How would Max Baer do in today's HW division?

[Slothrop]

I like him against almost anyone but Wlad.

[McGrain]

I like him against almost anyone but Wlad.

I would make him favourite against everyone but Wlad. I wouldn't be making a pick where that one is concerned.

I would be very interested to see him fight Peter. That might be a good one. I think i'd favour Baer there too though.

[Jack]

Sam Peter is a better fighter than Baer was.

I'd pick Peter, Wlad, Vitali and maybe Chagaev over Baer.

[McGrain]

Sam Peter is a better fighter than Baer was.

Well Baer was certainly a bit fleeter of foot.

I'd pick Peter, Wlad, Vitali and maybe Chagaev over Baer.

Chageav is an interesting one and I think underated by many. But i'll need to see a little more of him in action at the top before i'd be able to pick him over Baer.

[Lacyace]

Sadly, we may perhaps never see him in the ring again.

What happened to him?

He is the only current hw i was interested in.

Me too.

[McGrain]

He has Hepatitis B, thats why he had to pull out of the unification with Ibragimov. If it becomes chronic he has to quit boxing.


Well that is shit news.

Mobile and can hit with both hands. Let's hope he straightens out.

[Sonny's jab]

Max Baer could beat them all, brutally and electrifyingly.

But he could lose to them all too, and stink the joint out in the process.

That was Max Baer.

If he was around today he'd be on the cover of all the magazines, probably being screwing Angelina Jolie, Beyonce Knowles and Jennifer Lopez, and drawing record PPV audiences.
Boxing would be back on the front pages.

[mr. magoo]

Personally, I think that his brother Buddy would have a better chance of making a bigger impact today, given that he had all the right size dimensions and physical tools which fit the bill for this era. Max had talent, but skills that were rather unrefined. His brute strength may have gotten him his meal ticket in an era, where most heavyweights were not built like they are today, but in anytime post 1960, he'd have to come up with something other than just savage slugging, and frankly I just don't think that he had the right accumen.

[The Kurgan]

I'd expect him to beat Wlad and the rest of the top boxers, EXCEPT Chagaev and maybe Peter. Chagaev's skills and hard-working attitude would allow him to pick up plenty of rounds while Baer is clowning and not working. Peter-Baer would be a classic brawl; I think if Peter can make enough of an impact early on he can get Baer unwilling to engage a sufficient number of times in the second half, and thus sneak a decision.

Of course, this is all if Baer is focused. Since he often wouldn't be, he'd pick up a lot of silly losses against people one would never pick to beat him.

[mr. magoo]

I'd expect him to beat Wlad and the rest of the top boxers, EXCEPT Chagaev and maybe Peter. Chagaev's skills and hard-working attitude would allow him to pick up plenty of rounds while Baer is clowning and not working. Peter-Baer would be a classic brawl; I think if Peter can make enough of an impact early on he can get Baer unwilling to engage a sufficient number of times in the second half, and thus sneak a decision.

Of course, this is all if Baer is focused. Since he often wouldn't be, he'd pick up a lot of silly losses against people one would never pick to beat him.

You may have a point, except if Baer exercised his tendency to clown, as you say, then he might have a very long and hard night against Wladimir Klitschko

[Lex]

Max Baer was the Earnie Shavers of his day. Shavers was always one crushing overhand right away from being a world champ. I'd give Baer a good chance against any of today's heavyweights. On any given night he'd knock their blocks off. And on another night they'd crush or outbox him. But unlike a lot of today's fighters, Baer would campaign for rematches, and probably get 'em.

[janitor]

Max Baer was the Earnie Shavers of his day. Shavers was always one crushing overhand right away from being a world champ. I'd give Baer a good chance against any of today's heavyweights. On any given night he'd knock their blocks off. And on another night they'd crush or outbox him.

This sums it up nicley. The distractions that prevented Baer from fulfilling his potential in his own day would be magnified ten fold today.

When he was on he would tear through any heavyweight active today but his consistency would let him down.

[janitor]

If he was around today he'd be on the cover of all the magazines, probably being screwing Angelina Jolie, Beyonce Knowles and Jennifer Lopez,

He would have em all. When it came to screwing celebrities Baer was without peer in the pantheon of heavyweight champions.

[mcvey]

Personally, I think that his brother Buddy would have a better chance of making a bigger impact today, given that he had all the right size dimensions and physical tools which fit the bill for this era. Max had talent, but skills that were rather unrefined. His brute strength may have gotten him his meal ticket in an era, where most heavyweights were not built like they are today, but in anytime post 1960, he'd have to come up with something other than just savage slugging, and frankly I just don't think that he had the right accumen.
Max had more power than his brother,and a better chin,but lacked his dedication.

[McGrain]

He would have em all. When it came to screwing celebrities Baer was without peer in the pantheon of heavyweight champions.


I have thought about this A LOT and I am going to bet that Johnson would have achieved more in this era.

[McGrain]

I would be jealous of both.

What, having to listen to J-Lo's shit? That's not for me bro.

[janitor]

I have thought about this A LOT and I am going to bet that Johnson would have achieved more in this era.

Dont get me wrong Johnson was a great seducer but most of his confirmed kills are against cabaret girls and ladies of ill repute with the ocasional society lady thrown in.

Max Baer has a deeper resume against acteses having come along in an era where they were more prevelant. Him and Joe Louis made a clean sweep of the holywood A list between them.

[The Kurgan]

Dont get me wrong Johnson was a great seducer but most of his confirmed kills are against cabaret girls and ladies of ill repute with the ocasional society lady thrown in.

Max Baer has a deeper resume against acteses having come along in an era where they were more prevelant. Him and Joe Louis made a clean sweep of the holywood A list between them.

Good points. Louis has serious depth in regards to the ladies, while Baer's flair was more apparent.

Of course, this is one of the attributes that Liston is deficient in. Then again, Liston is a top 10 p4p lasting marriage contender, while Ali is bottom 2000.

[janitor]

Good points. Louis has serious depth in regards to the ladies, while Baer's flair was more apparent.

Of course, this is one of the attributes that Liston is deficient in. Then again, Liston is a top 10 p4p lasting marriage contender, while Ali is bottom 2000.

I think the woman with the best record vs heavyweight champions is Mae West.

[Bummy Davis]

I think Max would need dedication and a good trainer, but he had the talent to beat everyone

[The Kurgan]

I think the woman with the best record vs heavyweight champions is Mae West.

She also has a better record in the ladies' department than Baer and Louis. Mae West is criminally underrated.

[janitor]

She also has a better record in the ladies' department than Baer and Louis. Mae West is criminally underrated.

Her resume includes both Baer and Louis. No fighter ever matched that in the ring.

[McGrain]

Dont get me wrong Johnson was a great seducer but most of his confirmed kills are against cabaret girls and ladies of ill repute with the ocasional society lady thrown in.

Max Baer has a deeper resume against acteses having come along in an era where they were more prevelant. Him and Joe Louis made a clean sweep of the holywood A list between them.

Of course; in a way this is precicely my point.

Johnson inhabited society's underbelly long before it was fashionable. These factors work in his favour rather than against in this modern era.

Johnson is as "street" as it gets.

Baer would still do well in his niche, but he'd be coming across like Johnson's unfashionable cousin as far as it goes.

[McGrain]

Her resume includes both Baer and Louis. No fighter ever matched that in the ring.

:lol:

[hopkinsfan07]

baer would knock them all out wlads chins wouldent hold up to what baer can dish out

[Lex]

I'm not sure Johnson would do so well today. He'd need to change his style to adapt to refs who won't allow boxers to fight their way out of clinches. He wouldn't be allowed to box his style.

Today, Johnson would be a deadly force in MMA. :blood