Povetkin vs. Valuev

[KobeIsGod]

I rank Povetkin #3 H2H behind only the bros.

I think Povetkin is too skilled, quick, and busy inside for Valuev who lacks the power to really keep Sasha off him. I think his chin is solid enough to take Valuev's right hand all night.

Valuev is very slow giving Povetkin a great chance to close distance quickly. Valuev has a solid jab which will bother Povetkin, mainly because he lacks head movement, but it's still slow and not really heavy. Povetkin guts it out and wins on pts. dominating late.

Who do you think would win?

[avk47]

I expect a similar fight to the one with Chagaev. Povetkin will be too fast.

[Odo]

I rank Povetkin #3 H2H behind only the bros.

I think Povetkin is too skilled, quick, and busy inside for Valuev who lacks the power to really keep Sasha off him. I think his chin is solid enough to take Valuev's right hand all night.

Valuev is very slow giving Povetkin a great chance to close distance quickly. Valuev has a solid jab which will bother Povetkin, mainly because he lacks head movement, but it's still slow and not really heavy. Povetkin guts it out and wins on pts. dominating late.

Who do you think would win?

Valuev doesnt have the necessary firepower to stop Povetkin-nor does he have the skills to outbox Povetkin.
I guess it is a sure bet to say that Povetkin would probably win their encounter if they ever met in the ring.
Chagaev will be a more dangerous threat to Povetkin IMO.
Props to Valuev that he has made it to the top.I never thought that he would really capture one of the abc org's belt.

[Farmboxer]

I am afraid that Vlad will hurt Povetkin's career. Povetkin is not ready for Vlad yet and will lose by TKO or KO. Hate to see this fight. After he loses to Vlad, I do not know if can would beat Valouev, depends on how much a bad loss to Vlad will affect him. I am afraid that Povetkin will never be the same after such a fight.

[Bummy Davis]

i am afraid that vlad will hurt povetkin's career. Povetkin is not ready for vlad yet and will lose by tko or ko. Hate to see this fight. After he loses to vlad, i do not know if can would beat valouev, depends on how much a bad loss to vlad will affect him. I am afraid that povetkin will never be the same after such a fight.


i agree they are rushing him, a.p. Can get in close and outwork vlad and get him tired but he will have to pay for his aggression, if he can take what vlad gives he may have a shot but in the fight vs chamber he took too many right hands but adjusted, still a right hand from vlad is like two hands from chambers and throw in a leg

[KobeIsGod]

I rank Povetkin #3 H2H behind only the bros.

I think Povetkin is too skilled, quick, and busy inside for Valuev who lacks the power to really keep Sasha off him. I think his chin is solid enough to take Valuev's right hand all night.

Valuev is very slow giving Povetkin a great chance to close distance quickly. Valuev has a solid jab which will bother Povetkin, mainly because he lacks head movement, but it's still slow and not really heavy. Povetkin guts it out and wins on pts. dominating late.

Who do you think would win?

Good lord! Can I change my prediction to Povetkin ko1? :yep

[Kampioni]

Valuev, by Robbery via UD 12

[Artani]

Valuev, by Robbery via UD 12

Good saying mate ....

[robert ungurean]

I am afraid that Vlad will hurt Povetkin's career. Povetkin is not ready for Vlad yet and will lose by TKO or KO. Hate to see this fight. After he loses to Vlad, I do not know if can would beat Valouev, depends on how much a bad loss to Vlad will affect him. I am afraid that Povetkin will never be the same after such a fight.
I agree

[cuchulain]

With honest judges, Povetkin.

[dwilson]

I would pick Valuel to beat Pov. Pov offers nothing to say he can beat the likes of Valuev or the Klits.

[Fat Tony]

Valuev, by Robbery via UD 12

Two Sauerland boxers, jester.

[Odo]

Two Sauerland boxers, jester.


:lol::lol::lol: Good point,fat toney!!!

[emanuel_augustus]

I rank Povetkin #3 H2H behind only the bros.

I think Povetkin is too skilled, quick, and busy inside for Valuev who lacks the power to really keep Sasha off him. I think his chin is solid enough to take Valuev's right hand all night.

Valuev is very slow giving Povetkin a great chance to close distance quickly. Valuev has a solid jab which will bother Povetkin, mainly because he lacks head movement, but it's still slow and not really heavy. Povetkin guts it out and wins on pts. dominating late.

Who do you think would win?

Agree with the exception that I don't think even Valuev's jab would trouble Povetkin all that much because he would be inside of it for most of the fight.

Povetkin does close distance well and has the physical strength and skill to get inside on Valuev and do damage. He also has the ability to throw punches from varying angles along with good power in both hands--a bit like Chagaev but with a higher level of aggression.

I see this being a pretty wide decision for Povetkin, especially considering that Valuev has looked unimpressive as of late.

[TommyV]

Povetkin would pound Valuev's body all night long. Easy decision win, unless he gets screwed over. In any case, it will be impossible for the judges to score for Valuev and come out with even an inch of credibility.

I like Povetkin, he works hard, high volume output, pressures intelligently and constantly, puts combinations together well with both hands and can work the body a bit.

I'd like to see how he does against somebody like Juan Carlos Gomez though. Gomez is a skilled southpaw with a reach advantage, I think he could perhaps box from range and pick holes in Povetkin's defence, while being able to take Povetkin's solid power.

[emanuel_augustus]

Povetkin would pound Valuev's body all night long. Easy decision win, unless he gets screwed over. In any case, it will be impossible for the judges to score for Valuev and come out with even an inch of credibility.

I like Povetkin, he works hard, high volume output, pressures intelligently and constantly, puts combinations together well with both hands and can work the body a bit.

I'd like to see how he does against somebody like Juan Carlos Gomez though. Gomez is a skilled southpaw with a reach advantage, I think he could perhaps box from range and pick holes in Povetkin's defence, while being able to take Povetkin's solid power.

Gomez is a good style matchup for Povetkin. He moves laterally better than either Byrd or Chambers, both more stationary counterpunchers, but Povetkin's forward attack I think would get to Gomez enough to make it really tough for him.

The interesting thing about this matchup would be to see how well Povetkin can cutoff the ring against a defensive minded boxer. My sense is that he could, especially this older, less mobile version of Gomez that we have today.

[ralphc]

i agree they are rushing him, a.p. Can get in close and outwork vlad and get him tired but he will have to pay for his aggression, if he can take what vlad gives he may have a shot but in the fight vs chamber he took too many right hands but adjusted, still a right hand from vlad is like two hands from chambers and throw in a leg


Povetkin is as good as he is ever going to be. He may not be too experienced at pro boxing, but he has had lots of other experience so he can handle to pressure of a championship event. His only problem is the flaws in his style. Sadly, I think his trainer understands style as well as most of the people posting in this forum. Although in theory it would appear that Wladimir Klitschko has a huge style advantage, in practise it may not work out that way. Klitschko is very defensive minded and unlike his brother does not get into slugging matches. He is too busy running! Povetkin comes to fight and Klitschko is not accustomed to opponents who give him a hard time. Povetkin will take a few hits, but I doubt he will take the big hits. There is good reason to believe that Klitschko will once agaqin collapse under pressure.

[alex paterson]

valuev is hopeless povetkin will be to fast.

But if valuev throws his jab povetkin has poor head movement but will win to fast

[Rick G]

Valuev will dominate the fight and will score with his jab effectively. Povetkin will bring some body punches but they won't hurt Valuev at all.

So if you rate effectiveness (and add the champ bonus, the Don King extra bonus, the marketability bonus, and the special home bonus) Valuev will win close.

Pls keep in mind that Valuev has lots of experience esp. vs. smaller & faster opponents.

[avk47]

Povetkin is as good as he is ever going to be. He may not be too experienced at pro boxing, but he has had lots of other experience so he can handle to pressure of a championship event. His only problem is the flaws in his style. Sadly, I think his trainer understands style as well as most of the people posting in this forum. Although in theory it would appear that Wladimir Klitschko has a huge style advantage, in practise it may not work out that way. Klitschko is very defensive minded and unlike his brother does not get into slugging matches. He is too busy running! Povetkin comes to fight and Klitschko is not accustomed to opponents who give him a hard time. Povetkin will take a few hits, but I doubt he will take the big hits. There is good reason to believe that Klitschko will once agaqin collapse under pressure.

So basically, you have a greater understanding of boxing than Valeri Belov, a vastly experienced trainer of the top level that has produced numerous champions at Russian European, World and Olympic level, and is one of the top trainers of the Soviet Union and now Russia? Apart from Povetkin, Belov has trained, at one stage, Kostya Tszyu, Andrei Mishin, ROman Romanchuk, etc. etc. Belov was sent out to train the Guatamala national team, and within two years of his work, they won the boxing tournament of the Central American games. Did you know that teams from other countries travel to have training camps at Belov's Vityaz' gym in Chekhov?

[FROST]

Povetkin is overrated big time. I saw a couple of his fights, there's nothing special about him. Who did he beat? A shot Byrd and ancient Larry Donald? C'mon.. The only win I give him credit for is against Eddie Chambers, and even in that fight he didn't look good. Chambers was outboxing him for the first half of the fight, Povetkin was wide open and took a lot of punches. But then Chambers just stopped throwing punches and let Povetkin take control of the fight - Chambers gave that fight away. I had Povetkin winning by one round only. Povetkin isn't that talented or skilled, he's not very big or strong either.. well, he's working in the ring, I give him that. And don't start calling me biased about dissing russian or other eastern euro fighters - I respect and esteem a lot of eastern euro fighters in different weight classes, but not Povetkin, and certainly not Valuev.

PS I think Povetkin would still beat Valuev.

[avk47]

Povetkin is overrated big time. I saw a couple of his fights, there's nothing special about him. Who did he beat? A shot Byrd and ancient Larry Donald? C'mon.. The only win I give him credit for is against Eddie Chambers, and even in that fight he didn't look good. Chambers was outboxing him for the first half of the fight, Povetkin was wide open and took a lot of punches. But then Chambers just stopped throwing punches and let Povetkin take control of the fight - Chambers gave that fight away. I had Povetkin winning by one round only. Povetkin isn't that talented or skilled, he's not very big or strong either.. well, he's working in the ring, I give him that. And don't start calling me biased about dissing russian or other eastern euro fighters - I respect and esteem a lot of eastern euro fighters in different weight classes, but not Povetkin, and certainly not Valuev.

PS I think Povetkin would still beat Valuev.

I agree with you on Valuev's skills and talent, but come on, however well he does in the pro ranks Povetkin was a superstar amateur, who pretty much cleaned out the superheavyweight division at European, World and Olympic level and barely ever lost, and when he was around, there were some very good boxers at that weight. A guy with little skills or talent would never have been able to do that. And remember, he won over Donald and Bird in his 12th and 13th professional fight. Who did you expect him to be fighting at that stage?

[Farmboxer]

However, if someone were to get the lead out of Valouev's arse.............

[Grecorussian]

Povetkin on points is my opinion