GSP vs PENN

[thebrodstar]

Does GSP take it? A lot of people think so.

He won the first fight, but both fighters have improved greatly.

I am not really siding with either fighter. I find however, BJ has faced better fighters than GSP in the last two years.

Matt hughes (is he past his prime in thier second fight?) and Matt Serra, and Jon Fitch(his toughest fight in awhile).

I can guarantee that this will be a great fight. I think a lot of people have forgot how tough
BJ is though.

Big fight nonetheles.

[Koa]

I think Penn will have a better showing if he is as dedicated to this fight as he was his last fight.

Holy crap, both of them are fantastic fighters.

[Cameron]

gsp will own wait for see

[kingpwc]

bj........&...gsp....are incredible talents.....
Imo.....if bj is in shape...&...dedicated...bj wins..
My personal thought...is it will be over before the end of the 2nd..
Wouldn't be suprised if it's by ko/tko...

[hopkinsfan07]

GSP has been gun shy since Serra, i think Penn stops him with punches

[castle]

I like the both of them and cant make up my mind who will win but it should be a great match and can't wait to see it

[Grievesy]

Penn wants this fight, he's dedicated and will (hopefully) come in fit and ready. I'm taking BJ by TKO in the 3rd.

[québecwarrior]

GSP has been gun shy since Serra, i think Penn stops him with punches
GSP has been gun shy???
You mean on his feet?:lol: He completly picked apart Fitch there, when everybody was saying GSP was scared and even Fitch said that. We all saw what happen.

[Grievesy]

GSP has been gun shy???
You mean on his feet?:lol: He completly picked apart Fitch there, when everybody was saying GSP was scared and even Fitch said that. We all saw what happen.

Because Fitch is a devastating striker, isn't he? I wouldn't take so much from him dominating wrestlers on his feet.

[BewareofDawg]

I have a feeling this will be the first time we really see BJ....ah fuck it, I have no idea what's gonna happen. I'm leaning towards GSP by stoppage though. I want BJ to win, but GSP is too big, strong and dynamic.

[québecwarrior]

Because Fitch is a devastating striker, isn't he? I wouldn't take so much from him dominating wrestlers on his feet.
I would really like to know what point do you try to bring:huh
Where did I say Fitch was a devastating striker? try again please

It's still Fitch who said GSP was scared on his feet, we all saw what happen.
And Penn doesnt have much more power in his hands than Fitch. Penn don't have heavy hand like people try to say it. He don't knock people around with his hands.

If you really think that GSP is scared of Penn's standing, you are funny

[BewareofDawg]

I think Penn is the better striker then Fitch

[québecwarrior]

I think Penn is the better striker then Fitch
without a doubt, he is clearly better than Fitch on his feet, different level.
I was just trying to say that Penn isnt a KO artist with his hands. Great knees yes, but I was just bringing the power matter.

[AJAX]

I think you will see the best of both fighters that night but B.J. just won't be able to handle GSP....I'm hoping he get's the finish.

[québecwarrior]

I think you will see the best of both fighters that night but B.J. just won't be able to handle GSP....I'm hoping he get's the finish.
Yeah, GSP being the first man to REALLY stop Penn, with no crazy injury, would be my best moment since watching MMA.
It would be awesome

[jimmie]

GSP isnt going to wanna stand with BJ Penn its to dangerous he wont wanna be KOed agian thats why hes tried to go for takedowns constantly in all of his fights then exept for Fitch whos just a medicore striker at best. BJ already dominated GSP in the standup once and this time his cardio will be alot better he will stuff more of GSPs takedowns and start catching him with knees shooting in. BJ Penn with catch him with a good one drop him and finish him off with a submission ala Matt Hughes style he hurts him has him go into a ball and boom finish the motherfucker.

[québecwarrior]

GSP isnt going to wanna stand with BJ Penn its to dangerous he wont wanna be KOed agian thats why hes tried to go for takedowns constantly in all of his fights then exept for Fitch whos just a medicore striker at best. BJ already dominated GSP in the standup once and this time his cardio will be alot better he will stuff more of GSPs takedowns and start catching him with knees shooting in. BJ Penn with catch him with a good one drop him and finish him off with a submission ala Matt Hughes style he hurts him has him go into a ball and boom finish the motherfucker.
BJ didnt dominate GSP on his feet, GSP landed more, don't let the face fool you boy:rasta

Wow, i'm pumped for this fight, finally, a fight who will bring big emotion on this board.

Just sad for people in Penn's fan club:deal

[AJAX]

BJ didnt dominate GSP on his feet, GSP landed more, don't let the face fool you boy:rasta

Wow, i'm pumped for this fight, finally, a fight who will bring big emotion on this board.

Just sad for people in Penn's fan club:deal

"Did you see GSP's face" that's what alot of experts point to when they talk of how B.J. dominated GSP on his feet. It was from an eye poke and a punch that grazed his nose which caused the bleeding. GSP will have no prob standing with Penn....and maybe just to proove a point.

[québecwarrior]

"Did you see GSP's face" that's what alot of experts point to when they talk of how B.J. dominated GSP on his feet. It was from an eye poke and a punch that grazed his nose which caused the bleeding. GSP will have no prob standing with Penn....and maybe just to proove a point.
Actually, I wouldnt be surprised, if GSP want to keep the fight standing for the first round. But I wouldnt like that, the plan should be to to tire him out, with a lot of clinch, just to mandhandle him on the fence, with his great strenght

[Grievesy]

I would really like to know what point do you try to bring:huh
Where did I say Fitch was a devastating striker? try again please

It's still Fitch who said GSP was scared on his feet, we all saw what happen.
And Penn doesnt have much more power in his hands than Fitch. Penn don't have heavy hand like people try to say it. He don't knock people around with his hands.

If you really think that GSP is scared of Penn's standing, you are funny

You said that GSP picked apart Fitch on his feet. What I was getting at was that saying GSP is great on his feet or is not gun-shy then backing up the point by saying he picked apart someone who, let's be honest, is not a striker, just doesn't work.

Saying Penn doesn't have much more power in his hands than Fitch is a joke. How does he not have heavy hands? He outstruck and bloodied Sean Sherk then knocked him out. He knocked down Stevenson in the first seconds of their bout. He made GSP look like he'd been through 3 hard rounds after just 1. Then there are the brutal KO's that he scored at the beginning of his career.

I haven't said anywhere that GSP is scared of BJ standing. What I will say though, is that if he has a brain he will know that to win he is going to have to take BJ down and pound on him.

[québecwarrior]

Stevenson has a SHIT chin, a fuckin WEAK chin, ALWAY hurt in each fight. If fuckin Jason Von Flue, can put him on queer street, that tell you a lot
He bloodied Sherk, with jabs, because of reach advantage, and his face was messed up, because Sherk has a skin whose not thick, again. then knock him out with his KNEE.

People always love to point out GSP's chin and bla bla bla that he has a glass chin, which is completly retarded, well, Penn caught him with good shot in the first round, how come he didnt get knocked out? he didnt even blink.

If GSP want to win the fight standing, he could. He has the tool for it, it would just be stupid, 'cause of his talent with takedown, and his ground game.

[Grievesy]

Stevenson has a SHIT chin, a fuckin WEAK chin, ALWAY hurt in each fight.
He bloodied Sherk, with jabs, because of reach advantage, and his face was messed up, because Sherk has a skin whose not thick, again. then knock him out with his KNEE.

People always love to point out GSP's chin and bla bla bla that he has a glass chin, which is completly retarded, well, Penn caught him with good shot in the first round, how come he didnt get knocked out? he didnt even blink.

If GSP want to win the fight standing, he could. He has the tool for it, it would just be stupid, 'cause of his talent with takedown, and his ground game.

Actually BJ rocked Sherk with a punch THEN kneed him in the face. And what evidence is there that Stevenson has a shit chin? He's been knocked out once and that was by Jens Pulver.

GSP may have an OK chin but if he gets hit in the temple, like I think he did in the Serra fight, he's fucked. You saw his reaction, he was fucked and could never get his balance back.

And you say you wish people would stop saying BJ dominated GSP in the stand up. Ok, he didn't dominate but he did win, I felt quite comfortably. But I'd also wish you guys would not always just say 'he was poked in the eye'. If he was why didn't he stop? Why didn't he tell the referee? It didn't look like a poke to me. Looked like a jab. And the cut was BELOW the eye. I think GSP was pawing at the cut that was in a very uncomfortable position.

[Boyd]

this will be my first live UFC show. i picked a great one. i hope GSP pulls it off.

[Dostoevsky]

I expect BJ to lose, but not before he delivers (hopefully) some considerable amount of punishment to the face of that frenchie.

[québecwarrior]

Actually BJ rocked Sherk with a punch THEN kneed him in the face. And what evidence is there that Stevenson has a shit chin? He's been knocked out once and that was by Jens Pulver.

GSP may have an OK chin but if he gets hit in the temple, like I think he did in the Serra fight, he's fucked. You saw his reaction, he was fucked and could never get his balance back.

And you say you wish people would stop saying BJ dominated GSP in the stand up. Ok, he didn't dominate but he did win, I felt quite comfortably. But I'd also wish you guys would not always just say 'he was poked in the eye'. If he was why didn't he stop? Why didn't he tell the referee? It didn't look like a poke to me. Looked like a jab. And the cut was BELOW the eye. I think GSP was pawing at the cut that was in a very uncomfortable position.
Stevenson has great recovery but his chin is very poor
Cummo hurted him, Jason Von Flue did,Neer did, Penn did and if I aint mistaken, Pellegrino did, but I dont remember well.

GSP didnt react well, that's a fact, that was the first time of his career, an experience. Don't mean it will be the same thing next time he got caught
He did win the contest standing, but that was tight, GSP did landed more, but BJ landed the hardest shot. And rewatch the replay, Penn did poke him in the eye, in an interview, Penn admit it when he was implying that people think of him like a cheater but was saying other use 'roid.

[québecwarrior]

I expect BJ to lose, but not before he delivers (hopefully) some considerable amount of punishment to the face of that frenchie.
dumbass

[Sweet Pea]

I'm taking GSP by either decision or late TKO in the championship rounds (4 or 5). Through 3 rounds I expect the bout to be very close, though I honestly don't know what to expect in terms of who will be in control or how the bout will unfold. Both fighters are just too good and too skilled to really know. Ultimately I just see GSP's strength and stamina pulling it out for him in the final rounds.

[Dostoevsky]

dumbass

Shut your fucking snail hole you onion munching, frogleg eating beret wearing fruit-faggot.

[Grievesy]

Shut your fucking snail hole you onion munching, frogleg eating beret wearing fruit-faggot.
:rofl:rofl

[québecwarrior]

Shut your fucking snail hole you onion munching, frogleg eating beret wearing fruit-faggot.
It's nice to see that one of your 14 post a day, you are using it to play it like an hard man.

Keep it up

[Tyga]

Imo.....if bj is in shape...&...dedicated...bj wins.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Vitor Belfort]

This is a good fight. Both are pretty much even talent wise. I give GSP an advantage standing and i give penn advantage on the ground. Both have improved since their first fight but penn has fix his only weakness and that was his cardio. During the penn-sherk fight, penn look fresh even after the 3rd round so i think he will be able to g 5 rounds with gsp. I do expect penn to try for takedowns and try to submit gsp cuz if the fights end up to be striking, gsp might win by decision.

[AJAX]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

well if you think it's as simple as that you will be mistaken.:bbb

[jimmie]

Stevenson has a SHIT chin, a fuckin WEAK chin, ALWAY hurt in each fight. If fuckin Jason Von Flue, can put him on queer street, that tell you a lot
He bloodied Sherk, with jabs, because of reach advantage, and his face was messed up, because Sherk has a skin whose not thick, again. then knock him out with his KNEE.

People always love to point out GSP's chin and bla bla bla that he has a glass chin, which is completly retarded, well, Penn caught him with good shot in the first round, how come he didnt get knocked out? he didnt even blink.

If GSP want to win the fight standing, he could. He has the tool for it, it would just be stupid, 'cause of his talent with takedown, and his ground game.

Stevenson ill agree doesnt have a iron chin but weak shit chin or whatever you call it isnt exactly true. Why is this because hes been hurt a bunch of times ? Nogueira has been dropped in like 10 fights but only stopped once past his best noboddy calls his chin weak. Stevenson has been stopped in 1 fight that I know of when he was like 17 years old fighting Jens Pulver who we all know hits like a tank.

[québecwarrior]

Stevenson ill agree doesnt have a iron chin but weak shit chin or whatever you call it isnt exactly true. Why is this because hes been hurt a bunch of times ? Nogueira has been dropped in like 10 fights but only stopped once past his best noboddy calls his chin weak. Stevenson has been stopped in 1 fight that I know of when he was like 17 years old fighting Jens Pulver who we all know hits like a tank.
Chin and recovery skill are different for me
I've said it that his recovery skill are very good, but his chin, dont help him at all.

[jimmie]

Chin and recovery skill are different for me
I've said it that his recovery skill are very good, but his chin, dont help him at all.

Well it dont take much to be hurt in MMA your basically being hit with a wraped hand.

[québecwarrior]

Well it dont take much to be hurt in MMA your basically being hit with a wraped hand.
you got a point, but Stevenson, who has a real good base of boxing, with good power, don't have the chin to hold to take some punch, and seem to always choke finally, vs good opponent.
It's a shame though, very talented.

[chimba]

Im taking BJ. No diss to GSP, the guy is great.

Its mental toughness, thats where BJ has an edge.

I think GSP can grind out a decision.

There are two things certain in this fight..BJ will not be submitted and he will not be koed..Im not so sure if GSP can avoid both fate

[québecwarrior]

Im taking BJ. No diss to GSP, the guy is great.

Its mental toughness, thats where BJ has an edge.

I think GSP can grind out a decision.

There are two things certain in this fight..BJ will not be submitted and he will not be koed..Im not so sure if GSP can avoid both fate
Evans was not supposed to KO Liddell though:hey:hey:hey

[Spunik]

I think GSP should win....however Penn may be more game....

[chimba]

Evans was not supposed to KO Liddell though:hey:hey:hey

Sure he could. Rashads explosive and Chucks been Koed before.
With BJ there is no precedents. He eliminates a couple of outcomes already when you fight him. He wont lose by sub, he would be Koed, you can even add that he wont tap.

What does that leave GSP? Decision and ref stoppage. He can win by those.

BJ can win by sub, KO, Stoppage and decision being the least likely

If GSP wins, he will earn it and he is a classy guy as well, its good to see guys like him on top of the sport

[AJAX]

B.J. got crucified and stopped by Hughes....so it can happen......and the B.J. excuse club will not be allowed at this fight. ;)

[jimmie]

Sure he could. Rashads explosive and Chucks been Koed before.
With BJ there is no precedents. He eliminates a couple of outcomes already when you fight him. He wont lose by sub, he would be Koed, you can even add that he wont tap.

What does that leave GSP? Decision and ref stoppage. He can win by those.

BJ can win by sub, KO, Stoppage and decision being the least likely

If GSP wins, he will earn it and he is a classy guy as well, its good to see guys like him on top of the sport

GSPs classiness is so overatted. Hes such an excuse maker go watch the extras on the UFC 50 DVD he tells Matt Hughes to his face "I didnt sleep for 2 days" what a bitch. Then he tells Serra no excuses until a few weeks later we hear all about his personal problems headed in. No you lost because it was your night.

[chimba]

GSPs classiness is so overatted. Hes such an excuse maker go watch the extras on the UFC 50 DVD he tells Matt Hughes to his face "I didnt sleep for 2 days" what a bitch. Then he tells Serra no excuses until a few weeks later we hear all about his personal problems headed in. No you lost because it was your night.

I think he is genuinely a nice guy but , hes just not in your face who tells it straight up therefore he has a tendency to flip flop and sound whiny. BJ is a great guy but hes brash. Might not be a poster boy like GSP but I can guarantee you, hes much more fun to hang out with

[chimba]

B.J. got crucified and stopped by Hughes....so it can happen......and the B.J. excuse club will not be allowed at this fight. ;)

thats was a stoppage not KO.

[jimmie]

B.J. got crucified and stopped by Hughes....so it can happen......and the B.J. excuse club will not be allowed at this fight. ;)

Ever had a broken rib ? I can say from experience the shit aint fun.

[hopkinsfan07]

B.J. got crucified and stopped by Hughes....so it can happen......and the B.J. excuse club will not be allowed at this fight. ;)


:rofl did you see that fight, Hughes pinned his arms and took free shots intill the ref had to step in, B.J was not even hurt

[zizou10-5]

I read GSP is not training too hard, BJ Penn will probably win this.....easy.

[scurlaruntings]

I read GSP is not training too hard, BJ Penn will probably win this.....easy.I heard cold potatoes aren't hot.

[québecwarrior]

GSPs classiness is so overatted. Hes such an excuse maker go watch the extras on the UFC 50 DVD he tells Matt Hughes to his face "I didnt sleep for 2 days" what a bitch. Then he tells Serra no excuses until a few weeks later we hear all about his personal problems headed in. No you lost because it was your night.
damn that you are angry at GSP:lol: its not the first time you take personal hit at him, what did he do to you? too good and canadian?
Must be the patriotism huh?

i'll be more than happy when your boy got beat, again, and be 1-3 at welterweight:good

[jimmie]

damn that you are angry at GSP:lol: its not the first time you take personal hit at him, what did he do to you? too good and canadian?
Must be the patriotism huh?

i'll be more than happy when your boy got beat, again, and be 1-3 at welterweight:good

He would actually be 2-2 cause GSP never beat him.

[Dantes]

I like both guys. If I had to pick I'd say GSP just because I feel he is a better overall athlete and will have what it takes to step it up and finish.

Not to take anything away from BJ as I respect the hell out of the guy. This is a fight I wouldn't put money on because I don't want to back against either guy.

[The Prodigy]

Its great to see a fight where it is not just a case of "what round is so and so going to get knocked out in" :happy

I think BJ will be training like a man posessed for this and will have enough to win BUT I would never rule out GSP totally and would not be surprised if he is just too big and too strong for Penn.Either way we get to see 2 of the best competitors in MMA today, so whatever happens the fight should be a classic:deal