Aoki vs Alvarez

[Beebs]

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[scurlaruntings]

Man thats a great move! Slide along the floor whilst your opponent evades the takedown. Aoki really needs to work on his striking. He`s becoming way to predictable. He`s untouchable on the mat and id love to see a pure Jujitsu fight between himself and BJ Penn.

[Dostoevsky]

I can't fucking stand Aoki.

[scurlaruntings]

I can't fucking stand Aoki.You cant stand Fedor either. Feel free to sign out when your ready.

[Dostoevsky]

You cant stand Fedor either. Feel free to sign out when your ready.

I'm staying whether you like it or not. :deal

[scurlaruntings]

Aw shit..

[boxingcar]

Another great win for Aoki...this guy is a submission wiz...

[Beebs]

Man thats a great move! Slide along the floor whilst your opponent evades the takedown. Aoki really needs to work on his striking. He`s becoming way to predictable. He`s untouchable on the mat and id love to see a pure Jujitsu fight between himself and BJ Penn.

Why bother with anything else? His style clearly is enough to beat some of the best fighters in the weightclass.

[scurlaruntings]

Why bother with anything else? His style clearly is enough to beat some of the best fighters in the weightclass.This is true. He is a has GREAT Jujitsu. But in the world of mixed martial arts he needs in my opinion to be a bit more rounded. There was a time when Coleman Hughes and Shamrocks one dimension worked for them. Aoki may be the same. Just an observation.

[Sweet Pea]

This is true. He is a has GREAT Jujitsu. But in the world of mixed martial arts he needs in my opinion to be a bit more rounded. There was a time when Coleman Hughes and Shamrocks one dimension worked for them. Aoki may be the same. Just an observation.

Obviously Aoki's one dimension is effective enough. The thing is, he doesn't really even need to take his opponent down. All he needs to do is get a hold of them in any way possible and he is in a position to submit them, whether standing, half standing, or on the ground. He can pull guard with the best of them as well.

However, as far as pure BJJ goes, he's not quite on Penn's level, even though he appears more impressive in MMA because of his smaller skill-set, which basically limits him to ground work, whereas Penn is as well versed as they come anywhere. Penn is probably the only LW I'd pick with 100% confidence over Aoki. I just can't see him winning any way.

[Tyga]

Aoki may be predictable. But it works for him. I'd like to see him fight Penn also. But I think BJ would maul him.

[cdnboxing]

I just dislike Aoki. No doubt hes got some slick BJJ but I just hated him butt scooting around the ring for 45 seconds. For gods sakes it was embarassing.

[Dynamite Kid]

Why bother with anything else? His style clearly is enough to beat some of the best fighters in the weightclass.

Clearly you don't know that type of thinking gets fighters knocked out. And Aoki wants to fight penn? With no standup skills? Penn would kill that kid.

[codeman99998]

It's probably better for Aoki to have no standup skills and just try to grab his opponent than to get mediocre standup skills and just get himself KOd. If Aoki REALLY wants to spend the time necessary to develop a decent standup game, he is still only going to use his striking to enter a clinch as soon as possible...

I don't get it. It's like saying CroCop really needs to work on learning some submissions, just in case. All Aoki needs as far as striking goes is enough to get him close to his opponent, just like all great strikers need is to learn to NOT get submitted.

[Dynamite Kid]

It's probably better for Aoki to have no standup skills and just try to grab his opponent than to get mediocre standup skills and just get himself KOd. If Aoki REALLY wants to spend the time necessary to develop a decent standup game, he is still only going to use his striking to enter a clinch as soon as possible...

I don't get it. It's like saying CroCop really needs to work on learning some submissions, just in case. All Aoki needs as far as striking goes is enough to get him close to his opponent, just like all great strikers need is to learn to NOT get submitted.

But even Cro Cop spends alot of time training ground fighting. Cro Cop actually has more to offer on the ground than Aoki standing up. Atleast Cro Cop has an idea what to do on the ground, Aoki would get murdered by Penn on the feet, and if they hit the ground after that it may be Penn's fight to take cause Aoki would be waxed already waiting to be finished cause Penn put to much hands on him.

[chimba]

He reminds me of a capoiera fighter the way hes sliding his ass on the mat...he'll get smashed soon enough. Alvarez has basically no ground defense. Id like to see him fight Hansen again and guaranteed he'll get smashed worse than last time they met.

[jimmie]

I notice alot of other forums call for Aoki vs Penn im sorry but Penn beats him to death. I hope Aoki faces Hansen for the Dream Title next instead of JZ getting the shot.

[scurlaruntings]

I notice alot of other forums call for Aoki vs Penn im sorry but Penn beats him to death. I hope Aoki faces Hansen for the Dream Title next instead of JZ getting the shot.Hey who expected Manhoef to KO Hunt. In less than 20 seconds as well!! All things are possible. Penn is no doubt an overwhelming favourite. But this would still be a great fight for MMA.

[jimmie]

Hey who expected Manhoef to KO Hunt. In less than 20 seconds as well!! All things are possible. Penn is no doubt an overwhelming favourite. But this would still be a great fight for MMA.

Yeah your right ANYTHING can happen. I knew like everyone Manhoef as a devastating puncher but to KO a much bigger guy like Hunt with one of the greatest chins in combat sports with 1 punch was amazing im not sure its hit everyone yet how amazing that is. Aoki would have a chance but under UFC rules I can imagine they would let him scoot around the ring like that and even then if they did Penn is no Alvarez or any guy Aokis fought on the ground he has top of the food chain BJJ skills. But your correct anythings possible but this fight is a long long away if it ever could happen. Im curious what happens next I mean if BJ beats GSP close do they do a 3rd match right away ? Or if its dominant does he call out Anderson Silva ? Or fight Thiago Alves or fuck maybe fight Hughes agian if he gets past Serra ? Then if does lose hes gotta fight Kenny Florian im assuming. Aokis respect impressed me though I read on Sherdog his thoughts of Penn he called him probablly the best fighter in the world.

[scurlaruntings]

If GSP wins he has to fight Alves and when he does he gets KO`ed and Alves fights BJ Penn for the title and gets submitted with a Gogoplata. The runes told me this. Anyway this fight is pie in the Sky as Aoki isnt coming to the UFC and we know this bout wont ever happen unless Penn leaves the UFC or Dana sees the light of day.

[jimmie]

If GSP wins he has to fight Alves and when he does he gets KO`ed and Alves fights BJ Penn for the title and gets submitted with a Gogoplata. The runes told me this. Anyway this fight is pie in the Sky as Aoki isnt coming to the UFC and we know this bout wont ever happen unless Penn leaves the UFC or Dana sees the light of day.

I doubt either one happens Dana dont wanna cross promote and will do everything to keep Penn from leaving agian.

[Cameron]

i love aoki hes the only fighter that wins by butt scoot and from pulling guard his bjj is one of if not the best in mma