Best Prospect in UK boxing??

[brown bomber]

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I shit you not..... If this man isn't at least a top domestic contender I will have ribs removed and .......

You get my drift.

What I saw last night was truly a unique talent. I feel that with correct management we will see this man develop into a potentially world class operator. Remember this post.... :good

[David UK]

He's lost four already!!

[robpalmer135]

yeh why did he loose 4 fights?

[brown bomber]

Yep... I'm thinking outside of the box but i've been involved in boxing for nearly 20 years and he is a unique talent. Believe me.

[TFFP]

I think best prospect in UK boxing might be a stretch.

Maybe you've seen an unpolished diamond for British honours. It's a bold call.

[brown bomber]

I think best prospect in UK boxing might be a stretch.

Maybe you've seen an unpolished diamond for British honours. It's a bold call. Thus the ?? marks :yep But seriously I will put a youtube vid on here asap.

[ishy]

His debut was against Jackson Bonsu who was Euro champ and is fighting in a WBC eliminator soon.

[hitman_hatton1]

james degale. :hi:

accept it. :yep

[jc]

A 'unique' talent, doesnt make a good talent...

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[icemax]

A 'unique' talent, doesnt make a good talent...

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I fucking love variety acts :thumbsup

BTW, I suspect that there is something not right about El Maachis record

[brown bomber]

I fucking love variety acts :thumbsup

BTW, I suspect that there is something not right about El Maachis record



This could be classed as a variety act.....

This is against 13-0 Kevin Concepcion..... Last night he was even better then this..

Asdwju7z74E

[Beeston Brawler]

He has been matched pretty tough in his fights thus far

[Beeston Brawler]

Just another thought.........

Rather than having the referee score the fight as well, should there be a minimum of one ringside judge scoring?

I think the ref ought to be able to just ref, rather than having to analyse the action further.....

One rule that has to go is the accidental headbutt rule - it is hardly fair to lose by TKO if you cop one above the eye...... we should adopt the no-contest rule as seen elsewhere.

[wayne3280]

Need a Hamed-like chin to go with that style though...

[brown bomber]

He went 31-0 as an amatuer including victories against the german, begium and dutch champions. 4-4 as a pro?!!! with that kind of ability. Doesn't take a genius to work out somethings amis.

I was so impressed last night... I'm sure anyone thre would agree

[Beeston Brawler]

Quite often a guy with an early loss (due to poor performance for instance) will be ripped off when there is a close fight and the opponent is a touted star.

Murray lost to al-Hamidi beyond question......

[Boxing Gloves]

He looks good, records can be decieving though, just look at johnny nelsons early career.

[GPater11093]

Quite often a guy with an early loss (due to poor performance for instance) will be ripped off when there is a close fight and the opponent is a touted star.

Murray lost to al-Hamidi beyond question......


agree about murray losing

yeh he has lost afew early but is a good fighter and he does seem to lose close desicions but if you look at his record theres some impressive names. the fighters he have lost to are good fighters, he has been matched far too hard far too early

[brown bomber]

Mark my words- if managed correctly he will be a International Champion!!

[GPater11093]

i reckon he could maybe be a european champ or better

[achillesthegreat]

Anthony Small part two?!?!?!

[steelem]

Like his style - seems fast & hard punching too - just a shame about thoses losses never look good on a record

[GPater11093]

records should have nothing to do with it. he should if he starts beating good fighters should get title shots etc...

[Beeston Brawler]

Small is a bum!

I like guys being matched hard, but properly. Both Hatton and Calzaghe were matched averagely IMO, Khan was protected upto the eyeballs in his first 15 contests......

Appleby is probably the best matched British youngster of the past few years - five bums, a few journeymen and then the British title against a decent opponent, then a reasonable (rather than easy) first defence.

Someone like Kell Brook has promised an awful lot, but up until his last two fights has barely fought someone with a detectable pulse.

[icemax]

He went 31-0 as an amatuer including victories against the german, begium and dutch champions. 4-4 as a pro?!!! with that kind of ability. Doesn't take a genius to work out somethings amis.

I was so impressed last night... I'm sure anyone thre would agree

That lead left hand is absolutely outrageous :yep , the way he swarms and jumps into shots makes him look like a bit of a throwback, but I agree that with a style like that he will need a hell of a chin.

There is quite a big gap in his history, it would be interesting to see what happened during this period. I'd certainly pay to see him. :deal

[brown bomber]

He owned Small in sparring....

[ishy]

Jeff is this the same guy who you posted a story about a couple of weeks ago, the guy who bet Maloney his entire purse and won?

[brown bomber]

Jeff is this the same guy who you posted a story about a couple of weeks ago, the guy who bet Maloney his entire purse and won?yes sir... in the above fight.

[ishy]

yes sir... in the above fight.

:good He's got an entertaining style and co do well but he needs to matched properly. So face he's faced some tough competition for someone with the amount of fights he's had.

[brown bomber]

You should have seen him last night.... Just awesome. Plus he can make Welterweight..... Allegedly.

[realsoulja]

This could be classed as a variety act.....

This is against 13-0 Kevin Concepcion..... Last night he was even better then this..

Asdwju7z74E

he got a great left hook
and was able to use it effectivley against an opponent taller than himself.

[MickeyBlueEyess]

Is it just me or is this kid a carbon copy of Prince Naseem Hamed? Looks almost identical the way he fights.

Certainly looks a good prospect and an exciting fighter.

[Grievesy]

Is it just me or is this kid a carbon copy of Prince Naseem Hamed? Looks almost identical the way he fights.

Certainly looks a good prospect and an exciting fighter.

That's what I thought. But does he have the chin is the question? If not he's getting knocked out and sooner rather than later.

[Strike]

That's what I thought. But does he have the chin is the question? If not he's getting knocked out and sooner rather than later.

He has already been KOd twice in the 11 fights he has had as a pro. He looks very talented and losing some early 4 round fights is not the end of the world, but he has been KOd for a 10 count and stopped another time too.

That alone suggests that his chin is not good enough to allow him to use that style and mix it higher up.

[wayne3280]

That's what I thought. But does he have the chin is the question? If not he's getting knocked out and sooner rather than later.

A very wise man shared that view on the first page...

[Grievesy]

He has already been KOd twice in the 11 fights he has had as a pro. He looks very talented and losing some early 4 round fights is not the end of the world, but he has been KOd for a 10 count and stopped another time too.

That alone suggests that his chin is not good enough to allow him to use that style and mix it higher up.

In that case he should learn to keep his hands up, if he wants to go far.

[light-welter]

michael mcguire is a great prospect. I've only seen one of his bouts against the USA, but he was the best boxer on the show. Not sure how Joe Murray got chosen to fight in the worlds ahead of him at bantamweight, but he's one to look out for.
Other than that, Amir Kahn is the UK's best prospect.
It's to early to call james degale a prospect.

[Smurker]

I'm not taken by Degale, he can be good but i am yet to be won over. Khan has plenty of talent but his flaw doesn't need explaining. Still think he will take a world title though.


The kid in this clip looks exciting to watch, the Hamed comparison is so clear it's untrue, even down to the arms down shoulder shimmy that he used to do to take the piss. I do know that i could really get behind a fighter that has a few losses because he wasn't interested in a padded career, someone prepared to take losses on his record in order to improve at a quicker rate. Needs to produce more power from his right and improve his defence though, he doesn't quite have the speed of head movement to perfect that style imo. Good luck to the lad though.

[David UK]

I love to watch that hands down southpaw style,Hamed,Camacho,Witter,Haskins etc

Is he with the Ingles Jeff? If he isn't, maybe he should be!!

[GPater11093]

hes with ben doughty a young trainer from london

[brown bomber]

He's actually the boxing coach for London Shoot Fighters. He's now strongly tied with Kevin Maree too...

[MIK1000]

word has it he gave Paul Williams fits in sparring over in the states.

[FLINT ISLAND]

Brendan Ingle style like that can be complete sucide at a higher level

Pele Reid looked sensational blasting people out............then they stuck him in there with world rated Orlin Norris and he came out with his hands down by his bollocks................and BANG !!!!!!!!

all over

Orlin Norris KO 1 Pele Reid

[robster]

I'm with Jeff Thomas on this one.

I've seen El Maachi twice and the guy from Rabat, Morrocco is awesome. The first time he came as opposition to the house fighter, Eamonn Goodbrand, a decent Scottish prospect, undefeated in 4 and when he came to fight Goodbrand and he was definitely the "away" boxer, he'd had 8 fights, lost 4 and was there as the journeyman, he took Goodbrand apart.

Incidentally, that night I heard the MC ask the boxer earlier, did he want his record (4 wins- 4 losses) read out or should he say 9th contest. El Maachi was adament, "read it out, I dont care, the last two were bad decisions, I gotta knock them out to win!" He said it with a big smile on his face and I took an instant shine to the guy.

Frank Maloney made the same mistake against Concepcion and he was stopped.

El Maachi was the "home" boxer last night, but the promoter Carlo Rea only seems to put shows on at this venue and he doesn't manage any boxers, so I don't know where El Maachi will get the fights, I doubt if Maloney, ****** or the rest will be in a hurry to put him in against their prospects now. He has the talent to go places but has he got the promoter to get him the fights?

I say good luck to him, he's great to watch and comes across well outside the ring.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think the Ingle style can be very successful, but you need to be prepared to throw a lot of punches or have a great beard.

[dwilson]

Hopefuly he gets the right backing now.

[brown bomber]

it's looking promising for him, maloney has promised him some airtime and he has some excellent sponsors interested, he just needs a couple more big wins

[widdy]

seems like a decent lad,(personaly i thought conception was very poor before this fight)hope he dus well.
jeff are you boxing for kevin at blackpool ,plus who you fighting mate?

[brown bomber]

Lu4_dRVU4Yk Last Sunday :-)

[Raashid]

At 29 it lookslike he's wasted a few years already and may be too late to iron out his flaws. I'll be supporting him though, being from Finsbury Park he's a local lad!

[widdy]

i think he needs to fight someone who will hit him back,no offence jeff ,dont wanna piss on your parade,me thinks if he fights someone of good quality,he will get beat(again).you can say conceptcion was 14-0(2),but he never fought a unbeaten fighter,or a decent loser:nut

ps defo nasseem hamed clone though,and he were good:hey:hey

[FLINT ISLAND]

i think he needs to fight someone who will hit him back,no offence jeff ,dont wanna piss on your parade,me thinks if he fights someone of good quality,he will get beat(again).you can say conceptcion was 14-0(2),but he never fought a unbeaten fighter,or a decent loser:nut

ps defo nasseem hamed clone though,and he were good:hey:hey


I agree

It dont mean he will get beat..................but that fight dont really tell you nothing

He was just hitting a human punch bag............apart from that burst at the start of the 2nd round from that Welsh bean pole

[fowler9-is-god]

just cause he fights like naz doesnt make him special. naz was special because he could use that style and beat everyone put in front of him. this kid barely has more wins than loses and a ryan rhodes/bradley pryce would take him well and truly apart.

[ShadowWorks]

I could be mistaken but based on those videos he was fighting fodder not lead balls, I don't see anything that a decent boxer can't do with a dopey fighter, he will have to get more fights with higher calibre pugilist, I look like Wimbledon Champion against a casual Tennis player, but I'm not even close in reality.

[brown bomber]

???? El Maachi was brilliant- how about it- seems like ITV agree with me.

[rooq]

just wish he gets the chance to fight for a domestic title soon. he does qualify i take it?

[somerset]

Going off-topic but I see he got beaten by Vassell. What happened to Vassell? I remember he was the guy who damaged Frochs ribs before his fight with Pascal...

[richard mossley]

Going off-topic but I see he got beaten by Vassell. What happened to Vassell? I remember he was the guy who damaged Frochs ribs before his fight with Pascal...

He won last night on points. Also Vassell had Spitko out quicker, he did him in 3. At the age of 30 I cant see this Morocan fella going that far.

[Tony Bellew]

Going off-topic but I see he got beaten by Vassell. What happened to Vassell? I remember he was the guy who damaged Frochs ribs before his fight with Pascal...


I thought that was Cuban Luis Garcia who damaged Froch's ribs???

[carlos_jackal]

I thought that was Cuban Luis Garcia who damaged Froch's ribs???

I heard it was Garcia too. I heard he was giving froch nightmares. He's a class act

[somerset]

I thought that was Cuban Luis Garcia who damaged Froch's ribs???
Maybe I remembered it wrong. Memory not as good as it was :-(