Froch v Mundine

[Ed.]

Froch hurts/beats/schools Mundine 10 times out of 10. Leave your toothbrush at home Anthony, you won't be needing it against the Cobra.

:happy

[teke]

I agree,

This fella here beats Mundine

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:lol::lol:

[Ed.]

My French isn't great but I'm sure Pascal was asking for his mummy.

[this bloke]

froch is garbage
mundine boxes circles around him 10 times out of 10

[Ed.]

If Sven 'Lipstick' Ottke can knock him out, Froch will bounce him around like a wallaby.

[HairyHighlander]

I think i went into deatail last week ( oh ok new years ) regarding the Ottke situation.

I will easily state, what Mundine did or achieved to get to Germany and take on i am presuming/remembering an undisputed fighter at the time(please correct me) was quite impressive. Before i begin, i really cant figure this guy and his family out(business peoples) His record regarding cash and appearance,pisses on any fighter i can think of, sure he came from League and his dad was a Legend(yes) in his own right.

Mundine would either dance and poke. Froch will put him under the canvas, not on it.

I will take Froch.

[scunny slugger]

froch no doubt mundine is a discrace.Making a living out of fighting taxi drivers,shit his pants when there was talk of kessler mundine rematch,so made the excuse that he was moving down to middleweight,froch aint kessler i know,but it wont happen froch is to powerful and mundine is to overated imo and hes a prick,so froch by brutal k.o,will have mundine calling for a sukkle on mummys teat!

[ashley]

Give me a break.....who has froch beaten that would let you think he would destroy mundine......an old Reid :patsch.....pascal - who has he beaten?

Speed kills and froch wont have a seat belt on in the ring......Mundine points win :deal

Oh.....the fight will never be made anyway :deal

[HairyHighlander]

Give me a break.....who has froch beaten that would let you think he would destroy mundine......an old Reid :patsch.....pascal - who has he beaten?

Speed kills and froch wont have a seat belt on in the ring......Mundine points win :deal

Oh.....the fight will never be made anyway :deal


Lets look the other way, who has Froch ignored in his quest? Oh who has Mundine ignored or ok repeatedly returned to old foes, hush mon, please hush. Sorry "Ashley"

Seriously, Mundines a walking running bitch in Pro circles, a shame, he HAD a lot to give.

[sambo1987]

Mundine would land on Froch at will. Mundine by KO. Easy work.

[daz52]

Mundine would land on Froch at will. Mundine by KO. Easy work.


Mundine cant KO Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas or Rafael Sosa Pintos, but he KOs Carl Froch? :patsch

[HairyHighlander]

Mundine would land on Froch at will. Mundine by KO. Easy work.


He certainly could and might.

K O ?

Please remove yourself from ESB :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[HairyHighlander]

Mundine cant KO Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas or Rafael Sosa Pintos, but he KOs Carl Froch? :patsch

or Charlie "roadsweeper" Cleaner

Though he could,thats the crying shame

[teke]

froch is garbage
mundine boxes circles around him 10 times out of 10:lol: :yep:deal:deal

[HairyHighlander]

:lol: :yep:deal:deal

"aye" :thumbsup

[teke]

"aye" :thumbsuptrue aye :good

[Infern0]

Mundine Ko? lmfao mundine couldnt ko a fly

[sambo1987]

Mundine cant KO Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas or Rafael Sosa Pintos, but he KOs Carl Froch? :patsch

Thats just mindless logic. He can KO Sam Soliman, but can't KO Froch?

Fighter A, B & C theory.

I'm not a Mundine fan, but I see nothing special in Froch and believe Mundine stops him with speed at 168.

[teke]

Mundine has good power. If any guy gets hit enough with big shots especially ones he doesnt see then he is in trouble.

[Anenigma]

Thats just mindless logic. He can KO Sam Soliman, but can't KO Froch?

Fighter A, B & C theory.

I'm not a Mundine fan, but I see nothing special in Froch and believe Mundine stops him with speed at 168.


I agree Froch doesn't do anything for me, Mundine UD

[ipswich express]

I think i went into deatail last week ( oh ok new years ) regarding the Ottke situation.

I will easily state, what Mundine did or achieved to get to Germany and take on i am presuming/remembering an undisputed fighter at the time(please correct me) was quite impressive. Before i begin, i really cant figure this guy and his family out(business peoples) His record regarding cash and appearance,pisses on any fighter i can think of, sure he came from League and his dad was a Legend(yes) in his own right.

Mundine would either dance and poke. Froch will put him under the canvas, not on it.

I will take Froch.

Ottke held just the IBF strap at the time.

[Anenigma]

Ottke held just the IBF strap at the time.

Maybe he meant undefeated fighter:think

[HairyHighlander]

Ottke held just the IBF strap at the time.


yo cheers,thought it was more for some reason, work time, laters :happy

[smellmyfinger]

Ill never understand why Mundine moved down to middleweight. Firstly, who gives up a belt to change division unless a big fight is already signed? Second, he had the chance at SM to set up a great rematch with Kessler. He could have carved this wannabe Froch up, then outboxed Bika, and by this time, a Mundine v Kessler fight is the best SM fight out there, (with Joe moving to LH). Even a loss to Kessler at this point wouldnt have really set him back, it would have gained him respect.
Its sad, sad for his fans.:verysad

[smellmyfinger]

duplicate.............deleted

[maco_187]

does he actually have any fans left?

[teke]

does he actually have any fans left?Of course he does.

Whats in store from St Merge Scum this year? Another mediocre rise to 8th spot mid season to a dismal plummet next to Souths towards season close? :yep

[pecks]

Of course he does.

Whats in store from St Merge Scum this year? Another mediocre rise to 8th spot mid season to a dismal plummet next to Souths towards season close? :yepThe white rabbit will rise in 09, I'm telling y'all now.

We'll finish around 4th or 5th and will be making it into week 3 of the finals. We'll finish ahead of Manly who'll struggle to handle the extra pressure etc from being defending premiers.

[teke]

The white rabbit will rise in 09, I'm telling y'all now.

We'll finish around 4th or 5th and will be making it into week 3 of the finals. We'll finish ahead of Manly who'll struggle to handle the extra pressure etc from being defending premiers.Manly will go back to back or that fuckin close it aint funny.

You all know that Manly will start out raging favourites.

[pecks]

Manly will go back to back or that fuckin close it aint funny.

You all know that Manly will start out raging favourites.Manly will finish outside the top 2 this year, I'm serious too.

[teke]

Manly will finish outside the top 2 this year, I'm serious too.:lol::lol:

You say it like it's a bad thing.

If I said to you Souths would finish just outside the top 2 you'd blow your load :yep

[pecks]

:lol::lol:

You say it like it's a bad thing.

If I said to you Souths would finish just outside the top 2 you'd blow your load :yepI already blew my load over that video in the lounge.

[riggers]

Who has Mundine ever beaten that was as good as Froch ?

Who has Mundine ever stopped who was as good as Froch ?

Look at the guys who have beaten Mundine, could Froch have beaten any of them ?

Nuff Said

[teke]

Who has Mundine ever beaten that was as good as Froch ?

Green was/is way better than Froch.

Would Froch have beaten Ottke or Kessler - fuck no, he would struggle against Siaca aswell and all these fighters Mundine wasnt at his best :deal, why - cause he's garrrbage

[riggers]

Froch may not beat Kessler but he would fight him and not run. He may not have beaten Ottke but he would not have been ko'd by him, and i think with seasoning he would beat Ottke, Kessler not so sure. Siaca he would destroy. Green he would beat too, Froch is well capable of outboxing people and has a chin to back up the moments he cannot.

Mundine is a massive disapointment, there will be many unanswered questions when he retires and people will debate who he could or could not have beaten. But the reason for that is because he won't fight them.

[scunny slugger]

Froch may not beat Kessler but he would fight him and not run. He may not have beaten Ottke but he would not have been ko'd by him, and i think with seasoning he would beat Ottke, Kessler not so sure. Siaca he would destroy. Green he would beat too, Froch is well capable of outboxing people and has a chin to back up the moments he cannot.

Mundine is a massive disapointment, there will be many unanswered questions when he retires and people will debate who he could or could not have beaten. But the reason for that is because he won't fight them.

complete sense m8,your the only one that isnt deluded by mundine!

[ashley]

:blabla........mundine will have a better 2009 than froch will have....least mundine wont get beaten this year.....unlike froch.....and mundine will have a WBA belt as well :deal

[riggers]

Ashley Froch may get beaten this year, just not by Mundine. Mundine coulda shoulda woulda been a great fighter. Mundine may get many belts but contrary to what he says, he will never be THE man. He will never go undisputed because he ducks opponents.

Who will beat Froch this year ?

[Anenigma]

Mundine will have to step up to win the Title this year and will impress them in the States.

[Infern0]

Mundine is through, he is an over-rated joke like most australian sports people

[teke]

Mundine is through, he is an over-rated joke like most australian sports peopleIm tempted to have a cheap shot at the All Blacks cause of that comment...but...i would just be lying :yep

[Infern0]

Kiwis thrashed your over-rated joke of a league team didn't they, and we don't even care about league!

[teke]

Kiwis thrashed your over-rated joke of a league team didn't they, and we don't even care about league!Your preaching that to the wrong person mate. Teke is a maori word.

Lets not lie, Kiwis do care about league

[Rise Above]

Mundine is through, he is an over-rated joke like most australian sports people


Let me just ask you who is the boss in this pic. :hey

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[pecks]

Kiwis thrashed your over-rated joke of a league team didn't they, and we don't even care about league!
I'm Aussie but I'm glad the Kiwi's thumped our joke of a league team.

Go da Bunnies!!! It's rock n roll time in 09. :yep

[pecks]

Let me just ask you who is the boss in this pic. :hey

[Only registered and activated users can see links] that Oztriker in the background getting ready to be served?

Where is that old man anyway?

[ashley]

Let me just ask you who is the boss in this pic. :hey

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SOME OF YOUR BEST WORK MATE :yep

[scunny slugger]

:blabla........mundine will have a better 2009 than froch will have....least mundine wont get beaten this year.....unlike froch.....and mundine will have a WBA belt as well :deal

only reason mundine wont get beat is coz he will continue to fight bums.at least carl trying for the big fights

[stiflers mum]

Mundine is through, he is an over-rated joke like most australian sports people
we have 2 rugby world cups and you only have 1 the first one which everyone else treated as a joke.and we all know especially NZwomen and NZ casualty wards how seriously you kiwis treat that.

[Jambo]

Froch may not beat Kessler but he would fight him and not run. He may not have beaten Ottke but he would not have been ko'd by him, and i think with seasoning he would beat Ottke, Kessler not so sure. Siaca he would destroy. Green he would beat too, Froch is well capable of outboxing people and has a chin to back up the moments he cannot.

Mundine is a massive disapointment, there will be many unanswered questions when he retires and people will debate who he could or could not have beaten. But the reason for that is because he won't fight them.

Your a fuking dumbarse, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously saying sh*t like this^^^^^^^

Kessler SPANKS Froch

Green would have KO'd Froch

Mundine will totally outbox Froch.

Froch can't outbox sh*t, he is probably the worst technical world champ there is at the moment. He is absolutely WOEFUL defensively, has very sloppy limited offense, and Mundine would pick him apart all night.

Green is a proven bigger puncher than Froch, much tighter and crisper with his shots, and he couldn't land on Mundine all night.

How the fuk do you expect someone as technically poor as Froch to?

[ipswich express]

I take it you won't be buying one of these then Jambo? ha ha...

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I do however dip my lid to Froch for seeking big fights.

[Jambo]

I take it you won't be buying one of these then Jambo? ha ha...

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I do however dip my lid to Froch for seeking big fights.

:rofl:rofl Definitely not on the christmas list...

He says he is seeking big fights, but other sources say he turned down Bute and Kessler. So who knows what he is really up to...

If he is then full credit to him, he is FAR better than Mundine in that regard. Still, i can't see him having a long reign at the top fighting the best in the div. Taylor would be way too fast and too good from the outside. He would have only a punchers chance.

Kess would just be a level above in every regard, not even close.

Bute would be a decent fight for him, based on styles.

[ipswich express]

I agree with your assessment. I do however have a sneaking suspicion that Taylor may be on the way out. We'll have to wait and see. Kessler needs to get his arse into gear and clean up the division and cement his legacy. Still plenty of time to do it.

[Jambo]

I agree with your assessment. I do however have a sneaking suspicion that Taylor may be on the way out. We'll have to wait and see. Kessler needs to get his arse into gear and clean up the division and cement his legacy. Still plenty of time to do it.

Why do you think Taylor is on the way out? I thought he put on a great display of boxing vs Lacy, and he looked quite sharp against Pavlik in their second fight.

He is still only a young fighter on top of everything.

[TheBradyHawkes]

Why do you think Taylor is on the way out? I thought he put on a great display of boxing vs Lacy, and he looked quite sharp against Pavlik in their second fight.

He is still only a young fighter on top of everything.

Truth. Taylor is not going anywhere. His style is still enough to frustrate most in the division. Personally, I think he beats Kessler.

[TheBradyHawkes]

Let me just ask you who is the boss in this pic. :hey

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:rofl:rofl:rofl

[ipswich express]

I don't really know. I guess I just figured he get Lacy out of there because Jeff is so finished it's not funny IMO. That being said, he did a good job. I just don't see him doing a great deal at 168lbs if he plans on going through Kessler. Him and Froch would be fun to watch.

[teke]

:rofl:rofl Definitely not on the christmas list...

He says he is seeking big fights, but other sources say he turned down Bute and Kessler. So who knows what he is really up to...

If he is then full credit to him, he is FAR better than Mundine in that regard. Still, i can't see him having a long reign at the top fighting the best in the div. Taylor would be way too fast and too good from the outside. He would have only a punchers chance.

Kess would just be a level above in every regard, not even close.

Bute would be a decent fight for him, based on styles.Word for Word agree except for the Bute fight being Decent. I use to rate Bute as being the most overrated fighter on here but his fight with Andrade showed me he had more skill than i previously thought. This title now goes to Froch. I think Bute embarasses him through crisp clean combos all night long.

[the beaver]

Froch is extremely overrated and wld be lucky to land anything on Mundine at his best.

That said, Froch is stepping it up now and looking to fight the best, where as Mundine will continue to fuxck around fighting nobodies for he nxt 2yrs.

Prime v Prime ..... Mundine wins easily.

Now v Now ....... Froch has a 50% chance for the KO

[teke]

Do people realise he is 31 and has been boxing for 7 years already :lol:

You cannot and i repeat cannot compare Mundines comp to this guys

[ipswich express]

Yeah you're right, but his accomplishments already outweigh Anthony's.

[teke]

Yeah you're right, but his accomplishments already outweigh Anthony's.You need to put some diff bait on that hook :lol:

[ipswich express]

I'll stand by my comment. National title, Commonwealth title and a legitimate world title.

[teke]

I'll stand by my comment. National title, Commonwealth title and a legitimate world title.yeah i know but...

[Jambo]

I'll stand by my comment. National title, Commonwealth title and a legitimate world title.

I wouldnt' call Frochs title legitimate. Its a paper title, not like he beat the champ or anything.

Anthony has a better resume, has faced tougher fighters, and has picked up titles which have just as much worth as the one Froch gained by beating Pascal IMO.

The fact that it is considered a fully fledged title means nothing, especially when Anthony ended up being a fully fledged champ after holding the regular belt for an extended period.

[Jambo]

I don't really know. I guess I just figured he get Lacy out of there because Jeff is so finished it's not funny IMO. That being said, he did a good job. I just don't see him doing a great deal at 168lbs if he plans on going through Kessler. Him and Froch would be fun to watch.

Taylor would give Kess more trouble then you might think. Kess has never been good at applying pressure, which is taylor's biggest weakness. From the outside, Taylor's handspeed and reach could definitely create problems for Kessler.

I think it would be a very good fight.

[THN]

Mundine takes this one, just a shame it'll never happen.

[ipswich express]

I wouldnt' call Frochs title legitimate. Its a paper title, not like he beat the champ or anything.

Anthony has a better resume, has faced tougher fighters, and has picked up titles which have just as much worth as the one Froch gained by beating Pascal IMO.

The fact that it is considered a fully fledged title means nothing, especially when Anthony ended up being a fully fledged champ after holding the regular belt for an extended period.

Level of competition is certainly better, there's no doubting that. It's been years since Anthony fought someone that remotely interested me. Probably Green, possibly Soliman II.

I dunno about paper title. It's become vacant since the legitimate, undefeated and unified world champion moved up in weight, leaving the strap vacant. He faced Pascal who was next in line. Can't ask much more than that.

I'll be betting large on Kessler if he gets to face Taylor. I've had my doubts on Taylor for a long, long time. I just don't think he'll have enough to get past Mikkel.

[Jambo]

Level of competition is certainly better, there's no doubting that. It's been years since Anthony fought someone that remotely interested me. Probably Green, possibly Soliman II.

I dunno about paper title. It's become vacant since the legitimate, undefeated and unified world champion moved up in weight, leaving the strap vacant. He faced Pascal who was next in line. Can't ask much more than that.

I'll be betting large on Kessler if he gets to face Taylor. I've had my doubts on Taylor for a long, long time. I just don't think he'll have enough to get past Mikkel.

Taylor was good enough from the outside to beat Hop twice, and to give Winky a hell of a fight.

I think you may be underestimating him, although i would favour kessler slightly also.

The point is with Froch, that he never would have got the title if he had faced Calzaghe. So it really is a paper title. Two top contenders going at it, which is no different then what happens for an interim/regular strap.

Mundine hasnt' faced anyone in ages, but at the same time, Froch has never faced anyone really either that was an actual threat, apart from his last fight which was for the title, where he had no choice in his opponent. Lets not glorify a guy who has really feasted on some very easy match ups thus far in his career. National and Commonwealth titles really don't mean much in the big scheme of things, personally i dont' place any real value on such titles. The champion/fighter makes the belt, not vice versa IMO.

[pecks]

I think Taylor's speed would initially give Kessler some trouble, but I think Kessler inevitably smothers him and stops him at some point.
His high work rate and precision punching would be too much for Taylor I think. It'd be interesting in the first few rounds though.

[Infern0]

poor sad aussies, you think mundine is an atg or something, face it your poor country has never produced a good boxer.

[Loggo]

Froch isn`t overrated,hyped,these words are ludicrously overused.How the fuck is it someone who goes the long way to world honours suddenly is accused of not being amongst the best(behind Kessler,maybe Bute).About his age so what if he`s 31,fighters have won titles at 41 and had much more wear and tear due to fights.Froch has been dodged so many times because of his style which has held him back i think.

[Jambo]

poor sad aussies, you think mundine is an atg or something, face it your poor country has never produced a good boxer.

:rofl:rofl

Says the guy from New Zealand.

Thats like Ethiopia pointing out that Italy isn't a true force in olympic swimming.

Actually hang on, you did have that guy David Tua didn't you. How did his fight against Lennox Lewis go again, i can't remember:yep

[Jambo]

Froch isn`t overrated,hyped,these words are ludicrously overused.How the fuck is it someone who goes the long way to world honours suddenly is accused of not being amongst the best(behind Kessler,maybe Bute).About his age so what if he`s 31,fighters have won titles at 41 and had much more wear and tear due to fights.Froch has been dodged so many times because of his style which has held him back i think.

Dodged:rofl Who dodged him?

You should spend more time getting his cock to dodge your mouth, then you wouldnt' make such ridiculous comments.

[Loggo]

Dodged:rofl Who dodged him?

You should spend more time getting his cock to dodge your mouth, then you wouldnt' make such ridiculous comments.Well for a start as your insinuating i`m a Froch fan because of that unfunny cock joke i`m not.I think Froch is a bit of a gobshite.But if someone who has the kos he`s got and is unbeaten you wonder why its took him this long for the world title ,understand?

[Jambo]

Well for a start as your insinuating i`m a Froch fan because of that unfunny cock joke i`m not.I think Froch is a bit of a gobshite.But if someone who has the kos he`s got and is unbeaten you wonder why its took him this long for the world title ,understand?

Because hes been protected for so long, and he hasn't faced anyone of note. An ancient robin Reid doesn't count. You have to be really making an effort to face genuine prime contenders and top 10 fighters to get a shot.

Look at guys like Yuri Gamboa. He will be getting a shot very soon, and is FARRRRR more dangerous an opponent than Froch. Difference is, he takes risk, because he has the ability to back it up.

Froch doesn't, he sucks.

Making assumptions about him being dodged was a silly thing to do on your behalf. I'll forgive you this time, just don't do it ever again.

[ipswich express]

Taylor was good enough from the outside to beat Hop twice, and to give Winky a hell of a fight.

I think you may be underestimating him, although i would favour kessler slightly also.

The point is with Froch, that he never would have got the title if he had faced Calzaghe. So it really is a paper title. Two top contenders going at it, which is no different then what happens for an interim/regular strap.

Mundine hasnt' faced anyone in ages, but at the same time, Froch has never faced anyone really either that was an actual threat, apart from his last fight which was for the title, where he had no choice in his opponent. Lets not glorify a guy who has really feasted on some very easy match ups thus far in his career. National and Commonwealth titles really don't mean much in the big scheme of things, personally i dont' place any real value on such titles. The champion/fighter makes the belt, not vice versa IMO.

I'm not after an alphabet soup debate, but there's a big difference between the legitimacy of beating the highest available contender for a strap that's become vacant because someone has moved up in weight and some second tier title that dates back to 2004 or 2005 so an organisation can get more sanctioning fees.

I disagree with your comments about National and C'wealth titles. Ask any domestic boxer who has won one what it means to them. Hell I know a certain boxer from around our town that is still cut he didn't get up in a state title.

Froch will land big fights or at the very least, decent defences. Him getting the WBC strap ensures that. Taylor, Dirrell, Ward etc are all rated highly.

Essentially I don't disagree with great deals in what you've said. Froch is largely untested. But for mine, it hasn't been for lack of trying. His career is on the asendency, while Anthony had the perfect opportunity to face Kessler and ran away. If Froch does the same, he deserves flak. But at this point in time, he looks like he's trying to land fights, not avoid them.

[Kegsy]

I'm not after an alphabet soup debate, but there's a big difference between the legitimacy of beating the highest available contender for a strap that's become vacant because someone has moved up in weight and some second tier title that dates back to 2004 or 2005 so an organisation can get more sanctioning fees.

I disagree with your comments about National and C'wealth titles. Ask any domestic boxer who has won one what it means to them. Hell I know a certain boxer from around our town that is still cut he didn't get up in a state title.

Froch will land big fights or at the very least, decent defences. Him getting the WBC strap ensures that. Taylor, Dirrell, Ward etc are all rated highly.

Essentially I don't disagree with great deals in what you've said. Froch is largely untested. But for mine, it hasn't been for lack of trying. His career is on the asendency, while Anthony had the perfect opportunity to face Kessler and ran away. If Froch does the same, he deserves flak. But at this point in time, he looks like he's trying to land fights, not avoid them.:good
Spot on in my opinion mate.

[Loggo]

I'm not after an alphabet soup debate, but there's a big difference between the legitimacy of beating the highest available contender for a strap that's become vacant because someone has moved up in weight and some second tier title that dates back to 2004 or 2005 so an organisation can get more sanctioning fees.

I disagree with your comments about National and C'wealth titles. Ask any domestic boxer who has won one what it means to them. Hell I know a certain boxer from around our town that is still cut he didn't get up in a state title.

Froch will land big fights or at the very least, decent defences. Him getting the WBC strap ensures that. Taylor, Dirrell, Ward etc are all rated highly.

Essentially I don't disagree with great deals in what you've said. Froch is largely untested. But for mine, it hasn't been for lack of trying. His career is on the asendency, while Anthony had the perfect opportunity to face Kessler and ran away. If Froch does the same, he deserves flak. But at this point in time, he looks like he's trying to land fights, not avoid them.No,Jambo thinks Froch sucks,after watching the Jean Pascal fight i`d put him about 4th best suppermiddleweight in the world,who the fuck is Gamboa?Anyway he`s warned me about making "assumptions".Better not then because he`ll threaten to get his cock out on me.

[ipswich express]

No,Jambo thinks Froch sucks,after watching the Jean Pascal fight i`d put him about 4th best suppermiddleweight in the world,who the fuck is Gamboa?Anyway he`s warned me about making "assumptions".Better not then because he`ll threaten to get his cock out on me.

:blood

Dunno if you're taking the piss or not, but if not, youtube him.

[Xplosive]

Mundine would school the shit outta Froch IMO.

[riggers]

Froch beats Mundine yesterday, today, tomorrow whenever, because he has balls and Mundine does not.

Raw ability, talent , athleticism and Mundine is fantastic, yet he has no faith in himself, a punch to the temple way back when broke his heart. He fights afraid now, he makes Hector Camacho look ruthless.

I do have concerns about Froch, but his chin is not one ofthem, can you imagine Mundine standing up from the shots he took against Pascal ? Thought not.

The way i see it, Mundine cannot afford to make a mistake against a puncher like Froch, and at some point over 36 minutes he would. Then its over.

He beat Green , but who is he in world terms ?
He beat Soliman, he lost over here too.
He ran like he had Kesslers wallet.
Sciaca ..........jesus
Ottke .....Otkke ko'd him ( a novice him, so that can be forgiven and forgotten imo )

I hope Froch does fight him, while we are at it why not have England V Aus , what would your matches be ?

[Jambo]

I'm not after an alphabet soup debate, but there's a big difference between the legitimacy of beating the highest available contender for a strap that's become vacant because someone has moved up in weight and some second tier title that dates back to 2004 or 2005 so an organisation can get more sanctioning fees.

Once again though its about the fighter they beat but, not the belt. I wouldnt' consider Echols and Soliman to be second tier fighters at the time Choc fought them... Would you? The belt to me really means little, especially when they didn't beat the champ, its an extremely similar scenario.


I disagree with your comments about National and C'wealth titles. Ask any domestic boxer who has won one what it means to them. Hell I know a certain boxer from around our town that is still cut he didn't get up in a state title.


I think you misunderstood this part. I said in the big scheme of things, meaning on the world stage. For world class contenders, these minor titles don't really mean a lot. I would rather see a young fighter taking on top 10 fighters and winning, then going after some of these minor titles, which often times for world class fighters are quite easy to obtain.

These types of belts are really something for the top guys in the domestic circuit to be aiming for, and i have no doubt it means a lot to such fighters.


Froch will land big fights or at the very least, decent defences. Him getting the WBC strap ensures that. Taylor, Dirrell, Ward etc are all rated highly.


Fair enough, but at the same time, you cant' give him credit for something he hasn't done yet, especially looking at his precedant so far within his career.


Essentially I don't disagree with great deals in what you've said. Froch is largely untested. But for mine, it hasn't been for lack of trying. His career is on the asendency, while Anthony had the perfect opportunity to face Kessler and ran away. If Froch does the same, he deserves flak. But at this point in time, he looks like he's trying to land fights, not avoid them.

You know as well as anyone i am no Mundine fan, I think his ambition leaves a LOT to be desired.

At the same time, so does Frochs thus far, i'm really not ready to start praising him, when he has been pretty well protected himself.

We'll see how brave Froch becomes when he faces some elite level fighters and gets beaten. Something tells me not quite so much.

Its easy to bag Choc, but the guy has fought some tough opponents, in Echols, Ottke, Kessler, Green, Soliman.

[Jambo]

No,Jambo thinks Froch sucks,after watching the Jean Pascal fight i`d put him about 4th best suppermiddleweight in the world,who the fuck is Gamboa?Anyway he`s warned me about making "assumptions".Better not then because he`ll threaten to get his cock out on me.

Sucks like you do working the gloryhole.

[teke]

Froch beats Mundine yesterday, today, tomorrow whenever, because he has balls and Mundine does not.

I just cant agree with this statement. It has taken him a very long time to grow these so called balls. Six and a bit years and he's only just opening his mouth wanting to fight some major players :lol::lol:

[Infern0]

Froch beats mundine 100 times out of 100

Mundine should retire but i hope he doesn't

by the way who is "Crazy Kim"

[pecks]

I just cant agree with this statement. It has taken him a very long time to grow these so called balls. Six and a bit years and he's only just opening his mouth wanting to fight some major players :lol::lol:Fair play teke.
While Mundine was taking on Ottke in his 11th fight, Froch was taking on Dmitry fucking Adomovich who boasts a frightening 10 - 7 - 1 record.

While Mundine may be a big pussy now, he did have a good go earlier on.

[pecks]

by the way who is "Crazy Kim"Thats the name your mother has adopted from the Tongan rugby team.

[the beaver]

Froch beats mundine 100 times out of 100

Mundine should retire but i hope he doesn't

by the way who is "Crazy Kim"

Ok will u bet me 100/1 Mundine if they fight??

:lol::lol:

[Infern0]

yeah i will, it would be easy money, mundine is the worst champ of all time

[the beaver]

yeah i will, it would be easy money, mundine is the worst champ of all time

I guess you don't know much about odds and bookmaking :patsch

[ipswich express]

Once again though its about the fighter they beat but, not the belt. I wouldnt' consider Echols and Soliman to be second tier fighters at the time Choc fought them... Would you? The belt to me really means little, especially when they didn't beat the champ, its an extremely similar scenario.



I think you misunderstood this part. I said in the big scheme of things, meaning on the world stage. For world class contenders, these minor titles don't really mean a lot. I would rather see a young fighter taking on top 10 fighters and winning, then going after some of these minor titles, which often times for world class fighters are quite easy to obtain.

These types of belts are really something for the top guys in the domestic circuit to be aiming for, and i have no doubt it means a lot to such fighters.



Fair enough, but at the same time, you cant' give him credit for something he hasn't done yet, especially looking at his precedant so far within his career.



You know as well as anyone i am no Mundine fan, I think his ambition leaves a LOT to be desired.

At the same time, so does Frochs thus far, i'm really not ready to start praising him, when he has been pretty well protected himself.

We'll see how brave Froch becomes when he faces some elite level fighters and gets beaten. Something tells me not quite so much.

Its easy to bag Choc, but the guy has fought some tough opponents, in Echols, Ottke, Kessler, Green, Soliman.

Again I understand what you're saying, however Anthony calls himself Mr 2 time. Mr 2 time what exactly? Froch has won a world recognised belt after a champion has vacated. Sorry but Echols was shot (literally) and Soliman is a middleweight at best. That being said, they were solid contenders and Anthony deserves his credit.

Froch meanwhile, despite being 31, has only had 24 fights. I think his career has been progressingly steadily. A resume of Porras, Magee, Dodson, Tatevoysan (who's fought everyone) a shot Reid and Pascal is not a bad little resume. It's not going to be confused with the who's who of Death Row, but it's not bad none the less. As I said, he looks like he's after big fights. He's called out Calzaghe for years and many others. That to me is more impressive than running out of the division.

Don't get me wrong. I know you're not backing Choc, and this post isn't necessarily aimed at you. I guess I'm just more impressed with the guy who's seeking challenges than the guy who's running from them.

Also the C'Wealth title gives you a good ranking with the WBC and is still held with a fair degree of prestige. Certainly more than Pan African belts etc.

[Loggo]

:blood

Dunno if you're taking the piss or not, but if not, youtube him.Didn`t disrespect the guy,didn`t mean to, but isn`t he a featherweight?Jambo was on at me about Yuri Gamboa being farrr more dangerous than Carl Froch.:-((

[ipswich express]

Yeah and he's probably right mate.

[teke]

Yeah and he's probably right mate.:lol::lol:

[teke]

Don't get me wrong. I know you're not backing Choc, and this post isn't necessarily aimed at you. I guess I'm just more impressed with the guy who's seeking challenges than the guy who's running from them.
Carl seeking challenges, well that's to be determined...he's had enough time in the sport to land something. He could very well be doing a mundine and just talking about wanting challenges.

Anyway he wont be around long

[ipswich express]

Carl seeking challenges, well that's to be determined...he's had enough time in the sport to land something. He could very well be doing a mundine and just talking about wanting challenges.

Anyway he wont be around long

:roll: Mate he's 24 fights in and just won his first world title...

[pecks]

When he steps up and loses to Kessler, then rematches him, then we can say he's more ballsier than Mundine.
Lets see him walk his talk before we start bringing judgement on his nuts.

[teke]

:roll: Mate he's 24 fights in and just won his first world title...His resume is moving at the speed of his punches :-(

[THN]

His resume is moving at the speed of his punches :-(

:rofl:rofl:rofl

[ipswich express]

His resume is moving at the speed of his punches :-(

Time is on his side. He hasn't been in wars. After 24 fights, his resume is light years ahead of Mikkel's at the same point. As I said about 30 posts ago, he's got the WBC strap now, it'll be decent fights from here on in, on the proviso he can keep it. It'll be fun watching, regardless. No doubt Mundine will be praying like fuck Abraham and Sturm can unify so he can swoop in for the 2nd tier title.... again.

[pecks]

Time is on his side. He hasn't been in wars. After 24 fights, his resume is light years ahead of Mikkel's at the same point. As I said about 30 posts ago, he's got the WBC strap now, it'll be decent fights from here on in, on the proviso he can keep it. It'll be fun watching, regardless. No doubt Mundine will be praying like fuck Abraham and Sturm can unify so he can swoop in for the 2nd tier title.... again.Kessler is only 29 now though, and probably has more years of boxing left in him than Froch does. The fact that he's only had 24 fights doesn't mean that much unless Kessler has experienced batterings in his fights, but thats not the case here.

[ipswich express]

My point is that Carl is only 2 years older and hasn't been in a single war apart from his last. He had an extensive amateur career however.

[THN]

I like Carl Froch, big mouth but ready to back it up. But I think he will loose first time he actually step up, to poor in any department.

[riggers]

Froch may have taken 6 years to get a title shot. He has been after one for 18 months though, and been ready for it too.

Mundine jumped in early against Ottke because he was feather fisted and near the end of his career.

Mundine would run so is not going to outscore Froch. Hes not going to ko him. Froch could and i think would ko him.

WHo would your UK v AUs matchups be through the divisions right now ?

[ipswich express]

Word on the street is that Jermain Taylor will be facing someone on the 28th of March, possibly Pascal, on Showtime. Froch is out for the time being. Winner to face Froch. A round robin at 168 is being mooted. Sounds like great news.

[Ed.]

WHo would your UK v AUs matchups be through the divisions right now ?
Mismatches! Can't pick an Aus to beat a Brit, sorry dude. :cool:

Word on the street is that Jermain Taylor will be facing someone on the 28th of March, possibly Pascal, on Showtime. Froch is out for the time being. Winner to face Froch. A round robin at 168 is being mooted. Sounds like great news.
News? Where?

[shanemfr]

Word on the street is that Jermain Taylor will be facing someone on the 28th of March, possibly Pascal, on Showtime. Froch is out for the time being. Winner to face Froch. A round robin at 168 is being mooted. Sounds like great news.
Kessler ass rapes em all, its for minor placings if he ain t involved.

[ipswich express]

Kessler, Abraham, Bute, Froch etc have all been mentioned.

[sallywinder]

Mismatches! Can't pick an Aus to beat a Brit, sorry dude.

a pom never won a fight over a bar of soap......


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[cockneyhardman]

I agree,

This fella here beats Mundine

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:lol::lol:

your right that guy froch is way over rated
i don't know much about him but when seeing a couple of his fights years ago and seeing how slugggish he was i never bothered watching him
i wouldn't be suprised if mundine beat him

[Marcus]

your right that guy froch is way over rated
i don't know much about him but when seeing a couple of his fights years ago and seeing how slugggish he was i never bothered watching him
i wouldn't be suprised if mundine beat him


I would be...Have you seen Mundine lately?

[roscoe]

Mandy will get his arse handed to him again if he fights an elite fighter. Look at the troubles he had with crazy kim & he's a nobody. Mandy is on the decline, looks no where as sharp as he use to.

[Robot16]

Mundine from a few years ago would have defeated Froch, but with Choc's recent comp id favour Froch.
Also Froch continues to fight with that winner's mentality.

But if Choc did fight tougher comp i would have favored him.

[Anenigma]

Mundine from a few years ago would have defeated Froch, but with Choc's recent comp id favour Froch.
Also Froch continues to fight with that winner's mentality.

But if Choc did fight tougher comp i would have favored him.

I Agree:good

[Robot16]

I Agree:good

Cheers mate:good

BTW who is that in your av?
Its like death boxing lol

[Anenigma]

Cheers mate:good

BTW who is that in your av?
Its like death boxing lol



That's me I'm a Clown:patsch

[Robot16]

That's me I'm a Clown:patsch

:lol:

[perfect jet]

I've been told the plan for Mundine is two more fights then Sturm.

Shannon, another one at 160 then Felix.

[ipswich express]

Interesting to see what Sturm is doing by then. He might finally be looking to unify. Probably not though.

[WhataRock]

I wouldnt be all that confident that Sturm will still even be champ then, if his patchy history is anything to go by.

[Francis75]

I've been told the plan for Mundine is two more fights then Sturm.

Shannon, another one at 160 then Felix.

So 7 tune up fights against journeymen isn't enough for Anthony. He needs another 2 before he fights Sturm does he ? :roll:

[LeonMcS]

Good to see you back Cruyffy-boy.

[Francis75]

Cheers Leon.

[ipswich express]

So 7 tune up fights against journeymen isn't enough for Anthony. He needs another 2 before he fights Sturm does he ? :roll:

Don't shoot the messenger :D

[Francis75]

Don't shoot the messenger :D

Ok sorry. My gun is back in the holster. :D

[p.Townend]

I think Mundine wins this one.Froch is decent but i dont think he is anywhere near as good as the press are making out.Yes Pascal is a good fighter but he is not rated in Boxing monthly top ten nor has he ever been(i think).So Mundine is a massive step up for Froch and i think he will do a number on him.The Pascal fight was good but it also exposed Froch a little,as in his power will not stop everyone and he can be hit and hurt.Imagine if that had been Kesler in with him which is not unreasonable as Mccraken and Froch have been telling anyone who will listen that Froch is the best at the weight for at least 12 months.I think Mundine by ko around 9.

[the beaver]

I think Mundine wins this one.Froch is decent but i dont think he is anywhere near as good as the press are making out.Yes Pascal is a good fighter but he is not rated in Boxing monthly top ten nor has he ever been(i think).So Mundine is a massive step up for Froch and i think he will do a number on him.The Pascal fight was good but it also exposed Froch a little,as in his power will not stop everyone and he can be hit and hurt.Imagine if that had been Kesler in with him which is not unreasonable as Mccraken and Froch have been telling anyone who will listen that Froch is the best at the weight for at least 12 months.I think Mundine by ko around 9.

The best Mundine could do against Froch is a pts decision. Mundine could or would not KO him.

Froch is extremely overrated but does have a hard head :yep

[THN]

The best Mundine could do against Froch is a pts decision. Mundine could or would not KO him.

Froch is extremely overrated but does have a hard head :yep
Yes and so are Mundine