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Will be a tough fight for Geale if it goes ahead.
Angry Fight Fan
01-04-2009, 07:01 PM
I cn't see Geale winning that fight. He doesn't have the power to discourage 'Abrahams' and will get broken down by Arthurs constant aggression and body punching and stopped in the middle rounds. Geale needs to step up the competition gradually against the likes of Soliman, Taylor etc then fight a few decent American or European contenders before he jumps in there with a top fighter like Abraham. So many Australian fighters make this mistake like Pittman did last year, like Glenn Kelly did (he wasn't going to beat RJJ anyway) and it hurts them because the level in competition from a NZ Middleweight Champ to a World Champ is just too much to overcome in one jump. You need to adjust yourself to the difference in aggression that they bring, the difference in style and most of all the difference in power and when they taste it without having tasted it before it makes for a harder fight then it should have been.
ipswich express
01-04-2009, 07:49 PM
Arthur by way of brutal beating for about 6 or 7 rounds.
ipswich express
01-04-2009, 07:55 PM
It'd be nice is the journo had've managed to spell his name right.
Anenigma
01-04-2009, 09:42 PM
Surely this can't be true, bad decision I feel, Soliman would have been the perfect step up fight next which would be hard enough.
Against Abraham they are sending him to get crucified.
the beaver
01-04-2009, 09:55 PM
Surely this can't be true, bad decision I feel, Soliman would have been the perfect step up fight next which would be hard enough.
Against Abraham they are sending him to get crucified.
This is the problem with up and coming Aussie fighters.
They fight Thai cab drivers for their first 15 bouts and have a perfect record. Depending on the organisation they usually win a IBO or WBO minnow title, that then places them in the top 10 on one of the big organisations who have a champion looking to get a good hometown mandatory payday. Not only that but the boxing community can't complain because they're fighting a guy with a perfect record.
The Aussie fighter either takes the fight and payday or sticks to fighting bums .........Problem is if they don't take the fight who knows when they will get another shot.
So basically they go from fighting stiffs to the number one in the world...............It's crazy but true.
The answerin my opinion is:
The top 3 or 4 in each weight division need to be fighting each other continously. Geale should be fighting Hamdan,Taylor,Soliman etc
Jambo
01-04-2009, 10:11 PM
Arthur by way of brutal beating for about 6 or 7 rounds.
Agreed. Terrible match making really. Arthur has the sort of one punch power to really derail the career of someone like Geale. I struggle to see how any good other than $$$$$ will come out of this.
T.C.W
01-04-2009, 10:24 PM
Geale would get ko"ed out
ipswich express
01-04-2009, 10:28 PM
Knocked outed out? :)
Marcus
01-04-2009, 10:32 PM
Yeah bad fight atm, i think id put my house on Abraham by KO before 6.
ipswich express
01-04-2009, 10:33 PM
Agreed. Terrible match making really. Arthur has the sort of one punch power to really derail the career of someone like Geale. I struggle to see how any good other than $$$$$ will come out of this.
I suppose you never turn back an opportunity, because at the end of the day, who knows if you'll ever get another shot. I'll never blame the fighter, but the logical progression would be to Soliman etc.
roscoe
01-04-2009, 10:55 PM
It would be great to see an upcoming fighter come through the ranks & a get a shot at the belt & be in agood position to win it. Geale will be toatlly outclassed. No fight he has had yet will prepare him for what abraham will throw at him. Abraham KO 3 rds.
Angry Fight Fan
01-05-2009, 12:37 AM
This is the problem with up and coming Aussie fighters.
They fight Thai cab drivers for their first 15 bouts and have a perfect record. Depending on the organisation they usually win a IBO or WBO minnow title, that then places them in the top 10 on one of the big organisations who have a champion looking to get a good hometown mandatory payday. Not only that but the boxing community can't complain because they're fighting a guy with a perfect record.
The Aussie fighter either takes the fight and payday or sticks to fighting bums .........Problem is if they don't take the fight who knows when they will get another shot.
So basically they go from fighting stiffs to the number one in the world...............It's crazy but true.
The answerin my opinion is:
The top 3 or 4 in each weight division need to be fighting each other continously. Geale should be fighting Hamdan,Taylor,Soliman etc
I agree 100%. I'll probably sound like an old codger (even though I'm in my 20s) when I say this, but back in the day Australian fighters were more likely to succeed on the World stage because they had to go through one another to reach the top. They had to win the Australian title to get a shot at the Commomwealth/British Empire title and then they had to win that against a top British or African fighter to get World ranked. Guys like Hector Thompson or Tony Mundine or Ron Richards who came up fighting legitimate threats would all be World champions in todays alphabet soup because they had the talent but didn't have anywhere near as many options to get there other then to go through the best in the World and in the era's of Thompson and Mundine especially the best in the World happened to be one of the best (if not the best) of all-time (I'm talking about Duran and Monzon for any newbies). It'll never be as tough and challenging to get world rated as long as there is four sanctioning bodies with about 20 meaningless regional titles which go out to the promoter with the most money against whoever they can be bothered matching them up against instead of the real top guys fighting other real top guys!
Marcus
01-05-2009, 12:45 AM
Going from fighting imports to Abraham is bad news.
I agree with the above post, you should progress though titles, not just get a decent strap, fight a few times and wait for a world ranking.
I love Geale :smooch but he needs to test himself vs Sammy first, i know he spars Bika, Sam and more, but thats sparring.
Could you imagine what Abraham would do to him? It could be career ending :|
Bognashavin
01-05-2009, 01:45 AM
Ouch, that's gonna hurt, will Geale be allowed to wear a helmet?
toppity
01-05-2009, 02:36 AM
wrong place.........wrong time
smellmyfinger
01-05-2009, 03:07 AM
wrong place.........wrong time
and wrong opponant
ashley
01-05-2009, 04:21 AM
Is this fight with Sam now off?
Fighting sam first will help but going round with AA at anytime is not a good move ATM 4 geale.
He needs to build......AA will smash him full stop.
If he does fight him.......i dont know if he can even compete.....the only point in this fight 4 geale is to compete and look good even if he gets beaten.
Sammy was gonna be too much for Geale so im guessing Arti is gonna murder him
Rise Above
01-05-2009, 04:59 AM
Hope this doesnt happen. Geale isnt ready to face someone like Abraham.
flamengo
01-05-2009, 05:01 AM
Agreed. Terrible match making really. Arthur has the sort of one punch power to really derail the career of someone like Geale. I struggle to see how any good other than $$$$$ will come out of this.
Im not too sure just how much faith people have in Geale. It remiss of myself to misjudge the opinions of others, as the keen eye has to suggest any fight at this point has to be nothingless than a productive addition to Geales resume'.... Soliman is a great option.. will expose any floors in Geales arsenal. Taylor would be valueable.. due to his ability to push a fighter.. albeit, at this point in time that pressure may only last 5-7 rounds.
Geale, IMO has the right stlye to mix it with Pav when the time is right. A good body puncher, compact throughout, although, he does get drawn into a scrappy mix-up on the ropes, or centre ring. Something Pav would take in his own favour..... currently.
Given a few more tussles against quality, experienced guys (on their way out), he may well become settled, and less inclined to follow the lead of another fighters agression. This will come in time, hopefully.
He does look pretty well established now, and with the right path, may present some top line fighters more trouble than expected. Good luck to him.
Bentchassis
01-05-2009, 05:28 AM
all things being equal Gealey's fucked if this fight takes place.
ipswich express
01-05-2009, 05:51 AM
Anyone who is getting dropped by McKinnon, is getting stomped at this point in time by the cream of 160.
perfect jet
01-05-2009, 06:33 AM
Anyone who is getting dropped by McKinnon, is getting stomped at this point in time by the cream of 160.
What he said.
Francis75
01-05-2009, 08:04 AM
I agree with what other's have mentioned here. Abraham stops Geale within 6 rds without too much trouble. Geale has NO punch at the elite level, Abraham has a GRANITE chin at the elite level, Geale has been dropped by journeymen. Imo Geale is a talented tidy boxer who has fought nobody yet and is amazingly underprepared to fight Arthur Abraham. No doubt Abraham's people would only offer Geale a small purse so you really have to wonder why Geale's management would take this fight. Lets all be honest here, Geale won't be competitive against Abraham.
Kegsy
01-05-2009, 11:47 AM
The fight aint happening at this stage thats 4 certain.
It's great Geale is gunning for the big guy's, but it would be suicide right now.
WhataRock
01-05-2009, 01:38 PM
I dont really like Dan's chances now or anytime..So why not go for it now?
He has shown he can go at a good pace for 12...his apprenticeship has been done.
He will lose..more then likely brutally but to be honest I dont see Geale ever improving enough to step up to this calibre anyway.
Absolutely love to be proven wrong though.
:( some of the saddest news Ive had to hear so far this year... *padum chiiinnnnkk*
Honestly though I see a rd 3 or 4 KO. AA is brutal, yet still technical. Hes champ for a reason!
I dont really like Dan's chances now or anytime..So why not go for it now?
He has shown he can go at a good pace for 12...his apprenticeship has been done.
He will lose..more then likely brutally but to be honest I dont see Geale ever improving enough to step up to this calibre anyway.
Absolutely love to be proven wrong though.what he said
Anenigma
01-05-2009, 10:17 PM
:( some of the saddest news Ive had to hear so far this year... *padum chiiinnnnkk*
Honestly though I see a rd 3 or 4 KO. AA is brutal, yet still technical. Hes champ for a reason!
I agree this is the kind of fight that would be hard to recover from mentally aswell.
If you watch him when they are anouncing the fighters he has little nervous idiocyncrosies that look like he is not that mentally strong anyway.
what he said
agree, but give credit to him for taking tough fights, its the onl way to test yourself
flamengo
01-06-2009, 05:07 AM
I agree this is the kind of fight that would be hard to recover from mentally aswell.
If you watch him when they are anouncing the fighters he has little nervous idiocyncrosies that look like he is not that mentally strong anyway.
Nervousness can be your best friend, and carry you. Over confidence, lack of fear and disinterest in self-awarenees, can fog your thoughts and mental state. No matter how prepared for the coming fight, these things will create problems early on. Been there, done that. Cheers.
Best of luck to Geale. He may learn a lot about his aptitude for further ventures in the game.
Anenigma
01-06-2009, 08:02 AM
Nervousness can be your best friend, and carry you. Over confidence, lack of fear and disinterest in self-awarenees, can fog your thoughts and mental state. No matter how prepared for the coming fight, these things will create problems early on. Been there, done that. Cheers.
Best of luck to Geale. He may learn a lot about his aptitude for further ventures in the game.
There is a difference between being nervous on the inside and using that energy to your best advantage any fighter knows that is what keeps you out of trouble.
This was a stay busy fight against a guy that didn't really deserve to be in the ring with a world champion, Geale should of been nervous on the inside because he was about to fight but he should have looked like a confident world champ that was about to destroy the guy across the ring that wasn't really in his league.
Against someone like Arthur Abraham he will sniff that fear out and walk straight thru him.
I can't help but feel Geale has been taken a back by peoples honest opinion about how he would fair against Choc and is now trying to prove a point.
Good on him for stepping up but I don't think he realizes what he is stepping up to.
ashley
01-06-2009, 08:09 AM
There is a difference between being nervous on the inside and using that energy to your best advantage any fighter knows that is what keeps you out of trouble.
This was a stay busy fight against a guy that didn't really deserve to be in the ring with a world champion, Geale should of been nervous on the inside because he was about to fight but he should have looked like a confident world champ that was about to destroy the guy across the ring that wasn't really in his league.
Against someone like Arthur Abraham he will sniff that fear out and walk straight thru him.
I can't help but feel Geale has been taken a back by peoples honest opinion about how he would fair against Choc and is now trying to prove a point.
Good on him for stepping up but I don't think he realizes what he is stepping up to.
I think he knows what he will get with AA...and it pays better than getting beaten by sam or mundine
agree, but give credit to him for taking tough fights, its the onl way to test yourselfYeah agree again.
goodnight
01-07-2009, 04:28 PM
I think he knows what he will get with AA...and it pays better than getting beaten by sam or mundine
better to lose against abrahams in germany than sam in melbourne. :bbb
StiffJab
01-07-2009, 11:29 PM
:( some of the saddest news Ive had to hear so far this year... *padum chiiinnnnkk*
Honestly though I see a rd 3 or 4 KO. AA is brutal, yet still technical. Hes champ for a reason!
Am i the only person here glad to see a top aussie fighter taking on the best in the world? Gealy has the boxing skills to make this a competative fight, although i see this as another mosley v shannan taylor kinda fight, a undeafeted aussie stepping it up to take on the best there is. Win or lose, i give Geale respect for wanting to fight the best there is, when he could have taken a mundine style path in boxing and finish his career defending a second tier title to 3rd tier competition. In all honesty, i regard Geals IBO title higher than Mundines once owned "regular/meaningless" WBA title.
Although i agree Abraham will bash Gealey i dont think AA has good skills. There is always that chance that Geale could very well come up with a plan to win.
ashley
01-08-2009, 05:30 AM
Although i agree Abraham will bash Gealey i dont think AA has good skills. There is always that chance that Geale could very well come up with a plan to win.
Dude what u been :hat
Francis75
01-08-2009, 06:47 AM
Although i agree Abraham will bash Gealey i dont think AA has good skills. There is always that chance that Geale could very well come up with a plan to win.
You don't think Abraham has good skills ? :patsch
You don't think Abraham has good skills ? :patschNot overly impressed by his skills. He can be lumbering with his footwork can get really lazy with his jab and often moves into his opponent without throwing it. To me it looks like someone who is dedicated to jab then move off to the side can cause him some trouble. He throws great combos explosively which often hurts his opponents - that is his main strength, his high guard is what i see as being his undoing against Pavlik. If Pavlik doubles up on his jab and follows through with a right hand i can see him punching right through AA defence and giving him one hell of a time. Geale aint Pavlik and i expect him to get bashed. AA isnt a highly skilled boxer, probably more a boxer/puncher like Mosley.
perfect jet
01-08-2009, 07:54 AM
Look for Geale to get through his next fight (whoever it is) and then fight Soliman in....drum roll please........
Tassy!
You heard it right here.
ashley
01-08-2009, 08:07 AM
Look for Geale to get through his next fight (whoever it is) and then fight Soliman in....drum roll please........
Tassy!
You heard it right here.
Dude what u been :hat.....and with Marcus :smoke
ipswich express
01-08-2009, 08:31 AM
Perfect Jet is likely to be on the money, trust me...
Perfect Jet is likely to be on the money, trust me...You're such a cunt, why dont you just spit things out if you know :p
ipswich express
01-08-2009, 08:51 AM
Because that would wreck the incredible power I hold over you :lol:
Nah, simply because a lot of things aren't in the bag and everyone reads these boxing forums. ;)
ipswich express
01-08-2009, 09:03 AM
But seeings you asked so nicely, good chance you'll see Paul Briggs back in the ring in 09... if the venture gets off the ground. Here's hoping.
ashley
01-08-2009, 09:07 AM
But seeings you asked so nicely, good chance you'll see Paul Briggs back in the ring in 09... if the venture gets off the ground. Here's hoping.
Dude what u been :hat
Dude what u been :hat:lol:
Ippy I understand. Briggs may return :shock:
ipswich express
01-08-2009, 09:46 AM
I'll spell it out for you... SUPERFIGHTER at 175.
WhataRock
01-08-2009, 10:12 AM
Not sure how I feel about Briggs coming back..Really seemed like his well on to his way to Shotville from reports.
I'll spell it out for you... SUPERFIGHTER at 175.There is only one Superfighter at 175. Baaaad Chaaaad
Bentchassis
01-08-2009, 05:27 PM
Fuck, really! Again
Danny Green maybe:yep
Same as Whatarock though, be nothing worse than seeing him get his arse handed if his still struggling.
ipswich express
01-08-2009, 11:31 PM
Those type of things are usually 4 round fights, all held on the one night. I'm sure he's got enough left in the tank, if indeed it all goes ahead. Greeny is up for it too, so I hear.
Kegsy
01-09-2009, 04:40 AM
On Steve Bunce's boxing hour Kalle Sauerland basically said the Geale fight with Abraham is nearly a done deal.
I wonder if Setanta will show the fight here, as they have the rights to the fight in the UK it also stated.
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