Fantasy match up- Fedor Vs George Foreman

[Big N Bad]

this isnt a boxing match or a mma fight.
lol
what if these two started scuffling in the street.
they both big punchers, foreman being the bigger puncher.
does foreman land the lucky punch?

whats youre opinion?

[Griip]

Only standup? :)

[Charles White]

Only standup? :)Who's the guy in your avatar?

P.S. Foreman doesn't land a lucky punch, he lands a well placed stragetic punch that sends Fedor into slumberland.

[ufoalf]

Fedor throws a right straight into a clinch. Takedown. Foreman walks off with a broken arm.

[Wilhelm]

I've always thought that the best "what if they trained mma instead" matchup would have been Big George vs. Karelin. So much power between the two.

I guess I'd give Foreman a better chance in a street scuffle against Fedor than I would in an MMA match, just because there are chances to punch before the other guy is ready and shirts and hair to hold while punching. Then again, Fedor would be much better with any clothing grip fighting because of his sambo/judo stuff, so a Foreman trained only in boxing vs. Fedor would probably go just as ALF says.

[québecwarrior]

Foreman got chocked out or get an arm broken, and say he was drugged.

[Dostoevsky]

I've always thought that the best "what if they trained mma instead" matchup would have been Big George vs. Karelin. So much power between the two.

I guess I'd give Foreman a better chance in a street scuffle against Fedor than I would in an MMA match, just because there are chances to punch before the other guy is ready and shirts and hair to hold while punching. Then again, Fedor would be much better with any clothing grip fighting because of his sambo/judo stuff, so a Foreman trained only in boxing vs. Fedor would probably go just as ALF says.

Prime, George was a midget compared to Karelin. Foreman was about 217-225 in his prime, Karelin was a colossal 286lbs who probably walked around at 300lbs. He would throw lil' George around like a ragdoll. George would be advised to drop down to 205lb if he were around today.

[Wilhelm]

Prime, George was a midget compared to Karelin. Foreman was about 217-225 in his prime, Karelin was a colossal 286lbs who probably walked around at 300lbs. He would throw lil' George around like a ragdoll. George would be advised to drop down to 205lb if he were around today.

Not too many people (if anyone) would ever have been able to hang with Karelin, but in terms of striking power, toughness, aggression and strength Foreman was a hell of a mix. I'd never imagine him out grappling Karelin.

[Beebs]

Foreman could always get off first and ko Fedor, but I would put my car on fedor throwing him to the ground with his world class sambo and judo and either stomping his face or following him to the ground and snapping off an arm or choking the life out of foreman, and I love foreman

[Beebs]

Karelin vs foreman with both being trained in mma would be great, but I would go with karelin; wrestling transfers better and karelin was not just a physical freak he was technically perfect which foreman was not.

So given the higher skill, bigger size, and more applicable style I would take karelin easily, but big George could have wrecked a whole lot of fantasy fighters

[MaliSlamusrex]

knowing Sambo fighters Fedor would look for the closest weapon to inflict a fatality.

[BoxingFanBG]

Big George draws Colt 1911, Fedor lands in a coffin.

[Verbalkint]

If they started off at close quarters then Big George knocks Fedor out but if there is a decent distance between the 2 then Fedor beats Big George with considerable ease.

[codeman99998]

If they started off at close quarters then Big George knocks Fedor out but if there is a decent distance between the 2 then Fedor beats Big George with considerable ease.

Do you think a Prime Foreman could KO fedor with only one or two punches?

[achillesthegreat]

No one really knows. Does Fedor take George for granted and get ko'd? Vica versa, does George think he is the big dog and get whooped by the small fat man? Hard to say on the street.

[BewareofDawg]

Fedor isn't that much smaller then a prime Foreman. Fedor would absolutely maul him.

[TheBradyHawkes]

Who's the guy in your avatar?

P.S. Foreman doesn't land a lucky punch, he lands a well placed stragetic punch that sends Fedor into slumberland.

The guy in is avatar is none other than the Guv'nor, Lenny Mclean. I read up on him a while back. He was supposedly the baddest bouncer in London for a while, and had a few unlicensed boxing matches. Also was in a few movies, namely "Lock, Stock, and two Smoking Barrels".

Here's my favorite fight he had :rofl

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[TheBradyHawkes]

Oh yeah, in a street fight, Fedor takes Big George.

[McManama]

If they stay on their fight, and have a street fight like men Foreman Easily knocks him out...

If Fedor tackles foreman and begins to use submission moves, then foreman ends up unconscious or with a broken arm


I prefer stand up fights, with striking and punching... but the most effective way to fight in a REAL on the streets fight is taking someone down and using superior ground skills...

Thats why I think that MMA is just a regulated form of street fighting, where as Boxing is a controlled form of combat, but at its best is beautiful.

[codeman99998]

If they started off at close quarters then Big George knocks Fedor out but if there is a decent distance between the 2 then Fedor beats Big George with considerable ease.

Big George has 81 fights and 15 first round KOs. Of those first round KOs (against a lot of, but not all, chumps) 12 have times recorded in boxrec.

The average time for a George Foreman first round KO is about 2 minutes at 12 seconds or so. Given this, even if the fight starts close, there is little reason to think Foreman KOs fedor standing quickly, before Fedor gets the takedown. Of his fights, he only gets a first round KO 18.5% of the time and of that 18.5% it takes an average of over 2 minutes to get the KO.

Boxers aren't super people.

[Addie]

Don't care.

[combatesdeboxeo]

. George would be advised to drop down to 205lb if he were around today.
obviously you know shit about boxing... foreman weighed 232 pounds in 1976 and he did not have modern advantages in roids,suplements and he did not train weights. he was a fucking animal by genetics, he had brutal strength and brutal hitting power. the strongest boxer ever and the hardest puncher in the history of boxing.
the weight is not matter, maybe you think that akebono is the strongest fighter ever lol. primo carnera weighed 260-280 pounda of pure muscle and joe louis (200 pounds) knocked him out. the little kids in the mma think that the heavier man wins..
obviously every style is different.... can you imagine the hitting power of george with the gloves of mma? i will say simply... if george catch him with a clean shot in the face it is over... if fedor get fight in the floor it is over.

[Johnstown]

too many variables.....really.....do they know they are gonna fight..have a nice clear area...like they have words...people clear out a spot..and they go..then definitly fedor..its just words and one decides to fight its basically who makes the first move...if foreman hits fedor barefisted fedor is out cold. Foreman stands a chance if fedor throws the first punch...but if fedor grabs him then foreman is done....its all pretty much bull shit...does foreman know fedor is a trained and dangerious fighter? does fedor know foreman is a foreman..and thus avoid any punching?

[Johnstown]

Fedor isn't that much smaller then a prime Foreman. Fedor would absolutely maul him.
actually bone structure he is...

[combatesdeboxeo]

actually bone structure he is... absolutely, many people think that is the same thing a heavy man because he trained weights and he took supplements. than a man who is big and strong by genetics and bone structure, plus foreman was very muscular, he had the arms of a bodybuilder

[Totomabs]

it's a 50-50...

[monaroCountry]

In a real life no holds barred situation, Foreman would be lucky with just a broken bone, the most likely scenario would be Forman dead.

There is a very good reason why many special forces around the world prefer to use Combat Sambo. Combat Sambo was created by the military to be efficient at disarming, subduing and/or killing opponents. In creating this fighting system the Soviets pitted prisoners v Spetsnaz in a life or death death match.

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[yaca you]

In a real life no holds barred situation, Foreman would be lucky with just a broken bone, the most likely scenario would be Forman dead.

There is a very good reason why many special forces around the world prefer to use Combat Sambo. Combat Sambo was created by the military to be efficient at disarming, subduing and/or killing opponents. In creating this fighting system the Soviets pitted prisoners v Spetsnaz in a life or death death match.

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I liked that video.

[196osh]

Fedor would rip something off.

[SILENCER]

lol fedor would fuckin eat him you goons...

god this place at the minute!!

[Johnstown]

Ill give the edge to fedor but you guys underestimate Foreman

[combatesdeboxeo]

the fan girls of mma obviously will pick fedor, but the facts are foreman might put fedor to sleep with a single punch

[MarcianoIsABum]

Why do people keep saying Foreman weighed 217 in his prime because he weighed that for Frazier? Foreman turned pro weighing 230 at the age of 19 he lost that weight because his trainer was a idiot who made him do that.

[BewareofDawg]

Why do people keep saying Foreman weighed 217 in his prime because he weighed that for Frazier? Foreman turned pro weighing 230 at the age of 19 he lost that weight because his trainer was a idiot who made him do that.
So what is your point?

[BobDigi5060]

the fan girls of mma obviously will pick fedor, but the facts are foreman might put fedor to sleep with a single punch

Might.. And then what?

Dumb question.. Fedor would win in more ways than one.

Fedor takes him down, or slams, submission lock, fight over. In a fight, anyone can be put to sleep with a single shot. Foreman can't grapple, no great boxer could, with a C class Mixed Martial Artists.

People like to think Foreman, or any decent boxer, would walk through Fedor, but quite the opposite would happen. Foreman would have no idea what to do about punches/elbows in Fedor's clinch, or how to defend an elbow or spinning back fist.

Like I always say in these threads, boxers only know two things, how to defend and throw a punch, in a street scuffle, a equally skilled man in this sport (MMA) will always have his way unless he gets caught by a punch.

[MarcianoIsABum]

The point is Foreman is bigger than Fedor and would kick his ass in a street fight.

[Dave_JR]

How about Lenny Mclean V Foreman?

[Sloth]

Fedor by murder. Then destroys ali within 2 minutes. All before lunch of fried Tyson.

[Sloth]

The point is Foreman is bigger than Fedor and would kick his ass in a street fight.


No knowledge of fighting I see.:patsch Fedor kills him. Even in standup. God help George if it goes to the floor.:lol:

[Vitor Belfort]

Street fight fedor beat the fuck out of slow as foreman. Foreman is a big puncher but he'll be taken down via judo throw and then fedor via ground and pound on the ground.

[AnthonyJ74]

Fedor would defecate himself at the sight of "Big" George Foreman's baleful, sinister gaze!!!!Foreman's intimidation factor would render Fedor effeminate.....

[Dave_j1985]

Whoever can impose their game first wins. If Foreman catches Fedor coming in, it can be all over. If the first good shot doesn't knock him out it certainly slows him down enough for Foreman to finish. If Fedor closes the gap and gets the clinch relatively unscaved, a well executed hip toss (remembering this is a street fight and not fought on mats) could stop George, if not Fedor probably finishes him with a choke. I doubt he goes for an arm bar in a street fight where there is no tapping, he puts George to sleep and ends the fight.

I think this is 50/50

[196osh]

Whoever can impose their game first wins. If Foreman catches Fedor coming in, it can be all over. If the first good shot doesn't knock him out it certainly slows him down enough for Foreman to finish. If Fedor closes the gap and gets the clinch relatively unscaved, a well executed hip toss (remembering this is a street fight and not fought on mats) could stop George, if not Fedor probably finishes him with a choke. I doubt he goes for an arm bar in a street fight where there is no tapping, he puts George to sleep and ends the fight.

I think this is 50/50

So what you are saying is there is a 50% chance that Foreman lands a one punch KO? :lol:

[Matt Ldn]

So what you are saying is there is a 50% chance that Foreman lands a one punch KO? :lol:

I think chances are lower but there is a good chance if not better that foremans first punch hurts fedor and he can finish him from there. However, good fedors striking may be it isnt even on the same level as Foremans and remember this isnt with gloves. Tbh foreman probably breaks his hand on fedors face

[196osh]

I think chances are lower but there is a good chance if not better that foremans first punch hurts fedor and he can finish him from there. However, good fedors striking may be it isnt even on the same level as Foremans and remember this isnt with gloves. Tbh foreman probably breaks his hand on fedors face

Yes however, a 50% chance essentially Foreman gets a 1 punch KO or hurts him with one punch and stops him after?

Fedor could take Foreman down when badly hurt. No problem.

Its a 99% chance Fedor would take Foreman down and turn his face into hamburger meat.

[Valane]

I think chances are lower but there is a good chance if not better that foremans first punch hurts fedor and he can finish him from there. However, good fedors striking may be it isnt even on the same level as Foremans and remember this isnt with gloves. Tbh foreman probably breaks his hand on fedors face



Bullshit. Next thing you will be saying that Marciano's striking is a level above Overeem's.

Foreman was a big, very strong, very powerful brawler who got by on physical attributes, he is about the furthest thing from a technical striker imaginable.

Foreman either lands a hail mary or gets clinched, thrown and gets something ripped off.

Grappling negates striking and it would be even more pronounced in street clothes.

[Matt Ldn]

Yes however, a 50% chance essentially Foreman gets a 1 punch KO or hurts him with one punch and stops him after?

Fedor could take Foreman down when badly hurt. No problem.

Its a 99% chance Fedor would take Foreman down and turn his face into hamburger meat.

If fedor gets his hands on him foreman is on the floor getting his head smashed in no doubt. But you cant deny that if foreman connects with one of those bombs with no gloves its game over for fedor

To be honest not sure why i waded into a scenario with this many variables

[Mister T]

Do you think a Prime Foreman could KO fedor with only one or two punches?

Yes.

Assuming, of course, that Foreman got his punches off first and didn't get bitch-tossed to the ground....

[sugarsean]

How about Lenny Mclean V Foreman?

Well given the fact that McLean was sparked out in the first rounds twice against Johnny Waldron and once against Cliff Field both of who were only journey men boxers.

Its a joke that you'd even mentioned Mclean fighting with Foreman.

[Money Shot]

all big George needs is some take down defence and he smashes up Fedor or any other mma crotch sniffer.