now i really want to see Rashad Evans fight Fedor Emelianenko

[Mike W]

Rashad Evans was the underdog against Forrest Griffen and just like i had expected, he won the title.

Now it looks like being the UFC HW champion will be easier for Rashad. Nogueira lost to Frank Mir.

I want to see Fedor fight Rashad Evans next after (or if) Fedor gets past Andrei Arlovski. Rashad Evans would beat Fedor and be the undisputed MMA Heavweight champion of the world.

[Rattler]

Evans isn't going to beat Fedor at this point. He doesn't have the ability to last on the ground with Fedor, who could & would get Rashad on his back.

He'd have to catch Fedor the same way he did Liddell for this upset to happen.

He's not ready for it yet.

[Dostoevsky]

Evans handspeed and power could pose some problems to Fedor as would his wrestling backround.

[Polymath]

Evans handspeed and power could pose some problems to Fedor as would his wrestling backround.

:patsch

Mark Coleman.


'Wrestling background' :rofl

[Mike W]

Evans isn't going to beat Fedor at this point. He doesn't have the ability to last on the ground with Fedor, who could & would get Rashad on his back.

He'd have to catch Fedor the same way he did Liddell for this upset to happen.

He's not ready for it yet.

Rashad is always ready to fight and he does enough to win. He was the underdog many times. He wasn't even suppose to win the Ultimate Fighter season 2 and he won it.

Rashad Evans is like Kevin Randleman but he has much better striking and more endurance. Randleman almost beat Fedor when they fought

[Dostoevsky]

:patsch

Mark Coleman.



40 year old Coleman coming of 10 month Layoff got Fedors back.

[Rattler]

Rashad is always ready to fight and he does enough to win. He was the underdog many times. He wasn't even suppose to win the Ultimate Fighter season 2 and he won it.

Rashad Evans is like Kevin Randleman but he has much better striking and more endurance. Randleman almost beat Fedor when they fought

Fedor is always ready to fight and he does MORE than enough to win... even with everyone gunning for him, he still comes out on top.

Randleman used his strength to throw Fedor around... Evans would be undersized against Fedor. Evans has fought at HW before, and he was sluggish at a higher weight. At his best, he'd be 30 pounds underweight going against Emelianenko.

He could do to Fedor what Randleman did - which is basically nothing but a big suplex. If Evans gets on the ground with Fedor, he'll get subbed.

[Rattler]

40 year old Coleman coming of 10 month Layoff got Fedors back.

Randleman got Fedors back... where did it get them?

[québecwarrior]

:lol::lol::lol:this thread is serious?

[Polymath]

40 year old Coleman coming of 10 month Layoff got Fedors back.


You're officially retarded. Mark Coleman at 50 is a better wrestler than Rashad Evans. 'Wrestling background' :lol:


I miss your 'Fedor to fight Joe Rogan'! And 'Fedor to fight a girl!' threads. You should restart them, they were the Yin to MikeW's more Yang brand of juvenile autism.

[Mike W]

Fedor is always ready to fight and he does MORE than enough to win... even with everyone gunning for him, he still comes out on top.

Randleman used his strength to throw Fedor around... Evans would be undersized against Fedor. Evans has fought at HW before, and he was sluggish at a higher weight. At his best, he'd be 30 pounds underweight going against Emelianenko.

He could do to Fedor what Randleman did - which is basically nothing but a big suplex. If Evans gets on the ground with Fedor, he'll get subbed.

i don't think Rashad is underweight at HW. I remember he was once weighed in at 227 or something like that during TUF season 2. He normally was a small HW, but he'd be quicker than the bigger guys.

Rashad Evans is a tough fighter to beat, and i think he has the best chance to beat Fedor

[scurlaruntings]

40 year old Coleman coming of 10 month Layoff got Fedors back.Made absolutely no diffrence though did it. What exactly was Coleman going to do when he got there? RNC? Coleman was a great collegiate wrestler but much like the rest of Hammerhouse all he had was a solid GnP and brutal strength. Both times Coleman got savagely beaten up.

[québecwarrior]

Made absolutely no diffrence though did it. What exactly was Coleman going to do when he got there? RNC? Coleman was a great collegiate wrestler but much like the rest of Hammerhouse all he had was a solid GnP and brutal strength. Both times Coleman got savagely beaten up.
:lol:
funny but true

[Rattler]

i don't think Rashad is underweight at HW. I remember he was once weighed in at 227 or something like that during TUF season 2. He normally was a small HW, but he'd be quicker than the bigger guys.

Rashad Evans is a tough fighter to beat, and i think he has the best chance to beat Fedor

Fedor is a natural HW, with the strength that comes with it. Rashad would be fighting up in weight, which is dangerous, especially with a veteran champion who knows how to deal with anything.

I respect Evans a great deal... in a few years, he's turned himself into a great fighter, but Fedor is too much bite to chew.

[Rattler]

:lol::lol::lol:this thread is serious?

Mike W is always serious.

[Dostoevsky]

You're officially retarded. Mark Coleman at 50 is a better wrestler than Rashad Evans. 'Wrestling background' :lol:


I miss your 'Fedor to fight Joe Rogan'! And 'Fedor to fight a girl!' threads. You should restart them, they were the Yin to MikeW's more Yang brand of juvenile autism.

Rogan and a girl would be the same level of competition Fedor had been fighting for about a year and half until Sylvia you fucking tard. Fedor was acting like a little prick fraud for about a year. Whether your Fedor assmunching self wants to admit that or not.

[scurlaruntings]

Rogan and a girl would be the same level of competition Fedor had been fighting for about a year and half until Sylvia you fucking tard. Fedor was acting like a little prick fraud for about a year. Whether your Fedor assmunching self wants to admit that or not.This is just absolute rubbish. Fedor is soooo much better than all his competition that he makes it look easy. Who exactly was he acting like a prick against? Lets look at his comp. Tim Sylvia former UFC heavy champ. Wiped out in a round and completely dominated. Hong Man Choi. HUGE K1 striker. Name me any other fighter who could pull an armbar out of nowhere after getting your face pounded by a guy who was well over 100lbs heavier and a foot taller.
Matt Lindland standout wrestler and UFC vet. Fedors first real gimme in years. Then Mark Hunt who nearly had Fedor subbed with a deep Kimura only to be subbed moments later himself. Mark Coleman one sided beating of which the only tactic Coleman could employ was to shoot for a leg. Everytime he got mounted and pummelled until he eventually succumbed to an armbar. Please explain again "HOW" Fedor was acting like a prick.

[Dostoevsky]

Just fannying around not arranging fights with legitimate opponents, thats how he was acting like a fraud. Just playing about. HMC is NOT a legitimate opponent. No way.

And no matter how you put it, Lindland is a natural Middleweight with NO business fighting any heavyweight.

As for the Hunt almost getting that Kimura, that says more about Fedor than it does Hunt. :nod

[Sardu]

I would rather see Evans and Rampage first. Rampage had called Rashad an "average fighter" awhile back so there could be some animosity between the two men at this point in time. Not to mention it is also an awesome matchup and would be great for the fans.

[Polymath]

Just fannying around not arranging fights with legitimate opponents, thats how he was acting like a fraud. Just playing about. HMC is NOT a legitimate opponent. No way.

And no matter how you put it, Lindland is a natural Middleweight with NO business fighting any heavyweight.

As for the Hunt almost getting that Kimura, that says more about Fedor than it does Hunt. :nod

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[scurlaruntings]

Just fannying around not arranging fights with legitimate opponents, thats how he was acting like a fraud. Just playing about. HMC is NOT a legitimate opponent. No way.

And no matter how you put it, Lindland is a natural Middleweight with NO business fighting any heavyweight.

As for the Hunt almost getting that Kimura, that says more about Fedor than it does Hunt. :nodThats simply rubbish. Its clear you hate Fedor. Thus this isnt even worth a debate.

[Dostoevsky]

Thats simply rubbish. Its clear you hate Fedor. Thus this isnt even worth a debate.

It's not worth a debate because you can't refute my points, you know what I say to be true. I'm not a 'hater' who hates fighters for no reason, I 'hate'(more like dislike, hate is too stronger a word) Fedor because he dicked around fighing complete bums and unworthy compeitition instead of fighting the best like what a champion should do. What as worse is his moronic nuthuggers making excuses for his sorry ass.

No other fighter in the world would still have received praise like Fedor did had they faced the same sort of compeition and ran away not facing any real threats.

[Polymath]

It's not worth a debate because you can't refute my points, you know what I say to be true. I'm not a 'hater' who hates fighters for no reason, I 'hate'(more like dislike, hate is too stronger a word) Fedor because he dicked around fighing complete bums and unworthy compeitition instead of fighting the best like what a champion should do. What as worse is his moronic nuthuggers making excuses for his sorry ass.

No other fighter in the world would still have received praise like Fedor did had they faced the same sort of compeition and ran away not facing any real threats.

Tell us about how Rashad Evans handspeed would give him a good shot at Fedor again :rofl


You could tell everyone about how Wladimir Klitschko would 'easliy' beat George Foreman as well. That was why you changed from your Iron Duke account right? That really was an ATG embarrassing thread :lol:

[Dostoevsky]

You could tell everyone about how Wladimir Klitschko would 'easliy' beat George Foreman as well. That was why you changed from your Iron Duke account right? That really was an ATG embarrassing thread :lol:

I never made a thread saying Wlad would beat Foreman, not as if thats an embarrising statement to make anyway considering Foremans atrocious amateurish skillset and non existant defence.

I was banned as Iron Duke, I didn't change my username.

[Polymath]

i never made a thread saying wlad would beat foreman, not as if thats an embarrisingly statement to make anyway considering foremans atrocious amateurish skillset and non existant defence.

I was banned as iron duke, i didn't change my username.

'fedor to fight gay cowboy!!!'

[Polymath]

I never made a thread saying Wlad would beat Foreman, not as if thats an embarrising statement to make anyway considering Foremans atrocious amateurish skillset and non existant defence.


Ok you know nothing about MMA or boxing, well done.

[Dostoevsky]

Ok you know nothing about MMA or boxing, well done.

Great comeback, clearly can't make a proper point because Foremans terrible terrible skills, slow movement and terrible defence would cause him major issues against Wlad's huge size, technical boxing ability and power. Wlads downside would be his weak chin but he has good defence from getting hit nowadays thanks to Steward. He would give young Foreman fits.

Naturally you being a monumental simpleton won't or can't debate these issues and will respond with a pathetic one liner.

[Dostoevsky]

'fedor to fight gay cowboy!!!'

Err so what? That was clearly a tongue in cheek thread poking fun at the level of competition Fedor had been fighting or been proposed to fight.
I know you are mentally deficient and have some sort of retardation but even a trained monkey would be able to tell that that thread was not serious.

[boxingcar]

wow ! Dostoevsky...I never knew you were that type of "fan"...
I originally thought you were joking yesterday when you said:

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But based on what i'm reading now...i guess you're just as serious as Mike W is with this thread.

[Dostoevsky]

wow ! Dostoevsky...I never knew you were that type of "fan"...
I originally thought you were joking yesterday when you said:

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But based on what i'm reading now...i guess you're just as serious as Mike W is with this thread.

I was joking with those comments. I was super pissed off Wand and Nog lost though. Especially Nog.

[Polymath]

wow ! Dostoevsky...I never knew you were that type of "fan"...
I originally thought you were joking yesterday when you said:

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But based on what i'm reading now...i guess you're just as serious as Mike W is with this thread.

Remember the fuckwit "Iron Duke" who used to post those autistic, frothing at the mouth 'FEdor is ducking [insert anyone]" threads every day? Its the same person.

edit: here's a classic, 'Fedor ducking Pedro Rizzo' [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Polymath]

Here's a Fedor is ducking Sylvia thread :rofl

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[Dostoevsky]

Here's a Fedor is ducking Sylvia thread :rofl

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I wasn't saying Fedor was ducking Sylvia you monumental imbecile. I was quoting Sylvia calling Fedor a pussy and not fighting top competition, which he wasn't at that time. So you can shut the fuck up with that one.

[Polymath]

I wasn't saying Fedor was ducking Sylvia you monumental imbecile.

I think you were.

[scurlaruntings]

It's not worth a debate because you can't refute my points, you know what I say to be true. I'm not a 'hater' who hates fighters for no reason, I 'hate'(more like dislike, hate is too stronger a word) Fedor because he dicked around fighing complete bums and unworthy compeitition instead of fighting the best like what a champion should do. What as worse is his moronic nuthuggers making excuses for his sorry ass.

No other fighter in the world would still have received praise like Fedor did had they faced the same sort of compeition and ran away not facing any real threats.If your fishing for a debate your going the entirely wrong way about it. Now let me guess 7ft 2 350lbs Choi is bum? Coleman is a bum? Lindland is a bum? Sylvia is a bum? See how stupid you sound.:roll:

[Dostoevsky]

If your fishing for a debate your going the entirely wrong way about it. Now let me guess 7ft 2 350lbs Choi is bum? Coleman is a bum? Lindland is a bum? Sylvia is a bum? See how stupid you sound.:roll:

Choi is a bum. The Coleman of today is well past it. Lindland is a great middleweight, at HW, he's nothing. Sylvia's not a bum and I didn't claim he was.

[Polymath]

Choi is a bum. The Coleman of today is well past it. Lindland is a great middleweight, at HW, he's nothing. Sylvia's not a bum and I didn't claim he was.


You're a bum poster, no offense.

[Dostoevsky]

You're a bum poster, no offense.

Your mother gets bummed on the 4 poster bed, no offense.

[Polymath]

DO you still think FEdor was ducking Pedro Rizzo?

[Polymath]

Your mother gets bummed on the 4 poster bed, no offense.

Relax wee man.

[Dostoevsky]

Well according to the source I was quoting, M1 (which is essentially Fedors management team) had flat out rejected a proposal by Pedro to fight Fedor so at the time it wasn't a completley wrong question to pose or to ponder.

Fedor is very picky with opponents, as seen by his team and himself constant messing about doing sweet-f all for months on end.
After the monumental backlash against Fedor with journalists questioning his choices of opponents he has hopefully woken up and started to sort things out again. Thankfully lots of people started to call him out on his antics before he signed the Sylvia fight, if they hadn't he'd be going down the same route fighting bums and HMC 2 or something like that. Something which his stupid nuthuggers like yourself would bizarrely be content about.

[Polymath]

So you're answer is yes, you think Fedor ducked Pedro Rizzo in 2008?

[Dostoevsky]

No not necessarily, at the time according to the source, M1 had flat out rejected a proposal by Rizzo to fight Fedor.

So at the time it was not an unfair question to pose to everyone what the hell Fedor was playing about at and why was he rejecting offers of fights? When a fighter asks you to fight them or proposes a possible fight, as Rizzo had done to Fedor and Fedor and his management rejected that offer could that not be construed as 'ducking'.

But hey, I was just throwing that question out there. At the time Fedor and his team were acting like flat out frauds not fighting anybody. It's a good thing everyone in the press starting to question him about it obviously pissing him off to some degree and pushing him towards fights that we now want to see.

[boxingcar]

I was joking with those comments. I was super pissed off Wand and Nog lost though. Especially Nog.
nah nah nah...that shit was genuine. From the heart. and still is..

Today , you even write:


I'm not a 'hater' who hates fighters for no reason, I 'hate'(more like dislike, hate is too stronger a word) Fedor because he dicked around fighing complete bums and unworthy compeitition instead of fighting the best like what a champion should do. What as worse is his moronic nuthuggers making excuses for his sorry ass.

No other fighter in the world would still have received praise like Fedor did had they faced the same sort of compeition and ran away not facing any real threats.

First of all.."why" do you "hate" fighters to begin with ?.. :lol:
(ok i admit it , there's a few guys i don't like in this sport..) but it seems like you're taking this to a certain extreme.

Yesterday , you wanted to see wand win...it didn't happened , then Nogueira lost (and you were dreading this...you wanted him to win but Mir owned him) , you were quite pissed about the whole situation...Man , it's just a fucking sport , Wanderlei already had his moments of glory..all of this is behind him now..Same goes for Nogueira...the guy hasn't been the same for a few years now...

Also , your remark about Hunt vs Fedor...(hunt almost pulling a kimura ? )..
I don't know if it tells more about fedor than Hunt (like you said) but from my point of view , it seems like this observation tells more about you and your knowledge of the sport , in general...

Hunt wasn't gonna pull shit...(and that's also why fedor seemed almost abnormally calm at that moment..even though Hunt was trying to submit him at the same time )

Also , we could use this argument with Fujita too...fedor almost got koed...guess it tells more about him than fujita doesn't it ? were you at the time proclaiming that fed would start losing all his other fights ?...

Also , how can a fan of the sport say that fedor was running away from competition ? Was it fedor's fault if dana & co wanted him to sign a strict contract ? ...You know how it works right ?

1 - no outside competition
2 - you don't leave as long as you're not losing
3 - not allowed to fight in any different sports
4 - no publicity without their permission..etc...etc..

you'd rather see him as dana's lap dog ? ( and getting kicked out as soon as they're tired of him , like they did for werdum , sobral and countless others)

And you say Sylvia was his only legit competition ?

Rogan and a girl would be the same level of competition Fedor had been fighting for about a year and half until Sylvia.

Are you saying this because Nog lost yesterday night ? is the pill still hard to swallow ?...or because sylvia was from the ufc ? is this some fanboy talking or a fan of the sport ?...

What does that tell about Hong man choi though ?...:rofl you said it yourself.." until sylvia"...
He took less time finishing sylvia than he did HMC ! Not even arlovski or Mir were able to finish sylvia that fast..

Next he's fighting arlovski !
he wouldn't be able to if he'd be forced to fight or dana..
and he certainly wouldn't have the opportunity to fight Barnett ...( dana didn't want Josh to fight for the ufc and told him to go somewhere else )..

What competition is he missing right now ?
Kongo ? (he fought a K1 champ in mark hunt , Kongo never was able to achieve that )
Nog ? (past prime ...already defeated him in his prime)
Sylvia (already did)
Werdum ? (no longer at the ufc , soon will fight at affliction)
Arlovski ? (soon...)
Barnett ? (soon...if he beats arlovski of course)
Mir ? ( got nothing to offer in the striking or sub department , not fast enough , Arlovski will provide that soon...congrats for Mir's win vs nog but it was as relevant as Briggs beating Foreman in 97 )....It would've been a shock in 2003...but he did it in 2008 and nog should be retired )

Couture ? Barnett already beat his ass (when he was still in his prime)..providing he beats arlovski..we'll soon get the chance to see what happens vs Josh too.

Lesnar ? He eats wrestlers for breakfast...Lesnar has nothing to offer apart from brute strength. anything he can do , fedor will do better. what he did to herring was nothing compared to the mauling fedor inflicted on heath's ass...

Surprisingly enough Couture (with his smaller frame ) was at one point even dominating Lesnar (who's physically much bigger & stronger)..Couture ended up losing like he did against Liddell..(which was a rather shitty ending btw)

Granted , it's not like Zulu was any serious competition...but that was a fucking nye superfight...NOT for the belt. ..

Lindland ? when he fought fedor..he fought as a HW...He never complained , he accepted the challenge..(just like he did vs Jackson as a LHW...You know...that fight he lost by split decision)..A silver olympic medalist in greco...he was more than legit competition...

To conclude this message..
i'll just say that i'm personally very excited about fed vs arlovski...
and i hope Mir will find a way to submit Lesnar again..
and if fed beats arlvoski...Barnett vs fed will be monumental for sure!

and these fights can't happen in the ufc right now..

Also K1 dynamite is gonna be awesome !

[Tyga]

How about we wait and see if Rashad can successfully defend his title first? But really, Rashad is not ready to fight Fedor.

[Blacc Jesus]

:rofl:rofl:rofl