View Full Version : Sherdog's new HW (top 10 ranking)..
boxingcar
12-30-2008, 01:28 PM
personally , i have no problems with this one...seems about right...
1 fedor
2 arlovski
3 Barnett
4 Mir
5 Nogueira
6 Lesnar
7 Couture
8 Sylvia
9 Rothwell
10 Overeem
(although , i'd be tempted to add Kharitonov in there too but.. oh well...)
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Griip
12-30-2008, 01:56 PM
A lot better than last one. I have no idea what the fuck Couture is doing there though. And Lesnar? Why? Well, if Couture is ranked nr 7 it does make sense. But he shouldn't be there. And beating Herring is not at all anything that proves he deserves to be in top 10.
Sylvia on 8th? Redicilous. Arlovski on SECOND fucking place without beating a single top fighter? This is even more bullshit than what's coming out of Dana Whites mouth on regular basis.
But oh well, hard to make it "correct" when there's different organizations that won't cooperate with eachother.
scurlaruntings
12-30-2008, 02:41 PM
Ok why is Overeem in the top 10? And Andei in 2nd place? On the basis of what exactly?
ufoalf
12-30-2008, 02:52 PM
I think Rothwell has move up since losing to Arlovski and beating Guillen? in these rankings :lol:
demzor
12-30-2008, 03:32 PM
that is an AWFUL list..
A lot better than last one. I have no idea what the fuck Couture is doing there though. And Lesnar? Why? Well, if Couture is ranked nr 7 it does make sense. But he shouldn't be there. And beating Herring is not at all anything that proves he deserves to be in top 10.
Sylvia on 8th? Redicilous. Arlovski on SECOND fucking place without beating a single top fighter? This is even more bullshit than what's coming out of Dana Whites mouth on regular basis.
But oh well, hard to make it "correct" when there's different organizations that won't cooperate with eachother.
Seems like you shit on half the guys in the list...who else would you have in there?
Here is my top 5:
1. Fedor
2. Barnett
3. Arlovski
4. Mir
5. Nog
boxingcar
12-30-2008, 08:15 PM
Here is my top 5:
1. Fedor
2. Barnett
3. Arlovski
4. Mir
5. Nog
Barnett at the 2nd spot is more like it...overall that's a good top 5 imo.
Where is Cro Cop when you need him?
personally , i have no problems with this one...seems about right...
1 fedor
2 arlovski
3 Barnett
4 Mir
5 Nogueira
6 Lesnar
7 Couture
8 Sylvia
9 Rothwell
10 Overeem
(although , i'd be tempted to add Kharitonov in there too but.. oh well...)
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I would include Kharitonov, Alexs, OR Gonzaga over Rothwell or Overeem.
rekcutnevets
12-30-2008, 10:29 PM
That list is shit. Arlovski 2nd! Based on what? Losing 2 out of 3 to Tim Sylvia. I realize Arlovski has a lot of talent, looks good as of late, and is on a decent win streak.
1. Fedor
2. Frank Mir- beat Lesnar and Nogueira
3. Brock Lesnar- beat Herring and Couture
4. Randy Couture- Looked far from washed up against Lesnar, and his victories preceding the Lesnar fight still mean something.
5. Andre Arlovski- I realize I just did a small rant, but he probably deserves this ranking. Arlovski defeated Werdum, and Werdum has defeated Gonzaga and Vera.
6. Nogueira- He did defeat Herring and Sylvia before losing to Mir.
7. Tim Sylvia- I know he's lost a couple recently, but I have the fighters that defeated him listed above him.
8. Gabriel Gonzaga
9. Barnett- Gonzaga defeated Cro Cop, that should count for something.
10. Sergei Kharitonov
radianttwilight
12-30-2008, 10:38 PM
The selection of fighters isn't THAT bad, it's the ordering that sucks.
QuestionKid7
12-31-2008, 12:56 AM
That list is shit. Arlovski 2nd! Based on what? Losing 2 out of 3 to Tim Sylvia. I realize Arlovski has a lot of talent, looks good as of late, and is on a decent win streak.
1. Fedor
2. Frank Mir- beat Lesnar and Nogueira
3. Brock Lesnar- beat Herring and Couture
4. Randy Couture- Looked far from washed up against Lesnar, and his victories preceding the Lesnar fight still mean something.
5. Andre Arlovski- I realize I just did a small rant, but he probably deserves this ranking. Arlovski defeated Werdum, and Werdum has defeated Gonzaga and Vera.
6. Nogueira- He did defeat Herring and Sylvia before losing to Mir.
7. Tim Sylvia- I know he's lost a couple recently, but I have the fighters that defeated him listed above him.
8. Gabriel Gonzaga
9. Barnett- Gonzaga defeated Cro Cop, that should count for something.
10. Sergei Kharitonov
Im a huge couture fan but he how in the hell is he 4.... He didn't fight for about a year and in when coming back he lost to Lesnar (not saying it wasn't and extremely hard fight).
1. Fedor
2. Mir
3. Barnett
4. Andre
5. Brock
6. Nog
7. Randy
8. Slyvia (Although a rematch of sylvia randy would be interesting as I think tim would have a good chance).
Im a huge couture fan but he how in the hell is he 4.... He didn't fight for about a year and in when coming back he lost to Lesnar (not saying it wasn't and extremely hard fight).
1. Fedor
2. Mir
3. Barnett
4. Andre
5. Brock
6. Nog
7. Randy
8. Slyvia (Although a rematch of sylvia randy would be interesting as I think tim would have a good chance).
Seems accurate to me but I would put Randy ahead of Nog, I really don't see Nog beating any top HW's any more.
QuestionKid7
12-31-2008, 04:27 AM
Seems accurate to me but I would put Randy ahead of Nog, I really don't see Nog beating any top HW's any more.
Nah you can't put randy ahead he will need another fight against a good opponent to pass nog.
MMAFIGHTER1
12-31-2008, 04:31 AM
Seems accurate to me but I would put Randy ahead of Nog, I really don't see Nog beating any top HW's any more.
why do you say that just cuz he lost 2 mir? it seems like ppl are not giving mir the credit he deserves 4 being the 1st 2 EVER finish nog. Nog is not even close 2 being done
The UFC HW division in extremely weak right now, I don't know why they are having so much trouble bringing in quality fighters. Lesanr KOing Couture like he did was pathetic, the guy was like 3-1. They can't get Fedor, fine, there are a whole bunch of other guys they can pursue.
Polymath
12-31-2008, 05:23 AM
why do you say that just cuz he lost 2 mir? it seems like ppl are not giving mir the credit he deserves 4 being the 1st 2 EVER finish nog. Nog is not even close 2 being done
He's shot to shit.
The same guy who took head kicks from a prime Cro Cop and came back to win doesn't get knocked out by lead uppercuts from Frank Mir.
scurlaruntings
12-31-2008, 05:27 AM
why do you say that just cuz he lost 2 mir? it seems like ppl are not giving mir the credit he deserves 4 being the 1st 2 EVER finish nog. Nog is not even close 2 being done:think Havent you seen any of Nogs fights over in PRIDE?
rekcutnevets
12-31-2008, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by QuestionKid7
Im a huge couture fan but he how in the hell is he 4.... He didn't fight for about a year and in when coming back he lost to Lesnar (not saying it wasn't and extremely hard fight).
1. Fedor
2. Mir
3. Barnett
4. Andre
5. Brock
6. Nog
7. Randy
8. Slyvia (Although a rematch of sylvia randy would be interesting as I think tim would have a good chance).
I don't see how anyone could put Nogueir, Barnett, and Arlovski ahead of Couture.
Barnett lost to Cro Cop 7 months before Cro Cop was ko'd by Gonzaga. Couture defeated Gonzaga 4 months after Gonzaga defeated Cro Cop.
Nogueira defeated Tim Sylvia after being battered for 11 minutes. Couture dominated Sylvia less than a year prior to that fight.
Arlovski lost 2 out of 3 to Sylvia, again a fighter dominated by Couture.
Mir deserves to be ranked higher than Lesnar, because he got the victory of Lesnar. Couture still deserves a high ranking due to his most recent victories, and his performance against Lesnar. Couture gave Lesnar more of a fight than anyone else in Lesnar's short career. Mir was getting thrown around, and hammered; then caught Lesnar with a submission. Herring was simply dominated by Lesnar, after significant victory over Kongo. Couture was more than hanging tough when Lesnar caught him with a right hand.
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