OMG...Overeem vs Hari !!! (spoilers)

[boxingcar]

:lol:

Round 1
A huge left knee to the face, followed by a left hook knocks Hari silly and puts him down for the knockdown. After answering the count, Hari gets a few punches in before Overeem compresses and explodes with a huge left hook, countering a wide Hari right, dropping the Moroccan for the KO at 2:07 of the first round.

“For all MMA fighters, and everybody, who think respect is important: there you go,” said Overeem in his post-fight comments.


can't wait to see this one !.

[scurlaruntings]

This is the problem with Overeem. When he`s on he`s on. But the guy is sooo inconsistent.

[boxingcar]

This is the problem with Overeem. When he`s on he`s on. But the guy is sooo inconsistent.

EXTREMELY inconsistent...but when he's on...he's top level , easy.
There's another problem though...even when he's "on"...there's a moment when he'll start to panic or gas...(if the fight lasts too long and if he's unable to submit his opponent)...

[scurlaruntings]

Is he going to stay at heavy now?

[Beebs]

Further evidence that "K1 level striking" is not what people make it out to be.

[Beebs]

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[Tuffnutz]

Further evidence that Hari was born with a dodgy chin too.

Even Kimbo might be able ot KO him.

[boxingcar]

Is he going to stay at heavy now?
He's actually forced to....(he's got dream's hw belt )...so his next fight should be a rematch vs crocop...and if he beats him , maybe a fight vs fedor ! (that is...if fedor beats arlovski...but maybe he'll have to also fight barnett)...

[boxingcar]

Further evidence that "K1 level striking" is not what people make it out to be.
wrong...hari's loss tells more about his chin than the overall K1 level...i'll create a thread about this some other time...

[Grievesy]

That was a great left hook!! And yeah Hari's chin is shit. Problem is usually when people knock him down they charge in and walk onto one of his shots.

[Tuffnutz]

He's actually forced to....(he's got dream's hw belt )...so his next fight should be a rematch vs crocop...and if he beats him , maybe a fight vs fedor ! (that is...if fedor beats arlovski...but maybe he'll have to also fight barnett)...

CC is out for 6 months while he has surgery on his knee.

[boxingcar]

CC is out for 6 months while he has surgery on his knee.
then he'll have to fight someone else...can't be kharitonov since they already fought 2 times..but who knows...they could still opt for a 3rd ...
Alex emelianenko maybe ? Or Junior Silva ?

[LB3000]

Even Kimbo might be able ot KO him. Kimbo would get KO before he even gets a chance. Its easy to bash a guys chin but the opponent still need to land a good shot. I like Hari and have followed him since he first joined K-1 a few years a ago and its always been obvious that he has a dodgy chin.

He's actually forced to....(he's got dream's hw belt ) When did Overeem win the Dream HW belt? :huh

[Beebs]

wrong...hari's loss tells more about his chin than the overall K1 level...i'll create a thread about this some other time...


Musashi getting punchfucked by Mousasi?

[Rico Spadafora]

wow. Thanks for the videos guys I was hoping this was going to be televised in the States. :-(

[scurlaruntings]

Wow what on earth happened to Overeem? Hasnt anyone else noticed how big he is?!?!?!?! The guys traps are huge! When he find time to put on that much muscle? And what was that weird shadow on Hari`s back?

[geppy]

Hari is supposed to be an elite level K-1 striker. He got knocked out by an MMA fighter, but one who is considered to a good striker for MMA.


Oveereem seems to be improving tremendously, accept for getting Ko'd by Kharitonov.

[cdnboxing]

K-1 striking is wildly overrated. Last night just reaffirmed what iv thought the past couple of years. K-1 is a joke filled with 2nd rate fighters.

There are some great fighters in K-1 Max and I really enjoy guys like Corbett, Spong etc. Thailand and the Dutch have some great friggin fighters.

But K-1 has always been sketchy. These guys just arent very good and it made Overeem whos a solid striker look alot better than he is.

At least I know that boxing operates on a much higher skill level than K-1 because what you saw last night would never happen in a boxing ring. Hari was considered the #2 HW in the world and he looked like he never stepped foot in the ring in his life. And his hands looked terrible. This would be the equivalent of an MMA fighter going into Boxing and beating like Wlad. LOL.

I'll go on record and claim that MMA fighters arguably have better hands than K-1 level strikers. In fact I know they do.

With that said I dont think their is any doubt that Overeem is a juicer. That guy looked lie a bodybuilder last night. Hes absolutely huge and you're talking about a guy who fought at 205.

[Dostoevsky]

Wow what on earth happened to Overeem? Hasnt anyone else noticed how big he is?!?!?!?! The guys traps are huge! When he find time to put on that much muscle? And what was that weird shadow on Hari`s back?

12 months ago, he weighed in at 224lbs against Paul Buentello, against Mark Hunt about 6 months ago he weighed in at 240lbs, yesterday he weighed in at 254lbs.

Is it possible to put 30lbs of weight on in 12 months without some errr....added help?

[scurlaruntings]

12 months ago, he weighed in at 224lbs against Paul Buentello, against Mark Hunt about 6 months ago he weighed in at 240lbs, yesterday he weighed in at 254lbs.

Is it possible to put 30lbs of weight on in 12 months without some errr....added help?Its possible providing lifting and eating was all he was doing. The CV required to fight would negate alot of the gains he would have made weightwise. You can bet your life Overeem is on hormones. 30lbs of musculature isnt possible when you train to fight at the same time.

[scurlaruntings]

K-1 striking is wildly overrated. Last night just reaffirmed what iv thought the past couple of years. K-1 is a joke filled with 2nd rate fighters.

There are some great fighters in K-1 Max and I really enjoy guys like Corbett, Spong etc. Thailand and the Dutch have some great friggin fighters.

But K-1 has always been sketchy. These guys just arent very good and it made Overeem whos a solid striker look alot better than he is.

At least I know that boxing operates on a much higher skill level than K-1 because what you saw last night would never happen in a boxing ring. Hari was considered the #2 HW in the world and he looked like he never stepped foot in the ring in his life. And his hands looked terrible. This would be the equivalent of an MMA fighter going into Boxing and beating like Wlad. LOL.

I'll go on record and claim that MMA fighters arguably have better hands than K-1 level strikers. In fact I know they do.

With that said I dont think their is any doubt that Overeem is a juicer. That guy looked lie a bodybuilder last night. Hes absolutely huge and you're talking about a guy who fought at 205.The size diffrential is too great for that to be natural. Looking at his size weight and muscular development all of which has happened within a year means he must have been on something. He used to make 205. I weigh 242 and theres no way id make 205 and im 5 inches shorter than Overeem. The physics simply dont add up.

[Tko4]

12 months ago, he weighed in at 224lbs against Paul Buentello, against Mark Hunt about 6 months ago he weighed in at 240lbs, yesterday he weighed in at 254lbs.

Is it possible to put 30lbs of weight on in 12 months without some errr....added help?

I've been an avid lifter of weights for many, many years, and I've dabbled in a million different training programs, different nutrition, and a fair number of supplements. I have zero doubt that Overeem hit the juice hard in the last year. The only way to even come close to adding that much muscle in a year is by going on a huge bulk, which means eating tons of calories and adding considerable amounts of fat too. 30 pounds in one year with no change in bodyfat? Yeah, the juice he drinks ain't OJ or grape.

[scurlaruntings]

I've been an avid lifter of weights for many, many years, and I've dabbled in a million different training programs, different nutrition, and a fair number of supplements. I have zero doubt that Overeem hit the juice hard in the last year. The only way to even come close to adding that much muscle in a year is by going on a huge bulk, which means eating tons of calories and adding considerable amounts of fat too. 30 pounds in one year with no change in bodyfat? Yeah, the juice he drinks ain't OJ or grape.Bingo. You can see his BF has gone up but not by much. His muscular development is simply too much. A good course of Dbol will allow you to gain a stone in less than a month.

[ShadowWorks]

I do not care. Performance enhancers are a huge part of any fight sport. Especially one were large sums of money are involved. Good for him!

Until his heart becomes to large, he is stacking for sure.

[scurlaruntings]

Until his heart becomes to large, he is stacking for sure.:roll:

[ShadowWorks]

:roll:

Weak and thin like your hair line probably.

[scurlaruntings]

Weak and thin like your hair line probably.Dimwit. Iv not read a post from you that contains anything of any merit whatsoever. I mean you allude that he`ll have an enlarged heart from hormone abuse? Your either incredibly stupid or just a village idiot. And for the record numbnut im not on gear and i have a full head of hair. Guess what even guys on hormones can have a full head of hair. But you know that already right? :roll:

[Cameron]

i love overeem im so glad to see him on an up swing in his career i would also love to see him in the ufc fucking shit up

[LB3000]

Alistair Overeem says his management are in talks with both the UFC and Affliction.

“My management is in negotiations now, I might visit the UFC in Ireland on January 17th,” he told DreamFighters.com

He added: “My management has been in contact with Affliction as well as the UFC... I am a fighter and I concentrate on fighting.”

[Grievesy]

Found this picture regarding Overeem.

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:think Suspicious indeed!

[Dostoevsky]

Oh shit...his head has grown! :lol:

[scurlaruntings]

Found this picture regarding Overeem.

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:think Suspicious indeed!

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Not sure when this was taken but this was his days at 205. He has stretch marks on his shoulder there which indicate rapid weight gain. As you can see certainly not as big as he is now at 254lbs.

[Grievesy]

I'm no expert on this at all, but isn't it possible that with the right diet, training etc that Overeem just had the latent potential to build up that big? Or is it definately hormones, steroids etc?

[scurlaruntings]

Yes it would be possible if that was all he was doing ie lifting weights.But the guys been fighting all year. In between that he can put on 30lbs of musculature in between the CV that negates his gains? Not possible end of story. The only way you can do that is through hormones. That being said Overeem is nearly 30, will start to fill out and reach muscle maturity as well as walking around at at least 220-225 when he fought at 205.

[Grievesy]

Yes it would be possible if that was all he was doing ie lifting weights.But the guys been fighting all year. In between that he can put on 30lbs of musculature in between the CV that negates his gains? Not possible end of story. The only way you can do that is through hormones. That being said Overeem is nearly 30, will start to fill out and reach muscle maturity as well as walking around at at least 220-225 when he fought at 205.

Ok, just checking because, you some people get buff just by lifting.

Although, with him fighting, he is now fighting at heavyweight so he doesn't need to cut or anything. There is practically no weight limit so couldn't he have gained a fair bit of muscle just to bulk up and be competitive? Even thought this would assume then that he isn't training for fighting all that hard.