PRIDE vs UFC [Archive] - East Side Boxing Forum

AJAX

01-07-2009, 08:32 PM

Since UFC`s purchase of PRIDE has this been for the betterment of MMA as a whole? Have we seen the matchups that we were not seeing when both orgs were seperate?

honest to God.... stop the :| already! I certainly like it more seeing Wand,Hendo.CC,Nog, Soko fight in the UFC for sure. Some have done better then others but I like seeing the best fight the best.

BTW what percentage of your posts are bitching about the UFC?

rydersonthestorm

01-07-2009, 09:39 PM

Since UFC`s purchase of PRIDE has this been for the betterment of MMA as a whole? Have we seen the matchups that we were not seeing when both orgs were seperate?
i much prefered it when thye were sperate the pride orgnisation put on a much better show than ufc, i used to love mma but since tyhe takeover i have ben drifting away from the sport.

FINITO

01-07-2009, 09:56 PM

Im not much of an MMA fan but I thought PRIDE had better fighters with higher quality matchups.

IMO both Pride and K-1 is better than UFC.

québecwarrior

01-07-2009, 09:57 PM

honest to God.... stop the :| already! I certainly like it more seeing Wand,Hendo.CC,Nog, Soko fight in the UFC for sure. Some have done better then others but I like seeing the best fight the best.

BTW what percentage of your posts are bitching about the UFC?

50percent for that, and 50 percent against Ricky Hatton

rydersonthestorm

01-07-2009, 09:58 PM

50percent for that, and 50 percent against Ricky Hatton
still less than your 100% of nut hugging canadian fighters :hi:

québecwarrior

01-07-2009, 10:03 PM

still less than your 100% of nut hugging canadian fighters :hi:
apart from GSP, and Cote for his chin and power?Who?

Matt Hamill is canadian? I didnt know

:huh

fail, dumbass

rydersonthestorm

01-07-2009, 10:05 PM

apart from GSP, and Cote for his chin and power?Who?

Matt Hamill is canadian? I didnt know

:huh

fail, dumbass
gsp and cote is enough you can't hear a word againt either of them and to be honest it is quite silly i will be glad when bj beats your boy just like anderson did.

jimmie

01-07-2009, 10:11 PM

Well we got Wanderlei Silva vs Chuck Liddell finally we have had Nogueira vs Sylvia and Mir and others. We are finally getting Henderson vs Franklin. Im sorry but its a damn good thing.

québecwarrior

01-07-2009, 10:11 PM

gsp and cote is enough you can't hear a word againt either of them and to be honest it is quite silly i will be glad when bj beats your boy just like anderson did.
bj penn nuthugger :|:|:|

Oh you mean, he will make GSP hurt his knee by doing nothing, then getting booed by the crowd because he was a doing a clown of himself? so much for the fucker who were all saying Silva by rape first round. Yes sure, Silva didnt even wobble Cote, nothing. For a gatekeeper who was supposed to lose by sub in 12 second vs Almeida, that's not bad right?:hi:

québecwarrior

01-07-2009, 10:11 PM

jimmie

01-07-2009, 10:13 PM

Hendo will take it

I dont think so but we shall see.

rydersonthestorm

01-07-2009, 10:13 PM

bj penn nuthugger :|:|:|

Oh you mean, he will make GSP hurt his knee by doing nothing, then getting booed by the crowd because he was a doing a clown of himself? so much for the fucker who were all saying Silva by rape first round. Yes sure, Silva didnt even wobble Cote, nothing. For a gatekeeper who was supposed to lose by sub in 12 second vs Almeida, that's not bad right?:hi:
suddenly i am a bj penn nuthugger typical repsonse from the most bias oposter on the mma forum,
anerson silva bj penn and fedor are just better fighters than gsp nothng to be ashamed of being the 4th best guy around is still amazing.

rydersonthestorm

01-07-2009, 10:14 PM

Well we got Wanderlei Silva vs Chuck Liddell finally we have had Nogueira vs Sylvia and Mir and others. We are finally getting Henderson vs Franklin. Im sorry but its a damn good thing.
getting to see these fights years to late when the guys are well past prime not exactly what everyone wanted to see. Also the gp format of pride was far more exiting than anytihng the ufc can offer.

jimmie

01-07-2009, 10:19 PM

getting to see these fights years to late when the guys are well past prime not exactly what everyone wanted to see. Also the gp format of pride was far more exiting than anytihng the ufc can offer.

UFC must be doing something right last time I checked they are still doing shows.

codeman99998

01-07-2009, 10:20 PM

suddenly i am a bj penn nuthugger typical repsonse from the most bias oposter on the mma forum,
anerson silva bj penn and fedor are just better fighters than gsp nothng to be ashamed of being the 4th best guy around is still amazing.

GSP already beat Penn once...

rydersonthestorm

01-07-2009, 10:22 PM

GSP already beat Penn once...
well as bj is from the weight class below and also fought a very close fight i would still rank him higher. I also don't think gsp did alot to win the fight other than try and hold bj down which gives you points in ufc scoring but doesn't really work as you can do very little in a fight and just lay and pray and get the win.

rydersonthestorm

01-07-2009, 10:23 PM

UFC must be doing something right last time I checked they are still doing shows.
yeah buying up the competion so people who watch mma have to watch there shows as they have no real alternative.

jimmie

01-07-2009, 10:25 PM

yeah buying up the competion so people who watch mma have to watch there shows as they have no real alternative.

So ? They did what they have to do and picked of some of the top fighters in the sport to make their company better and the sport better so we now have the majority of the top guys fighting under one company. Dont get mad at me because the Pride fighters arent kicking UFCs ass like everyone expected them to.

rydersonthestorm

01-07-2009, 10:29 PM

So ? They did what they have to do and picked of some of the top fighters in the sport to make their company better and the sport better so we now have the majority of the top guys fighting under one company. Dont get mad at me because the Pride fighters arent kicking UFCs ass like everyone expected them to.
i am not bothered about which ifhgters beat which i have wached mma for a very long time and much prefer the format of the japanese mma events such as pride. I prefered the action, the ten minute first round the way fighting and not worthless takedowns and lay and pray was encouraged. Also the gp's were amazing i still watch them quite abit now as they have some of the best mma fights of all time in there.

Beebs

01-08-2009, 12:59 AM

yeah buying up the competion so people who watch mma have to watch there shows as they have no real alternative.

You clearly don't know shit.

There is more MMA on TV than anytime in the history of the sport, its on Spike, VS, HDnet, Showtime, and some local stations.

Not to mention Affliction, WVR, and all the other great shows.

Everybody needs to get the sand out of the vagina, quit being bitches, and realize that an org that never drug tested, never forced people to make weight unless they wanted that person to lose, payed out extra for fighters to lose by submission, never let opponents know who they were fighting, and were taking their orders from the mob deserves to die.

The UFC bought Pride because it is a better company, end of discussion.

Bitch like a school girl all you want about how much better the fights were in Pride, they were not, but realize that many of those fights were "directed" in a specific way to appeal to the fanbase. At least with the UFC you know what you are watching is always real.

Griip

01-08-2009, 06:52 AM

UFC has it's flaws but as Beebs say Pride had more. UFC hype their up and coming fighters and Dana personally says this and that fighters is the best etc etc, that's their bullshit. Pride fed their stars with worthless asian fighters once in a while, both to help a comeback and to just make their stars get experience and stats.

What I see as a big problem however is that UFC speaks alot TO the americans. I can here in Sweden see all UFC events live on TV without any ppv, yet Pride somehow felt more international. But, UFC will get better and better and I actually believe it will be spread over europe in just a few years(Not counting shows but fighters, pr etc etc). In Japan this whole MMA thing is like football or baseball in USA, but the problem with that is that we get to see fighters like Giant Silva, Bob sapp etc etc(Even though they can be very amusing :)). And they've been hanging on to their big stars not letting in new talents as good as UFC does. Today UFC has as far as I know all the upcoming fighters. But they still lack a good HW league.

rydersonthestorm

01-08-2009, 08:18 AM

You clearly don't know shit.

There is more MMA on TV than anytime in the history of the sport, its on Spike, VS, HDnet, Showtime, and some local stations.

Not to mention Affliction, WVR, and all the other great shows.

Everybody needs to get the sand out of the vagina, quit being bitches, and realize that an org that never drug tested, never forced people to make weight unless they wanted that person to lose, payed out extra for fighters to lose by submission, never let opponents know who they were fighting, and were taking their orders from the mob deserves to die.

The UFC bought Pride because it is a better company, end of discussion.

Bitch like a school girl all you want about how much better the fights were in Pride, they were not, but realize that many of those fights were "directed" in a specific way to appeal to the fanbase. At least with the UFC you know what you are watching is always real.
you can shut the fuck up moron not everyone lives in america and has those tv channels so no there is not as much mma on my tv as there was before.

Also i enjoyed wtahcing pride more thats upto me isn't it you are the one wih sand in the vagina so go fuck yourself, i liked the set up of pride and i can liek whatever i want so fuck off you stupid wanker.

Koa

01-08-2009, 08:29 AM

I think the UFC is making a slow progression to being more international. I like that TUF has been including more and more talent from outside the U.S.

I hope that some day they will scout for more talent though the world especially Asia, Russia, and the Nordic region. Offer interpreters for them, or even just bring in a good mixes of talent from a single nation to keep it interesting and not too confusing.. Imagine how competitive Russian and Americans would be.. The possibilities are very interesting.

Dostoevsky

01-08-2009, 11:18 AM

you can shut the fuck up moron not everyone lives in america and has those tv channels so no there is not as much mma on my tv as there was before.

Also i enjoyed wtahcing pride more thats upto me isn't it you are the one wih sand in the vagina so go fuck yourself, i liked the set up of pride and i can liek whatever i want so fuck off you stupid wanker.

Stop talking shit, Pride was never broadcast in Britain.

Stop crying like a bitch, the shower of shit of a show is dead because it was a shitty promotion run by crooks that was fraudulant and didn't pay fighters properly (and significantly less than UFC btw) it got bought by a superior product and company.

Big fucking whoop, it had fireworks, a fancy song and a middle aged man in a nappy banging a drum,(and a retarded screeching banshee) fucking wow......it was a corrupt as fuck and died a deserved death for doing what it was doing.

Pride is never coming back, you whining like a girl about it's demise and the ufc will NEVER bring it back...:lol:
So the best you can do is sit back and enjoy the premiere organization in the world; The ULTIMATE. FIGHTING. CHAMPIONSHIP!!

rydersonthestorm

01-08-2009, 11:21 AM

Stop talking shit, Pride was never broadcast in Britain.

Stop crying like a bitch, the shower of shit of a show is dead because it was a shitty promotion run by crooks that was fraudulant and didn't pay fighters properly (and significantly less than UFC btw) it got bought by a superior product and company.

Big fucking whoop, it had fireworks, a fancy song and a middle aged man in a nappy banging a drum,(and a retarded screeching banshee) fucking wow......it was a corrupt as fuck and died a deserved death for doing what it was doing.

Pride is never coming back, you whining like a girl about it's demise and the ufc will NEVER bring it back...:lol:
So the best you can do is sit back and enjoy the premiere organization in the world; The ULTIMATE. FIGHTING. CHAMPIONSHIP!!
your wrong come back when your not such a stupid fuck pride used to be on men and motors, opps perhaps you should know about the sunject before you make comment.:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch: patsch

scurlaruntings

01-08-2009, 11:31 AM

Stop talking shit, Pride was never broadcast in Britain.

Stop crying like a bitch, the shower of shit of a show is dead because it was a shitty promotion run by crooks that was fraudulant and didn't pay fighters properly (and significantly less than UFC btw) it got bought by a superior product and company.

Big fucking whoop, it had fireworks, a fancy song and a middle aged man in a nappy banging a drum,(and a retarded screeching banshee) fucking wow......it was a corrupt as fuck and died a deserved death for doing what it was doing.

Pride is never coming back, you whining like a girl about it's demise and the ufc will NEVER bring it back...:lol:
So the best you can do is sit back and enjoy the premiere organization in the world; The ULTIMATE. FIGHTING. CHAMPIONSHIP!!Not to be pedantic but it was screened on Eurosport and Men and Motors. Either way that wasnt my point. My point was that since the buyout has MMA got better and prospered as a result or is the UFC now in a better position to push its own brand possibly to the detriment of MMA as a whole. As for the moral standpoint taken by most here take the shit out of your eyes and see the wood for the trees. This is the hurt business. Its part and parcel of the game. Boxing has always been this way and MMA is no diffrent.

Dostoevsky

01-08-2009, 11:31 AM

Whatever, I've never heard of such a preposterous station but even if it does exist it doesn't negate my other points..........stop whining about Pride being destroyed and accept the FACTS. The facts are that Pride ain't never coming back and UFC is the big dog. You bitching about it ain't gonna affect jack SHIT!!

AT the moment with the exception of the HW divison, the UFC has all the best fighters and best divisions out of any other organization!
A monopoly in this situation is a good thing, all the fighters can finally fight one another.

scurlaruntings

01-08-2009, 11:32 AM

Dude Men and Motors has been around for ages. They used to do some decent porn back in the day :-) It was a mens station designed to be a mens magazine similar to nuts.

rydersonthestorm

01-08-2009, 11:34 AM

Dude Men and Motors has been around for ages. They used to do some decent porn back in the day :-) It was a mens station designed to be a mens magazine similar to nuts.
exactly just because a stupid fuck like dost didn't watch it :rofl

rydersonthestorm

01-08-2009, 11:36 AM

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rydersonthestorm

01-08-2009, 11:38 AM

scurlaruntings

01-08-2009, 11:39 AM

exactly just because a stupid fuck like dost didn't watch it :rofl
You have to give him a bly. Its only 1 telly per thousand people in Scotland. :D

rydersonthestorm

01-08-2009, 11:41 AM

You have to give him a bly. Its only 1 telly per thousand people in Scotland. :D
he should have traded in some irn bru, smack or tunnocks wafers all highly prized commodities in scotland.:D

scurlaruntings

01-08-2009, 11:43 AM

Is it true IrnBru is only made in Scotland? :-)

rydersonthestorm

01-08-2009, 11:44 AM

Is it true IrnBru is only made in Scotland? :-)
no it's all over the world but only real scottish gurders are used

Dostoevsky

01-08-2009, 11:46 AM

he should have traded in some irn bru, smack or tunnocks wafers all highly prized commodities in scotland.:D

:lol: fuck off, I ain't trading in that quality shit for a TV. Not worth it.

Grievesy

01-08-2009, 12:51 PM

PRIDE was good , no doubt. Some great fighters, wars, the GPs were great, etc. Plus I prefer the ring personally. Makes it seem more professional.

However, there were too many good fighters fighting bums, all this corruption etc. Having a lot of fighters in one place is handy. Means we get to see the best fight the best most of the time.