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Permy
12-28-2008, 11:19 PM
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Ali Vs Wladimir Klitschko ?

i see ali dominating the rounds by hitting and moving , not letting Wlad get anywere near him! and maybe Ali TKO in the later rounds!

Ali Vs Viatili Klitschko ?

Muhammad ali would again box his way to victory or be more ruthless against his stationary robotic opponent ! By going in more with his punches and not letting of steam once he puts in a lead right !

The Klitschko's are effective in todays heavyweight scene but thats it !
They wouldn't survive 2 rounds given 20 years before and so on !

cuchulain
12-29-2008, 12:47 AM
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Ali Vs Wladimir Klitschko ?

i see ali dominating the rounds by hitting and moving , not letting Wlad get anywere near him! and maybe Ali TKO in the later rounds!

Ali Vs Viatili Klitschko ?

Muhammad ali would again box his way to victory or be more ruthless against his stationary robotic opponent ! By going in more with his punches and not letting of steam once he puts in a lead right !

The Klitschko's are effective in todays heavyweight scene but thats it !
They wouldn't survive 2 rounds given 20 years before and so on !



Re: Muhammad Ali Vs. The Klitschko Brothers ?

Here, i would have to go with the Klitschko brothers, because great as Ali was, it just wouldn't be fair tossing him in against two big lads like that.


Now one at a time, it's a different story.

i think he can eek out a victory over either one of them.




The Klitschko's are effective in todays heavyweight scene but thats it !
They wouldn't survive 2 rounds given 20 years before and so on


On this point, you need to give your head a shake.

While Vitali doesn't come close to making my top ten Heavywt list, Head-to head, IMO, there aren't more than half a dozen fighters in history who would prevail over a healthy, uninjured, prime Vit Klit.

Ramon Rojo
12-29-2008, 12:59 AM
Ali by UD win against both of them.

The Predator
12-29-2008, 02:03 AM
This is easy. These two brothers are stiff and very easy to read in their boxing and to put them in the same ring with the greatest of all time would be the biggest mistake that ever happened in boxing. They would not stand a chance against his fast hands, they would not land a punch on him cause faster and better men tried that and couldnīt do it. Ali would destroy them and I canīt see anyone of them survive three rounds.
Iīm talking about Ali from the 70īs, if they fought the sharp Ali from the 60`s, well do I need to say anymore, he was even faster and sharper during that time.
Perhaps they should try to fight him at the same time and even bring in Valuev to make the ring smaller, but I doubt that would help:p.
All the best my friends
The predator

aj415
12-29-2008, 02:06 AM
2 vs 1 the Klitchko's might get him
:smoke

True Writer
12-29-2008, 05:16 AM
I think Vitali would have a great chance, don't forget that Ali was often bigger than his opponents, so he could mess around but this would not be the case here.

MrSmall
12-29-2008, 05:38 AM
idiot's reply:

"Vitali makes him quit, Wlad KO's him"

spittle8
12-29-2008, 06:04 AM
Post ban Ali might play cute with little men like Bonavena and Frazier, but he can't take the Klits greatest hits all day. He can't hurt Vitali, and I don't think he can really move forward against either without getting face-pummeled. If he runs around the ring, he's gotta lose on points, 'cause this time his arms aren't long enough to reach out and touch someone.

If either brother got him against the ropes, I can see them unleashing Hell. Once Wlad gets it in his head that Ali can't hurt him too bad, he can break through that shell and if he lands a flush headshot, Ali is in trouble.

Ali might be a greater boxer, but I just don't think this would be his match. Then again, I can't believe he beat Foreman...

Mendoza
12-29-2008, 06:10 AM
Ali Vs Wladimir Klitschko ?

i see ali dominating the rounds by hitting and moving , not letting Wlad get anywere near him! and maybe Ali TKO in the later rounds!

Ali Vs Viatili Klitschko ?

Muhammad ali would again box his way to victory or be more ruthless against his stationary robotic opponent ! By going in more with his punches and not letting of steam once he puts in a lead right !

The Klitschko's are effective in todays heavyweight scene but thats it !
They wouldn't survive 2 rounds given 20 years before and so on !

Wouldn't survive 2 rounds? This is silly. Ali would need to be in his prime and at his best to win. I think Vitali takes Ali in the 1970's.

bigjake
12-29-2008, 12:09 PM
idiot's reply:

"Vitali makes him quit, Wlad KO's him"

what the hell are you smoking,ali beats either of these guys

jyuza
10-01-2011, 10:07 AM
Wanted to see if I was the only one thinking Ali would destroy the brothers after reading some non sens on the general forum.

Jorodz
10-01-2011, 10:11 AM
Wanted to see if I was the only one thinking Ali would destroy the brothers after reading some non sens on the general forum.

I don't think he destroys either. beats? yes. but they are DAMN good at what they do and use their physical gifts very, very well. ali is in for a long night with both

frankenfrank
10-01-2011, 10:21 AM
Either Klitschko beats any version of Ali at his own game ..
D quick & vulnerable Ali runs for his life in reverse as usual but still gets outscored in the very few occasions he might be in range and even stopped if he doesn't manage to pull back quick enough , neither Klitschko hits as hard as Henry Cooper or Doug Jones after all ..
D slower stronger Ali gets manhandled on d inside and beaten in the outside prior to it , neither Klitschko is strong as Ken Norton after all ..

Stevie G
10-01-2011, 12:10 PM
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Ali Vs Wladimir Klitschko ?

i see ali dominating the rounds by hitting and moving , not letting Wlad get anywere near him! and maybe Ali TKO in the later rounds!

Ali Vs Viatili Klitschko ?

Muhammad ali would again box his way to victory or be more ruthless against his stationary robotic opponent ! By going in more with his punches and not letting of steam once he puts in a lead right !

The Klitschko's are effective in todays heavyweight scene but thats it !
They wouldn't survive 2 rounds given 20 years before and so on !
Muhammad takes it,with both brothers,by a very clear decision or tko. He would be too fast,and too clever. And his chin would take Vitali and Wladimir's best.

TheGreatA
10-01-2011, 12:25 PM
I think cuts would be Vitali's downfall against Ali. Wladimir would get hit a lot more than he usually does against Ali while not connecting with his own punches. That would be a difficult scenario for him to deal with I think.

jyuza
10-01-2011, 12:25 PM
The classic section changed a lot. That's for sure.
Or may be I am living too much on the past.

Stevie G
10-01-2011, 12:31 PM
Wouldn't survive 2 rounds? This is silly. Ali would need to be in his prime and at his best to win. I think Vitali takes Ali in the 1970's.
Maybe after 1976 ! Certainly not before.

Azzer85
10-01-2011, 01:27 PM
Either Klitschko beats any version of Ali at his own game ..
D quick & vulnerable Ali runs for his life in reverse as usual but still gets outscored in the very few occasions he might be in range and even stopped if he doesn't manage to pull back quick enough , neither Klitschko hits as hard as Henry Cooper or Doug Jones after all ..
D slower stronger Ali gets manhandled on d inside and beaten in the outside prior to it , neither Klitschko is strong as Ken Norton after all ..

Yeah man Klits definitely hit hard, Just like Wladmir Kod Haye and Vitali Kod Byrd and they would Ko the glass jawed Ali.

Foreman/Liston couldnt manhandle Ali but somehow these two Klit turds will do it.

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, the klits wont be able to hit, what their eyes cant see :hi:

bigjake
10-01-2011, 02:31 PM
idiot's reply:

"Vitali makes him quit, Wlad KO's him"

yea like that would happen,i see ali toying with them at times.

frankenfrank
10-01-2011, 04:08 PM
Yeah man Klits definitely hit hard, Just like Wladmir Kod Haye and Vitali Kod Byrd and they would Ko the glass jawed Ali.

Foreman/Liston couldnt manhandle Ali but somehow these two Klit turds will do it.

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, the klits wont be able to hit, what their eyes cant see :hi:
Haye unlike Ali had d power&speed combination 2 threaten Wladimir , not 2 mention Wladimir is 35 , not in his prime anymore and Haye fights nothing like Ali . Haye is a quick HW too , quicker than mid 70s Ali whom was around d pick of his durability . D 60s Ali was about as quick as Haye , but not durable and not powerful enough either .
Ali might last d distance if he chose to backpedal for his dear life like he did almost every time , but he couldn't land anything this way against a Klitschko and d occasional jab will sometimes still find its mark on Ali's face after Ali tires from running sideways and reverse ..
And Ali could never outmuscle some1 like either Klitschko .
Like I typed : either Klitschko could beat Ali in his own game .
Fly like a butterfly sting like a b could only work against Sonny Liston and his likes , not against head far above , arms reach everywhere , stay away hit from far robots . Ali was only a more athletic version of Wladimir , due to him being smaller , but because of this reason he was also weaker , had less range and needed that athleticism in first place . Against a Klitschko it doesn't work . Ali was not as evasive as Chris Byrd , even in d 60s , Douglas Jones and Henry Cooper proved it . And as evasive as Chris Byrd was , it didn't work that well for him vs. Wladimir , nor it would have worked well for Haye against a prime Vitali .

frankenfrank
10-01-2011, 04:11 PM
yea like that would happen,i see ali toying with them at times.
He might , like Tucker toyed with Tyson , Toney toyed with Jones and Ortiz toyed Mayweather . :yep

Azzer85
10-01-2011, 06:01 PM
He might , like Tucker toyed with Tyson , Toney toyed with Jones and Ortiz toyed Mayweather . :yep

No hell toy with them like he toyed with Cleveland Williams, Floyd Patterson and Earnier Terrell.

frankenfrank
10-01-2011, 06:31 PM
No hell toy with them like he toyed with Cleveland Williams, Floyd Patterson and Earnier Terrell.
Sure , Wlad = Paterson , Vitali = Terrell
And Valuev = Cleveland Williams , wait , Valuev wished 2b as great as Williams was , getting KOd so many times and all ..

Azzer85
10-01-2011, 06:37 PM
Sure , Wlad = Paterson , Vitali = Terrell
And Valuev = Cleveland Williams , wait , Valuev wished 2b as great as Williams was , getting KOd so many times and all ..

50 Year old Holyfield beat Valuev
Vitali And Wladmir ducked Valuev, Toney, Ruiz
Ali ducked....?

:hi:

frankenfrank
10-01-2011, 06:44 PM
50 Year old Holyfield beat Valuev
Vitali And Wladmir ducked Valuev, Toney, Ruiz
Ali ducked....?

:hi:
50 year old Holyfield gave Ibragimov a tuf fite 2 ! what can i say , holyfield's a g.

and really ? vitali and wlad ducked valuev ? d more popular belief is d opposite , no ? i however don't blame any1 except of Don King in the prevention of d biggest hw fite in history .

Azzer85
10-01-2011, 06:54 PM
50 year old Holyfield gave Ibragimov a tuf fite 2 ! what can i say , holyfield's a g.

and really ? vitali and wlad ducked valuev ? d more popular belief is d opposite , no ? i however don't blame any1 except of Don King in the prevention of d biggest hw fite in history .

They could have fought him for a number of years but didnt, and theres 2 of them as well.
Ali faced anyone and everyone

LA IRISHMAN
10-01-2011, 07:08 PM
Ali would have trouble with either of the brothers. They are big clumsey guys that are not being challenged today. Their fights are cheery picked and circus shows.

Joe E
10-01-2011, 07:27 PM
Here, i would have to go with the Klitschko brothers, because great as Ali was, it just wouldn't be fair tossing him in against two big lads like that.


Now one at a time, it's a different story.

i think he can eek out a victory over either one of them.






On this point, you need to give your head a shake.

While Vitali doesn't come close to making my top ten Heavywt list, Head-to head, IMO, there aren't more than half a dozen fighters in history who would prevail over a healthy, uninjured, prime Vit Klit.Havin at the Whiskey are ya, Cuch?

frankenfrank
10-01-2011, 07:28 PM
They could have fought him for a number of years but didnt, and theres 2 of them as well.
Ali faced anyone and everyone
they also ducked 50 years old holyfield after seeing what he did 2 ibragimov & valubum . they got so scared .

Azzer85
10-01-2011, 07:45 PM
they also ducked 50 years old holyfield after seeing what he did 2 ibragimov & valubum . they got so scared .

They ducked both Valuev AND Holyfield.

And Tua, Ruiz, Toney

And once again i ask you, who did Ali duck?

groove
10-01-2011, 07:53 PM
Timber!

frankenfrank
10-01-2011, 07:56 PM
They ducked both Valuev AND Holyfield.

And Tua, Ruiz, Toney

And once again i ask you, who did Ali duck?
Al Jones , Ron Stander , Bob Cleroux , George Chuvalo for a rubber match , Jose Luis Garcia , Douglas Jones for a rematch , i'd say henry cooper for a rubber match 2 , but he would have been so old by then , plus he'd always cut against d backpedalling wonder with the glove cutter in his corner ..

frankenfrank
10-01-2011, 08:00 PM
ali also ducked a 4th fight with Norton , and rematches with foreman , young & shavers . yet he found d time 4 dunn , bugner , folley (old) and d atg cleveland williams .


in shape and motivated yamplier azcuy & henry akiwande would have given ali more problems than what bitches realize :deal
and i guess they'd been motivated 4 facing d "gratest of all times"

gentleman jim
10-12-2011, 02:59 PM
I too pick Ali in these matchups but it might be a little tougher than many think it would be. Wlad and Vitali are good big heavyweights...Not great mind you but good in thier own right and big...The biggest that Ali has ever met. Both can box and have good ring generalship. I liken these matchups to Ali/Terrell and Ali/Bugner. Ali was facing a bigger opponent in both fights and used his speed to offset any advantage in size. In Bugner I Ali became the stalker when it was apparent that Joe could dance just as good as Ali could so Ali used his handspeed and underrated power to offset Bugners' youth and athleticism...Precisely what he would do against the K brothers. Ali's hand speed would make the difference here as he would have to get inside at times to do any damage before getting back out. As the fight wears on he would frustrate each brother with this tactic. I see a late stoppage against Wlad and a decision against Vitali. The K brothers are good....but not THAT good!

frankenfrank
10-12-2011, 03:05 PM
I think Vitali would have a great chance, don't forget that Ali was often bigger than his opponents, so he could mess around but this would not be the case here.
Should have been Ali vs Carl Williams and d answer : Carl Williams wins .
The Klitschkos would have beaten him more decisively than Carl Williams , so simple .

The Mongoose
10-12-2011, 03:07 PM
They ducked both Valuev AND Holyfield.

And Tua, Ruiz, Toney

And once again i ask you, who did Ali duck?

:nut Its not a duck if you fought and beat the guys who kicked their asses (Haye, Sultan, Chageav, Byrd, and Peter). Vitali ducked a Byrd rematch,that's it. And you don't fucking mention Byrd...:patsch

Ali would still beat the K-brothers.