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Luigi1985
08-11-2007, 06:48 PM
Here some advices:


Marvin Hagler
Michael Moorer
Manny Pacquiao
Khaosai Galaxy
Bob Murphy

McGrain
08-11-2007, 06:50 PM
Great picks. Are those in order? If not who do you think the hardest puncher is?

Luigi1985
08-11-2007, 06:52 PM
Great picks. Are those in order? If not who do you think the hardest puncher is?


They were 5 spontaneous picks in no order. Mhmm, hard to say who I should pick, I would put Galaxy at 1st, Murphy at 2nd, Hagler at 3rd, Pacquiao at 4th and Moorer the 5th...

doublesuited
08-11-2007, 06:56 PM
Naz.

Luigi1985
08-11-2007, 06:57 PM
Naz.


Very good pick, I forgot him...

ChrisPontius
08-11-2007, 07:18 PM
Pound for pound maybe not that much because he's very big, but Corrie Sanders packed a huge left hand although part of it's effectiveness also came from the handspeed.

achillesthegreat
08-11-2007, 07:21 PM
Here some advices:


Marvin Hagler
Michael Moorer
Manny Pacquiao
Khaosai Galaxy
Bob Murphy
Good picks but not Hagler. Take hmi off and replace him with Naz.

Luigi1985
08-11-2007, 07:21 PM
Good picks but not Hagler. Take hmi off and replace him with Naz.


Yeah, I wrote it yet, I forgot him, so I would put him in the list...

brooklyn1550
08-11-2007, 07:39 PM
Great list - agree with achilles...replace Marvelous Marvin with Naz

JohnThomas1
08-11-2007, 08:21 PM
Nick Wells.

Sam Dixon
08-12-2007, 02:38 AM
I don't know much about him beyond his fearsome reputation as a puncher, but George 'KO' Chaney was a southpaw and based on his rep, at least deserves a mention in this thread, I would think. At least Boxing Illustrated would thinks so anyways, considering that he was rated as their choice as the 4th hardest p4p puncher of all-time in one of their issues from back in the early 90's.

TBooze
08-12-2007, 04:43 AM
Here some advices:


Marvin Hagler


Hagler a southpaw...

A converted right hander, I would say he was more of a switch hitter, but I can understand why people call him southpaw. But in that case Naseem deserves a place on the list as well IMO.

mcvey
08-12-2007, 06:01 AM
Here some advices:


Marvin Hagler
Michael Moorer
Manny Pacquiao
Khaosai Galaxy
Bob Murphy
Hamed, Lew Tendler,Moorer.

Duodenum
08-12-2007, 06:55 PM
I can't help but think of Andy Ganigan and Marvin Johnson. Pops sent Galindez to the deck for the first time in Victor's career. Ganigan's straight left to the body essentially ruined O'Grady's. I do think Hagler had the hardest jab of any southpaw. Rolando Navarrete comes to mind as another southpaw who could bomb away, especially with his right hook. (His right hook to the body was the key punch in flooring Arguello.)

ironchamp
08-12-2007, 06:58 PM
Zab Judah?

JohnThomas1
08-13-2007, 04:44 AM
Tho he doesn't have the greatest resume a guy like Ganigan certainly had more power than the likes of Hagler and many others. Top 5 i'd say for sure, tho anything but a great fighter. Moorer in his time at 175 was frightening power wise.

JohnThomas1
08-13-2007, 04:46 AM
Rolando Navarrete comes to mind as another southpaw who could bomb away, especially with his right hook. (His right hook to the body was the key punch in flooring Arguello.)

I thought it was Ganigan that dropped Arguello, not Navarrete, could be wrong tho.

Duodenum
08-13-2007, 04:57 AM
I thought it was Ganigan that dropped Arguello, not Navarrete, could be wrong tho.My goof JT. Alexis turned Navarrete into a bloody mess in five rounds. (Brain belch.)

Ganigan was responsible for Arguello's most exciting win. His "weird style" had Arguello so confused that Alex kept referring to Andy's bodyshot as a "left" hook. (That stringbean Arguello was tough as nails. Imagine what Ganigan/Mancini might have looked like!)

C. M. Clay II
08-13-2007, 11:25 AM
Here some advices:


Marvin Hagler
Michael Moorer
Manny Pacquiao
Khaosai Galaxy
Bob Murphy

I saw this guy fight a shot LaMotta and he looked pretty featherfisted to me.

mcvey
08-13-2007, 11:36 AM
I don't know much about him beyond his fearsome reputation as a puncher, but George 'KO' Chaney was a southpaw and based on his rep, at least deserves a mention in this thread, I would think. At least Boxing Illustrated would thinks so anyways, considering that he was rated as their choice as the 4th hardest p4p puncher of all-time in one of their issues from back in the early 90's.
Totally forgot Chaney was a south paw ,very good call.

Manassa
08-13-2007, 12:01 PM
Jose Luis Ramirez could crack.

Duodenum
08-13-2007, 01:28 PM
Jose Luis Ramirez could crack.I thought of Jose as having a great chin more than a hard punch. I didn't follow his career that closely, but the single most impressive shot I saw him produce was the flash KD against Arguello. In the Rosario rematch, he buried Chapo in an avalanche of blows, moreso than powering him down. I don't necessarily disagree with you though. 82 knockouts says something about his power, but one stoppage loss in 111 fights (and that against Olivares) says more to me about his toughness. In any event, I think he belongs in the IBHOF, and probably should have been enshrined there for a while now. (Over a hundred wins with losses in the single digits should be like 300 pitching victories in Major League Baseball; a virtually automatic guarantor for induction.)

Manassa
08-13-2007, 01:42 PM
I thought of Jose as having a great chin more than a hard punch. I didn't follow his career that closely, but the single most impressive shot I saw him produce was the flash KD against Arguello. In the Rosario rematch, he buried Chapo in an avalanche of blows, moreso than powering him down. I don't necessarily disagree with you though. 82 knockouts says something about his power, but one stoppage loss in 111 fights (and that against Olivares) says more to me about his toughness. In any event, I think he belongs in the IBHOF, and probably should have been enshrined there for a while now. (Over a hundred wins with losses in the single digits should be like 300 pitching victories in Major League Baseball; a virtually automatic guarantor for induction.)

82 knockouts in 102 wins - around an 80% knockout ratio. Can't get much better than that over so many fights.

mcvey
08-13-2007, 07:42 PM
I saw this guy fight a shot LaMotta and he looked pretty featherfisted to me.
Murphy could hit a bit ,not dynamite quality but respectable,Joey Maxim Jabbed him to death.

Bummy Davis
08-13-2007, 07:51 PM
Corrie Sanders, Nick Wells,Pacman

Manassa
08-13-2007, 07:53 PM
Murphy could hit a bit ,not dynamite quality but respectable,Joey Maxim Jabbed him to death.

I thought Maxim bested Murphy in pretty much every category. Solid performance.

mcvey
08-13-2007, 08:49 PM
I thought Maxim bested Murphy in pretty much every category. Solid performance.
Years ago BI carried an article on their fight "Maxim and the Slugging Sailor"very good piece,Murphy ended up with an eye resembling Basilios against SRR.

salsanchezfan
08-13-2007, 09:49 PM
Marvin Johnson (particularly with that uppercut).

salsanchezfan
08-13-2007, 09:49 PM
Oh; Yoko Gushiken as well.

PowerPuncher
08-14-2007, 05:45 AM
Tyson switched to southpaw sometimes does that count?

Holmes' Jab
08-14-2007, 06:03 AM
Here some advices:


Marvin Hagler
Michael Moorer
Manny Pacquiao
Khaosai Galaxy
Bob Murphy

Yeah, good effort. I'd add Lew Tendler and current SFW prospect Edwin Valero to the list. :good

Luigi1985
08-14-2007, 08:17 AM
I saw this guy fight a shot LaMotta and he looked pretty featherfisted to me.


It looked so because he fought a guy who had one of the best chins p4p ever you dumbass, even at this point of Jakeīs career, if Bob Murphy wasnīt a big puncher, than I really donīt know, or is it because he didnīt fight in Aliīs era? :think

nick wells jr
08-14-2007, 02:55 PM
p4p im going with marvin hagler,maybe moorer since hagler was converted.

jackiebrown
08-14-2007, 03:36 PM
no dubs on big gerry cooney? ... the man was one of the hardest hitting heavyweights of all time!

Duodenum
08-14-2007, 03:57 PM
I saw this guy fight a shot LaMotta and he looked pretty featherfisted to me.LaMotta could make lots of guys look featherfisted.

Duodenum
08-14-2007, 04:04 PM
no dubs on big gerry cooney? ... the man was one of the hardest hitting heavyweights of all time!Yes, but not from a southpaw stance. (Ditto Joe Frazier.) Although I don't think he belongs on this list of hardest punchers, Jim Watt is classified as a southpaw. But it's my understanding that he's actually right handed, yet adopted the southpaw stance because it felt more comfortable to him. (How many of those have there been?)

Raging B(_)LL
08-14-2007, 05:13 PM
Yes, but not from a southpaw stance. (Ditto Joe Frazier.) Although I don't think he belongs on this list of hardest punchers, Jim Watt is classified as a southpaw. But it's my understanding that he's actually right handed, yet adopted the southpaw stance because it felt more comfortable to him. (How many of those have there been?)

Michael Moorer was also right handed, but chose to fight out of the southpaw stance for the same reason as Jim Watt. Another southpaw bomber that deserves a mention would be Bazooka Limon... and while they weren`t southpaws, both Florentino Fernandez and Eduardo Lausse where natural left handers, and they where two of the hardest hitting middleweights I have ever seen, especially with the left hook.

Duodenum
08-14-2007, 05:33 PM
Michael Moorer was also right handed, but chose to fight out of the southpaw stance for the same reason as Jim Watt. Another southpaw bomber that deserves a mention would be Bazooka Limon... and while they weren`t southpaws, both Florentino Fernandez and Eduardo Lausse where natural left handers, and they where two of the hardest hitting middleweights I have ever seen, especially with the left hook.Appreciate the info! That's intriguing, especially considering that Moorer is classified as the first southpaw HW champion. There have been numerous southpaws who were converted to the orthodox stance (Tyson said to be one), but I don't recall ever knowing that about Moorer and Limon being converted right handers.

Being natural left handers, it's rather remarkable that Tyson and Hagler were both known for having a devastating right. (The question of which southpaws had the best right hands might make an interesting thread out of an obscure subject matter.)

Mike T
08-14-2007, 05:41 PM
Vassily Jirov at cruiser?

Raging B(_)LL
08-14-2007, 07:14 PM
Appreciate the info! That's intriguing, especially considering that Moorer is classified as the first southpaw HW champion. There have been numerous southpaws who were converted to the orthodox stance (Tyson said to be one), but I don't recall ever knowing that about Moorer and Limon being converted right handers.

Being natural left handers, it's rather remarkable that Tyson and Hagler were both known for having a devastating right. (The question of which southpaws had the best right hands might make an interesting thread out of an obscure subject matter.)

Duo,

Very few people know this, but believe it or not Limon was neither a natural right or left hander... he was actually ambidextrous, but he felt more comfortable fighting from the southpaw stance which is why he fought from that stance his entire career.

Duodenum
08-14-2007, 07:25 PM
Duo,

Very few people know this, but believe it or not Limon was neither a natural right or left hander... he was actually ambidextrous, but he felt more comfortable fighting from the southpaw stance which is why he fought from that stance his entire career.Once again, that's pretty cool material. Supposedly, true ambidexterity poses serious developmental problems, but it hardly seems to have impaired him. Then again, it might explain his defensive vulnerabilities. As "Flash" Gordon wrote before he took on Arguello, "With his style, he might get hit by Skylab." (The old space station burned upon re-entering the atmosphere at the time of that fight.)

nick wells jr
08-15-2007, 04:32 PM
nick wells in 1972.yes as an amateur and in his prime.somewhere in there i think he deserves a mention.