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BoxingGuru
08-10-2007, 10:53 PM
LMAO. The Holyfield/Ibragimov fight is being shown on ESPN Classic. Just goes to show how big of a farce it is that someone can fight a bunch of nobodies and then get a title shot he doesn't deserve for about the 5th time in his career.


According to a recent report by writer Dan Rafael, Sultan Ibragimov's defense of the WBO heavyweight title against former four-time champ Evander Holyfield is very likely to be televised live on ESPN Classic.
The event, scheduled for Oct. 13 in Moscow, Russia, would also air on the internet by way of ESPN360
AJAX
08-10-2007, 10:57 PM
it's actually a good thing so Sultan can get more exposure especially if he looks good in that fight.
geppy
08-10-2007, 11:03 PM
Who are we to call Jeremy Bates, Vinny Madalone, and the legendary Lou Savarese nobodies?
Suge Green
08-10-2007, 11:08 PM
Who are we to call Jeremy Bates, Vinny Madalone, and the legendary Lou Savarese nobodies?

How convenient to leave Fres Oquendo off of the list...he had a good record, and has fought some good comp.

Focusing on the names mentioned drives your point home a little better though. :good
geppy
08-10-2007, 11:46 PM
How convenient to leave Fres Oquendo off of the list...he had a good record, and has fought some good comp.

Focusing on the names mentioned drives your point home a little better though. :good

Oqueerdo is the only the legit fighter HGHfield fought, indeed. Fres is lame, and shouldnt fight at all. He fights scared, runs, and holds.
Butch Coolidge
08-10-2007, 11:59 PM
Back in the day we could watch fights on ABC, NBC, CBS not this PPV shit. ESPN CLassics is pretty good for the regular joes to tune into a heavyweight fight. If it's a good fight it could do a great job of bringing boxing back to the public's attention.
Heavyrighthand
08-11-2007, 12:15 AM
Back in the day we could watch fights on ABC, NBC, CBS not this PPV shit. ESPN CLassics is pretty good for the regular joes to tune into a heavyweight fight. If it's a good fight it could do a great job of bringing boxing back to the public's attention.

I remember those days, well. :good

Ali used to defend his title on good ol fashioned, FREE network TV that you got your reception for with a set of rabbit ears.
BoxingGuru
08-11-2007, 12:31 AM
How convenient to leave Fres Oquendo off of the list...he had a good record, and has fought some good comp.

Focusing on the names mentioned drives your point home a little better though. :good

You call someone that got beat by RUIZ worthy of mentioning on that list? He even got TKO'd by Ruiz. That is nothing to be proud of.
sues2nd
08-11-2007, 12:40 AM
When Evander wins......THAT will be classic.
tays001
08-11-2007, 12:48 AM
You call someone that got beat by RUIZ worthy of mentioning on that list? He even got TKO'd by Ruiz. That is nothing to be proud of.

dam that right omendo sucks:deal :rofl :rofl :rofl
IntentionalButt
08-11-2007, 12:49 AM
A bit presumptuous. :think
jopez707
08-11-2007, 12:51 AM
dam that right omendo sucks:deal :rofl :rofl :rofl

He sucked so he should have changed his name to Omendo...:lol: :rofl :yep .
IntentionalButt
08-11-2007, 12:56 AM
He sucked so he should have changed his name to Omendo...:lol: :rofl :yep .

this some kind of spanish thing?
brooklyn1550
08-11-2007, 12:56 AM
Stop fucking whining....at least it's on TV for free and one step closer to the days of CBS and ABC. Evander deserves this shot more than the Barrett's and Okhello's of the world who got shots in the last year or so.
jopez707
08-11-2007, 01:03 AM
this some kind of spanish thing?

Nah..he mispelled Oquendo's name...Omendo just sounds hella funny to me...lol.
Willy Bonka
08-11-2007, 04:31 AM
Evander is likely going to be the next WBO Champ, ...and it would be interesting to see Him in a *Unification Bout after that( maybe against WBC Champ; Oleg Maskaev or Sam Peter )...
CASH_718
08-11-2007, 04:38 AM
Oqueerdo is the only the legit fighter HGHfield fought, indeed. Fres is lame, and shouldnt fight at all. He fights scared, runs, and holds.Who'd Ibragimov beat to get his shot??? Lance Whitaker?? And a draw with Ray Austin?:patsch Fuck outta here with that shit.
Grabonator
08-11-2007, 05:34 AM
By happy guys so you dont have to pay for this! I thought it would be pay per few. But you americans should be happy that you dont have to buy it.
diamondDave
08-11-2007, 06:56 AM
This is actually really good news! This means that the fight is going to get mainstream American media coverage and we wont have to watch it on a premium channel.
Mendoza
08-11-2007, 07:00 AM
Stop fucking whining....at least it's on TV for free and one step closer to the days of CBS and ABC. Evander deserves this shot more than the Barrett's and Okhello's of the world who got shots in the last year or so.

Well said. Holyfiled is better than the Okhello's and Austin's of boxing. I think Ibragimov wrecks the old warrior. If its on EPSN, I will watch it. If it were on PPV for $24.95, no thanks.

Speaking of Ibragimov, he might not be the best of the champions, but he is the most exciting of the champions.
Sonny's jab
08-11-2007, 08:00 AM
Can someone explain to me what Ibragimov, Briggs or Liaykovich did to get their shots at the WBO heavyweight title ?

I hears lots of BITCHING about "Holyfield's done nothing to deserve this shot" but what exactly did those three "champs" do before winning this title ?

..... and Lamon Brewster.
What exactly were his credentials when he fought Wlad the first time for this title ?

:huh
Motor City Sam
08-11-2007, 08:57 AM
I agree with El Rey and Brooklyn. This fight being on ESPN Classic would be a good thing. Anytime a significant fight is available to a wider audience, it should be a boost for the sport. Now it's up to Holy and Sultan to put on a good show.
Sweden
08-11-2007, 09:13 AM
Well, if you look at the available ooponents, Holyfield is not that bad of a choice. I think he will be pretty competative but Ibragimov will probably win a UD with something like 8-4, 9-3.
OBCboxer
08-11-2007, 12:32 PM
I wish we can see more fights on the major networks.
Suge Green
08-11-2007, 07:36 PM
You call someone that got beat by RUIZ worthy of mentioning on that list? He even got TKO'd by Ruiz. That is nothing to be proud of.

Worth mentioning on the list...??? Of course, afterall Oquendo is the only Holy opponent left off the list...and the original poster of the comments already conceeded that Fres is the legit fighter of the bunch. I don't care for the guy, just calling for a balanced perspective. I prefer Savarese to Oquendo actually.
El Bombasto
08-11-2007, 07:54 PM
A heavyweight title fight that's not on PPV, sounds good to me.
Butch Coolidge
08-11-2007, 08:43 PM
A heavyweight title fight that's not on PPV, sounds good to me.

It's about time.
IntentionalButt
08-11-2007, 09:56 PM
So will it still be Tessitore and Ephialtes broadcasting?
Imperial1
08-11-2007, 10:04 PM
This is good news and applaud the powers that be for doing this ..
Willy Bonka
08-21-2007, 03:11 AM
This is good news and applaud the powers that be for doing this ..

Let's ALL hope it is a "sealed deal" to be on ESPN Classic...
:deal
Mrboogie23
08-21-2007, 03:14 AM
I'm cool with it being on espn classic. It'll give them exposure. the more exposure boxing gets the better.
He Hate Me
08-21-2007, 03:46 AM
it would be even more of a sham if we had to pay for it so stop crying.
joe the great
08-21-2007, 06:34 AM
will it be a classic?
2ironmt
08-21-2007, 09:37 AM
You call someone that got beat by RUIZ worthy of mentioning on that list? He even got TKO'd by Ruiz. That is nothing to be proud of. whatever. anyone who follows boxing knows oquendo's a solid hw- beat byrd was beating tua before getting caught -- the ruiz fight was a joke and stopped prematurely. the only difference between sultan's and holyfields' comp is that sultan beat one more bum who happened to have a belt b/c realistically sultan's recent comp is not much better.
paulfv
08-21-2007, 09:59 AM
It's smart to put it on Classic. That way, once Evander wins his history-making 5th belt at HW, they don't have to re-show it on Classic - it's already there.

I like it, and I'm glad it's not PPV.
Brickhaus
08-21-2007, 10:36 AM
The fight was scheduled late. None of the big networks were available, and ESPN's slate was already full with college football games. ESPN is paying a lot more money for this fight than they normally pay, and they're just putting it on the network that has availability. Sure, they could have made this a PPV and probably have made more money doing it that way, but the fighters want the exposure, so I applaud them taking the fight to a basic cable network over making more money for only diehard fans to watch.
Brickhaus
08-21-2007, 10:45 AM
whatever. anyone who follows boxing knows oquendo's a solid hw- beat byrd was beating tua before getting caught -- the ruiz fight was a joke and stopped prematurely. the only difference between sultan's and holyfields' comp is that sultan beat one more bum who happened to have a belt b/c realistically sultan's recent comp is not much better.

True that. Seriously, is Briggs any better than Savarese? Probably not by much. Javier Mora is around the same level as Maddalone, maybe worse. Ray Austin and Goofi Whitaker are a step down from Oquendo. Ibragamov has had by far the easiest path of any heavyweight to the title in recent memory. This is a guy who drew with (and was knocked down by) Ray Austin and had serious problems with Friday Ahunanya. At the moment, I have to rate him top 10 simply because he's on a winning streak over decent comp, but I don't rate him any higher H2H than guys like Gomez, Skelton, Bidenko and Williamson. He has the agility to move around plodders like Briggs and Whitaker, but I think Holyfield will give him trouble, which is just sad because Holyfield isn't anywhere near the top tier of HWs right now.

I'll pick Sultan to win close, but he gets beaten badly by the first guy he fights who has a pulse.
buddynabuick
08-21-2007, 10:58 AM
By happy guys so you dont have to pay for this! I thought it would be pay per few. But you americans should be happy that you dont have to buy it.


I would be happy but my cable provider dropped espn classic:tired
nezy37
08-21-2007, 11:38 AM
I don't know what you are bitching about this is great news that the fight is being shown on ESPN Clasic. If this is actually true
nezy37
08-21-2007, 11:42 AM
Money ain't a concern to me and I prefer when fights are on PPV, it adds to the atmosphere and makes the fight seem more important.

OK
papaspank
08-21-2007, 02:00 PM
Fight is going to be on PPV! I emailed Main Events this morning. Their reply was, PPV!
pipe wrenched
08-21-2007, 02:30 PM
LMAO. The Holyfield/Ibragimov fight is being shown on ESPN Classic. Just goes to show how big of a farce it is that someone can fight a bunch of nobodies and then get a title shot he doesn't deserve for about the 5th time in his career.


According to a recent report by writer Dan Rafael, Sultan Ibragimov's defense of the WBO heavyweight title against former four-time champ Evander Holyfield is very likely to be televised live on ESPN Classic.
The event, scheduled for Oct. 13 in Moscow, Russia, would also air on the internet by way of ESPN360

Sweet!! I'll be glad to watch in NOT on PPV.:good
Motor City Sam
08-21-2007, 02:53 PM
Money ain't a concern to me and I prefer when fights are on PPV, it adds to the atmosphere and makes the fight seem more important.

I am not sure I get your meaning, Rob. Are you saying that you enjoy a fight more just because you have to pay extra for it? :huh
Motor City Sam
08-21-2007, 02:55 PM
Fight is going to be on PPV! I emailed Main Events this morning. Their reply was, PPV!

Guess I won't be seeing it then. No way do I pay PPV prices to see this fight. Too bad; I think it would have been good for it to be on ESPN Classic.