mayweather vs forrest at 154

[lenin]

who takes it?

[Relentless]

forrest sucks.

[ripcity]

I would pick Mayweather over any one 140-154 today.

[achillesthegreat]

I'd pick Floyd to pot shot Forrest to a UD but Forrest is a QUALITY fighter, his problems are not talent or tools, they are intangiables.

Chin? Smarts? Mental fortitude? Injuries?

His chin let him down v Mayorga and he didn't have the smarts to turn it around, he fought dumb. Same in the rematch where he had an AWFUL corner. He was scared and let a win slip away. It was a close fight but him being scared lost him it. When Mayorga took his shots, he freaked Forrest. After the fight Forrest was tied up about Mayorga being on roids for him to have taken those shots flush.

IF Forrest is smart he can go down as a great fighter. I think he needs to defend his title against Mayorga and get a W off him. Forrest is in another league from Mayorga but Mayorga has impressive intangiables, especially at that time.

[El Bombasto]

Easy UD for Forrest

[brooklyn1550]

Forrest by close decision

[TheGreat]

Tough fight PBF is great and he is P4P #1 but Forrest is a very good fighter himself and is alot bigger than PBF who is small at 147 while Forrest looks like he could easily go up to MW. Forrest on a good night I think could win just because he is so much bigger than PBF.

[achillesthegreat]

Easy UD for Forrest
You're a hog.

Puff, puff, PASS!

[TheGreat]

I'd pick Floyd to pot shot Forrest to a UD but Forrest is a QUALITY fighter, his problems are not talent or tools, they are intangiables.

Chin? Smarts? Mental fortitude? Injuries?

His chin let him down v Mayorga and he didn't have the smarts to turn it around, he fought dumb. Same in the rematch where he had an AWFUL corner. He was scared and let a win slip away. It was a close fight but him being scared lost him it. When Mayorga took his shots, he freaked Forrest. After the fight Forrest was tied up about Mayorga being on roids for him to have taken those shots flush.

IF Forrest is smart he can go down as a great fighter. I think he needs to defend his title against Mayorga and get a W off him. Forrest is in another league from Mayorga but Mayorga has impressive intangiables, especially at that time.

The only problem Forrest has is injuries, he did fight mayo wrong the first time as he underestimated Mayo and got KTFO trying out slug him which led to him being scared in the rematch. Forrest would not underestimate PBF. The fight could go either way IMO but Forrest would whip anybody else at 147 who moves up to challenge him.

[1lehudson]

funny this poll is 50/50 but if Floyd were actaully to fight Forrest there would be outrage. Kinda like about 50% of the yahoos here picked Gatti to beat Floyd then about 60% picked Oscar. Afterwards it was a disgrace, Floyd was fighting handpicked past thier prime fighters.

[TheGreat]

funny this poll is 50/50 but if Floyd were actaully to fight Forrest there would be outrage. Kinda like about 50% of the yahoos here picked Gatti to beat Floyd then about 60% picked Oscar. Afterwards it was a disgrace, Floyd was fighting handpicked past thier prime fighters.

True PBF gets shit from haters no matter who he fights but i think he got shit because the DLH fight was lame as for Gatti every decent fighter crushes him.

[TheGreat]

i am a fan of both fighters and i agree floyd should be p4p # 1. but stylistically forrest has EVERYTHING to beat floyd. speed, ring generalshop, activity rate. forrest ud's mayweather in an upset.

I agree forrest can win but not because of those reasons I think he can get the upset because he might be to big for PBF.

[TheGreat]

wasn't oscar too big for mayweather. baldy?....size isn't everything ESPECIALLY against slippery mayweather. forrest's reach, skills, speed and movement give him the advantage.

Baldo is very limited plus he couldn't crack an egg, DLH's size gave PBF alot of trouble which is why he won but didn't dominate like he usaully does. Forrest is bigger, taller, and stronger than Baldo and DLH. Don't get me wrong Forrest is a very good fighter all Im saying is size at 154 would play a huge role in the fight. let me ask you this if it was the other way around and PBF was alot bigger than Forrest would Forrest have a chance?

[JMotrain]

Forrest would beat Mayweather as long as he is healthy.

[Lex]

I'd give Forrest the benefit of the doubt because of the way he handled Mosley. Forrest has the style to beat shorter, slick boxers with quick hands.

The only significant concern is whether Forrest has his full confidence back.

[rodney]

This fight wont happen.
No money in this fight.
No one will be banging on the door to see Forest.
Forest doesnt impress.
Mayweather is the man.

[Toopretty]

Forrest now cannot beat mayweather. I agree Forrest has the perfect style to beat him for the current fighters but not at this stage in his career. Prime for prime then we are talking. But now..you guys hate Floyd a little too much. I see where your coming from. But baldomir is not a hard targert..lol His head is the biggest bullseye in boxing. That is a MACK truck. I admit you guys know what your talking about with the style but not Forrest now. Floyd would make him be the aggressor and use crazy energy. Floyd would get a split or win a close decision while you guys claim robbery b/c Forrest wins 4-5 rounds just like Castillo in the first fight....Some things in boxing will never change:bart :bart :bart :bart :bart :bart :bart

[achillesthegreat]

funny this poll is 50/50 but if Floyd were actaully to fight Forrest there would be outrage. Kinda like about 50% of the yahoos here picked Gatti to beat Floyd then about 60% picked Oscar. Afterwards it was a disgrace, Floyd was fighting handpicked past thier prime fighters.
Woah there.

Don't go exposing the whole forum like that in just a couple of lines.

[achillesthegreat]

The only problem Forrest has is injuries, he did fight mayo wrong the first time as he underestimated Mayo and got KTFO trying out slug him which led to him being scared in the rematch. Forrest would not underestimate PBF. The fight could go either way IMO but Forrest would whip anybody else at 147 who moves up to challenge him.
You say that is his only problems then admit he didn't fight smart and then fought scared!!!

This is a damn close fight. Forrest is a quality operator.

Floyd is the better fighter but Forrest is naturally bigger. I'd call it 55-45.

[Sister Sledge]

I just watched Forrest whip Baldo and the guy seems to have everything back; speed, jab, confidence. His size would be what would determine the winner, and he is so much bigger than Floyd. Vernon by a close UD.

[TheGreat]

size does not beat mayweather. superior boxing skills beats mayweather.

Not in this case, Forrest is a little past it but he is easily about 2 weight classes bigger than PBF and that gives him a real advantage, Have you seen PBF at 140 , against guys his own size, he beat the crap out of Corley, Brusales, and Gatti and at 147 Mitchell and Judah but with bigger foes he CAN NOT GO TOT TO TOE like he did against guys his own size and with the reach advantage Vernon has PBF would have to fight on the inside with the much bigger stronger guy which is why a good big man will usually beat a good little man but PBF is great so he could beat Forrest IMO but it could go either way.

[TheGreat]

I doubt his size would give him any big advantage... Did it help Oscar who is suppose to hit like a heavyweight? And Forrest doesn't hit as hard as Oscar so the size is a non issue.

Mayweather 116-112.

Watch PBF against guys his own size and and you will see how much size matters if PBF had been the bigger guy it would not have been competitive at all and he would he would have beat the tar out of DLH.

[Toopretty]

Yeah. Size does not mean that much with mayweather he is not a flat footed fighter. The thing is Vernons jab and right hand that follows. I mean floyd never fought anyone with that style and accuracy. Mayweather usually whips taller fighters anyway.

[Lance_Uppercut]

I think Floyd would likely win a close fight. But I certainly wouldn't count Forrest out. He has the size and skill to make it competitive. Forrest would be the one trying to make it a fight, and likely pay for it in the end.

[platnumpapi]

well i know everyone is still cuming off the vipers win over baldo so this is to be expected of most of you.but we talking pretty boy vs the viper.hmm i think it would be a toss up fight.

pbf is skilled but i dont think he will beat the viber on some pot shot shit, maybe the bigger slower fighters he can get away with that but not the viber.

the viper has good speed and power to hurt pbf and he has the jab and understands the way its suppose to be used.the viper has always been hurt so i dont know how good he really is if he has never fought at 100 percent.

i only seen him 2 fights before his 1 fight with shane, but from what i have seen in him i think the fight could go either way.i can see the viper beating pbf as well and vice verca.

so i said all that and cant tell you who i think would win, well its like that sometimes.

[jecxbox]

25 people are on crack

[TheGreat]

Yeah. Size does not mean that much with mayweather he is not a flat footed fighter. The thing is Vernons jab and right hand that follows. I mean floyd never fought anyone with that style and accuracy. Mayweather usually whips taller fighters anyway.

I know Forrest is good but what if PBF had the massive size advantage instead of the other way around would you give this version of Forrest at 36 yrs old a chance?

[TheGreat]

25 people are on crack

P4P PBF is the better fighter but Vernon is a very good fighter with a huge size advantage which can not be ignored IMO.

[Toopretty]

I know Forrest is good but what if PBF had the massive size advantage instead of the other way around would you give this version of Forrest at 36 yrs old a chance?

Actually the short stout fighter that gets under floyds punches gives him much trouble. Castillo is not short but he fights in a crouch and comes in very low as does Jesus chavez who is super short. Floyd had problems with both to me. Same size you get beat up. But shorter is not that much of a disadvantage. Mitchell dont really count he was fighting scared.

[Toopretty]

Forrest would be competitive ..very competitive I mean he would not be Floyds Tarver. But he would be risky.

[jecxbox]

P4P PBF is the better fighter but Vernon is a very good fighter with a huge size advantage which can not be ignored IMO.
His reach would be easy work for Floyd..His wins over Mosley are misleading if you are comparing that to how Floyd would turn out. Mosley isn't really a defensive fighter..he stands straight up..Floyd would get around that reach no problem come in quick as hell and peck him in the face all night. He doesn't have what it takes to beat Floyd.

[stillafan]

Very competitive fight....factors are Forrest size, when hes not scared.....he fights pretty impressive....Floyd would have nothing too hurt Forrest with, plus Forrest being over 6ft tall with a rangy jab, plus his ugly clinchathon would can Frustrate a much much smaller Floyd....Floyd a much better fighter P4p, but the size and strength cannot be ignored....id lean to Floyd in an ultra defensive boring fight, but you cannot ignore Forrest in that match up...

[nervousxtian]

I'm a Floyd fan, but Forrest should win this fight. He has all the tools to beat Floyd, but only because he is naturally so much bigger than Floyd.

Floyd has no business at 154, let alone 147, he should of stuck at 140 and made a legacy.

[BobDigi5060]

This is a tossup.

Floyd would have more problems than he could count with the reach and boxing ability that Forrest has. I know how good he is and all but he hasn't fought anybody as skilled with the type of frame that Forrest has. Not to mention Forrest is most likely going to be the more comfortable guy at 154.

Its the type that I'm certain will almost never happen. We saw how he kept SSM at bay and truth is he didn't look too far from that.

I think Floyd should win but its like the only reason we pick him to win is because he is Floyd Mayweather. Unbeaten and has high expectations to fulfill. Don't be surprised if Forrest rains on the parade once again.

Forrest on a hunch.

[TheGreat]

Very competitive fight....factors are Forrest size, when hes not scared.....he fights pretty impressive....Floyd would have nothing too hurt Forrest with, plus Forrest being over 6ft tall with a rangy jab, plus his ugly clinchathon would can Frustrate a much much smaller Floyd....Floyd a much better fighter P4p, but the size and strength cannot be ignored....id lean to Floyd in an ultra defensive boring fight, but you cannot ignore Forrest in that match up...

Exactly how I see it.

[TheGreat]

I'm a Floyd fan, but Forrest should win this fight. He has all the tools to beat Floyd, but only because he is naturally so much bigger than Floyd.

Floyd has no business at 154, let alone 147, he should of stuck at 140 and made a legacy.

Everybody acts like they are the same size which they aren't, this would be a tough fight to call because of the size difference.

[TheGreat]

His reach would be easy work for Floyd..His wins over Mosley are misleading if you are comparing that to how Floyd would turn out. Mosley isn't really a defensive fighter..he stands straight up..Floyd would get around that reach no problem come in quick as hell and peck him in the face all night. He doesn't have what it takes to beat Floyd.

Anybody that can put a prime SSM on thier ass is someone you have to respect combine that with the size advantage and this would be a good fight.

[jecxbox]

Anybody that can put a prime SSM on thier ass is someone you have to respect combine that with the size advantage and this would be a good fight.

Well we aren't talking about the same Vernon Forrest are we? He is older now and he isn't as sharp as he used to so this entire topic is pointless.

[TheGreat]

Well we aren't talking about the same Vernon Forrest are we? He is older now and he isn't as sharp as he used to so this entire topic is pointless.

True But neither was Oscar and him and PBF were even after 8 at 154 until Oscar faded like he always does in big fights. Vernon doesn't fade plus you can't ignore how much bigger he than PBF he is.

[TheGreat]

i'm gonna go on the limb here and say forrest is a prettier boxer than pretty boy.
:lol: :rofl :lol:

[Alo2006]

I'd give Forrest the benefit of the doubt because of the way he handled Mosley. Forrest has the style to beat shorter, slick boxers with quick hands.

The only significant concern is whether Forrest has his full confidence back.

Mosley isn't a slick boxer, nor do he have the defense Floyd has, so u can't compare how Forrest did with Mosley.

[paulfv]

Forrest knows how to keep smaller fighters at the end of his jab, which is why I think he would win.