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Jerellem
01-05-2009, 03:38 PM
I cant how do you get the balance for it?

amy
01-05-2009, 03:39 PM
I can't do them with a wall.

RDJ
01-05-2009, 04:36 PM
I can't do them either, not even a normal handstand without a pushup. I lose all sense of coordination when I'm upside down.

amy
01-05-2009, 05:34 PM
I can't do them either, not even a normal handstand without a pushup. I lose all sense of coordination when I'm upside down.

I get really scared. :lol:

RDJ
01-05-2009, 06:38 PM
I get really scared. :lol:

And for good reason, pain is what follows shortly after. I fell on my hip once when I tried to do a handstand while drunk, never tried it again.

aramini
01-05-2009, 06:44 PM
I do a handstand act in a circus now with two other guys, but I am the secondary base.

You need to think of it just like standing when you lean forward: lean your body forward standing up and see how your toes push to keep you balanced. Now put your arms shoulder length apart, tighten your shoulders so you are pushing straight down, and concentrate on keeping your entire body tight with your legs tight together. Point your toes and think up. You must lean your body slightly forward (ie - so your back would fall on the floor if you were not pushing with your fingertips. In other words, you push slightly slightly with your fingers when you start to go forward, but not enough to knock you all the way down so your feet will come down.) maintain the straight line. I have been trying to upload the video of my act but you tube keeps timing out with my spurious internet connection before it is done.

To get the line right, do a handstand on a wall BUT with your chest facing the wall so your hands can do the work of actually keeping you from falling on your back. Think of it like your feet when you lean forward and that helps, pushing and relaxing but keeping everything else tight.

aramini
01-05-2009, 09:43 PM
Now we do this on a forklift that raises us up. I am the tall skinny one on the right and upside down with the guy on my feet. He is almost 200 now, a little heavy for this stuff.

I know the outfits are gay. Not my fault. My wife's father owns a circus.

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joekirkbycobra
01-06-2009, 02:27 AM
ive never left the wall
im scared enough with the wall

Boxaholic
01-06-2009, 11:14 AM
Only way I do them is going from an L-sit to a handstand, Ive found that the fact that your moving a rotating around yourself helps you keep your balance better. It makes it a bit harder strength wise but balance wise its not bad. I always had the strength but not the balance to do them and this way works for me.

Ingar
01-06-2009, 01:56 PM
Hahaha, I always wondered where you've gone, Aramini. Never in a million years would I have thought the phrase "He joined the circus" would be right. :lol:

I can do handstands, but I haven't really trained anything for it, so I don't have the balance to do pushups in a handstand yet.

Jerellem
01-06-2009, 02:53 PM
Thanks for all the help everyone but lol aramani. Yall must be strong

ralphc
01-06-2009, 03:18 PM
I cant how do you get the balance for it?


Just practise. Sooner or later you will figure out how to do it.

When I was young this was standard training. Kids don't do it today because they are too busy having fun pumping iron. Back in those days we called it "multi-function" training. I suppose every generation has its buzzwords. Nevertheless, doing handstand push-ups trains not only the muscles but also improves your sense of balance. Balance is very important in boxing, much more important than the so called strength training that we always hear about.

Boxaholic
01-06-2009, 03:43 PM
Just practise. Sooner or later you will figure out how to do it.

When I was young this was standard training. Kids don't do it today because they are too busy having fun pumping iron. Back in those days we called it "multi-function" training. I suppose every generation has its buzzwords. Nevertheless, doing handstand push-ups trains not only the muscles but also improves your sense of balance. Balance is very important in boxing, much more important than the so called strength training that we always hear about.

very true

RDJ
01-06-2009, 03:46 PM
Just practise. Sooner or later you will figure out how to do it.

When I was young this was standard training. Kids don't do it today because they are too busy having fun pumping iron. Back in those days we called it "multi-function" training. I suppose every generation has its buzzwords. Nevertheless, doing handstand push-ups trains not only the muscles but also improves your sense of balance. Balance is very important in boxing, much more important than the so called strength training that we always hear about.

Joe Calzaghe never boxed doing a handstand :bart

I agree balance is important btw, nearly every aspect of physical fitness is underrated in favour of strength. I'm not so sure balance will improve by standing upside down though ;)

GPater11093
01-06-2009, 04:30 PM
i hate balancing and that i want y feet firmly on the ground thats where i have good balance

aramini
01-06-2009, 09:47 PM
Hahaha, I always wondered where you've gone, Aramini. Never in a million years would I have thought the phrase "He joined the circus" would be right. :lol:

I can do handstands, but I haven't really trained anything for it, so I don't have the balance to do pushups in a handstand yet.

It's my woman's fault. I was working in a bank and fairly happy. Then she didn't want to leave her Mexican family circus so I figured I'd try it out for a bit. Now I find the locations, get the permits from the cities, help put up and take down the tent, perform in the show, count the concession people, run and fill the atm, and all for what? We'll see how long I can put up with it.

One reporter saw me exercising and erroneously assumed joining the circus had gotten me in better shape, never realizing my obsessive training had been largely curtailed by this bizarre profession.

The top handstand guy is a bit prone to pudginess genetically but he works out a lot and is a phenomenal juggler. I figured his coordination would hold him in good stead for sparring but it just doesn't carry over for some reason. I can't juggle to save my life, but my hands were way too fast for him.

So no, I don't think handstands will help you box, but will improve your control over your body, which is something.

ralphc
01-07-2009, 12:23 PM
It's my woman's fault. I was working in a bank and fairly happy. Then she didn't want to leave her Mexican family circus so I figured I'd try it out for a bit. Now I find the locations, get the permits from the cities, help put up and take down the tent, perform in the show, count the concession people, run and fill the atm, and all for what? We'll see how long I can put up with it.

One reporter saw me exercising and erroneously assumed joining the circus had gotten me in better shape, never realizing my obsessive training had been largely curtailed by this bizarre profession.

The top handstand guy is a bit prone to pudginess genetically but he works out a lot and is a phenomenal juggler. I figured his coordination would hold him in good stead for sparring but it just doesn't carry over for some reason. I can't juggle to save my life, but my hands were way too fast for him.

So no, I don't think handstands will help you box, but will improve your control over your body, which is something.



Years ago I remember the oldtimers telling me about the handstand races they would have across the gym, and everybody in the neighborhood would come over and bet on the result! I don't believe for one minute that winning the handstand race will make you a world champion, but it provides an additional way to train the body and mind.

Juggling is another old training method which seems to have fallen into disuse. Like everything else about boxing it is relatively simple and cheap way of training. I don't think too many people would disagree that learning to juggle has to be a way of improving hand /eye coordination. Of course even if you become the best juggler in the world, that doesn't mean you are going to beat Floyd Mayweather. All we can do as individuals is try to achieve our full potential. Guys like Mayweather were born with a lot more potential than the rest of us mere mortals.

cockneyhardman
01-08-2009, 12:23 PM
Just practise. Sooner or later you will figure out how to do it.

When I was young this was standard training. Kids don't do it today because they are too busy having fun pumping iron. Back in those days we called it "multi-function" training. I suppose every generation has its buzzwords. Nevertheless, doing handstand push-ups trains not only the muscles but also improves your sense of balance. Balance is very important in boxing, much more important than the so called strength training that we always hear about.

sounds like a contradiction there
that is basically pushing your entire bodyweight also in a movement pattern that is totally alien to boxing movements

ralphc
01-08-2009, 01:31 PM
sounds like a contradiction there
that is basically pushing your entire bodyweight also in a movement pattern that is totally alien to boxing movements


The whole body needs to be exercised not just a few pertinent muscles.

cockneyhardman
01-09-2009, 12:06 AM
The whole body needs to be exercised not just a few pertinent muscles.

then a better way would be to do an olympic lift but that involves "pumping iron" so you won't agree with that simple logic anyway because it is heresy against your old school religion

what other old school stuff do you propose?
long distance jogging? (which is useless)
eating steak instead of fish?

ralphc
01-10-2009, 04:32 AM
then a better way would be to do an olympic lift but that involves "pumping iron" so you won't agree with that simple logic anyway because it is heresy against your old school religion

what other old school stuff do you propose?
long distance jogging? (which is useless)
eating steak instead of fish?



I propose to avoid talking a lot of psuedo-scientific claptrap which only the nerds hiding behind their computers find entertaining.

Pugsley
01-15-2009, 08:01 AM
I've heard that a handstand requires a lot of strength in the trunk to hold the legs upright. Because once the back bends inwards, you lose lower body strength and collapse is imminent. Is that true?

Neither could I have guessed that you were in a circus. It sounds cool though.

I do a handstand act in a circus now with two other guys, but I am the secondary base.

You need to think of it just like standing when you lean forward: lean your body forward standing up and see how your toes push to keep you balanced. Now put your arms shoulder length apart, tighten your shoulders so you are pushing straight down, and concentrate on keeping your entire body tight with your legs tight together. Point your toes and think up. You must lean your body slightly forward (ie - so your back would fall on the floor if you were not pushing with your fingertips. In other words, you push slightly slightly with your fingers when you start to go forward, but not enough to knock you all the way down so your feet will come down.) maintain the straight line. I have been trying to upload the video of my act but you tube keeps timing out with my spurious internet connection before it is done.

To get the line right, do a handstand on a wall BUT with your chest facing the wall so your hands can do the work of actually keeping you from falling on your back. Think of it like your feet when you lean forward and that helps, pushing and relaxing but keeping everything else tight.

Seven Chance
01-15-2009, 08:09 AM
this is so weird the day before yesterday we (meaning my wrestling team) started trying to do handstand pushups. I can get down but when i push up i always lose my balance.

ralphc
01-15-2009, 12:28 PM
this is so weird the day before yesterday we (meaning my wrestling team) started trying to do handstand pushups. I can get down but when i push up i always lose my balance.


Takes a lot of practise. Persevere and it won't be long before you can walk up and down the stairs on your hands. I'm not sure it will make you a better wrestler, but it make for an impressive display.

Seven Chance
01-15-2009, 08:44 PM
I was able to do One today, but even after like 100 other tries I couldn't do it again. I just found that sweet spot and balanced perfectly.