View Full Version : Virgil Hill vs John Conteh
Xplosive
01-02-2009, 12:14 AM
Who woulda won?
TBooze
01-20-2009, 07:58 PM
Conteh had more variation and providing he avoided fighting in Bismark, I would fancy him to outwork and outpoint Quicksilver.
Conteh WU15 (9-6)
mcvey
01-20-2009, 08:13 PM
Conteh had more variation and providing he avoided fighting in Bismark, I would fancy him to outwork and outpoint Quicksilver.
Conteh WU15 (9-6)
Me too,the Conteh who beat Ahumada would take Virgil ,imo.
Sweet Pea
01-20-2009, 10:21 PM
I don't think Virgil goes the distance personally.
AREA 53
01-21-2009, 01:37 PM
With Virgils Jab and Mobility being his primary assets, good enough to give many trouble (like Braxton - through styles ) but Conteh was a very fluid mover, with cobra'esque head movement which would see him Slipping Virgils Jab on the way in, Conteh had an excellant Jab himself, so no guarantee that Virgil owns Long Range, But its what happens When Conteh gets up close and personal where the fight will be won, particularly if Conteh gets a bit frustrated, then he gets Vicious, And i think Virgil gets Stylishly Mugged - this is of couse the earlier Conteh, not thye distracted later Conteh who was conteh to box more and didnt have that Earlier Venomous Attitude
Its looking unanimous - Conteh for me as well ( I suspect like Many Virgil and Camp may be left complaining about careless headwork !?)
natonic
01-21-2009, 02:18 PM
Conteh. Hill didn't have much of a right hand. I just don't think he had enough of an arsenal to beat Conteh.
Clinton
01-22-2009, 09:15 PM
Conteh. He was more fluid and fought in the golden era of lightheavies. Outside of Roy Jones Junior, Conteh's opposition was infinitely superior.
Flea Man
01-23-2009, 02:16 AM
Conteh. by late stoppage.
MRBILL
01-23-2009, 03:03 AM
Who woulda won?
Hill beats Conteh in a real stinker........ Break out the gas mask....... Geezus....
MR.BILL:rofl
Arriba
01-23-2009, 05:28 AM
Conteh. Hill didn't have much of a right hand. I just don't think he had enough of an arsenal to beat Conteh.
Right. Hill has enough to keep himself in the fight (by being always on the move) but not enough to do any damage to get himself a decision or a KO.
Conteh in a 10-5 sort of pseudo route.
red cobra
01-23-2009, 07:44 AM
Conteh by a wide 15 round decision.
ThinBlack
11-03-2011, 01:48 PM
Conteh the man, but Hill could possibly upset him in a close one.I think Virgil takes John in a very close fight, possibly decided by where the fight takes place.
frankenfrank
11-03-2011, 02:04 PM
Conteh. He was more fluid and fought in the golden era of lightheavies. Outside of Roy Jones Junior, Conteh's opposition was infinitely superior.
:blood
Flea Man
11-03-2011, 02:06 PM
FrankenFrank, it arguably was, if not then it's second only to Charles/Moore/Bivins etc etc IMO
frankenfrank
11-03-2011, 02:11 PM
im surprised they didn't introduce him 2d HOF and haven't sirred him yet .
frankenfrank
11-03-2011, 02:17 PM
were they better than rjj , griffin , tarver , toney , harding , devalle , woods , reggie johnson , glen johnson ? no .
not 2 mention that d pre "charles" era was about as good if not better .
and then d spinks&3 muhammads was much better .
conteh fought in d leftovers era of d desert that was b4 him , it was still a desert .
MAG1965
11-03-2011, 08:52 PM
Conteh. Hill didn't have much of a right hand. I just don't think he had enough of an arsenal to beat Conteh.Hill is underrated. A guy with 25 title defenses in his career. Regardless of people saying he didn't have good opposition, most guys cannot beat even half the guys he did in title fights. If Virgil could hit a guy with a jab, he could pepper them and land his counter hook and win decisions. I do agree his right hand was nonexistent. For such a great fighter, his right hand was terrible.
TheGreatA
11-03-2011, 09:15 PM
Hill is one of those fighters that I respect for his longevity and consistency but he never proved to be truly great in any aspect. The majority of opponents that he beat, although with admirable consistency, were not top of the class. Against his best opponents he wound up on the losing end.
Conteh was more exceptional even if for a shorter amount of time. At their relative bests, Conteh's better left jab dictates the fight much the way Thomas Hearns's did. If Hill couldn't outjab you, he didn't have a whole lot to offer.
ron u.k.
11-04-2011, 09:35 AM
were they better than rjj , griffin , tarver , toney , harding , devalle , woods , reggie johnson , glen johnson ? no .
not 2 mention that d pre "charles" era was about as good if not better .
and then d spinks&3 muhammads was much better .
conteh fought in d leftovers era of d desert that was b4 him , it was still a desert . I thought Tony Galento was dead.
he grant
11-04-2011, 10:02 AM
Conteh by decision ...
Conteh
11-04-2011, 11:56 AM
Perhaps too baised, but Conteh mid to late rounds stoppage.
Somebody mentioned Conteh's headwork, Chris Finneghan after the second fight had no qualms whatsoever with Conteh - by his own admission had tried the same and acknowledged that Conteh had the tougher nut ( ie , Conteh didn't do anything he had already tried - respect Chris )
Flea Man
11-04-2011, 03:31 PM
Are you related to the great John Conteh in some way 'Conteh'? One of my favourite fighters :good
Conteh
11-04-2011, 03:54 PM
Are you related to the great John Conteh in some way 'Conteh'? One of my favourite fighters :good
Sorry to disappoint but no, one of my fav's too :thumbsup
Clinton
11-04-2011, 10:50 PM
were they better than rjj , griffin , tarver , toney , harding , devalle , woods , reggie johnson , glen johnson ? no .
not 2 mention that d pre "charles" era was about as good if not better .
and then d spinks&3 muhammads was much better .
conteh fought in d leftovers era of d desert that was b4 him , it was still a desert .
To my knowledge,the 2 best eras of lightheavies in the modern era are the pre Charles era that you mentioned and the mid to late 70s to mid 80s group that you mentioned also.The latter is the era that I was referring to.The Saad,Spinks,Braxton,Mustafa Muhammed,Lopez,Galindez era is definitely better than the era you mentioned above.I mentioned RJJ in reference to Hill because he's the best lightheavy that Hill ever fought,and Jones stopped him in 4 on a body shot.Hill's resume has longevity but that's about it.Had Hill fought throughout the mid 70s to mid 80s era mentioned previously,he would have been an afterthought.
Clinton
11-04-2011, 10:57 PM
Sorry to disappoint but no, one of my fav's too :thumbsup
:goodJohn was a cool cat and a terrific fighter.
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