UFC 93 “Franklin vs. Henderson”

[scurlaruntings]

Mark Coleman is on this card vs Shogun. The fight is apparently going to be at 205?! Looks like Colemans definitely off the juice. And to think the UFC wanted to pit this guy against Lesnar! :roll: I mean is Coleman having a laugh? The guy is 44 and wants to come down to a weight his never fought at in MMA? Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

[rydersonthestorm]

Pretty sure he has dropped to 205 before.

[ubahivn]

last UFC fight was in 1999... did he fight in any other org or has it really been that long for him to compete?

[scurlaruntings]

UFC 99???!?! Il take that as a typo dude. Coleman has been in PRIDE since he left the UFC. He hasn't fought since PRIDE33/34 i think.

[Dostoevsky]

He's hasn't fought since he got that defeated' from some russian.

[ubahivn]

UFC 99???!?! Il take that as a typo dude. Coleman has been in PRIDE since he left the UFC. He hasn't fought since PRIDE33/34 i think.

the year 1999. what year was pride 33/34? All I am trying to do is put a picture in my head of how long he has been away from competition

[Dostoevsky]

Hasn't fought since October 2006, so that'll be a 27 month lay-off. 2 and a bit years.

[ubahivn]

I guess I will have to look at some of his pride fights then. When this was announced my gut reaction was wow I haven't seen this guy in forever, why are they putting on this fight!?! I am trying to see if my gut was right and this is a dumb fight to put on or if he has a chance. On that note does anyone have some highlights or anything that can legally be posted here for me to get an understanding of his level of fighting when he last fought?

[Grievesy]

He's fucked anyway, providing Shogun is back to form. I'm thinking vicious first round beatdown form the clinch. No idea why he has decided to fight more.

[dwilson]

When is this show?

[ubahivn]

Jan-17-2009

[scurlaruntings]

I guess I will have to look at some of his pride fights then. When this was announced my gut reaction was wow I haven't seen this guy in forever, why are they putting on this fight!?! I am trying to see if my gut was right and this is a dumb fight to put on or if he has a chance. On that note does anyone have some highlights or anything that can legally be posted here for me to get an understanding of his level of fighting when he last fought?This fight is only happening because the first ended in controversy when Shogun broke his arm after being slammed by Coleman. Im just completely baffled as to why Coleman has come down to 205 to make the fight?

[ufoalf]

This fight is only happening because the first ended in controversy when Shogun broke his arm after Coleman tripped him. Im just completely baffled as to why Coleman has come down to 205 to make the fight?

fixed :thumbsup

So funny you guys keep calling it a slam...

[scurlaruntings]

fixed :thumbsup

So funny you guys keep calling it a slam...Trip? Are you kidding me? The guy got slammed and his arm was out and it look like his elbow dislocated from the fall. I didnt see NO trip.:blood

[québecwarrior]

Do you guys give credits to Coleman on his win vs Shogun, in the first fight?

[scurlaruntings]

I dont..

[LB3000]

Do you guys give credits to Coleman on his win vs Shogun, in the first fight? No. I watched the preview video on the UFC site and Coleman said if it ends the same way he will be extremely excited as he just wants a win and doesn't care how he gets it :lol:. It going to be good to see Shogun back and hopefully we will see the best of him.

[jimmie]

Im exicted to see how Coleman looks at the weigh ins.

[scurlaruntings]

Im not. He`ll look like a sack of shit. He will loose alot of conditioning unless he`s been off the hormones for some time and already accustomed to the weight. He will also loose musculature in the process which isnt practical espcially at his age.

[jimmie]

Im not. He`ll look like a sack of shit. He will loose alot of conditioning unless he`s been off the hormones for some time and already accustomed to the weight. He will also loose musculature in the process which isnt practical espcially at his age.

Thats why im exicted ive never been a Coleman fan and cant wait to see Shogun beat him into a living death as Ken Shamrock would say.

[scurlaruntings]

Thats why im exicted ive never been a Coleman fan and cant wait to see Shogun beat him into a living death as Ken Shamrock would say.:lol: The worst line ever uttered by Shamrock. Tito laughing afterwards was priceless.

[jimmie]

:lol: The worst line ever uttered by Shamrock. Tito laughing afterwards was priceless.

Well him telling Tito he will knock his hair black,calling him a monkey and im going to bust your little head agian where bad. I remember an interview the 2 did for Maxium magazine before the 2nd bout and Tito said ive gained a couple steps while Kens lost a couple steps and Ken responded by saying well that should make us even then. Shit remember in the video package for that fight Ken said I know Titos trying to submitt me because ive never been submitted then before the Berry fight hes likes coming to KO me cause ive never been KOed although he had been KOed cold in his 4 previous fights. Kens a funny guy if nothing else.

[scurlaruntings]

That was the WWF coming out in him. He was WWF to the bone straight out of OVW! :-)

[québecwarrior]

season 3 of the Ultimate Fighter is priceless. But I admit that I cant stand Ken, he is an egomaniac, who is crazy about respect that people are giving to him.

I like Tito much more, Ken just disgust me

[jimmie]

season 3 of the Ultimate Fighter is priceless. But I admit that I cant stand Ken, he is an egomaniac, who is crazy about respect that people are giving to him.

I like Tito much more, Ken just disgust me

Ken does deserve some respect for his accomplishments but noboddy wants to give to a guy who walks around with chest out demanding it and trying to dimish other people. Tito defeated him badly in 2002 and Ken had to make every excuse like I was weight drained,I had a blown out ACL,I needed to start training with different people,My shoulder hurt or just him simply saying Tito never hurt me with anything but atleast I dropped him. No bro you got your ass kicked admitt it and move on. As a coach it was very sad to watch him never wanting to train his guys he wouldnt show up to pick them up sometimes so you got guys training out in the backyard or he does take them and he tries to force everyone watch him beat Kimo at UFC 48. Say what you will about Tito but he was such a great coach he had guys joining his Big Bear Camp from his team.

[québecwarrior]

Ken does deserve some respect for his accomplishments but noboddy wants to give to a guy who walks around with chest out demanding it and trying to dimish other people. Tito defeated him badly in 2002 and Ken had to make every excuse like I was weight drained,I had a blown out ACL,I needed to start training with different people,My shoulder hurt or just him simply saying Tito never hurt me with anything but atleast I dropped him. No bro you got your ass kicked admitt it and move on. As a coach it was very sad to watch him never wanting to train his guys he wouldnt show up to pick them up sometimes so you got guys training out in the backyard or he does take them and he tries to force everyone watch him beat Kimo at UFC 48. Say what you will about Tito but he was such a great coach he had guys joining his Big Bear Camp from his team.
tito is a great coach, it suck for the guy that ended on ken's team. Bad trainer

[jimmie]

tito is a great coach, it suck for the guy that ended on ken's team. Bad trainer

Yup and the thing is if Ken didnt have that gigantic ego of his he would be a great teach and trainer. You figure this guy has seen everything and probablly was forgot more then most will ever know but theres something mentally wrong with that man. I always thought that little boot camp he put the Lions Den guys through and those things when he was evaulating fighters on TUF 3 where stupid it doesnt tell you shit about the fighters abilities. Also he brang in that big weight lifter guy Dan Freeman I think his name was I mean come on now you got Tito bringing in Dean Lister for a Jiu-Jitsu coach and I know you cant really top that but Ken is a complete and total jackass watching him get KOed every fight is hilliarious.

[québecwarrior]

Yup and the thing is if Ken didnt have that gigantic ego of his he would be a great teach and trainer. You figure this guy has seen everything and probablly was forgot more then most will ever know but theres something mentally wrong with that man. I always thought that little boot camp he put the Lions Den guys through and those things when he was evaulating fighters on TUF 3 where stupid it doesnt tell you shit about the fighters abilities. Also he brang in that big weight lifter guy Dan Freeman I think his name was I mean come on now you got Tito bringing in Dean Lister for a Jiu-Jitsu coach and I know you cant really top that but Ken is a complete and total jackass watching him get KOed every fight is hilliarious.
Hillarious and sad at the same time.
This pionner of that sport, is just putting a shame on his legend.
Like Holyfield, but at least Holy, dont loose by KO each fucking time

[Trevor Ross]

A healthy Coleman can take anyone down and control them unless they are Nog and Fedor.

[LB3000]

You can watch the countdown show in full on the UFC site.

Main Card

Dan Henderson vs. Rich Franklin
Mark Coleman vs. Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua
Alan Belcher vs. Denis Kang
Jeremy Horn vs. Rousimar Palhares
Marcus Davis vs. Chris Lytle

Prelims

Alexandre Barros vs. Martin Kampmann
Antonio Mendes vs. Eric Schafer
Thomasz Drwal vs. Ivan Serati
Tom Egan vs. John Hathaway
Denis Siver vs. Nate Mohr