Anybody here train others?

[Primenal]

Well, I found a passion for training. I've boxed for a while (no legit fights), but practice daily, and am pretty skilled/ know a lot of what I'm doing. I was trained by some 85 year old ex-pro boxer who still is in good shape. I was trained by a 5th degree black belt with 35 years experience who got to meet/ workout with a lot of celebs and old boxers. So, I got my experience up.
So, like I said I have a passion for training people, and have done it with weightlifting. Most people have no idea what there talking about when it comes to lifting so I've worked with some people.
I started working with a few people at boxing as well just for fun. THEN, realize I wasted my time.
There's a couple boxing gyms around here that will not train you unless you show up all the time, show interest, or of course PAY! The reason they do this to weed out the undedicated people. I always thought it was dickish..Now I see it's a good idea.
Everybody I train either is lazy, undedicated, lacks discipline, won't do what you say, or gets a g/f and there life seems to officially be over. Nerve racking!! I think the reason I train is because I'd love to have a workout partner. Can't seem to find anybody as dedicated as me, and in to the same shit. I workout 5 days a week, about 3 hours a day. Do heavy lifting, light lifting, boxing, running, swimming, martial arts, etc. Nobody around my area seems to have the same desire as I do.

Anybody here train, OR attempted to train others? What are some of your stories?

[amy]

Welcome to the world of boxing. If I had a dollar for every person that's showed up at my gym all gung-ho and quit two weeks later....I'd have a pretty good weekend out. People think boxing is 'cool' and 'fun' and 'a great way to get in shape'. There are very few people who actually like boxing...or better yet love boxing. And you have to love boxing to be dedicated.

I would love it if my coach only accepted people in the gym who were going to compete and I'd love if he'd demand a minimum attendance for competitors. But our club needs dues for those of us who do compete, so we have to put up with a lot of people going through the revolving door.

The unfortunate thing is that you don't want to get negative and possibly turn off the next great boxer for your club but at the same time it gets a little old wasting time on people who don't take it serious.

[Pugsley]

I can imagine 90% of the people I know whose lives are officially over. I dont think the problem just exists in boxing... dedication to a sport/hobby is a personal thing. Dedication is for those who can persist through the inevitable loneliness of it.


Everybody I train either is lazy, undedicated, lacks discipline, won't do what you say, or gets a g/f and there life seems to officially be over. Nerve racking!! I think the reason I train is because I'd love to have a workout partner. Can't seem to find anybody as dedicated as me, and in to the same shit. I workout 5 days a week, about 3 hours a day. Do heavy lifting, light lifting, boxing, running, swimming, martial arts, etc. Nobody around my area seems to have the same desire as I do.

Anybody here train, OR attempted to train others? What are some of your stories?

[znaak]

I'm helping out with training, and I've found out that it is just a waste of time to put any real effort into training them before they show that they want to learn anything. Almost everyone that shows up at the gym gives up after a couple of weeks. Many think boxing is an easy sport, and yeah... they get shocked.

[MrSmall]

I shall return stronger than I did after this xmas break!

[znaak]

Who isn't? :D

[TheRock49]

Welcome to the world of boxing. If I had a dollar for every person that's showed up at my gym all gung-ho and quit two weeks later....I'd have a pretty good weekend out. People think boxing is 'cool' and 'fun' and 'a great way to get in shape'. There are very few people who actually like boxing...or better yet love boxing. And you have to love boxing to be dedicated.

I would love it if my coach only accepted people in the gym who were going to compete and I'd love if he'd demand a minimum attendance for competitors. But our club needs dues for those of us who do compete, so we have to put up with a lot of people going through the revolving door.

The unfortunate thing is that you don't want to get negative and possibly turn off the next great boxer for your club but at the same time it gets a little old wasting time on people who don't take it serious.

My past COUPLE gyms have been that way. People will come thinking they're all bad ass cause they're goin to a boxing gym, and then realize they either have to work, or are getting their ass whooped and leave. Dedication is a big issue. Making weight, eating right, having a regular work out routine. (Me for example I do two a days when off of each semester, then when in school and do longer one a days)

The fight team that Im currently with, I will compete for the first time with in February. Some of the guys I love and we'll work out before and after fight practices and meet for sparring regularly. Where some of the others just show up for practice and are huffin and puffin by the end, leave and go get Michaelangelos pizza.

I strongly beleive, that boxing (if you wanna be any good at it) is a life style. Most just put in the bare minimum, if that.

[amy]

My past COUPLE gyms have been that way. People will come thinking they're all bad ass cause they're goin to a boxing gym, and then realize they either have to work, or are getting their ass whooped and leave. Dedication is a big issue. Making weight, eating right, having a regular work out routine. (Me for example I do two a days when off of each semester, then when in school and do longer one a days)

The fight team that Im currently with, I will compete for the first time with in February. Some of the guys I love and we'll work out before and after fight practices and meet for sparring regularly. Where some of the others just show up for practice and are huffin and puffin by the end, leave and go get Michaelangelos pizza.

I strongly beleive, that boxing (if you wanna be any good at it) is a life style. Most just put in the bare minimum, if that.

I agree 100%.
My coach has started telling people that the club only accepts new members every three months. That has helped a lot. Most people call and talk all big like they want to do it and he gives them the 3-month spiel and we never hear from them again. For the rare few who do show up my coach makes us do his hardest workout. (He basically tries to get all the new people to puke.) We have two right now that he didn't do that with and he kind of babied in the beginning and they are such a waste of time and space in the gym. They do the bare minimum.

I agree with you on boxing being a lifestyle for anyone who is competing on a higher level. I basically have no life anymore. But if I did socialize a ton, go out with my buddies and all that. I wouldn't be where I am in the sport today. No where near.

[GPater11093]

I agree 100%.
My coach has started telling people that the club only accepts new members every three months. That has helped a lot. Most people call and talk all big like they want to do it and he gives them the 3-month spiel and we never hear from them again. For the rare few who do show up my coach makes us do his hardest workout. (He basically tries to get all the new people to puke.) We have two right now that he didn't do that with and he kind of babied in the beginning and they are such a waste of time and space in the gym. They do the bare minimum.

I agree with you on boxing being a lifestyle for anyone who is competing on a higher level. I basically have no life anymore. But if I did socialize a ton, go out with my buddies and all that. I wouldn't be where I am in the sport today. No where near.

wish the gym im at could do that but they need the cash

you get a heap of 12 year old kid sthinking there hard talking big and pissing me off cause they dont train and act hard and star asking why they aint fighting

this pisses me off as i came to the gym trained hard and was asked to start fighting as one of the coaches saw potential in me

now these guys expect it. it pisses me off big time

[Charles White]

Alas, it has been my ultimate dream in life to become a great trainer of boxing champions, but so far I have had a hard time making this dream into a reality. I live in Washington State (people aren't very big on boxing here), and in a VERY rural part of it, so it is hard to find others in the boxing industry to teach me the ways of the trainer. I was working with a girl that went to the same college as me. Tough farm girl with a mean overhand right, but she didn't want to committ to it.:-(

[GPater11093]

Charles I'm saving up all my money to go to the U.S for a year and drift in and out of different gyms in about 2 years time so if you have a gym there ill definitly go along

[Charles White]

Charles I'm saving up all my money to go to the U.S for a year and drift in and out of different gyms in about 2 years time so if you have a gym there ill definitly go along
:good Sounds good mate. We will see.

[joekirkbycobra]

i train people and love it. you do get some ignorant and very passive people but its all worth it wen one of your lads succeed

i also enjoy working the corners more than fighting

[znaak]

I always get so nervous when I'm helping out in the corner. Don't understand why. I love being in the ring myself.

[joekirkbycobra]

I always get so nervous when I'm helping out in the corner. Don't understand why. I love being in the ring myself.
i was a bit like that as first tym i did it i was by myself the person i was doing it with didnt turn up
the bastard
but i handled it well nice and calm
it was an unlicensed fight so i got away with it
no 1 was willing to help we were the only scousers ther

[jimmie]

Ive trained several people over the years for various reasons but it always seem that the one who so badly wanna be fighters never work out for me. They say Jim I cant afford a gym right now so can you help me and I work with them and they just dont listen or they question my methods or cancel are sessions 10 minutes before they start or cant make it through simple ass workouts and start complaining. Ive used boxing to help folks lose weight before women actually and they worked there asses of much harder then the men ive worked with. Im free so I dont see what the problem is.

[amy]

Ive trained several people over the years for various reasons but it always seem that the one who so badly wanna be fighters never work out for me. They say Jim I cant afford a gym right now so can you help me and I work with them and they just dont listen or they question my methods or cancel are sessions 10 minutes before they start or cant make it through simple ass workouts and start complaining. Ive used boxing to help folks lose weight before women actually and they worked there asses of much harder then the men ive worked with. Im free so I dont see what the problem is.

Almost every coach I've talked to has always said that their women are the ones who train the hardest.

[amy]

I always get so nervous when I'm helping out in the corner. Don't understand why. I love being in the ring myself.

I get more nervous holding the spit bucket than I do for my own fights. :rofl

[jimmie]

I agree with your last 2 post Amy the women work harder it seems they have a serious goal and work hard to acheive it while you got plenty of men who just wanna box to make themselves look tough but they soon find out they arent tough enough to handle some basic training I ease people into these things but these dudes cant hack it freaking hillarious. I also get more nervous cornering someone im shaking badly and im an emotional wreck in the corner or if im watching a trainer or teamate of mine fight on TV I cant handle it but in the Ring or Cage myself im very calm.

[RDJ]

Almost every coach I've talked to has always said that their women are the ones who train the hardest.

I'd say that's true for my gym as well. It's a man's world so I guess the only ones that stick around are the motivated ones.

[amy]

I'd say that's true for my gym as well. It's a man's world so I guess the only ones that stick around are the motivated ones.

Yeah, it's a weird combination of not having a ego with anything to prove and having everything to prove because people say you shouldn't be there.

[Boxaholic]

Yeah, it's a weird combination of not having a ego with anything to prove and having everything to prove

to prove you have heart, dedication, and discipline.

[The Predator]

I train both guys and girls and i have to agree, the girls are easier to train, they listen more and train harder in a way, some of the guys train hard of course but a big difference is that most of the guys act like they where worldchampions with the attitude " I know all that", the girls listen and focus and then do the work.
All the best
the Predator

[Boxaholic]

My coach gets me to help with the coaching and I usually just show people the basics, do a pads with them when they start to figure out form and explain what the different equipment is for. I only do this when he's busy and he asks me.

I hate putting my training aside and doing it but I also want more people to keep with it since alot of people will stay until they can spar (maybe...) and after about 2 or 3 times sparring they quit. I agree with the rest of you, the women want to work hard and some of the guys just want to LOOK like they are. I've seen the biggest improvements in every aspect in the women.

[Primenal]

Well, I started this thread because I thought this kid quit on me because he got a g/f, but I'm proud to stay he stuck it out, and I got him better than I ever thought I could.
He's just fighting toughman on Jan 30th/ 31st, but never had any fighting experience before I started training him last thanksgiving. Now, I must say he's a FORCE that I'm not sure I could beat in a real boxing match.
First, I saw the potential with the kid cuz he's 6'5, and weighed like 210 at the time (telling me he could shrink down). I knew him, but he told me he wanted to fight, and I told him if he could make it to Light heavyweight (184) then I'd train him. He promised me he could (this was the week of thanksgiving). He drops 10 pounds in no time with just diet/ exercise. 200. Slowly sheds more weight...and got a sticking point of 194. I was KILLING this boy in the gym. I had heaters blasting, I was killing him on the bag/ mits/ speed bag/ etc while I sit and eat LOL. I made sure to not only build up his skill, conditioning, etc, but his confidence. I was telling him how much physichally bigger he is, how not even I (I'm only 5'6 168) could beat him when he develops. So, he couldn't lose the weight, and I got a nutritionist (a guy I know to give him a diet), and proud to say he's 186...Still with 2 1/2 weeks left before the fight! So, he dropped about 24 pounds in 45 days.
I'd have him sparring me like 6 rounds/ 2 minutes each until he couldn't even keep his hands up anymore, and still make him fight. Meanwhile making sure he could take a bit of a punch ;).
Now, like I said I'm not even sure I can beat the kid. I taught him how to beat me basically...A shorter, aggressive fighter. It was so much fun training a tall guy. I basically emulated Wlad, but added more uppercuts to his arsenal, and don't think it could have worked out more perfect.
So, he had to go back to school on sunday, and we had our last sparring session, and I told him "You got every tool to beat me...Today, I want ya to do it." I fought this kid hard, and still I'd say it was a draw, or he edged me out. It was perfect.
He'd jab me to keep me at bay, occasionally throw the big right (he has a nice right).
He's also very good at being aggressive...Pushing you back with the jab/ right
Everytime I'd get low (mike tyson) he'd throw that lead hand uppercut with great success.
Everytime I'd get in to his body he'd that huge right hand uppercut followed by a left hook (or throw a couple hooks, and then do it)...ANd if I were getting the best of him he'd grab me, wrestle me, throw some shots, then he lets go, fires right uppercut, left hook, steps back, and fires a big right hand.

I just couldn't believe...I trained this guy. He's got great cardio, he's got good punching power, a good chin from what I seen, great ring smarts, he's got great movement (I taught him to always be moving), a lot of heart, and now he has a lot of confidence. Any guy in toughman better go for the KO, or this kid is seriously gonna hurt them. Can't wait to see what he's got.

BTW: He also wants to fight amatuers. Told him to see how he liked fighting for real first, and then decide.

[amy]

Whoa! Few problems with that.

1. Tough man contests are not 'real fights'. (quite the opposite actually) They wear more protective gear than amateurs. People really need to get over thinking that club boxing and toughman contests are 'real fights' The rounds are a minute long for Pete's sake!

2. Once you compete in a toughman contest you are banned from amateur boxing for life.

Are you a registered coach Primenal?

[xoum]

yea fuck the toughman shit i watched a video of that on youtube it just looked stupid and pointless get him in the am and get him some different sparring partners, take him to a gym a ask the owner/trainer for some sparring, he need to get used to fighting different opponents. Post a video of your guy.

[Youngblood]

If he is a registered coach...I'll eat my shoes. That's right, my brand new macho mai's. Salt pepper and eat the fukkers.

He started out wanting to weight drain this guy with saunas (like 2 months away)...was informed it is not a good way to go, from many, yet still sweated the guy down. Asks for advice on here, gets sincere responses...but yet still goes on about what he is doing in an improper fashion that is dangerous to the individual.

This for a toughman contest. That will fukk the person from having an option of ever fighting legit. You want to help this person? As in, truly? Get them someone who really wants to help them. You sir, are like one of the people pretending to be doctors on the internet and giving medical advice. No good will come of it.

I personally think you are doing this for yourself. To maybe make you feel empowered in some way. Not to help the person. OR, are just full of shit.

Sorry, it's early, Im grumpy...

[RDJ]

I was KILLING this boy in the gym. I had heaters blasting

Sounds like the killing part wasn't far off, why the fuck would you do that?

[TheRock49]

If he is a registered coach...I'll eat my shoes. That's right, my brand new macho mai's. Salt pepper and eat the fukkers.

He started out wanting to weight drain this guy with saunas (like 2 months away)...was informed it is not a good way to go, from many, yet still sweated the guy down. Asks for advice on here, gets sincere responses...but yet still goes on about what he is doing in an improper fashion that is dangerous to the individual.

This for a toughman contest. That will fukk the person from having an option of ever fighting legit. You want to help this person? As in, truly? Get them someone who really wants to help them. You sir, are like one of the people pretending to be doctors on the internet and giving medical advice. No good will come of it.

I personally think you are doing this for yourself. To maybe make you feel empowered in some way. Not to help the person. OR, are just full of shit.

Sorry, it's early, Im grumpy...

At some points I agree with you, but wow... that was a little harsh... you could of said it nicer...

Has he ever even been to a toughman contest? I've only been to two but they werent anywhere near a boxing match. They were basically street fights with gloves and headgear.

[amy]

At some points I agree with you, but wow... that was a little harsh... you could of said it nicer...

Has he ever even been to a toughman contest? I've only been to two but they werent anywhere near a boxing match. They were basically street fights with gloves and headgear.
Precisely. It really gets in my craw that people take that sh*t serious and then have the audacity to criticize amateur boxing and refer to it as 'not real boxing'. :fire:fire:fire:fire:fire They wear what we wear sparring for actual 'competition', they don't train, they have little to no skill and the rounds are 1 freaking minute. :-(

[TheRock49]

Precisely. It really gets in my craw that people take that sh*t serious and then have the audacity to criticize amateur boxing and refer to it as 'not real boxing'. :fire:fire:fire:fire:fire They wear what we wear sparring for actual 'competition', they don't train, they have little to no skill and the rounds are 1 freaking minute. :-(

Gets in your craw... havent heard that one before. Its not something dirty is it? My being a guy, if I try to say it am I gonna get weird looks? Its not some weird female genetal thing is it?

[amy]

Gets in your craw... havent heard that one before. Its not something dirty is it? My being a guy, if I try to say it am I gonna get weird looks? Its not some weird female genetal thing is it?
I think it's unisex. :lol: Like sand in your butt crack at the beach.

[Primenal]

You cannot fight amatuers if you fight toughman? Are you sure about that??? I know you can't fight toughman if you fought X amount of amatuer fights. I don't see why you can't fight amatuers if you fought toughman...
Anyways, he wanted to be trained, and I did my best training him. As for the weight...He lost it naturally through dieting and exercise. Yeah, I made him work hard, and sweat, but it was lost naturally. Kid never even got in the sauna to weight drain at all....
As for toughman not being a "real fight" I agree. The rounds are only a minute, and your fighting very unskilled opponents. Still though, your fighting people your size/ bigger, and there hitting with everything they got (16 oz gloves/ headgear). So, it's the same thing just a lot easier.
Geez..Dunno why you all have to be so rude about it. This kid used to be really heavy (like 300 pds), made fun of, and had something to prove....That's why he wanted to fight. I just taught him what I knew, and asked the few people around me (that knew what they were doing) advice, and that's all the help I got.
As for my personal gains off him, or feeling empowered. Yeah, I did want to see if I could take a kid, train him, and he win something like this. I don't want to fight any real matches (at least not the time being) so wanted to see what I could do with somebody else. And toughman isn't the most skilled thing to be in, but some of them are actually pretty tough, and *a few* do train. So, if he wins I'll be happy (winner does get a grand)...If he does good (after training him for a month 1/2) I'll be happy.
I'm not a nutritionist, I'm not a conditioning coach, not a pro boxing trainer...Nothing. Just a guy that boxed a bit that taught somebody else all that I knew.......and obviously I don't know everything.
Besides, dumbness goes on at the professional level as well. When you got idiots like Ricky Hatton blowing up to 180, and then coming in to camp everytime having to lose 40 pounds. That's KILLER on your body. You'd think a pro fighter would be smarter, and you think his camp wouldn't allow it. There's lots of fighters like this.

[amy]

Yes, I'm sure. I'm a USA Boxing official, so I know the rules. If you don't believe me, contact USA Boxing.

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[Primenal]

I'll let him know.
Kind of BS. You can't fight toughman if you had 5 amatuer fights. I can understand because you should be pretty skilled by that point, and you should shred these people.
Cannot fight Amatuers if you were in toughman makes no sense though. Unless they look at it being disgraceful to the sport, but I think that's a bit much.

[amy]

You are awarded a cash prize. It takes away your amateur status. They aren't regulated by the same rules and sanctioning bodies. It makes sense to me.

[Primenal]

You are awarded a cash prize. It takes away your amateur status. They aren't regulated by the same rules and sanctioning bodies. It makes sense to me.

So...Does that rule only apply if you WIN toughman? Because the winners are the only ones who take prize money.
It would be crap if some nobody decided to fight toughman for the hell of it (lost), and later on realized he wanted to have a boxing career, and his only shot is turn pro.

[amy]

Win or lose, you're banned for life. There is an appeals process but it costs a lot of money and my bets are that very few are ever approved.

Club boxing/toughman in the state I live in give cash for both winner and loser.

[Youngblood]

Sorry for being rude Primenal. That was uncalled for.

[Primenal]

Sorry for being rude Primenal. That was uncalled for.

Apology accepted. I can understand your guys point, but guess I never made it clear exactly what the boy wanted, and what I went through to train him. I worked his ass off, and like I said made him sweat, but it wasn't unhealthy for him IMO. I worked out with him a lot....So, nothing that I didn't do myself.
Plus, even losing the weight he says he feels a lot better, and he has tons more confidence. He got to learn how to box, he's in the best shape of his life (runs at least a couple miles a day, on top of boxing, a little weight lifting, etc), his stomache is actually flat for the first time in his life (due to dieting), and he's just confident. So, I'm glad I made that happen, and he's a good kid. Very determined.
Only the winner recevies prize money here, but I'm sure he isn't allowed to fight then. Doubt he'll care. He's trained hard for toughman, and plenty of people that he went to school with (that he has something to prove to) are going to be watching so don't see him backing out.
So yeah...I could understand your guys criticisms/ concerns, but he's healthy, and that is what he wants to do.

[Youngblood]

I still disagree with how you are going about it, and for the reasons I mentioned.

These forums can be a good source of information...hell, the internet is a vast resource. But it can be both good and bad.

What I notice, is that you seem to do, then ask later. Then just sorta do whatever. Paying little regard to what is being told to you. And which case I say...why then ask? Why waste mine or anyone else's time typing out a post based on our experience and knowledge to only disregard it. I do like to give back some of what I have learned, in thanks for receiving info. And I also learn more too.

What I am suggesting is, get better informed before you make decisions or help to make decisions for those in this sport. If you want to be a coach, I think that is great. Take a certification course. You'll learn a lot and probably enjoy it. Yes, some athletes do sweat it out from time to time...well-trained athletes and by informed and practised coaches. Have done it myself. But still understand the inherent risk. Understand about boxing. The differences and complications with say having a go at a tough man and amateurs.. If not...you just potentially screwed your friend from participating in the sport as a fighter if it happens. So I hope you'll explain to him now exactly what may happen if he still does fight...well before hand.

I was just frustrated as I kept seeing you coming back and talking of how you are sweating this guy down...and don't feel you are qualified to do so. And noticed other things. I didn't intend to make it personal.

[Primenal]

Yeah. I guess I just wanted to try myself for the most part..So, that's why i do first/ ask 2nd kind of thing. Also, sometimes the more complicated questions you either don't get much of a response, or get flamed (if your doing something people disagree with). like if i were to say last Thanksgiving I was going to train this boy..He weighs 6'5, 210, and needs to get 184 for TOUGHMAN then I'd have gotten the hell flamed out of me. Which honestly I doubted he could do it either...
Skill wise I think I'm a good teacher. I taught him how to use his height, move, fight if some shorter guy gets in on him, clinch if he has to, wrestle (lay his weight on them to wear them out), how to get away from that properly. Also taught him how to fight people his height (though I have no sparring partner for him that tall). So, I thought I did well at teaching him how to fight.
As for the weight loss...he probably knew more than I did. I had access to a nutritionist the whole time (he used to be my martial arts trainer, and has been a nutritionist for about 20 years now), but I really didn't want to use him. He knows his shit, but the guy is just plain strange, and I figured he'd try to help train this boy, and push him in the wrong direction. He teaches JKD which is lead hand in front, and he's a counter puncher really (when he actually boxes). He'd teach this boy that, and it'd be retarded. a kid who's 6'5, 184 fighting pretty much everyone smaller is going to fight lead hand, and counter.
I did actually have to ask him for a diet though, and like I said the kid lost like 7 pounds in a week (while still eating 5-6 times a day). Broccoli, spinach, chicken, egg whites, and tuna (protein shakes allowed as well) LOL. The kid said he still felt great even without any carbs..So that was my main concern. That was a diet to simply just LOSE WEIGHT though while maintaining muscle.
So, everything turned out alright so far, and he's making weight for sure (in a healthy manner).

[Primenal]

Actually I do have a couple questions to ask. First one would be he weighs around 185 morning weight on whatever scale he's weighing himself. I wanted him to be around 180 cuz you never know if the scale is slightly different. So, he's planning on not eating much that day, and he has to weighin at 4:30 PM.
How would he make sure he's going to make the weigh-in? He may lose a couple of pounds in the next couple weeks (i'm hoping) so that way he makes it no problem. It'd be very bad if he were to step on the scale at 185..which is heavyweight.
That comes to my next question...After weigh-in. The fight doesn't actually start til 7:30 PM (3 hours after weigh-in) what should he be eating in that time frame? What kind of warming up should he be doing? There's lots of fights so god knows what time he actually steps in the ring. I know he wants to step in the ring warmed up, and ready to go. Think that's my biggest fear with him...He'd be like Wlad used to be, come in cold, get overwhelmed by somebody, and go down. Though...I really doubt that'll happen in toughman (he's got great conditioning mainly), but you never know...

Any help would be appreciated.

[Flea Man]

I show a couple of kids a few things at my gym. I'm training my nephew as he gave me a dig once with his feet in the right poisition (without prompting) and I thought 'woah!'

I show the kids (aged about 8-11) defensive techniques....a lot of them think boxing is fighting, whereas I show them ways to tie up their opponent, and just be genuinely cagey.

The trainers only show them how to hit the pads and 'keep their hands up', if I had my way my gym (in Southampton, England, pro gym with a couple of decent domestic names) would be full of kids boxing like a mix of B-Hop/Benitez!

[amy]

Actually I do have a couple questions to ask. First one would be he weighs around 185 morning weight on whatever scale he's weighing himself. I wanted him to be around 180 cuz you never know if the scale is slightly different. So, he's planning on not eating much that day, and he has to weighin at 4:30 PM.
How would he make sure he's going to make the weigh-in? He may lose a couple of pounds in the next couple weeks (i'm hoping) so that way he makes it no problem. It'd be very bad if he were to step on the scale at 185..which is heavyweight.
That comes to my next question...After weigh-in. The fight doesn't actually start til 7:30 PM (3 hours after weigh-in) what should he be eating in that time frame? What kind of warming up should he be doing? There's lots of fights so god knows what time he actually steps in the ring. I know he wants to step in the ring warmed up, and ready to go. Think that's my biggest fear with him...He'd be like Wlad used to be, come in cold, get overwhelmed by somebody, and go down. Though...I really doubt that'll happen in toughman (he's got great conditioning mainly), but you never know...

Any help would be appreciated.

I'll answer if you promise to listen to us instead of asking and then doing it your way anyway. :deal

If weigh-in is at 4:30, have him eat first thing when he gets up. (after weighing himself of course) I can't believe they have weigh-ins 3 hours before they fight. Good luck to the guys who are dumb enough to try to sweat off a couple of pounds. If he's under 185 that morning, don't worry about it too much. There's no sense in making a guy go hungry before.

As soon as weigh-in is over have him eat. Energy food, nothing heavy. Slow burning carbs and protein. Something like a big bowl of oatmeal, couple of eggs and a banana. That should last a few hours. Pack some granola bars or something in your bag, if his fight doesn't happen until way late, he'll need something.

For warm up, have him stretch a lot that evening. (he can't stretch too much so just have him do it a lot) Light shadow boxing and some pads. This is his first fight, so 'going in cold' isn't really going to be an issue. The #1 issue with toughman bouts is conditioning and adrenaline dump. You're guy may be in great shape, but don't be surprised if he gets nervous and gasses out. I've seen it happen with boxers who were in top condition said they weren't even nervous. It's not a 10 round pro fight. It's a 3 minute toughman. Just make sure he's warm and sweating a little bit, nothing major and he'll be fine.

[stefanoitch]

i have a really fat friend i try to get in shape, he usally spends he's time playing world of warcraft and really lacks the determination to train hard, its like he thinks he will get in shape without doing the hard work. He also has no job and doesent go to school, feel kind of bad for him so try to help him out

[cord53]

Alas, it has been my ultimate dream in life to become a great trainer of boxing champions, but so far I have had a hard time making this dream into a reality. I live in Washington State (people aren't very big on boxing here), and in a VERY rural part of it, so it is hard to find others in the boxing industry to teach me the ways of the trainer. I was working with a girl that went to the same college as me. Tough farm girl with a mean overhand right, but she didn't want to committ to it.:-(
you have to be patient it takes years. you have to find kids that are dedicated to the sport. i trained fighters for years. if you do get a good one BE AWARE people will try to steal him away from you in the pro ranks.