what can be done about spitting out the mouthguard

[Nawfal]

this pisses me off when fighters do this. its blatant cheating, everyone knows it. sometimes it gets knocked out. but not when the take it out of their mouth

if they spit it out, the ref should just put it in without washing it off. or he should carry a spare one for both fighters.

[Club Fighter]

Jesus Christ, Diego Corrales is already dead already. What more do you want?

[achillesthegreat]

Fight on. If it falls out you fight on, period.

Another thing is the ref can have a spare one for each fighter and as soon as it falls out he throws the spare in their mouth when there is a lull in the action.

Its bollocks that they get taken to the corner, the gumshield is washed, the cornerman wastes time etc

These guys are athletes, you give them 10 seconds rest and they have totally lost their opportunity to close the show.

[joe33]

Cello tape there mouths up

[Marnoff]

If it is on purpose, you deduct a point immediately and get another one in fast. If it happens again, they have to continue fighting without it. If it happens again after that, disqualification.

[platnumpapi]

its apart of boxing its not that big of a deal really.you can warn them and then you can take points from them.its no worse then the other fouls in boxing expect sometimes you can help it.

like broke jaw.
or you are tired and breathing through ur mouth and you get clocked and it comes out.
or you spit it out cause you need more time to recovery from kd if that was the case.
sometimes is comes out before even getting koed.

not that big of a deal to me.

[Vantage_West]

Fight on. If it falls out you fight on, period.

.exactly only at the end of the round do they do put it back in.

[El Bombasto]

if they spit it out, deduct a point and put it back in, don't bother taking the fighter to his corner, they will only rinse it out with water (which doesn't sterilze the mouth piece in any way) and waste time.

[platnumpapi]

the mouth piece is alot serious then some of you guys may know.it can prevent ur teeth being knocked down ur throat, cuz if that was to happen u would die or choke real bad.then the fight is really over.

u want tell a fighter to not use his cup or wait, i not u can spit out da cup but it protects the fighters just the same and his just as important in more ways then 1 to the fighter.

so they would dq a guy before they would say no u cant put it back in until the rd is over.

only thing you can do is warn them and then take a point then warm them then take away point, then after that u can dq them.its not gone get any better then that.

[El Bombasto]

the mouth piece is alot serious then some of you guys may know.it can prevent ur teeth being knocked down ur throat, cuz if that was to happen u would die or choke real bad.then the fight is really over.

u want tell a fighter to not use his cup or wait, i not u can spit out da cup but it protects the fighters just the same and his just as important in more ways then 1 to the fighter.

so they would dq a guy before they would say no u cant put it back in until the rd is over.

only thing you can do is warn them and then take a point then warm them then take away point, then after that u can dq them.its not gone get any better then that.

then why would anyone spit it out?

[Toopretty]

I guess you try being punched in the jaw with a sore jawbone and keep a mouthpiece in. If your jaw is broken or swollen its hard to keep it in. IE Corrales in the Clottey fight. He took many shots to the jaw and he truly did not spit it out. I guess those who never been in a fist fight or let alone never boxed a second in there life dont know the toll of getting hit on the jaw compulsively would do. I guess Arthur Abraham should of got DQd in the Miranda fight for the 8 years he had to recover from a broken jaw. Cant have it both ways

[Marnoff]

I guess you try being punched in the jaw with a sore jawbone and keep a mouthpiece in. If your jaw is broken or swollen its hard to keep it in. IE Corrales in the Clottey fight. He took many shots to the jaw and he truly did not spit it out. I guess those who never been in a fist fight or let alone never boxed a second in there life dont know the toll of getting hit on the jaw compulsively would do. I guess Arthur Abraham should of got DQd in the Miranda fight for the 8 years he had to recover from a broken jaw. Cant have it both ways

We're talking about it being spit out intentionally. There is a big difference. If someone spits it out intentionally, they deserve point deductions and disqualifications. It's like hitting someone low to get out of trouble.

[Illmatic]

If it is on purpose, you deduct a point immediately and get another one in fast. If it happens again, they have to continue fighting without it. If it happens again after that, disqualification.

there we go, sounds good to me

[hooligan]

then why would anyone spit it out?

to recover from a shot...just like corrales did against castillo...

RIP diego...

[brooklyn1550]

If the spitting out is on purpose...
1st time - warning
2nd time- 1 point deducted
3rd time - 2 points deducted
4th time - DQ

That's my opinion on the subject

[Toopretty]

Well, If it is the first few rounds and the other guy has not been cracking you with shots all night then points. But if it is a WAR like Corrales/Castillo I give Corrales the benefit of the doubt that the crushing left hand of castillo made his jaw hurt enough for him to open his mouth and not shut it with force in pain. I mean bitting down on something with a toothache is erkingly painful. Imagine taking 10 rounds of punches to your jaw..They are boxers and human beings. Not cyborgs...although I still think Klitschko is an actual robot from the future....lol

[Drusome]

this pisses me off when fighters do this. its blatant cheating, everyone knows it. sometimes it gets knocked out. but not when the take it out of their mouth

if they spit it out, the ref should just put it in without washing it off. or he should carry a spare one for both fighters.

You answered your own question. Of course, this makes too much sense to implement in boxing.

[El Bombasto]

to recover from a shot...just like corrales did against castillo...

RIP diego...

exactly, so put it back in immediately (without taking time to rinse it) and deduct a point (warnings aren't necessary for this infraction).

[igotJUIC3]

super glu...:good

[CASH_718]

Just pick it up and put it back in his mouth and if he keeps doing it take points. But do if after the round is over.

[Bigcat]

ON THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.........

I dont actually see anything more that can be done practically other than Warnings , and the odd point deduction for the more obvious deliberate spit. The safety issue is more than everything else , i'd rather see a man hold a round up for a second or two than lose his life because he was too desparate to lose the round by a point..

It is a very hard one to find a great answer to.

[Marnoff]

The problem with putting it back in without it being washed off is debris. If small stones or whatever is on the canvas get on the mouthpiece and the person is punched, that can open cuts on the gums, etc..

[Drusome]

The problem with putting it back in without it being washed off is debris. If small stones or whatever is on the canvas get on the mouthpiece and the person is punched, that can open cuts on the gums, etc..

The ref can just carry spare ones for each fighter (in plastic in his pocket) then like he suggested. Why not?

[nervousxtian]

I think they handle it just fine the way it is.

It's hard to say when someone spits it out intentionally or not, you can't always tell the motive of the guy spitting it out.

I do not advocate fighting without it. Very very very bad idea.

[PolishPummler]

Make him fight without it.

[Marnoff]

The ref can just carry spare ones for each fighter (in plastic in his pocket) then like he suggested. Why not?

Sure, that would be fine with me, but then still the referee's hands are generally unclean from wiping dirt from the fighter's gloves after they touch the canvas, separating the fighters, etc.. Either way there should be immediate and severe penalties for any intentional spitting out of the mouthpiece.

[Lex]

The purpose of a mouthpiece is to keep the jaw aligned, minimize damage to teeth and soft tissue in the mouth.

A custom mouthpiece will accomplish these most effectively but any mouthpiece has its limits.

Once the jaw begins to swell it loses sensation. It becomes more difficult for the fighter to clamp down. And since a custom mouthpiece is specifically designed to fit an unswollen jaw with normal top to bottom fit, it becomes less and less effective once jaw damage starts.

It's best to let the ref make the call. He's in the best position to decide whether the mouthpiece is being deliberately spit out or whether it's simply being knocked out.

I'm more concerned about inconsistencies in warnings and penalties for obvious fouls that shouldn't be tolerated under any circumstances, such as using elbows and forearms. It can be difficult to say whether a head butt or low blow was accidental, but elbows and forearms are virtually always deliberate and clearly seen. PBF seldom gets called down for this trick. Neither were Trinidad or Hopkins.

[the_what]

I dont believe a fighter should be allowed to fight without a mouthpiece. That is very dangerous. I like the system the way it is now. Warning. And then point deductions.

[Darthmage]

to recover from a shot...just like corrales did against castillo...

RIP diego...

Miranda did it against Pavlik too, it didn't help him at all.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

The same thing as every other foul. Warn, and escalate there after.

[PATSYS]

this pisses me off when fighters do this. its blatant cheating, everyone knows it. sometimes it gets knocked out. but not when the take it out of their mouth

if they spit it out, the ref should just put it in without washing it off. or he should carry a spare one for both fighters.

If it is caused by a punch, it has to be placed back in.

But if it is intentionally spit out, then let the fight go. It is only when the round ends that the fighter wil be allowed to pick it up and place back again.