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BamBam
12-30-2008, 09:16 PM
Just saw it on sky sports news. Apparently they are holding some kind of enquiry into the judging

Was it really that bad
kosaros
12-30-2008, 09:25 PM
Well i thought Holyfield won the fight, by doing more than valuev so he did very little.

By the way why have you posted this in the British forum?
TFFP
12-30-2008, 09:26 PM
Not really. Been far worse robberies but emotion seems to be overclouding judgement on this one.

I mean really...what the fuck they gonna do? Count the 30 successful punches and try to seriously argue some shit?

Pointless.
BamBam
12-30-2008, 09:29 PM
I posted it in here because this is where you can actually talk to people about boxing. It's a lot better than listening to the assholes out in the main forums. I'd rather talk to the people in here than those fools. Thats all really.

If it is that big a deal I'm sure I'll get banned. It's not like I'm trolling or anything
Papa_Bear
12-30-2008, 09:34 PM
Well I thought that Holyfield won by about 3 rounds and so does everybody I know that saw the fight.

However, these two think differently, and they were actually there...
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I'd watch the fight again to make sure; but seriously, I'm not into self harm.
kosaros
12-30-2008, 09:51 PM
I posted it in here because this is where you can actually talk to people about boxing. It's a lot better than listening to the assholes out in the main forums. I'd rather talk to the people in here than those fools. Thats all really.

If it is that big a deal I'm sure I'll get banned. It's not like I'm trolling or anything

ok :good

Anyway the crowd and commentators i was listening to were not happy with the result and they booed the decision and valuev out of the ring.

However i really hope there is no rematch, i mean how are they going to sell it to tv companies when the first fight was possibly the worst fight of 2008? (luevano vs Dib is another contender for that title)
maka
12-30-2008, 11:03 PM
Well i thought Holyfield won the fight, by doing more than valuev so he did very little.

By the way why have you posted this in the British forum?


cause valuevs granda was british :rofl
TBooze
12-31-2008, 06:13 AM
Just saw it on sky sports news. Apparently they are holding some kind of enquiry into the judging

Was it really that bad


I think you are missing the point. The reason that the WBA are investigating is to try and figure out why if there were bribes, Senor Mendoza did not get his cut........
GazOC
12-31-2008, 09:51 AM
I saw most (about 8-9 rounds) the fight and there was def. 2 ways you could have scored the parts I saw. Valuev was holding centre ring and scoring with a few jabs while Holyfield was moving and potshotting the odd big hook from the outside. Take your pick but I wouldn't read anything into the crowd booing the decision, they were very pro-Holyfield from the start.
hit me HARDER
12-31-2008, 11:47 AM
So what's the most that the WBA can do if thy find it to be improper officiating? Order a re-match? Strip Valuev??
stuey
12-31-2008, 11:52 AM
it was a robbery......Holy pissed it for me.....the big lumpwas useless. But a rematch? i think i would rather stick pins in my eyes.
hit me HARDER
12-31-2008, 11:58 AM
it was a robbery......Holy pissed it for me.....the big lumpwas useless. But a rematch? i think i would rather stick pins in my eyes.


Completely agree on the re-match front, but if you put yourself in Evander's shoes, that may have been his last and best chance at a legitimate Heavyweight strap. I had Holy winning by 4 rounds.
GazOC
12-31-2008, 01:01 PM
So what's the most that the WBA can do if thy find it to be improper officiating? Order a re-match? Strip Valuev??

The most they will do is order a rematch. Stripping a champion after he's been found the winner by judges is a VERY dangerous precident to set.
surreal deal
12-31-2008, 02:27 PM
it was a robbery......Holy pissed it for me.....the big lumpwas useless. But a rematch? i think i would rather stick pins in my eyes.
Just let them do it because its fair on Holyfield Stuey.
You dont have to watch it,just read the result.
scurlaruntings
01-01-2009, 10:26 AM
This is just another way for the WBA to make further sanctioning fees by ordering a rematch. An investigation by them doesnt mean fuck all.
toffeejack
01-01-2009, 10:30 AM
Valuev is a disgrace of a Heavy Weight Champion and that was a disgrace of a fight.

I don't like Haye but I'm sure he would demolish Valuev and I'd love to see it happen.
hit me HARDER
01-01-2009, 01:54 PM
Haye should've went hell for leather for Valuev as a warm-up fight for Klit. I know that's not David's style but him holding a strap would've made his fight with Vitali a much more exciting spectacle.
Thomasl19
01-03-2009, 11:18 AM
They will want a rematch but nobody wants to see it bloody crap
Steve Fox
01-03-2009, 03:32 PM
They should have an investigation into how Holyfield got a shot at the title.
Chinny
01-03-2009, 04:22 PM
Haye should've went hell for leather for Valuev as a warm-up fight for Klit. I know that's not David's style but him holding a strap would've made his fight with Vitali a much more exciting spectacle.

This makes no sense at all. Why does a WBA belt alongside the others make for a more exciting spectacle?
TBooze
01-03-2009, 11:02 PM
They should have an investigation into how Holyfield got a shot at the title.


But that would mean investigating how certain officials got $$$$'s in their personal accounts......

This is boxing son, use your common sense!;)
JonOli
01-03-2009, 11:24 PM
There's too much sentiment toward Holy', imo. He never ever, came to fight or even throw punches - what is a lumbering 7ft Giant supposed to do? This is boxing not bouncing up and down maintain a 6ft distance from your 7ft opponent. Hitting and moving is one thing. Not even throwing, keeping a same distance, and bouncing up and down is another.