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Big N Bad
01-04-2009, 10:31 AM
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Rico Spadafora
01-04-2009, 10:37 AM
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hardly any of the guys in MMA do.
He had no problem landing a pinpoint accurate 3 punch combination on Silvia who was much taller than Fedor.
Silvia also has a much better Chin than Andre and Fedor will shatter his Glass Jaw.
Big N Bad
01-04-2009, 10:56 AM
hardly any of the guys in MMA do.
He had no problem landing a pinpoint accurate 3 punch combination on Silvia who was much taller than Fedor.
Silvia also has a much better Chin than Andre and Fedor will shatter his Glass Jaw.
yeah, im hoping for another highlight reel stoppage!
Grievesy
01-04-2009, 10:58 AM
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It's true he doesn't. But fuck it, it works.
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
scurlaruntings
01-04-2009, 11:01 AM
Well we know that. Thats hardly revolutionary. What Roach fails to realise is striking in MMA is entirely diffrent. Its all well and good taking a boxing stance and throwing punches like a boxer but because of the traditional stance that leaves you wide open for an easy single leg or double leg takedown. Fedor like his brother throws very wide and looping strikes but Fedors game isnt his standup its his ground work.
People talk about proper punching technique. I'm starting to believe looping punches are superior to straight punches without boxing gloves, especially when you have to defend against a takedown and a punch..
If you could picture a takedown feint, you shoot your arms down to stuff it, and the right hand is just looping right over your shoulder to knock you the fuck out.. Its hard to throw a straight punch when your postured to go for a takedown. And its impossible to have your hands and arms low to stuff a takedown and defend against a punch at the same time.. Very simple, very effective. It works.
He doesn't need proper technique the way he punches, he throws fast, hard bombs that set up a takedown or a ko like Sylvia,Goodridge,zulu etc.
Griip
01-04-2009, 01:15 PM
Just discussing this statement is fucking moronic. This Roachguy said this ONLY to make a headline and it holds 0% truth to it.
Just discussing this statement is fucking moronic. This Roachguy said this ONLY to make a headline and it holds 0% truth to it.
well, he is refering to "proper boxing technique" which Fedor doesn't really have but like most people have posted it really doesn't matter in MMA if you have proper technique it's how you use it for your fighting style which Fedor does excellent.
Sweet Pea
01-04-2009, 01:22 PM
Proper boxing technique is hardly even relevant in MMA. Fedor's punches are very quick and accurate, and they get the job done. That's all that matters.
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Not bad for a guy with no technique Freddie, he almost decapitated poor ole' Timmy.
québecwarrior
01-04-2009, 01:27 PM
Don't matter, he has enough speed in his hands, to prepare his takedown
ShadowWorks
01-04-2009, 01:47 PM
It is completely unimportant how a human punchers, if they are accurate and powerful that is all that counts in the real word, Arlovski even with a big beard will crumble like a digestive in a cup of hot PG Tips from one Fedorian Punch.
Spunik
01-04-2009, 03:51 PM
Roach--master of the obvious...
He's still the greatest fighter in Mixed Martial Arts history. So whatever he's doing must be working.
Tuffnutz
01-04-2009, 09:07 PM
Ive seen Fedor put some pretty good combos together in many of his fight's and that's just with his boxing.
Fedor does have some good boxing and he hit's pretty fucking hard regardless of his KO percentage.
The man can throw bombs standing and posses the most vicious G & P punching in the world.
I was even impressed with the little shadow boxing combo he threw just before he stepped in the ring to face Sylvia.
You could see from that alone that he had power and knew how to put punches together.
Then 5 minutes later he wrecked Big Tim with some hard punches.
Also Freddy needs to STFU about striking.
Hes a boxing trainner and not an MMA based Muay Thai trainner.
Freddy saying that Fedor has no boxing technique is an insult.
Freddy will see how good his boxing is when he drops Arlovski then finishes him.
I would'nt be suprised if Fedor dropped Arlovski and put him to sleep tbh.
ufoalf
01-04-2009, 09:16 PM
Freddie has never seen Fedor box. End of story.
Spunik
01-04-2009, 10:54 PM
it's interesting that Roach even felt it was worthy to comment on such a lower level sport.....:yep
MaliSlamusrex
01-05-2009, 06:15 AM
Fedor swings like a mad man and doesnt protect his chin, but its hard to KO the guy and if one of those hooks lands there is a good chance he will ko his opponent so its good technique for mma awful for boxing.
ufoalf
01-05-2009, 07:12 PM
Fedor's punching style is called something like chaining, I am not sure of the exact English translation. The techniques have evolved from Russian Systema martial art. Punches are thrown wide and looping to compensate for lack of footing, such as ice covered surfaces, quite common in Russia!
Evidently it works in many fight senarios. WINK WINK!!!
Everyone of his punches is for KO. He said it himself. You don't need much boxing technique in MMA because of the gloves you need to be the first one to stun your opponent and then its all you.
His punches are called "Russian hooks" They were developed from poor scoring receivers which forced fighters to turn their fist so that palm faces outward. This way you can have much more distance to your punch, they will loop in a way to get behind your opponents gloves landing lead knuckles first. While it scored the points, it also turned out to be an effective punching technique, but its quite hard on your shoulders and elbows I think.
It is I tried sparring and hitting the bag with that method and i really had a hard time with it. Igor Vochanchyn(bad spelling) was the first Russian punch like that so I assumed it was a Russian thing because not many guys punch like that.
theunderdog
01-06-2009, 01:23 AM
to sum up, it's true and it does not matter. close thread
Shareef
01-06-2009, 02:04 AM
I personally think Fedor is a good puncher especially in mma. You do not need stereotypical textbook punching to be a good puncher or effective striker. Even in boxing every boxer has there own flavor whatever works works simple as that. Fedor has quick hands and has good natural pop in his punches. Bottom line is Fedor does what he needs to win whether its hurting his opponent standing up then submitting or whatever he gets the job done. Roach is becoming a str8 up attention whore btw.
achillesthegreat
01-06-2009, 08:33 AM
It's true that technically he could do with some refinement. Don't agree with some of what Freddy says though.
Griip
01-06-2009, 08:54 AM
It's true that technically he could do with some refinement.
And how would you know?
Everyone should remember that Fedor is right now as great and dominant as the biggest boxing legends out there. Or even bigger. The man has 0 defeats in a sport where it is more common than in boxing that you loss now and then. That have happened to all other great fighters today, mostly because of the "problem" with style vs style. Fedor has taken a piss on that problem and almost slaughtered most of his opponents.
BewareofDawg
01-06-2009, 12:40 PM
Fedor KO1 Roach
achillesthegreat
01-06-2009, 02:43 PM
And how would you know?
Everyone should remember that Fedor is right now as great and dominant as the biggest boxing legends out there. Or even bigger. The man has 0 defeats in a sport where it is more common than in boxing that you loss now and then. That have happened to all other great fighters today, mostly because of the "problem" with style vs style. Fedor has taken a piss on that problem and almost slaughtered most of his opponents.
Because I've trained many boxers albeit at a low level. Nevertheless, I know what I'm talking about and would happy to debate the technical flaws to back up what I'm saying.
Ali was the greatest heavyweight of all time but his boxing technique still left much to be desired. Technically Ali could be horrible. Being great and dominant has absolutely nothing to do with Fedor being a technically flawed puncher.
You've simply got your pants in a twist.
Griip
01-06-2009, 02:57 PM
Oh but I don't think you understand what I mean.
Who are YOU to define what good or bad technique is? THere's no right or wrong, there's just some dude that's the greatest MMA champ ever and then there's you with your ideas.
scurlaruntings
01-06-2009, 03:30 PM
Oh but I don't think you understand what I mean.
Who are YOU to define what good or bad technique is? THere's no right or wrong, there's just some dude that's the greatest MMA champ ever and than there's you with your ideas.:lol: He`s got a point! You still a trainer of champions Achilles?:yep
Iceveins
01-06-2009, 04:06 PM
Fedor has no technique yet nobody can go toe to toe with him...nobody can hurt him with a strike...and well, nobody can BEAT him.
Shutup Freddie.
scurlaruntings
01-06-2009, 04:30 PM
Fujita had him wobbly as hell :-)
Iceveins
01-06-2009, 04:39 PM
Fujita had him wobbly as hell :-)
ha, thought that would go unnoticed I was actually gonna say "except for Fujita" lol...he sure did have him ice skating with that temple shot. But since Fedor ended that fight about a minute later I have to call that wobbling a fluke. That was just a ploy by Fedor to trick people in to thinking he is human.
québecwarrior
01-06-2009, 04:46 PM
And Cro Crop as well had him hurt one time, not as bad as Fujita, but he was hurt
Iceveins
01-06-2009, 05:04 PM
And Cro Crop as well had him hurt one time, not as bad as Fujita, but he was hurt
Yea it was a straight left that broke his nose.
Seemingly hurt for about 10 seconds. Then was fine thereafter. Guy is a subhumanoid.
Hermit
01-06-2009, 07:13 PM
Roach trains guys to a rigid rule set that only allows certain punches. I'd hope they would be better at it. :D
achillesthegreat
01-07-2009, 04:11 AM
:lol: He`s got a point! You still a trainer of champions Achilles?:yep
As much as you are the next Ronnie Coleman.
achillesthegreat
01-07-2009, 04:14 AM
Oh but I don't think you understand what I mean.
Who are YOU to define what good or bad technique is? THere's no right or wrong, there's just some dude that's the greatest MMA champ ever and then there's you with your ideas.
What absolute bollocks. Firstly, it doesn't work like that or this whole forum is pointless as we are assessing fighters from different perspectives, including technique.
Just because Ali is the greatest, does that mean his word on boxing technique would be gospel? Obviously not.
The stupid thing here is that you claim you have to be a somebody to make comments. Arguably the best boxing coach in the world is the one who made the inital comments so there goes your argument.
You can question Freddie Roach but I can't question Fedor. Pathetic.
dwilson
01-07-2009, 07:30 AM
Fedor seems to get away with it though.
Griip
01-07-2009, 08:12 AM
What absolute bollocks. Firstly, it doesn't work like that or this whole forum is pointless as we are assessing fighters from different perspectives, including technique.
Just because Ali is the greatest, does that mean his word on boxing technique would be gospel? Obviously not.
The stupid thing here is that you claim you have to be a somebody to make comments. Arguably the best boxing coach in the world is the one who made the inital comments so there goes your argument.
You can question Freddie Roach but I can't question Fedor. Pathetic.
I'm not questioning Roach, that's the point. He's the one making a statement, not me. I'm just saying it's bullshit, as do everyon else if you haven't noticed. Why is it bullshit? Because it's like telling Usain Bolt he should train this or that more to run faster(Bolt = the best sprinter ever lived).
scurlaruntings
01-07-2009, 08:16 AM
Fedor seems to get away with it though.Where on earth do you get all your avatars from? :lol:
achillesthegreat
01-07-2009, 08:53 AM
I'm not questioning Roach, that's the point. He's the one making a statement, not me. I'm just saying it's bullshit, as do everyon else if you haven't noticed. Why is it bullshit? Because it's like telling Usain Bolt he should train this or that more to run faster(Bolt = the best sprinter ever lived).
Your logic is flawed. Just because you are the best doesn't mean you are flawless. We are humans thus naturally flawed and always will be. We can continously strive for perfection even if we are the best at something.
I don't see everyone else saying it is bs. I think some people have got sensitive because it's Fedor. Those people should grow up and accept he is human.
Griip
01-07-2009, 09:21 AM
Your logic is flawed. Just because you are the best doesn't mean you are flawless. We are humans thus naturally flawed and always will be. We can continously strive for perfection even if we are the best at something.
I don't see everyone else saying it is bs. I think some people have got sensitive because it's Fedor. Those people should grow up and accept he is human.
I am not saying Fedor is flawless. I am saying that Roach(or you) don't know where his flaws is. I'm sure Fedor knows in what areas his weak etc etc, but I don't think that you do.
And nobody here is "sensitive" about Fedor. Few people consider themselfs to be Fedor-fans because there's really no option, everyone HAS to like Fedor because he's simply so fucking great, he doesn't even have a worthy rival in a time where MMA is as big as it has ever been.
Iceveins
01-07-2009, 11:42 AM
He doesn't even have a worthy rival in a time where MMA is as big as it has ever been.
True indeed...Every fight I have seen from Fedor he has either dominated or controlled from start to finish.
I haven't seen every single fight of his so I'm wondering who you think his biggest challenge to date is? Cro Cop?
Proper boxing technique is hardly even relevant in MMA. Fedor's punches are very quick and accurate, and they get the job done. That's all that matters.
Technique! Compared to what? Or who. Fedor uses the proper strikes to land on his oppnant. That is one of the problems with people who come from a technical boxing background and look at MMA. I have a friend who I used to box with that continues to coach boxing who doesn't see the skill. I boxed and took Karate as well . You just cannot stay in the pocket and throw combinations in mma
I think that if arlovsky can pull off a Lyota Machida he has a chance.
achillesthegreat
01-07-2009, 02:17 PM
I am not saying Fedor is flawless. I am saying that Roach(or you) don't know where his flaws is. I'm sure Fedor knows in what areas his weak etc etc, but I don't think that you do.
And nobody here is "sensitive" about Fedor. Few people consider themselfs to be Fedor-fans because there's really no option, everyone HAS to like Fedor because he's simply so fucking great, he doesn't even have a worthy rival in a time where MMA is as big as it has ever been.
This is nonsense. As great as Fedor is, it can easily be argued that we can objectively assess him when it would be highly unlikely he would be able to do that to himself.
I think people are being sensitive or at least wearing blinkers. It is clear to see that Fedors punching technique is questionable. Just because he is so good doesn't mean his technique is flawless. His striking has been successful and devastating against certain fighters. It's his wrestling, subbing etc that is the genuinely impressive side of him. He always finds an answer but he could still improve.
Everyone has a right to assess Fedor, as long as its logical. I sure as hell think that arguably the best boxing coach in the world can assess his striking. Roach is right but I disagree with how strong his words are. To say no technique is silly but technically he could be refined.
Fedor doesn't have a worthy rival at the moment but there have been rivals (Couture) and there will be rivals (Lesnar or Mir).
You would be wise not to say Fedor doesn't have to change anything or like Bolt bettered Johnson, someone could come and better Fedor because Fedor left stones unturned and didn't do everything he could to be the best he could.
Griip
01-07-2009, 02:46 PM
Still it's not about if he can get better or not, ofcourse he can become better. But I'm sure you need to understand his style of fighting before you can try to improve it more than he can himself. And Roach for example has little to no clue about Fedors style of striking, otherwise he wouldn't come with such an idiotic statement.
Griip
01-07-2009, 02:50 PM
True indeed...Every fight I have seen from Fedor he has either dominated or controlled from start to finish.
I haven't seen every single fight of his so I'm wondering who you think his biggest challenge to date is? Cro Cop?
Yeah I'd say so. First time I watched that fight I thought it was a very good fight with a chance of Crocop winning the decision. Second and third time I watched it I changed my mind though, even if Crocop gave him a great fight both on the ground and standing up. I think i've seen all of his fights but can't remember really who gave him the best challenge, hard to say when he beat them all :P
achillesthegreat
01-07-2009, 04:33 PM
Still it's not about if he can get better or not, ofcourse he can become better. But I'm sure you need to understand his style of fighting before you can try to improve it more than he can himself. And Roach for example has little to no clue about Fedors style of striking, otherwise he wouldn't come with such an idiotic statement.
And for the record: Couture has never been a "rival" at all. He's been a big name in America, during a time when ALL the great HW fighters were fighting in a different org in a different country. UFC never owned the top HWs and probably never will. Couture is or was a great fighter sure, but I doubt he'd have anything to say during the 2-3 years when it was all about Nog, Fedor and Crocop. + during that time Pride had it's own fighters fighting to become a top challenger(Barnett, Hunt, Schilt, Herring, Aleksander, Fujita, Randleman). Thinking Sylvia who was the top dog of UFC during this time would stand a chance against any of theese men is at least to me(I know some will disagree) nonsense.
So you think Fedor is the only person in the world who can make himself better? That is ridiculous.
I understand Fedor has a particular style which he believes is right but it is still perfectly logical for Roach and myself to disagree with his punching technique and believe he could achieve more with some technical adjustments. There is nothing to gauge who understands Fedors style enough to make an assessment as it is all opinion. Many great fighters couldn't understand their work. Jack Dempsey wasn't very clued about what went into his style and he said so when he went about writing a book on how to box.
Roach went too far in his assessment. I agree with that but he is just trying to stir shit.
Couture was a rival. That isn't up for discussion. Even Fedor recognised that. Couture aged like fine wine, much like Hopkins. Sure at one point he wasnt as touted but at a particualr stage he was Fedors biggest rival. I don't think Nog and Cro would beat Couture.
Nevertheless, back to our discussion. I find your argument totally illogical.
Griip
01-07-2009, 06:54 PM
Still it's not about if he can get better or not, ofcourse he can become better. But I'm sure you need to understand his style of fighting before you can try to improve it more than he can himself. And Roach for example has little to no clue about Fedors style of striking, otherwise he wouldn't come with such an idiotic statement.
hmm.. happened to edit instead of quote :happy well there it is.
Stop implying I'm saying stuff I'm not, thank you.
achillesthegreat
01-08-2009, 04:28 AM
hmm.. happened to edit instead of quote :happy well there it is.
Stop implying I'm saying stuff I'm not, thank you.
What I said still stands. Your argument is silly one as I have explained.
Griip
01-08-2009, 07:40 AM
You changed nothing in the last 2 posts concerning the discussion, just so you know.
Nevertheless, I know what I'm talking about and would happy to debate the technical flaws to back up what I'm saying.
Bring it on.
MMAFIGHTER1
01-08-2009, 09:26 AM
fedor may not have good boxing fundamentals but...shit this isnt boxing and he isnt a boxer his style works execellent 4 him so u cant knock it. ps im rooting 4 AA!
achillesthegreat
01-08-2009, 02:12 PM
You changed nothing in the last 2 posts concerning the discussion, just so you know.
Bring it on.
Not true. Your premise has been ridiculous from the start. It smells of fanboy to me. I made an assessment of Fedors technique. An assessment I am fully entitled to make. You disagreeing is as I said - ridiculous.
Feel free to detail his style and how he isn't technically incorrect. Feel free to write whatever and I'll return my thoughts.
The Mighty One
01-08-2009, 02:32 PM
Yeah and neither Klitchko has the submission techniques either.
Hermit
01-08-2009, 02:51 PM
Not true. Your premise has been ridiculous from the start. It smells of fanboy to me. I made an assessment of Fedors technique. An assessment I am fully entitled to make. You disagreeing is as I said - ridiculous.
Feel free to detail his style and how he isn't technically incorrect. Feel free to write whatever and I'll return my thoughts.
The history of MMA is pretty much 'what works'. It has been a sorting out process.
ufoalf
01-08-2009, 04:14 PM
The history of MMA is pretty much 'what works'. It has been a sorting out process.
:deal:deal
In MMA here is no "technically correct", its what works. What works IS technically correct. Fedor's is displaying poor Kung Fu technique... then again he's not doing Kung Fu.
FINITO
01-08-2009, 04:43 PM
He's 100% correct. That's why they resort to humping on the floor.
Griip
01-08-2009, 04:44 PM
Not true. Your premise has been ridiculous from the start. It smells of fanboy to me. I made an assessment of Fedors technique. An assessment I am fully entitled to make. You disagreeing is as I said - ridiculous.
Feel free to detail his style and how he isn't technically incorrect. Feel free to write whatever and I'll return my thoughts.
Feel free to detail his style and how he isn't technically incorrect? Feel free to write whatever? And you'll return your thoughts?
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Not bad for a guy with no technique Freddie, he almost decapitated poor ole' Timmy.
Imagine if those hooks were short and compact, there would have been no need for a submission. Roach is right, that's horrible as far as technique goes. He gets away with it though, so it's not much of an issue.
ufoalf
01-08-2009, 05:10 PM
Imagine if those hooks were short and compact, there would have been no need for a submission. Roach is right, that's horrible as far as technique goes. He gets away with it though, so it's not much of an issue.
If those hooks were short and compact he would've been jabbed to death by Sylvia. Sylvia eats short and compact. See Arlovski-Sylvia 3, as far as I remember Arlovski was throwing pretty compact and short, too bad they were hitting dust.
Hermit
01-08-2009, 05:13 PM
Imagine if those hooks were short and compact, there would have been no need for a submission. Roach is right, that's horrible as far as technique goes. He gets away with it though, so it's not much of an issue.
Arthur Abraham started throwing pretty wild and wide once he hurt Miranda because he knew he could at that point. Yet people on this site consider him an A level boxer. This is still 'spur of the moment' reactions to a particular situation. He still has to be aware of a clinch/takedown/kick/etc.....
ufoalf
01-08-2009, 05:21 PM
Arthur Abraham started throwing pretty wild and wide once he hurt Miranda because he knew he could at that point.
:thumbsup
thanosone
01-10-2009, 05:47 PM
Id Freddy Roach the kid from Jerry McGuire all grown up?
boxingcar
01-10-2009, 06:07 PM
Arthur Abraham started throwing pretty wild and wide once he hurt Miranda because he knew he could at that point. Yet people on this site consider him an A level boxer. This is still 'spur of the moment' reactions to a particular situation. He still has to be aware of a clinch/takedown/kick/etc.....
agreed.... still , Roach is correct...Fedor has no technic but , it's not like fedor ever claimed to be a striking expert or anything...we know what he's proud of...his sambo background. his fighting record speaks for itself too...he submits his opponents (most of the time).
He's far from being a ko machine.
he gets away with it because he's pretty fast.
Will it work against Arlovski ? One thing i know is that arvloski vs fedor is mma's most important fight of 2009. (yes , 2009 is fucking far from being over , but any fights which involves an ex-champion or contender VS fedor...is ultra important ).
Of course his boxing technique is flawed, he isn't a boxer and he has never fought a boxing match. Roach I don't think is understanding MMA he is just focused on the striking aspect of it and doesn't realize the stances and techniques to defend are vastly different.
ozziebattler
01-10-2009, 07:58 PM
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Ofcourse freddy is going to find faults in Fedor...Freddy has been helping AA on his striking game for several years and is obviously going to make out his fighter is way more techniquely sound..
Im actually a boxer who really enjoys watching MMA as i feel its definetly the future of the fight game...Very appealing..
Also must admit a regular boxers stance is way to stiff and focuses (obviously) only on the opponents upper body movements..Which aint a good idea in MMA as within a second u could be on your back from either a takedown or mass head kick...
Weber
01-10-2009, 08:09 PM
:deal:deal
In MMA here is no "technically correct", its what works. What works IS technically correct. Fedor's is displaying poor Kung Fu technique... then again he's not doing Kung Fu.
This is what it comes down to.
Beebs
01-10-2009, 08:20 PM
The only real problem with Fedors technique is he lands his hooks on his thumbs and has had hand problems because of it, and will continue to break bones in his hand if he keeps doing it.
Hermit
01-10-2009, 08:54 PM
Im actually a boxer who really enjoys watching MMA as i feel its definetly the future of the fight game...Very appealing..
Be prepared to be called a liar, a traitor, and then it will get ugly.:lol:
neil hibbert
01-11-2009, 02:27 PM
i believe kimbo slice is fishing for a fight with fedor
Weber
01-11-2009, 03:18 PM
i believe kimbo slice is fishing for a fight with fedor
That would be pointless. He has virtually no chance against Fedor.
scurlaruntings
01-11-2009, 03:24 PM
i believe kimbo slice is fishing for a fight with fedorI highly doubt that. Fedor would submit his beard by RNC and then beat him with it. No one wants to see that fight and its certainly not even a rumour.
neil hibbert
01-11-2009, 04:49 PM
I highly doubt that. Fedor would submit his beard by RNC and then beat him with it. No one wants to see that fight and its certainly not even a rumour.
was on hifacebook page actually, his real page
scurlaruntings
01-11-2009, 04:51 PM
O right.. It must be true then.
Hermit
01-11-2009, 05:16 PM
O right.. It must be true then.
I think the point is Kimbo wants it, not anyone else. :lol:
scurlaruntings
01-11-2009, 05:29 PM
Ya think :-)
ozziebattler
01-11-2009, 07:12 PM
I think the point is Kimbo wants it, not anyone else. :lol:
The bloke shouldnt even have the right to call out fights with the likes of Fedor...
Its over Mr Slice...Please just leave the building with what pride and dignity you have left...
Hermit
01-11-2009, 07:20 PM
The bloke shouldnt even have the right to call out fights with the likes of Fedor...
Its over Mr Slice...Please just leave the building with what pride and dignity you have left...
The only way this fight is fair is to tell Fedor exactly what pretzel shape he has to tie KS up in and give him a time limit. :D
I'm sure Kimbo wants the pay day, but would this fight sell?
ozziebattler
01-11-2009, 07:28 PM
The only way this fight is fair is to tell Fedor exactly what pretzel shape he has to tie KS up in and give him a time limit. :D
I'm sure Kimbo wants the pay day, but would this fight sell?
It would only sell for the fact people love watching Fedor(MMA fans) and also the fact there are still alot of Kimbo hype eating fanboys..
Im Australian and have seen betters bare knuckle fighters at our pubs on a thursday night(work payday).So when i seen this Kimbo bloke beating up guys that were clearly scared of him i just laughed it off as some AMERICAN youtube star who will fade away in a few months..
Yes he faded away but i didnt expect him to actually get the money etc that he did...
ONLY IN AMERICA.LOL...
sugarngold
01-11-2009, 08:11 PM
Freddy Roach is only partly right about Fedor. It's not that Fedor has no technique - but he has no style - or as Bruce Lee would say "the style of no-style." His movements and responses are animalistic. He can outstrike better strikers like Crocop and outgrapple better grapplers like Nogueira. That's what makes him Fedor.
achillesthegreat
01-16-2009, 08:42 AM
Feel free to detail his style and how he isn't technically incorrect? Feel free to write whatever? And you'll return your thoughts?
:rofl
That is a great way to get out of a debate. Bravo.
I thought I was coming back to an intelligent discussion. :rofl
cdnboxing
01-18-2009, 06:17 PM
Roach is right.
Fedor has been rocked before and his punches are wide, telegraphed hooks. The problem is Fedor does have heavy hands and not many guys in MMA can eat his punches and fire back.
AA has a chance but he cant let Fedor dictate his fight. And AA needs to let his hands go 1st, and he needs to throw straight punches because if he does those are going to land.
If guys like Fujita, Lindland can land on Fedor, i'm very confident that with the right gameplan AA can as well.
Im more pumped for this fight than the Penn/GSP fight.
Griip
01-19-2009, 06:51 PM
That is a great way to get out of a debate. Bravo.
I thought I was coming back to an intelligent discussion. :rofl
Out of a debate? Are you fucking kidding me? You said you'd gladly describe his style and technique etc etc, and when I ask you to do that you tell ME to do it and that YOU will comment on it. :huh
Where's your brain, pal?
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