxing needs kind of fighters. The era of Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, Lewis will not back again.

[Mendoza]

I think Holy has a real shot. He can counter well, and Valuev is not the type to press the action.

[Toney]

I cant imagine Holyfield winning. I just cant see how that could happend.

[rusty nails]

at this point id say valuev is bigger, stronger, faster, hits harder, has better defense, better reflexes, and is less ring worn..
holyfields only strengths are aggression and heart..
hell be ko'd inside 8 rounds

[turbina]

I give Holyfield almost 0 chances to win this fight.

Valuev is too young for him, has better stamina, has a good chin, has enough power to KO him, and will be able to keep Holyfield away for most of the fight with his jab.

If Holyfield tries to get inside I can see Valuev clinching and leaning all 330lbs (?) on Holyfield, even further tiring him, then eventually finishing him off. I think the main problem Holyfield will face in this fight is fatigue. Valuev is too big for him.

[Toney]

holyfields only strengths are aggression

When has Holyfield fought an aggressive fight the last time? Has he done it in 2000 --> ?

[FROST]

I tell you this, Artani: I will also root for Holyfield with all my heart on Saturday.

BUT I do not seriously think he can win. Even if we suppose that Holyfield hasn't faded even more since his last fight (against Ibragimov) - where he was already slow and couldn't pull the trigger but still had somewhat decent stamina and footwork - he will not have much of a chance. True, Holyfield is still dangerous against slow fighters who stand before him, and Valuev is one of those. True, Holyfield still has better infight skills than Valuev. HOWEVER, he will have a hard time to get close enough to Valuev, who has a substantial reach advantage and will probably keep Holyfield at the end of his jab for the whole evening. Holyfield might have a small chance if Valuev gets injured or something, but he can't KO Valuev or win on points in Germany. If somehow he should still win, by a miracle, he should retire the same evening, on another career high.

And even if he loses but manages to go the distance at age 46, he should be considered the winner (but still retire).

[NBT]

No chance at all, it would be success for Holyfield to win a round or two. I don't think that Valuev will push for a knockout, that's generally not his style and he has also expressed a lot of respect for Holyfield which will probably keep him from trying to seriously hurt Holyfield. Valuev is perfectly aware that this is a ridiculous mismatch and the fight shouldn't happen, he said that he doesn't want to fight Holyfield. But ultimatly it's not his decision, he has to fight what's put in front of him. Holyfield should have retired years ago, at least after the Toney fight, but we all know that. If he keeps on going he would probably get title shots until he is 50 just because of his name.

[dupin]

There are only 2 other options possible than an UD for Valuev, and that's when the fight is stopped later to save Holyfield punishment or Valuev has a heartattack.

[Sakura]

I do not think so. Valuev has evolved considerably as aboxer. His jab has already been reasonably good, and he uses it much more, than in the past. Moreover, his boxing skills have evolved and the sheer size and scope to provide interest against Holyfield. Valuev ud or late rounds TKO

[Buggo]

FROST he will have a hard time to get close enough to Valuev, who has a substantial reach advantage and will probably keep Holyfield at the end of his jab for the whole evening.

This pretty much sums up of how this fight will go.

[Farmboxer]

I have to pick Valouev to beat Holyfield, should be a mismatch.

[mexican legend]

No.

[gregor]

HOWEVER, he will have a hard time to get close enough to Valuev, who has a substantial reach advantage and will probably keep Holyfield at the end of his jab for the whole evening.
Valuev has size, but he does not have enough skills/speed to use it effectively. Ruiz had no problems with Valuev reach advantage, and both his fights with Valuev were very close. Actually, most of Valuev fights with decent opponent were so close (Donald, Ruiz x2, Chagaev) that his wins are debatable. That is why I think Holy has serious chance for an upset.

[FROST]

Valuev has size, but he does not have enough skills/speed to use it effectively. Ruiz had no problems with Valuev reach advantage, and both his fights with Valuev were very close. Actually, most of Valuev fights with decent opponent were so close (Donald, Ruiz x2, Chagaev) that his wins are debatable. That is why I think Holy has serious chance for an upset.

I basically agree with your post. But I think that Holyfield, who is indeed very shot, will have a hard time to get past the jab. It's not even certain that Holyfield hasn't faded even more since last time he fought. I predict a boring decision for Valuev, but if Holyfield wins some rounds and goes the distance he should be considered the winner of the event.

[boxexpert]

i am certain that holyfield will win on points. he will unpack his tactical and physical skills one more time and show why he is the only one who is four time hevyweight champion

[FROST]

Holyfield has probably lost more heavyweight title fights than he has won. You will be able to add another L, after Saturday.

Checked it, Holyfield is currently 10-6-2 in HW title fights. Should really be 11-7 (the draw against Lewis should've been a loss, the draw against Ruiz a win).

[sean]

valuev will keep him on the end of the jab and holyfield will be content to stay there, not able to get off with anything significant on the inside.

[Odo]

valuev will keep him on the end of the jab and holyfield will be content to stay there, not able to get off with anything significant on the inside.

I see the same picture in front of my eyes.

Valuev *' s jab will be the decisve factor in this upcomming match.

The old geezer Hollyfield is too shot to stand a chance against Valuev.

He cant outbox the giant nor can he knock him out.

Anyway! I pity the spectators who have paid a decent sum of money to watch their fight live.
On top of that all the undercard fights are quite poor ,too.
One of the worst big fight cards in Germany for a very long time.

[NBT]

One of the worst big fight cards in Germany for a very long time.
Zürich is in Switzerland. :lol:

[JIm Broughton]

It all depends on what Holyfield has left in the tank. If he can catch lightning in a bottle one last time then he certainly has a chance. If he can't then it looks like a long (or short) night for Evander. My guess is that the giant will prevail. I can't see Holy getting any better since his last outing. His best chance in this fight is to stick and move and box the big man silly but at his age how long can he do that? Maybe for a few rounds but that's it. If Valuev has improved and gotten smarter as a fighter then he knows that he has to make the old man move on those old legs to tire him out. If he fights timidly he builds a bridge for Evander to cross. Personally I hope Evander loses for his own good. If he somehow manages to win then what? He can't possibly beat any of the young lions and if he tries to take one of them on he will certainly get hurt, possibly seriuously hurt. The whole thing is just sad if you ask me. Evander's in it for the money, nothing more. He's broke and has child support and debt up to his earlobes. Why do so many athletes end up this way? Why can't they use thier brains and manage thier money better?

[Stickandmove]

Where can we see this fight?

[znaak]

ARD shows it live here [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[avk47]

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It's not going to happen.

[Odo]

Zürich is in Switzerland. :lol:

So what?? Isnt Switzerland a part of Bavaria?? And isnt Bavaria a part of Deutsche Reich Germany??:D

[NBT]

Well, todays Germany, Switzerland, Austria once formed the first German Empire but that was centuries ago. The Swiss went astray after the 30 years war I believe. Now their independence is of utmost importance to them, you know being "neutral" and all. :yep

[Artani]

Valuev must give rematch to Holy first.
Why Holy not protesting, somethink is not good here. Maybe he sign any agrements to lose this fight.