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smellmyfinger
12-18-2008, 03:55 AM
Hey pommy lads, just wondering how Nigel Benn is regarded by u guy's?

We have some footage being played on fox over here and it seems like he was pretty popular in the UK in his day.

Good power, and exciting to watch from what ive seen.

sean
12-18-2008, 04:04 AM
he is a bible basher now, but he was a boxing icon and still is.
have gloves will destroy was his early mantra, box puncher more as he got older and moved up.

he could draw a crowd anywhere in the uk .

his rivalry with eubank pushed up his status and recognition factor as well.

he had the huge advantage of having large parts of his career on free tv and was watched by millions and millions in the uk.

eubank v benn got 18,000,000 live tv audience.

or every man in the uk aged between 16 and 65 at the time to put it in perspective how popular boxing was and benn was.

Govanmauler
12-18-2008, 05:04 AM
He was combat , simple as that !

stonerose
12-18-2008, 05:11 AM
Favourite fighter of all time. He had it all . Went through many phases in his career , starting with the Dark Destroyer days ,blasting people out in double quick time, getting beat by Watson, going to America for redemption and battering Dewitt and Barkley . Coming back home with the belt, losing to his nemesis Eubank, contemplating retirement before finding a new ,more boxing type style at SMW ,winning the title again on foreign soil. Fighting one of the most vicios MW's ever in Gerald Mclellan in a fight most thought he couldn't win and putting in what i think is THE finest and bravest performance by a British boxer in a legendary fight that would be shown far more often of it wasn't for what happened to Mclellan . Nigel was never the same after that, carried on for too long, lost to people he had no business losing to, finally retired and found life hard after boxing. Failed suicide attempt and alleged drug abuse before finding god and moving abroad where he is a preacher helping the poor.
This doesn't even begin to do him justice by the way.

Buggo
12-18-2008, 08:39 AM
Nigel Benn was a true boxing warrior, involved in many entertaining high calibre fights. He was the UK fans favourite in a time when Britain was blessed with a few world class middleweights/super middleweights. He would go to prove himself in the US, and will never be accused of ducking anyone. It will be a long long time before Britain will have rivalry that will match Benn/Eubank. When he fought he was front page & back page news, and even your granny will ask how he got on. Nigel Benn will always be my favourite fighter of all time.

sitiyzal
12-18-2008, 10:22 AM
Was really popular but always underrated. Shame he's turned into an irritating religious nut.

FLINT ISLAND
12-18-2008, 10:32 AM
Benn learnt to box in the army

He was vunerable too though................most dangerous when he was hurt

bags of heart and aggression................came to punch your head off

not a sissy like Wlad

The_Hitman92
12-18-2008, 10:34 AM
Benn was an underrated fighter who I loved watching fight, his rivarly with Eubank was quality.

trotter
12-18-2008, 10:42 AM
Hey pommy lads, just wondering how Nigel Benn is regarded by u guy's?

We have some footage being played on fox over here and it seems like he was pretty popular in the UK in his day.

Good power, and exciting to watch from what ive seen.

You'll find a hell of a lot of Brits who have him down as their favourite fighter ever

If you've not seen his fights you are in for a treat

I can't do him justice in words either, it's a long story, suffice to say he's a hero amongst British boxing fans

FLINT ISLAND
12-18-2008, 11:10 AM
Benn came to DJ is Escape Nightclub Swansea a few years ago...........but I didnt go there that night

However I did go to Barons nightclub Swansea and met Frank Bruno the night he was DJing there

A few days later he was arrested under the mental health act...........a few here on ESB have accused me of having a bad mental effect on Bruno

What did I do?:conf

stonerose
12-18-2008, 11:15 AM
Was really popular but always underrated. Shame he's turned into an irritating religious nut.



how is he irritating ? he hardly ever speaks to the press . he's just getting on with life after very nearly taking it .

FLINT ISLAND
12-18-2008, 11:30 AM
how is he irritating ? he hardly ever speaks to the press . he's just getting on with life after very nearly taking it .


Ignore SITIZYAL...........he is a troll

Among his trolling he claimied

Certain TV's were rubbish

and

Glamour Boy Enzo Maccarnelli was ugly

and

now he is rubbishing Nigel Benn too

and

he has rubbished me in the past too

he is a troll

sitiyzal
12-18-2008, 11:39 AM
how is he irritating ? he hardly ever speaks to the press . he's just getting on with life after very nearly taking it .

Yeah, there's an interview on youtube which is supposedly his last. His preaching in his last few interviews was begining to grate.

sitiyzal
12-18-2008, 11:41 AM
Ignore SITIZYAL...........he is a troll

Among his trolling he claimied

Certain TV's were rubbish

and

Glamour Boy Enzo Maccarnelli was ugly

and

now he is rubbishing Nigel Benn too

and

he has rubbished me in the past too

he is a troll

:lol:...if I'm a troll wtf are you?

& stop with the 'glamour boy' talk about ugly fucker Enzo :lol:. He may be seen as a pretty boy around the welsh valleys but outside of Wales he's fugly.

Ischbaad
12-18-2008, 11:43 AM
A complete and utter warrior. While I'm an admirer of boxing smarts and skill, I'll always have respect for fighters like Benn, Barkley, Gatti, Collins etc. The courage they displayed in many of their fights was awe-inspiring.

As for Benn being a preacher, who gives a fuck? It's much better than being an alcoholic, a drug-abuser and a womaniser like he used to be.

lurcher
12-18-2008, 11:56 AM
Key moments for me,smashing ian chantler(i think)in 16 seconds with one shot then getting boxed to bits off micheal watson. This did not deter benn, far from it. He went to america & developed his jab & upper body movement. Even with these tools he still loved to pressure his opponent & load up on every shot,outgunning 'the blade' barkley & doug dewitt in their homeland. All you really need too know about our little tyson can be seen in the mclellan fight where neither man was (or ever could be)the same.

El Cepillo
12-18-2008, 12:20 PM
Benn was a warrior. A legend.

ApatheticLeader
12-18-2008, 12:56 PM
Overrated by fans, underrated by others.

Brummy1976
12-18-2008, 01:27 PM
he is a bible basher now, but he was a boxing icon and still is.
have gloves will destroy was his early mantra, box puncher more as he got older and moved up.

he could draw a crowd anywhere in the uk .

his rivalry with eubank pushed up his status and recognition factor as well.

he had the huge advantage of having large parts of his career on free tv and was watched by millions and millions in the uk.

eubank v benn got 18,000,000 live tv audience.

or every man in the uk aged between 16 and 65 at the time to put it in perspective how popular boxing was and benn was.:deal

mattress
12-18-2008, 04:42 PM
Great fighter to watch. Absolute menace in the ring. Not the best but the most frightening man I've seen at 168.

FLINT ISLAND
12-18-2008, 04:47 PM
Great fighter to watch. Absolute menace in the ring. Not the best but the most frightening man I've seen at 168.

I'd agree with that as a accurate judgement :deal

mattress
12-18-2008, 05:04 PM
I'd agree with that as a accurate judgement :deal

Only a handful of boxers actually scared the fuck out of me and Benn was one. Hell of a nice guy though, out of the ring.

I have to get a 'The Best of Nigel Benn' DVD sometime. Maybe I'll ask the missus to get me one for Christmas? Any recommendations?

ShadowWorks
12-18-2008, 06:50 PM
Nigel had the heart of a lion, very brave, tough as nails, gritty and always full on, he came into boxing to late from the Army, if he had 10 more years of training he would have had more tools and could have been unstoppable in his weight class, he could take a licking and keep on ticking.

FLINT ISLAND
12-19-2008, 06:34 AM
:lol:...if I'm a troll wtf are you?

& stop with the 'glamour boy' talk about ugly fucker Enzo :lol:. He may be seen as a pretty boy around the welsh valleys but outside of Wales he's fugly.


:-(

read this link to see how Enzo says he is better looking than ladies man vinnie jones

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mckay_89
12-19-2008, 06:41 AM
Benn was one of the most exciting fighters i've ever had the pleasure to watch, he would always seem in control of a fight, throwing bombs at his opponent before getting caught himself and retreating to the ropes where he would look utterly helpless for about 10 seconds and then start throwing bombs again!

brown bomber
12-19-2008, 06:46 AM
Benn mk1 was a crude, mega puncher with dynamite in his fists and no defence whatsoever.

The Benn up at Super Middle was an under-rated master counter puncher who's improvement in form was slightly below that of Hopkins'. He was massively under-rated in this guise and his fluid movement, tenacity and punch picking was exceptional.

The Benn that beat Mclellon would have beaten Calzaghe or Jones. IMHO.

stonerose
12-19-2008, 06:48 AM
Only a handful of boxers actually scared the fuck out of me and Benn was one. Hell of a nice guy though, out of the ring.

I have to get a 'The Best of Nigel Benn' DVD sometime. Maybe I'll ask the missus to get me one for Christmas? Any recommendations?


Check this vid out mate, awesome stuff..........


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turn the sound on if possible.

FLINT ISLAND
12-19-2008, 06:50 AM
Benn mk1 was a crude, mega puncher with dynamite in his fists and no defence whatsoever.

The Benn up at Super Middle was an under-rated master counter puncher who's improvement in form was slightly below that of Hopkins'. He was massively under-rated in this guise and his fluid movement, tenacity and punch picking was exceptional.

The Benn that beat Mclellon would have beaten Calzaghe or Jones. IMHO.

Maybe Calzaghe......cos them right hands would have found him all night like he was finding McCllenan

Not Roy Jones..........because he was way superior defensively to McCllenan who had zero defence.

Jones would have bounced around the ring and outsped Benn and covered up superbly on the ropes like he always did during a Benn assault

brown bomber
12-19-2008, 06:51 AM
Maybe Calzaghe......cos them right hands would have found him all night like he was finding McCllenan

Not Roy Jones..........because he was way superior defensively to McCllenan who had zero defence.

Jones would have bounced around the ring and outsped Benn and covered up superbly on the ropes like he always did during a Benn assault I don't think so... Benn was a ATG for one night only... Like Douglas-Tyson.

Beeston Brawler
12-19-2008, 06:54 AM
I think if Benn landed on Jones it would be lights out for Roy.

Benn would be made to look stupid for most of the fight, but would only need one.

Roy hardly had a glass jaw, but wasn't iron-chinned.

FLINT ISLAND
12-19-2008, 06:58 AM
I think if Benn landed on Jones it would be lights out for Roy.

Benn would be made to look stupid for most of the fight, but would only need one.

Roy hardly had a glass jaw, but wasn't iron-chinned.

disagree again

One shot like Johnson nailed him with............but that was 2004 Roy Jones

We are talking about 1995 Roy Jones here............I think his chin was better then

To say he would be out of it first clean punch Benn lands is a hell of a big assumtpion

I dont think so

Beeston Brawler
12-19-2008, 07:00 AM
A lot of people with better chins than Jones were knocked out by Nigel Benn - McClellan for starters.

Eubank had a far better beard than Jones, and although he took the shots, he was hurt/shook up a number of times.

Beeston Brawler
12-19-2008, 07:02 AM
Not necessarily one punch, but an accumulation of blows that weren't flush may have been finished off with a big right.

stonerose
12-19-2008, 07:03 AM
I don't think so... Benn was a ATG for one night only... Like Douglas-Tyson.


No way can you compare Douglas and Benn. Benn had proved himself way before that fight and been a champion for years. Douglas was thought of as a journeyman.

FLINT ISLAND
12-19-2008, 07:04 AM
A lot of people with better chins than Jones were knocked out by Nigel Benn - McClellan for starters.

Eubank had a far better beard than Jones, and although he took the shots, he was hurt/shook up a number of times.

Maybe so.........but McClellan was not knocked out by the first punch Benn landed

He took 10 rounds of bombs before he took a voluntery knee

Jones could not afford to hang his chin out like that

But even if he was hit flush with some Benn bombs several times.............he might take the shots

brown bomber
12-19-2008, 07:05 AM
disagree again

One shot like Johnson nailed him with............but that was 2004 Roy Jones

We are talking about 1995 Roy Jones here............I think his chin was better then

To say he would be out of it first clean punch Benn lands is a hell of a big assumtpion

I dont think so Jones was also rocked by Jorge Vaca, troubled by Montell Griffin, floored by Lou De Valle and of course KO'd by Johnson and Tarver. Benn lands.. Roy goes down...

FLINT ISLAND
12-19-2008, 07:06 AM
No way can you compare Douglas and Benn. Benn had proved himself way before that fight and been a champion for years. Douglas was thought of as a journeyman.


I think it was a great performance by Benn

But McCllenan was techincally very crude and had never learnt how to defend himself.............as if he would never need it

benn would never be able to get them same shots off on Roy Jones with no where near as much success

brown bomber
12-19-2008, 07:07 AM
No way can you compare Douglas and Benn. Benn had proved himself way before that fight and been a champion for years. Douglas was thought of as a journeyman.
I'm not talking about overall... I'm saying that on the night he performed like one of the great middles of the 50's.... The same way on the night Douglas performed like a great heavyweight. Benn is far more consistant and obviously a much better fighter.

widdy
12-19-2008, 08:26 AM
spoke to nigel benn couple of weeks ago at burnley football club,he was there with steve collins,2 top blokes who had loads of time to chat and have photos taken.

me and a mate went to benn eubank 2 at manchester in 93,i think it was,my mate the jammy twat ended up in benns corner as water boy,while i was in the stands with the wifes.still don't forgive him about that

columbo man
12-19-2008, 04:35 PM
the absolute bollocks. the man was an all time great!!!!!!!

LiamE
12-19-2008, 05:13 PM
Benn was always great value.

(Forgetting the Collins shambles)

johnny5
12-19-2008, 05:32 PM
Benn was a British legend. Agressive, big puncher who was very popular and fought in some absolute wars!

Primadonna Kool
12-19-2008, 05:36 PM
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smellmyfinger
12-20-2008, 01:54 AM
A lot of people with better chins than Jones were knocked out by Nigel Benn - McClellan for starters.

Eubank had a far better beard than Jones, and although he took the shots, he was hurt/shook up a number of times.


Yeh but Jones at hios best was never hit. So u cant knock out what u cant hit.

In my eyes, and im only 30, Jones is the best boxer ive ever seen when at his best.

Eubank
12-20-2008, 04:31 AM
Jones would have very little change against the likes of Benn.

mattress
12-20-2008, 10:42 AM
Benn is another one of these fighters who I think would have been huge if born American. Ok, he may have has more defeats on his record but they would have adored him, surely? Fuck me, the general American public went wild over Pavlik (who is nowhere near as exciting) or is his (Pavlik) popularity more to do with his skin tone....or lack of?

faisal
12-20-2008, 01:01 PM
as a fighter he was legendary as a personality at the time came across as punkish, whoever says benn has a chance against jones is clearly nuthugging, jones was our modern day SRR benn doesnt even touch him Jones would decimate him in a 1 sided fight
in comparison to jones benns skills were primitive i cant really see benn coming in range and landing anything that would worry roy jones jr

hagler7
12-20-2008, 02:41 PM
As for Benn being a preacher, who gives a fuck? It's much better than being an alcoholic, a drug-abuser and a womaniser like he used to be.

well said

lurcher
12-20-2008, 03:51 PM
yo faisal one question and one question only cos you got me spitting, why did'nt RJJ fight BENN when he had every opportunity, when BENN was calling him out, when BENN was fighting every one and anyone(same way it took him 10 years to finally fight CALZAGHE),the fact it never happened is simple, jones did'nt fancy the heat that BENN brought

lurcher
12-20-2008, 03:52 PM
right

riggers
12-20-2008, 04:03 PM
Jones was also rocked by Jorge Vaca, troubled by Montell Griffin, floored by Lou De Valle and of course KO'd by Johnson and Tarver. Benn lands.. Roy goes down...

Jones was not rocked by Vaca .

Montells workrate and style troubled him ( in the first fight ) but never his power.

Del Valle floored him and lost every second of every minute of every round apart from that.

Benn was nothing like Buster Douglas, he was a phenomenal fighter, against Barkley ( a former and future world champ ) against Eubank against the G man.

riggers
12-20-2008, 04:11 PM
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Heres a link for Jones Vaca ....... at what point was he rocked ?

bruno's_chin
12-21-2008, 11:23 AM
Benn was absolutely awesome, just sheer aggression, the fights with logan and barkley were mental, really sound bloke out of the ring as well, met him a few times at these sportsmen dinners and benefit party's and he's always willing to talk, get photos, sign auto, the guys a legend!

faisal
12-21-2008, 11:53 AM
yo faisal one question and one question only cos you got me spitting, why did'nt RJJ fight BENN when he had every opportunity, when BENN was calling him out, when BENN was fighting every one and anyone(same way it took him 10 years to finally fight CALZAGHE),the fact it never happened is simple, jones did'nt fancy the heat that BENN brought
theres a video of benn saying that he doesnt mind being second to roy, if any 1 was going to be under any sort of heat it would have been benn, jones would have had a field day with that all out guns blazing style of his and even benn addmitted it, as for calzaghe wtf guy, jones was a LHW when calzaghe won the wbo against eubank since beating eubank till the time he fought lacy he had the credentials of a ''euro bum''

Jambi
12-21-2008, 01:10 PM
Brilliant fighter shit D.J