Bernard Dunne VS Martinez Khan VS Presscott

[saintsmike]

Why does Khan get ALOT more hate because of it.
Yet people don't say the same shit about Dunne?
:?

[TFFP]

Nobody cares about Bernard Dunne. He isn't rammed down peoples throats or being arrogant.

[Boxing Gloves]

yup, dunne had a little bit of hype, but he wasnt topping bills on his debut and he wasnt fighting on sky box office before he had left domestic level.

Khan was rammed down our throats, and it was pure karma to see him knocked out on his box office debut, and it serves those greedy bastards in rupert murdoch and frank ****** right for thinking they could get away with it.

[saintsmike]

That isn't exactly Khans fault though.
Frank ****** was the one MAKING the bills.
And the shit thrown at Khan is a bit unfair.
Wouldn't it be strange if someone who won our only Olympic boxing medal (like Audley) didn't get hyped up like that. Because ALOT of the whole nation know who they are.

[icemax]

That isn't exactly Khans fault though.
Frank ****** was the one MAKING the bills.
And the shit thrown at Khan is a bit unfair.
Wouldn't it be strange if someone who won our only Olympic boxing medal (like Audley) didn't get hyped up like that. Because ALOT of the whole nation know who they are.

I actually agree with most of what you say, I don't really think that Khan is arrogant, he's just a bit thick and regurgitating what Frank has told him to say.

You would think that with all the criticism that Khan has taken any medalist from the olympics would sign pro with minimum fuss , and just get on with the job. Unfortunately it seems that DeGale has not learned the lesson and is bound to suffer the same hate fate as Amir....I hate the cunt already. :blood

[D-MAC]

I actually agree with most of what you say, I don't really think that Khan is arrogant, he's just a bit thick and regurgitating what Frank has told him to say.

You would think that with all the criticism that Khan has taken any medalist from the olympics would sign pro with minimum fuss , and just get on with the job. Unfortunately it seems that DeGale has not learned the lesson and is bound to suffer the same hate fate as Amir....I hate the cunt already. :blood

I guess its a case of "money talks". Being a big mouth arrogant type sells tickets, and helps pull in the Joe Public types who know next to nothing about boxing.

[Beeston Brawler]

Khan is probably disliked by boxing fans because judging by his tone, he actually felt he could beat the likes of Hatton, Pacquiao and Mayweather.

Dunne was never spouting off saying he could beat Vasquez, Marquez etc.

The fact that he felt a Cuban amateur trainer could help him more than someone like Dean Powell, Oliver Harrison or Anthony Farnell didn't help either.

[icemax]

I guess its a case of "money talks". Being a big mouth arrogant type sells tickets, and helps pull in the Joe Public types who know next to nothing about boxing.

:good Agree


Khan is probably disliked by boxing fans because judging by his tone, he actually felt he could beat the likes of Hatton, Pacquiao and Mayweather.


I think that that is definately why boxing fans dislike him, but as I said, he is a bit of a thick twat and he probably believes everything that uncle Frank tells him...being thick is no reason to hate. :thumbsup

[saintsmike]

It isn't any suprise for people who don't follow boxing but will see that 'amir khan kid' him saying he can beat the champions is good publicity of course to boxing fans it pisses us off.
But it keeps him in the media spotlight which is EXACTLY what Frank ****** wants.

[achillesthegreat]

True. Martinez did a number on Dunne. Dunne wasn't hyped as much but then he didn't have the right to be because he didn't go into the pros as arguably the best amateur lightweight in the world.

[SouthpawSlayer]

because dunne wasnt claiming to go on to be a 3weight world champ after suffering knockdowns against guys who werent exactly p4p bangers,

dunne wasnt claiming to succeed great irish fighters like mc guigan and collins unlike amir who pissed off quite a lot of people by saying he wanted to fight hatton and would beat him also,

also dunne is not thick, khan has the intelligence of me after drinking 20 pints of guinness

all these things that show how different dunne is from khan although they are quite similar in the chin department

[icemax]

dunne wasnt claiming to succeed great irish fighters like mc guigan and collins unlike amir who pissed off quite a lot of people by saying he wanted to fight hatton and would beat him also,

Source please:deal

I have never once heard Khan say that he wants to succeed any great Irish fighter....I didn't think that he was Irish :huh The Cork O'Khans is that?

[SouthpawSlayer]

unlike amir who pissed off a lot of people by saying he wanted to fight hatton


this is my qoute you must have read it wrong, khan said he wanted to fight hatton

thank fuck khan aint irish, id dislike him even more

[dwilson]

People dislike Khan because he appears to be a complete wanker. Plus all the other reason folk have already mentioned. Dunne lost while fighting for a good title but Khan lost while trying to improve his shoddy record against another bum.

Khan has gone ppv because HE believes that is what he is worth. ****** knows the only way he can keep Khan is by paying loads of money and that means the ppv's.

[GazOC]

I actually agree with most of what you say, I don't really think that Khan is arrogant, he's just a bit thick and regurgitating what Frank has told him to say.



Thats my take on Khan. He's not arrogant, just a bit thick and believes all the BS he hears going on around him.

[saintsmike]

Presscott is a much better fighter than Kiko Martinez!
Seriously. Lets see in a couple of years where they both are at.

[dwilson]

Prescott has never shown anything that implies he is better than Kiko.

[BamBam]

saintsmike, get over it. Khan is a mouthpiece who was talking about being better than most of the elite P4P fighters in the world before he had even fought someone decent at domestic level. He ended up getting starched by a handpicked fighter who was there to pad his record. PPV for Khan is a disgrace. He still hasn't gone into a fight where you are looking at his opponent and thinking 'this lad is a good fighter'.

Dunne got beaten by a ranked challenger for a legitimate belt. He also never claimed he was going to beat all these elite fighters or got carried away with himself and made all sorts out stupid statements.

Prescott and Martinez are two similar fighters. Both are very limited and if you can stay out of range they look ordinary to say the least. Both have a lot of KO's against lads with poor records. And both have just the 1 big scalp in their respective divisions.

Khan dug his own hole and its silly not to expect people to be glad to see him sparked. He rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way. The same cannot be said of Dunne

[boxingwriter]

Dunne was so gracious in defeat, he was apologetic to his fans and congratulated Kiko.
Khan practically dismissed his defeat by saying it was a silly mistake.

Dunne is a down to earth, well spoken kid.
Khan is a cocky, thick mouthpiece.

Dunne was defending a title against a mandatory challenger.
Khan was fighting a supposedly average boxer and took a win for granted.

Irish fans (most of them anyway) like to support there sports people in success and defeat.
I won't generalise about British people but the build them up to tear them down thing seems quite prevalent in British sport.

[Beeston Brawler]

At least Dunne had the balls to face his mando.

Khan ducked Thaxton pretty bad, despite being offered £400k to fight.

[ShadowWorks]

Khan ducked Thaxton pretty bad, despite being offered £400k to fight.

Source? Link? Hyperbole?

[Beeston Brawler]

The old Hennessy Sports website doesn't work anymore......

Everyone knows... look at the back issues of Boxing Monthly, they report it as well.

[dwilson]

I do not think British fight fans warmed to Khan from the start. He is just a marketing scam for the modern Britain but a big time cock head to boot.

Dunne is apreciated and liked in Britain even after his loss by fight fans. He has a bit of talent and is a decent guy it seems. Hopefully if he gets a few good hard fights thrown at him he will gain another belt. While Khan would prefer to play it safe and not face dangerous opposition.

[Healy]

If i ever liked a fighter more because of defeat its Dunne, he was humbled, made no excuses bar he felt he got caught cold while praiing Kiko. He got back in the ring against decent opposition and actually boxed better than before, he has talent theres no doubt...

ANOTHER thing, Dunne was offered a world title shot but turned it down, not everyone knows this, he is realistic and wants to rebuild himself and not just fight (probably Molitor at the time though they didnt say who he was offered a fight with) to cash in...
He admits he wasnt ready.....

Khan is a numbnut, big headed, hyped up fighter with little appreciation for his fans in truth....PPV my arse, but thats ******

[BamBam]

He was offered Cabellro. When the Molitor-Cabellero fight was up in the air for a while (tv dispute) Cab wanted to get Dunne in for an interim fight before the Molitor fight could be made

[BigEars]

He was offered Cabellro. When the Molitor-Cabellero fight was up in the air for a while (tv dispute) Cab wanted to get Dunne in for an interim fight before the Molitor fight could be made

It was before Dunne's second comeback fight with Marchiano though(well the fight would have taken place a month after, but negotiations were before that fight), so it was too early for Dunne to be thrown to the wolves like that.

Even if he got a World shot now it'll probably be against an easier foe than Caballero, even if it's up at Featherweight(v Cruz or Larios).

[SouthpawSlayer]

It was before Dunne's second comeback fight with Marchiano though(well the fight would have taken place a month after, but negotiations were before that fight), so it was too early for Dunne to be thrown to the wolves like that.

Even if he got a World shot now it'll probably be against an easier foe than Caballero, even if it's up at Featherweight(v Cruz or Larios).

you said it

[ninebar]

Why does Khan get ALOT more hate because of it.
Yet people don't say the same shit about Dunne?
:?

Because Dunne has Class and Khan is a prick! :lol: