I didn't want to get involved but..Pinoy vs Mexican

[IsaL]

The World cup means nothing, absoloutley nothing and I'll explain why.

The world cup was put together by promoters who were not looking out for the best interest of either team but their own best interest.

Secondly most of the contenders were not the best their countries had to offer except for Gerry Penalosa and Rey Bautista who are the best the Phillipines have aside of Pac. But Gonzalez and De Leon are not by any means Mexico's best like the former are to the Phillipines.

And Third what do 4 meaningless wins mean when Phillipines #2 guy in the entire country in terms of boxing is brutully destroyed.

There are many fights on Telefutura where Mexicans mop the floor with PR's and vise versa but these are old, shot, semi, retired or hopless journey men and prospects fighting each other.

I despise the attitude most philipinos are showing here but if that's the case so be it, have your win, celebrate, rub it in our face that we lost 4 no bodies to 4 Pinoy nobodies, that Penelosa Philipines #3 fighter beat Mexicos # who knows, a level B fighter. But the fact remains that Mexicos lower top 10 fighter destroyed Phillipines #2 fighter in brutul fashion.

You are back to sqaure one where you only have Pac again.

The world cup's outcome was much more devastating to the Pinoys than the Mexicans in terms of what EACH LOST, and it's probably the reason why most of you are acting like sore winners, because deep down you knw you lost so much this weekend in bautista.

[compukiller]

The World cup means nothing, absoloutley nothing and I'll explain why.

The world cup was put together by promoters who were not looking out for the best interest of either team but their own best interest.

Secondly most of the contenders were not the best their countries had to offer except for Gerry Penalosa and Rey Bautista who are the best the Phillipines have aside of Pac. But Gonzalez and De Leon are not by any means Mexico's best like the former are to the Phillipines.

And Third what do 4 meaningless wins mean when Phillipines #2 guy in the entire country in terms of boxing is brutully destroyed.

There are many fights on Telefutura where Mexicans mop the floor with PR's and vise versa but these are old, shot, semi, retired or hopless journey men and prospects fighting each other.

I despise the attitude most philipinos are showing here but if that's the case so be it, have your win, celebrate, rub it in our face that we lost 4 no bodies to 4 Pinoy nobodies, that Penelosa Philipines #3 fighter beat Mexicos # who knows, a level B fighter. But the fact remains that Mexicos lower top 10 fighter destroyed Phillipines #2 fighter in brutul fashion.

You are back to sqaure one where you only have Pac again.

The world cup's outcome was much more devastating to the Pinoys than the Mexicans in terms of what EACH LOST, and it's probably the reason why most of you are acting like sore winners, because deep down you knw you lost so much this weekend in bautista.


That was brutal:good

[Boom_Boom]

The World cup means nothing, absoloutley nothing and I'll explain why.

The world cup was put together by promoters who were not looking out for the best interest of either team but their own best interest.

Secondly most of the contenders were not the best their countries had to offer except for Gerry Penalosa and Rey Bautista who are the best the Phillipines have aside of Pac. But Gonzalez and De Leon are not by any means Mexico's best like the former are to the Phillipines.

And Third what do 4 meaningless wins mean when Phillipines #2 guy in the entire country in terms of boxing is brutully destroyed.

There are many fights on Telefutura where Mexicans mop the floor with PR's and vise versa but these are old, shot, semi, retired or hopless journey men and prospects fighting each other.

I despise the attitude most philipinos are showing here but if that's the case so be it, have your win, celebrate, rub it in our face that we lost 4 no bodies to 4 Pinoy nobodies, that Penelosa Philipines #3 fighter beat Mexicos # who knows, a level B fighter. But the fact remains that Mexicos lower top 10 fighter destroyed Phillipines #2 fighter in brutul fashion.

You are back to sqaure one where you only have Pac again.

The world cup's outcome was much more devastating to the Pinoys than the Mexicans in terms of what EACH LOST, and it's probably the reason why most of you are acting like sore winners, because deep down you knw you lost so much this weekend in bautista.

I think the world cup is stupid

but this is clearly a whining post then it is a perspective one

[jopez707]

Johhny Gonzalez is best 118 lber in the world (or was). He is the not only the best Mexican in the division but also the boxer in the division period(Now that Marquez campaigns at 122). Z Gorres is a good at 115 or 118 whichever weight he fights. He lost a close decison to Montiel who is another good Mexican fighter. So in reality on this card you had three good-very good Filipino fighters and one good Mexican fighter (De Leon) and one very good Mexican fighter (Gonzalez). There was also a prospect who was upset Roman (Mexico) 21-0..he was. There was also A.J. Banal who is a red hot prospect from the Philipines (only behing Bautista in terms of potential). So it wasnt as meaningless as you say...this is coming from a Mexican.

[IsaL]

Johhny Gonzalez is best 118 lber in the world (or was). He is the not only the best Mexican in the division but also the boxer in the division period(Now that Marquez campaigns at 122). Z Gorres is a good at 115 or 118 whichever weight he fights. He lost a close decison to Montiel who is another good Mexican fighter. So in reality on this card you had three good-very good Filipino fighters and one good Mexican fighter (De Leon) and one very good Mexican fighter (Gonzalez). There was also a prospect who was upset Roman (Mexico) 21-0..he was. There was also A.J. Banal who is a red hot prospect from the Philipines (only behing Bautista in terms of potential). So it wasnt as meaningless as you say...this is coming from a Mexican.

Dude, Gonzalez was the Best Mexican at 118 because after Israel kicked his crap he moved up along with all the other Mexicans dominating 118.

There many other Mexican fighters who have accomplished, and who are better than Gonzalez. Not taking anything away from him but he is not Mexico's best, not even top 15, so he lost to Phillipines #3 man in the whole country, okay congrats! The we have Daniel Ponce De Leon who Barely cracks top 10 if he even does for current Mexican fighters destroying the Phillipines #2 man in the enitre country.

The World Cup is a nice win, it means nothing but hey atleast they can say that despite losing their #2 guy to Mexico's #11 in brutul fashion, 4 nobodies beat 4 other nobodies hooray!:happy

[jackiebrown]

now whenever mexicans win a litlte bit thats all we hear about is how they are the better race in boxing...

[IsaL]

now whenever mexicans win a litlte bit thats all we hear about is how they are the better race in boxing...

We win all the time and we don't make a fuss about it unless it's huge. It's how we roll.:hey

[Beebs]

Not to mention a World Cup should generally involve more than 2 countries.

[renyo]

somebody get this girl a tissue her tears are getting all over the place for a country finally getting mainstream attention as far as boxing goes it was impressive it shows that pac is not the only one in pi that knows how to box mexico is right next to the us of course theres more fightersthe more money you put into finding and developing talent the more you will get use your head not that thing that bleeds between your legs

[enzo]

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[jopez707]

Dude, Gonzalez was the Best Mexican at 118 because after Israel kicked his crap he moved up along with all the other Mexicans dominating 118.

There many other Mexican fighters who have accomplished, and who are better than Gonzalez. Not taking anything away from him but he is not Mexico's best, not even top 15, so he lost to Phillipines #3 man in the whole country, okay congrats! The we have Daniel Ponce De Leon who Barely cracks top 10 if he even does for current Mexican fighters destroying the Phillipines #2 man in the enitre country.

The World Cup is a nice win, it means nothing but hey atleast they can say that despite losing their #2 guy to Mexico's #11 in brutul fashion, 4 nobodies beat 4 other nobodies hooray!:happy

Gonzalez not top 15 among active Mexicans?:patsch Name 14 other active Mexican fighters who are better than him. JMM, Barrera, Rafa Marquez, Israel Vasquez, maybe Solis at 108, Miajres @ 115 and Soto @ 130. Thats about it, Gonzalez was coming up from 118 to fight Vasquez; he was still the king of 118. That was a huge upset. (Penalosa over Gonzalez).

[theunderdog]

boomboom is NOT the 2nd or 3rd best fighter from the philippines. i you believe he is, then you are as stupid as some of them filipinos who believed the hype. gorres and penalosa are the 2nd and 3rd.

seriously, dude, get over it. if it means nothing to you, then fuck it. don't ever mention it again. let them filipinos celebrate their win. you know better. starting a thread about how it means nothing to you actually makes it seem that it did hurt your pride.

well, yeah boomboom lost, he was supposed to lose. you boy gonzales was supposed to dominate gerry and retire him. look what happend. a hot pinoy prospect lost to a bull-strong mexican champ. a mexican champ lost to a 35 year old 5'4 way past his prime fighter from the philippines. ang gorres is not a nobody, he'll be a chamo someday. the other three fights, i couldn't care less about.

anyway, what would you have said if mexico won the whole thing? wouldn't you be bragging about it like the filipinos are doing now?

[johnco]

]We win all the time [/size]and we don't make a fuss about it unless it's huge. It's how we roll.:hey
i rarely post here nowadays but when i see dumb poster who is amnesic i try to remind him that pac fans always have the bragging rights!!
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mexican wins all the time ??? :huh:huh:lol::lol::lol:
win my ass!!

[Sweet Pea Pacquiao]

Dude, Gonzalez was the Best Mexican at 118 because after Israel kicked his crap he moved up along with all the other Mexicans dominating 118.

There many other Mexican fighters who have accomplished, and who are better than Gonzalez. Not taking anything away from him but he is not Mexico's best, not even top 15, so he lost to Phillipines #3 man in the whole country, okay congrats! The we have Daniel Ponce De Leon who Barely cracks top 10 if he even does for current Mexican fighters destroying the Phillipines #2 man in the enitre country.

The World Cup is a nice win, it means nothing but hey atleast they can say that despite losing their #2 guy to Mexico's #11 in brutul fashion, 4 nobodies beat 4 other nobodies hooray!:happy

Wrong. Shows how much you're trying to mix truth with opinion. Israel Vazquez NEVER fought Gonzalez at 118 then moved up. Gonzalez was the one who moved up for the first time at 122 to fight Israel.

Again, no one actually thinks the Philippines is the better boxing nation P4P now after this 5-1 drubbing. Mexico still has more world champions and more history. However, flike Jopez said, fact is Mexico sent some good fighters, and the Philippines sent some good fighters. And the Philippines won.

Yes, Bautista was the #1 prospect, but aside from Banal who won his fight, there were other Filipino prospects that didn't fight on the card because they are signed with Top Rank, such as Bernabe Concepcion and Mercito Gesta. Donaire and Condes are current world champions. Viloria didn't fight either and those three are better P4P than most of the fighters the Philippines sent, relative unknowns like Domingo and Gabi.

And for you to say Gonzalez is the 15th best Mexican champ? That statement alone exposes your agenda. Name 14 current Mexican CHAMPIONS better than Gonzalez.

You can't, and the reason is that your eyes are blinded by your tears. Get some Kleenex and move on.

[ko factor]

We win all the time and we don't make a fuss about it unless it's huge. It's how we roll.:heyEat your heart out! Bottomline is we are the World Cup Champs Baby! Give credit where the credit is due.:deal

[psychopath]

I didn't want to get involved but..Pinoy vs Mexican

Oh yeah? Then shut the fuck up. Don't add up to the bullshit.

:good :lol: :D

[YOUNG*LORD]

As a Puerto Rican, I give all credit to the Filipinos...we have alot in common. we both like Adobo and we make it a habit of beating Mexican fighters like rented mules.:yep btw...if Mexico had won World Cup the ESB Mexis would've been celebrating and boasting about it for the rest of the year:deal

[hooligan]

The World cup means nothing, absoloutley nothing and I'll explain why.

The world cup was put together by promoters who were not looking out for the best interest of either team but their own best interest.

Secondly most of the contenders were not the best their countries had to offer except for Gerry Penalosa and Rey Bautista who are the best the Phillipines have aside of Pac. But Gonzalez and De Leon are not by any means Mexico's best like the former are to the Phillipines.

And Third what do 4 meaningless wins mean when Phillipines #2 guy in the entire country in terms of boxing is brutully destroyed.

There are many fights on Telefutura where Mexicans mop the floor with PR's and vise versa but these are old, shot, semi, retired or hopless journey men and prospects fighting each other.

I despise the attitude most philipinos are showing here but if that's the case so be it, have your win, celebrate, rub it in our face that we lost 4 no bodies to 4 Pinoy nobodies, that Penelosa Philipines #3 fighter beat Mexicos # who knows, a level B fighter. But the fact remains that Mexicos lower top 10 fighter destroyed Phillipines #2 fighter in brutul fashion.

You are back to sqaure one where you only have Pac again.

The world cup's outcome was much more devastating to the Pinoys than the Mexicans in terms of what EACH LOST, and it's probably the reason why most of you are acting like sore winners, because deep down you knw you lost so much this weekend in bautista.

stop crying man just put it aside :yep

[the_what]

As a Puerto Rican, I give all credit to the Filipinos...we have alot in common. we both like Adobo and we make it a habit of beating Mexican fighters like rented mules.:yep btw...if Mexico had won World Cup the ESB Mexis would've been celebrating and boasting about it for the rest of the year:deal

:yep

[reed_man02]

As a Puerto Rican, I give all credit to the Filipinos...we have alot in common. we both like Adobo and we make it a habit of beating Mexican fighters like rented mules.:yep btw...if Mexico had won World Cup the ESB Mexis would've been celebrating and boasting about it for the rest of the year:deal

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

you really are funny.:yep

[hellblazer]

As a Puerto Rican, I give all credit to the Filipinos...we have alot in common. we both like Adobo and we make it a habit of beating Mexican fighters like rented mules.:yep btw...if Mexico had won World Cup the ESB Mexis would've been celebrating and boasting about it for the rest of the year:deal

:good

[Circa]

As a Puerto Rican, I give all credit to the Filipinos...we have alot in common. we both like Adobo and we make it a habit of beating Mexican fighters like rented mules.:yep btw...if Mexico had won World Cup the ESB Mexis would've been celebrating and boasting about it for the rest of the year:deal

lmao :rofl :rofl :rofl

[retriever]

As a Puerto Rican, I give all credit to the Filipinos...we have alot in common. we both like Adobo and we make it a habit of beating Mexican fighters like rented mules.:yep btw...if Mexico had won World Cup the ESB Mexis would've been celebrating and boasting about it for the rest of the year:deal

:yep :good :hey

[theunderdog]

:happy:happy:happy


you're the crazy noob who claimed who ranted that "mexican" jorge linares does not have any filipino to match up with him right? fool:nut

[1punch1nder]

what about the world cup Mexico vs. Thailand?

[theHawtness]

Wrong. Shows how much you're trying to mix truth with opinion. Israel Vazquez NEVER fought Gonzalez at 118 then moved up. Gonzalez was the one who moved up for the first time at 122 to fight Israel.

Again, no one actually thinks the Philippines is the better boxing nation P4P now after this 5-1 drubbing. Mexico still has more world champions and more history. However, flike Jopez said, fact is Mexico sent some good fighters, and the Philippines sent some good fighters. And the Philippines won.

Yes, Bautista was the #1 prospect, but aside from Banal who won his fight, there were other Filipino prospects that didn't fight on the card because they are signed with Top Rank, such as Bernabe Concepcion and Mercito Gesta. Donaire and Condes are current world champions. Viloria didn't fight either and those three are better P4P than most of the fighters the Philippines sent, relative unknowns like Domingo and Gabi.

And for you to say Gonzalez is the 15th best Mexican champ? That statement alone exposes your agenda. Name 14 current Mexican CHAMPIONS better than Gonzalez.

You can't, and the reason is that your eyes are blinded by your tears. Get some Kleenex and move on.
uliuli
:pwned

[theunderdog]

the thing is the philippines should defend the title next. i want them to fight japanese fighter as they dominate most of the smaller divisions. but this will generate no buzz whatsoever in the states.

as i look at it, i really can't see any other country matching up with the philippines that will gain interest in the states. philippines-mexico is one of them great rivalries brewing up. PI vs thai or PI vs japos will be nice but won't get as big as mexico vs PI

[psychopath]

the thing is the philippines should defend the title next. i want them to fight japanese fighter as they dominate most of the smaller divisions. but this will generate no buzz whatsoever in the states.

as i look at it, i really can't see any other country matching up with the philippines that will gain interest in the states. philippines-mexico is one of them great rivalries brewing up. PI vs thai or PI vs japos will be nice but won't get as big as mexico vs PI

The Japs vs the Philippines would be a good one. Never mine if it's not gonna be big in the states . . . boxing is not only in U.S. Then let it happen in Asia. :good

[YOUNG*LORD]

Go Go Boriqua:happy :happy Yo I got a question which is better Bacardi or Cintron?? When I went to PR saw alot of Cintron..My friend said it was better..You got to stick with Bacardi:deal

[CASH_718]

Gonzalez not top 15 among active Mexicans?:patsch Name 14 other active Mexican fighters who are better than him. JMM, Barrera, Rafa Marquez, Israel Vasquez, maybe Solis at 108, Miajres @ 115 and Soto @ 130. Thats about it, Gonzalez was coming up from 118 to fight Vasquez; he was still the king of 118. That was a huge upset. (Penalosa over Gonzalez).

1
1
119
HOZUMI HASEGAWA
22-2 (7)
2
2
617
VEERAPOL SAHAPROM
56-3-2 (40)
3
3
56
WLADIMIR SIDORENKO
20-0-2 (7)
4
4
248
SILENCE MABUZA
20-2 (16)
5
5
22
JHONNY GONZALEZ
34-5 (29)
6
6
7
RICARDO CORDOBA
30-1-2 (19)
7
7
5
LUIS PEREZ
25-1 (16)
8
8
48
SIMONE MALUDROTTU
25-1 (10)
9
9
229
GENARO GARCIA
35-6 (20)
10
10
16
ANSELMO MORENO
20-1-1 (7)

[CASH_718]

i rarely post here nowadays but when i see dumb poster who is amnesic i try to remind him that pac fans always have the bragging rights!!
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mexican wins all the time ??? :huh:huh:lol::lol::lol:
win my ass!!Last time I checked the JMM fight was a draw and the first Morales fight was a big "L" for Pacquiao.:deal

[IsaL]

Man some Pinoy better check the Pinoy's at ESB because they are making you guys look very bad.

[theunderdog]

Man some Pinoy better check the Pinoy's at ESB because they are making you guys look very bad.

jonhco and domngo are just horrible posters. no knowledge wahtsoever. sadly, the new filipinos that are coming around feel like the likes of domngo are cool and they mimic them. anyway, yeah. most are stupid and know nothing aobut boxing outside pac.

[loui_ludwig]

I am Filipino and whether the Philippine team contigent win or lose, i am still proud of them.

As far as certain, NOT ALL, Pinoy members in here acting too much on the vicotry of the Filipino boxing team. Some of there are just blind by their pride in being Filipinos. Like other Mexicans, Puerot Ricans, British, and Americans being blind by their pride of their nationality.

[theunderdog]

:huh They are fans...Just like you root for the Lakers..You dont have to name the Knicks whole roster. They care about one thing..rooting for their team... The question is this... if they werent rooting for the #2 or #1 p4p fighter in the world...would you even care?

the thing is they root for them when their at the top. they don't care about how they get there. they just want to share some of the glory of boxers and i don't think they respect them. that's what i hate about them.

for example. domngo, actually most filipinos said that boomboom is the next filipino superstar. i know you'll agree with that statement as most of them really saw potential in the kid. some said, like pacd, that boomboom will ko de leon. but then when he got ktfo, domngo disowned him and said that boomboom should retire and even though the kid is only 21!!! even pac lost when he was young and still he made it to the bigtime. if you don't believe that domngo said that, i'll be more than willing to dig it up so you could go take a look at it.

all i'm saying is that imagine the domngo's out there who disowned pac when he lost against medgoen and didn't make weight. then think of how those same people are now infesting boxing websited and hoisting their filipino flags because pac has already succeeded. they are just up with the fighters in the good times. they are posers. and as i have said before, after the fighters have retired, so called fans like domngo will not even piss on them if they saw them burning on the street.

i've been rooting for the lakers for a long time now. i've been eaten alive when they lost to detriot in the finals or when they blew a 3-1 lead against the suns. the thing is is never abandoned them or told them they could go fuck themselves because they are losing.

[theunderdog]

Damn that Lakers thing was just coincidence:lol: Actually, Most filipinos if you look at from the perspective of Boom Boom getting beat...They actually were very harsh of him...which shows objectivity..especially if you make a lame excuse with the broken hands.

I beg to differ, Filipinos were never down on Gerry even if he hasnt been a champ fo 10 years...They supported PAC when he lost to Erik the 1st time... I dont know where you get this...

as for PAC this guy is top #1 or #2 in the world..peole will get overzealous..Damn I'm getting Zealous with the Prospect of Brandon Vera being the no 1 guy in MMA...Everyone is the same..Ask Cubs fans...no one attacks them when they go crazy for a terrible team..PAC is #1 or #2 people will get carried away.

i was sporting a steve nash holding the mvp award with kobe dunking on top of him as my avatar a while back and i wasn't suprised that people from here knew i was a lakers fan. gerry didn't really lose. the filipinos knew that. they were really close decisions at the hometowns of his opponents. pac's loss against EM was acceptable. he fought well and just lost to a better fighter. boomboom got ktfo. but then askng him to retire at this point in time is stupid, specially coming from an avid filipino supporter.

i still believe boomboom will be a champ someday, maybe in 4 or 5 years. if we would still be discussing here at that point in time, i know that people who left him like domngo would be celebrating like hell and waving their filipino flags again. even though he asked him to retire.

[boxbox]

unfortunately, a lot of active filipinos here bash on BOOMBOOM for the loss ( basing that on Underdogs statement), but its really quite different in the homeland, they didnt abondon BOOM2x, even encouraged him to get back and just shrug it off, its a learning experience afterall. Sadly, because of these fickle posters, some of the haters will again take advantage and post more hate threads

[nighthunter]

As a Puerto Rican, I give all credit to the Filipinos...we have alot in common. we both like Adobo and we make it a habit of beating Mexican fighters like rented mules.:yep btw...if Mexico had won World Cup the ESB Mexis would've been celebrating and boasting about it for the rest of the year:deal


:good:happy:happy:happy

[mad_takamura]

unfortunately, a lot of active filipinos here bash on BOOMBOOM for the loss ( basing that on Underdogs statement), but its really quite different in the homeland, they didnt abondon BOOM2x, even encouraged him to get back and just shrug it off, its a learning experience afterall. Sadly, because of these fickle posters, some of the haters will again take advantage and post more hate threads ni ine deserve to bash boomboom but to tell you the truth i think entering the fight, boom boom was overconfident that he can take pdl because of the gerry-pdl fight where he can't even put gerry out despite the age.

[mad_takamura]

ni ine deserve to bash boomboom but to tell you the truth i think entering the fight, boom boom was overconfident that he can take pdl because of the gerry-pdl fight where he can't even put gerry out despite the age. i mean no one sorry grammar error