Name that Pugilist.

[Stonehands89]

Who are the men pictured on my avatar?

[ChrisPontius]

Rocky Mack and Tony Galento?

[Stonehands89]

One is right. Galento.

[McGrain]

They look like they should be fixing fights, not boxing in them.

[Bobby Tony]

Are they Rocky Graziano and Tony Galento?

I like McGrain's comment

[Manassa]

Galento looks more like a fat Tony Canzoneri in this one.

The one on the right looks a bit like Joey Maxim to me, but he's too old. Tami Mauriello?

[mightyd40]

sorry to get off topic but mcgrain is liston your favorite all time fighter? i have noticed a lot of your avatar pics with him in it.......and other than tubby tony idk who the other guy is

[Stonehands89]

Manassa wins the no-prize.

Now... McGrain made an astute observation. That is the hint for the next question: what are the circumstances of the picture?

[McGrain]

Manassa wins the no-prize.

Now... McGrain made an astute observation. That is the hint for the next question: what are the circumstances of the picture?

Is it the Kauffman hearings?

[McGrain]

sorry to get off topic but mcgrain is liston your favorite all time fighter? i have noticed a lot of your avatar pics with him in it.......and other than tubby tony idk who the other guy is


My favourite heavy...one of my favourite fighters, top 5 for sure.

Charley Burley is probably my favourite fighter.

You like Liston?

[mightyd40]

My favourite heavy...one of my favourite fighters, top 5 for sure.

Charley Burley is probably my favourite fighter.

You like Liston?
i have a pet boxer and named him liston so yes definatly.....second fav all time.....sorry stonehands for the topic blurp

[Manassa]

It's either to do with a film or some sort of public appearance - for what, I have no idea.

[McGrain]

i have a pet boxer and named him liston so yes definatly


Quality

[McGrain]

It's either to do with a film or some sort of public appearance - for what, I have no idea.


Were they in "On the Waterfront"?

[My dinner with Conteh]

On The Waterfront

[Manassa]

I haven't seen that film. It's on my 'to buy' list.

[Stonehands89]

Yah beauty-ful.

I think it was one of the first scenes.

[Stonehands89]

I haven't seen that film. It's on my 'to buy' list.

That "I coulda been a contendah" speech in the cab still holds up. Great, great movie.

[My dinner with Conteh]

It's a bit dated actually but the acting is just top notch. It's not really a boxing film but it's worth seeing the performances of the pugs. Karl Malden's performance is very underrated.


Check out "The Outfit" when you ever have the chance. Roland La Starza is a hitman and Archie Moore does an even finer turn, with some decent air time.

[McGrain]

Imagine them coming round to your house to pick up the money you owed.

[My dinner with Conteh]

That "I coulda been a contendah" speech in the cab still holds up. Great, great movie.


It does. Steiger's part in the cab gets overshadowed (unfairly) I thought. Both were equal.

[Stonehands89]

It's a bit dated actually but the acting is just top notch. It's not really a boxing film but it's worth seeing the performances of the pugs. Karl Malden's performance is very underrated.


Check out "The Outfit" when you ever have the chance. Roland La Starza is a hitman and Archie Moore does an even finer turn, with some decent air time.

How about Robert Ryan in "The Set-Up"? -one of the best film noirs around.

[Stonehands89]

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[My dinner with Conteh]

How about Robert Ryan in "The Set-Up"? -one of the best film noirs around.


In my top 3 fight films. The others being Raging Bull and Fat City. Never underestimate the guy that's past it. He may just have one good fight left in him. :good

[Stonehands89]

It's a bit dated actually but the acting is just top notch. It's not really a boxing film but it's worth seeing the performances of the pugs. Karl Malden's performance is very underrated.


Check out "The Outfit" when you ever have the chance. Roland La Starza is a hitman and Archie Moore does an even finer turn, with some decent air time.

Come to think of it --I think Lamotta was a bartender in "The Hustler" --another great film. Gleason proved that fat men can be cool.

[My dinner with Conteh]

I forgot that one. But i'll never forget:

"Fat man you shoot a great game of pool"

"So do you fast eddie"

[Stonehands89]

who are the ones on either side of Louis?

[Manassa]

who are the ones on either side of Louis?

I'm going for Harry Wills and Panama Joe Gans. But I know that because I looked up the same photograph not that long ago.

[Stonehands89]

A gentleman and a scholar. Another no-prize!

[Stonehands89]

Who is THIS??

[My dinner with Conteh]

Tiger?

[Manassa]

Dick Tiger.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Name the fight:


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[Manassa]

Jofre-Caldwell.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Well done.

[Manassa]

Well done.

Nah, it says it in the properties of the photograph :lol:

To disguise it I think you need to have it either as your avatar or as an attachment.

[Stonehands89]

Tiger?

Conteh gets the no-prize.

Try this one... it's not easy. There are 3 fighters here:

[Stonehands89]

...

[Stonehands89]

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[mcvey]

Who are the men pictured on my avatar?
Tony Galento and Tami Mauriello,is it a still from On The Waterfront?

[Stonehands89]

Yah late, but yah still right.

[Manassa]

Is the one on the far left Pasqual Perez? The black bloke sitting down looks suspiciously like Archie Moore from a distance.

[Stonehands89]

Is the one on the far left Pasqual Perez? The black bloke sitting down looks suspiciously like Archie Moore from a distance.

Ha! I thought the same thing. Here's a hint: The second guy from the left is Kid Azteca. There's some context for you. And the guy on the far right is a no-name butt-licker (though the expression on his face is the giveaway).

[mcvey]

Galento looks more like a fat Tony Canzoneri in this one.

The one on the right looks a bit like Joey Maxim to me, but he's too old. Tami Mauriello?
mauriello tagged Louis and momentarily stunned him,then went for broke ,and the Bomber chilled him ,Mauriello ,s quote,allways makes me laugh,"I had him but I got too goddam careless"went down a treat on live radio!

[Manassa]

Is the third one Baby Arizmendi?

[mcvey]

It does. Steiger's part in the cab gets overshadowed (unfairly) I thought. Both were equal.
Yes and it was Steigers first film part,Lee J Cobb is excellent too,a great film.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Is the third one Baby Arizmendi?


I was just gonna say that :twisted:


Hope it's wrong now. ;)

[mcvey]

I haven't seen that film. It's on my 'to buy' list.
If you get it you will see that Brando has a bit of his eyebrow missing as though from scar tissue,to prep for the role he became great friends with Roger Donaghue a ranked fighter,Donaghue was the model for Brandos make up ,even down to the puffy eye and "scars".

[Manassa]

I was just gonna say that :twisted:


Hope it's wrong now. ;)

Too slow, old man :cool:

If you get it you will see that Brando has a bit of his eyebrow missing as though from scar tissue,to prep for the role he became great friends with Roger Donaghue a ranked fighter,Donaghue was the model for Brandos make up ,even down to the puffy eye and "scars".

Ye know too much.

[Bummy Davis]

Good movie a lot of old fighters, I think Slapzie Maxie Rosenberg was in it, Tami M.TonyG. and a few other charactor faces

[mcvey]

In my top 3 fight films. The others being Raging Bull and Fat City. Never underestimate the guy that's past it. He may just have one good fight left in him. :good
Ryan was a good college boxer,a pretty tough man in real life ,very underated actor too imo,his portrayal of "Stoker "is magic.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Too slow, old man :cool:


Reminds me of Robert Shaw into From Russia With Love. :D

[Stonehands89]

Manassa is correct. Sorry Conteh. Third guy on the left is Arizmendi. The first guy on the left is also a Baby...

[My dinner with Conteh]

Yes and it was Steigers first film part,Lee J Cobb is excellent too,a great film.


Steiger was an amazing actor.

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Vintage Rod. He lost out on the Oscar to Lee Marvin in Cat Ballou too (I think). :patsch

[Stonehands89]

Ryan was a good college boxer,a pretty tough man in real life ,very underated actor too imo,his portrayal of "Stoker "is magic.

Ryan is an all-time favorite of mine. He was great in "Crossfire" too. As far as "real-life tough guys" go, Word was that Ryan and Mitchum were serious guys who were certified ass-kickers.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Manassa is correct. Sorry Conteh. Third guy on the left is Arizmendi. The first guy on the left is also a Baby...


Damn I hate it when that happens. I thought "I'm sure it's BA but says it's not and someone laughs". :D

[Stonehands89]

Damn I hate it when that happens. I thought "I'm sure it's BA but says it's not and someone laughs". :D

Nah.. if anyone laughs, be like Thunderpower after he said that Duran got Kod in his prime and PBF had as good a right as Hearns -and claim to be "only kidding".

[Tommy Hearns]

Baby Casanova?

[My dinner with Conteh]

Nah.. if anyone laughs, be like Thunderpower after he said that Duran got Kod in his prime and PBF had as good a right as Hearns -and claim to be "only kidding".


People have been murdered for far less.

[mcvey]

Too slow, old man :cool:



Ye know too much.
Ive been around a long time,bound to pick up some trivia along the way

[Stonehands89]

Baby Casanova?

Tommy Hearns comes out of nowhere and gets the no-prize!

[Stonehands89]

Manassa, here's a present for you. Who'se the cool cat in the middle?

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[Manassa]

Well it's either Gene Fullmer or Ike Williams. I'll go with the latter.

[Stonehands89]

How about a "gee, thanks, Stonehands, for being so thoughtful."

Here's super difficult one. Guy on the right. My avatar.

[Manassa]

Not Kitten Hayward is it? With The Cyclone?

[Tommy Hearns]

How about a "gee, thanks, Stonehands, for being so thoughtful."

Here's super difficult one. Guy on the right. My avatar.The guy on the left looks like Eugene Hart. Can't figure out the other one.

[Tommy Hearns]

Not Kitten Hayward is it? With The Cyclone?I think your right.

[Stonehands89]

Not Kitten Hayward is it? With The Cyclone?

Indeed! From 1971. Kitten Hayward had a gigolo's name if there ever was one -and he resembled Robinson a bit. Well, he tried to at least! No one was konking their hair in the 70s except for the pimps and the playboys!

[Manassa]

Gimme more, gimme more :cool:

[mcvey]

Ryan is an all-time favorite of mine. He was great in "Crossfire" too. As far as "real-life tough guys" go, Word was that Ryan and Mitchum were serious guys who were certified ass-kickers.
Jack Palance was another guy who could hold his hands up,boxed pro.He would have been my choice to play Dempsey.

[Stonehands89]

okay.... who's this guy? He was a helluva prospect in the 60's.

[Manassa]

Gypsy Joe Harris. I swear on my life I'm not looking these up. I'm just familiar with Philadelphian fighters.

[Stonehands89]

I beleive you! And who can mistake Gypsy Joe's forehead? Is it a five-head?

[Tommy Hearns]

Hmmm. Let's see if anyone can guess the fighter on the right (no cheating):

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[Stonehands89]

Who's this one...

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[Manassa]

Hmmm. Let's see if anyone can guess the fighter on the right (no cheating):

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There's no mistaking Ortega's face.

[mcvey]

Hmmm. Let's see if anyone can guess the fighter on the right (no cheating):

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Gaspar Ortega?

[Manassa]

I didn't look at the Ortega one, knew his face, but the Apostoli one I cheated on. Better to make the images as attachments so nobody can cheat.

[mcvey]

Who's this one...

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Is it Joe Rindone?

[mcvey]

Gimme more, gimme more :cool:
Trivia question for you,young man Roger Donaghue though he never fought either ,is considered to have been partially responsible for Robinson,s win over Turpin,how so?

[Manassa]

Trivia question for you,young man Roger Donaghue though he never fought either ,is considered to have been partially responsible for Robinson,s win over Turpin,how so?

Haven't a clue :oops:

[Stonehands89]

Trivia question for you,young man Roger Donaghue though he never fought either ,is considered to have been partially responsible for Robinson,s win over Turpin,how so?

...I know of Donaghue because he actually trained Brando for "On the Waterfront"... he also coined the phrase "couilda beena contendah"! He killed a man in the ring around the time of the Turpin rematch. The man's name was Florez. I would offer an educated guess that the hasty stoppage of Turpin may have been because of the ghost of Flores.

[Tommy Hearns]

A harder one:

[Manassa]

I thought the stoppage was good. Turpin had been knocked down and looked pretty helpless as Robinson delivered a volley of desperate punches, one of them, a right hand, landing in a particularly brutal fashion.

[Tommy Hearns]

Middleweight contender from the fifties.

[mcvey]

Haven't a clue :oops:
Donaghue fought a guy called George Flores in the Garden Flores died Donaghue retired,just after this Robinson and Turpin had their rematch,the flores fatality is generally considered to have influenced Goldstein to jump in and stop the fight,Turpin was on the ropes but if you remember he isnt taking much punishment,amazingly Ray cant nail him with the finisher,remember this is 1951 fights went on longer then,so that is the influence,Donaghue trained Brando for the role of Terry Malloy,he evn gave Budd Shulberg the famous line,Budd asked Roger ,how far he might have gone if the tragedy hadnt happened,he replied"well I did used to cut ,but I could have been a contender",Shulberg remembered it and its in the film.

[mcvey]

...I know of Donaghue because he actually trained Brando for "On the Waterfront"... he also coined the phrase "couilda beena contendah"! He killed a man in the ring around the time of the Turpin rematch. The man's name was Florez. I would offer an educated guess that the hasty stoppage of Turpin may have been because of the ghost of Flores.
Right on!

[Manassa]

Willie Vaughn? I don't know, there were a lot of talented black middleweights around that time and they all looked similar.

[Tommy Hearns]

I'll give you a hint: he was deaf.

[Manassa]

I'll give you a hint: he was deaf.

Ohhh, Hairston. Should have known that.

[mcvey]

I thought the stoppage was good. Turpin had been knocked down and looked pretty helpless as Robinson delivered a volley of desperate punches, one of them, a right hand, landing in a particularly brutal fashion.
By todays standards you are probably right,but we are talking 56 years ago,ironically Goldstein was the unfortuanate third man in the ring when Griffith had the last fight with Benny Paret,Ruby refereed one more fight and retired.Gene Fullmer went on record as saying he felt responsible for |Parets death ,as he had given him a terrible pounding earlier.

[Tommy Hearns]

Ohhh, Hairston. Should have known that.Correct