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Sister Sledge
08-12-2007, 07:33 AM
Should the ref have stopped this fight after the first knockdown? I think so. Rey did a dance that would have made Judah proud, and he was visibly on shaky, trembling legs when the ref waved the fight back on. He could have stopped it. What does anybody else think?

CASH_718
08-12-2007, 07:39 AM
Should the ref have stopped this fight after the first knockdown? I think so. Rey did a dance that would have made Judah proud, and he was visibly on shaky, trembling legs when the ref waved the fight back on. He could have stopped it. What does anybody else think?Pussy.............. I want blood.............

Sister Sledge
08-12-2007, 07:44 AM
Pussy.............. I want blood.............

Damn, dude. You have a potty mouth.

boxbox
08-12-2007, 07:44 AM
yeah twas just right..so these promoters will stop throwing these young fighters with the tigers..well who knows? they must have thought he will win.

CASH_718
08-12-2007, 07:49 AM
Damn, dude. You have a potty mouth.You remind me of my 1st grade teacher........... That hore.

Sister Sledge
08-12-2007, 08:03 AM
You remind me of my 1st grade teacher........... That hore.

You remind me of a bitch who has nothing else to do, so you wanna fuck with me. I ain't the one to steal on, bro. You need to back off.

CASH_718
08-12-2007, 08:06 AM
You remind me of a bitch who has nothing else to do, so you wanna fuck with me. I ain't the one to steal on, bro. You need to back off.:lol: What could you possibly do to me right now???

Sister Sledge
08-12-2007, 08:07 AM
:lol: What could you possibly do to me right now???

Give you a harsh lecture.:tong

CASH_718
08-12-2007, 08:10 AM
Give you a harsh lecture.:tongI wont read it.:blah

Danny Ocean
08-12-2007, 08:26 AM
the fight should never have been happened

it was a boy vs man

bulakenyo
08-12-2007, 08:40 AM
yes, it was boy vs man. mismatch all around.

but about the stoppage. in world title fights, refs tend to give the fighters more chances to fight back and rally. if it was a regular, non title fight, the ref would have stopped it on the first KD, but being a title fight, he wanted to give the downed fighter one last chance to fight back, turn the tide and maybe finish the round.

Sister Sledge
08-12-2007, 08:43 AM
yes, it was boy vs man. mismatch all around.

but about the stoppage. in world title fights, refs tend to give the fighters more chances to fight back and rally. if it was a regular, non title fight, the ref would have stopped it on the first KD, but being a title fight, he wanted to give the downed fighter one last chance to fight back, turn the tide and maybe finish the round.

Boom Boom was shaken a lot more that Judah was in the Tzyu fight, but the ref let it continue. What do you think of this? It was pretty obvious to me that Rey was out on his feet and was a goner.

bulakenyo
08-12-2007, 09:03 AM
Yeah, he was drilled pretty hard. And I would have stopped it if I were the ref, but the ref was probably thinking if he stopped the fight, some people will say it was premature, that BoomBoom could have shaken it off and could have recovered well enough to finish the round. Bautista's just has too much machismo sometimes, thats why he gets into trouble. When he's hurt, he rarely clinches. He just fights back recklessly. And when he gets knocked down, he doesnt stay down long enough to get his equilibrium back. Stay down till the count of 8, kid?

It kinda goes both ways. If Joe Cortez simply waved off the fight after JMMarquez was KD 3 times in round one of the Pacman-Marquez fight, we wouldnt have seen Marquez come back and salvage a draw.

koko of phil
08-12-2007, 10:26 AM
I say it shouldve been stopped in the first kd, Bautista is already lost from his senses. But it's just right decision for the ref to give Boomboom a chance if he could come back.

nervousxtian
08-12-2007, 10:38 AM
Damn, no wonder we all bitch about early stoppages, look at you guys.

I think it was stopped too early. He should of gave Bautista a chance to stand up after the 2nd KD, and if he was shaky then call it.

Watch the old timers fight, they let them get up every damn time until they couldn't. A lot of great fighters would of had more loses on their records if they called ever fight when someone looked shaky.

Let the guy have a chance to get back in the fight. It's boxing, not ping-pong.

bulakenyo
08-12-2007, 10:49 AM
Damn, no wonder we all bitch about early stoppages, look at you guys.

I think it was stopped too early. He should of gave Bautista a chance to stand up after the 2nd KD, and if he was shaky then call it.

Watch the old timers fight, they let them get up every damn time until they couldn't. A lot of great fighters would of had more loses on their records if they called ever fight when someone looked shaky.

Let the guy have a chance to get back in the fight. It's boxing, not ping-pong.


Bautista IS a kid. If he was allowed to fight after the 2nd KD, I know he's got enough balls to still fight on pure instict, and De Leon's gonna tee off on him hard.

If that happens, his promising career's gonna get ruined.

Its not the 1930s anymore. Today, we care more about a fighter's safety and well being. Lets let him fight another day.

brooklyn1550
08-12-2007, 11:11 AM
After the first knockdown, he was on wobbly legs, but he deserved the chance to try and make it out of the round. He showed heart getting back up, but he was knocked down again, and the ref stopped it at, what I thought, was the right moment. I don't think it should have been stopped after the 1st knockdown. But after the 2nd, he is a young guy and should take a lesson from this and live to fight another day.

myk
08-12-2007, 11:19 AM
I don't think he should have been matched with Deleon in the first place.

Grabonator
08-12-2007, 11:27 AM
Should the ref have stopped this fight after the first knockdown? I think so. Rey did a dance that would have made Judah proud, and he was visibly on shaky, trembling legs when the ref waved the fight back on. He could have stopped it. What does anybody else think?

I think it was good as it was. It should not been stopped earlier.

Grabonator
08-12-2007, 11:29 AM
I think Bautista was rushed into an titlefight to fast. Not everyone can be champion with 20 years like Tyson, only all time greats can do that.
But i think Leon is just a verry good fighter, a verry STRONG fighter.

koko of phil
08-12-2007, 11:37 AM
One thing I notice about Bautista, he easily get disturbed when being pressed or hurt. Anyway he is still young, he has a lot to learn and must take this lose a lesson.

BigEars
08-12-2007, 12:22 PM
Perfect stoppage imo , anytime before that would have been premature .
There was no need to let him continue after the second knockdown though as it was clear the fight was done .

Ponce knew he had to go at Bautista from the start and not let the kid get into a rythem and start outboxing De Leon , and he executed his plan perfectly . He was looking to finish Bautista from the start but he didn't go in throwing wild hooks , he was throwing lots of very powerful 1-2's which were mainly off target but when one of them landed flush that was it . 2 hard straight lefts after boom boom gets up and De Leon shows that even the Super Bantamweight champion regarded as the weakest is very formidable .

Amsterdam
08-12-2007, 12:26 PM
Perfect stoppage, but it was surely over when that kid's fragile chin was tapped proper.

nervousxtian
08-12-2007, 12:46 PM
I think he should of been stopped after the second KD, but I thought he should of been given the chance to stand back up like a fighter, and have the ref look him in the eyes and say no more. That is the right way to stop it, but the ref bounced and waved it off AS SOON AS HE WENT DOWN.

No more damage would of been done, but he could of let Bautista show his heart to his fans one more time, I feel that rob fighters of that way too often. Give them a chance to beat the count, or give the fighter who knocked down the other guy to have a legit 10 count KO.

We hardly ever get 10 count KO's anymore unless it's a bodyshot, as they never let the count get that far, they are always waving it off.

It's a minor gripe though, but I feel the boxers deserve the right to stand back up like a man, and if they can't, they can't.

RDJ
08-12-2007, 12:51 PM
Good stoppage indeed.

thewoo
08-12-2007, 12:57 PM
I think it was fine to let him go on. He is young fighter, he hadn't taken a sustained beating, and it was just the first round. He deserved a chance to try to fight his way back.