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VHB
08-14-2007, 09:05 AM
Finnish former middleweight european champion Amin Asikainen is continuing his quest for world championship this fall. Asikainen has been named as another challenger to fight for the vacant EBU-EU title, along with another former euro-champ Morrade Hakkar. European Union championship became vacated when Mahir Oral got injured and unable to defend his title. Before this, Asikainen will face another Frenchman, Sylvain Touzet, in 6-rounder at Stockholm´s Royal Tennishall, Sweden.

Asikainen is Sylvester´s no. 1 challenger right after mandatory Castillejo. If Castillejo won´t continue his career, Asikainen is free to face the neck puncher for the third time. But his main goal draws closer on every win from now on: world title.

28.09 Sylvain Touzet
TBA Morrade Hakkar (EBU-EU)

Tom_Tocca
08-14-2007, 09:07 AM
Hakkar is totally washed up - Asikainen should take him out early on...

Toney
08-14-2007, 01:33 PM
Hakkar is totally washed up - Asikainen should take him out early on...
Well Hakkar did beat decent Jorge Sendra under two years ago. Then he lost a 115-113 decion to Sylvester and after that he has won two fights. I saw only highlights of the Sylvester fight, but I think that you are a bit hard on Morrade. Hakkar has been stopped only twice, but Hopkins after 7 round and once 9 years ago in round. Nobody has ever stopped him early. He is a tough guy. Has has good chin.

I agree Asikainen should win, but it would be no miss-match. I hope it happends, this is just the kind of fight that "Idi" Amin needs at this point! :good

VHB
08-14-2007, 04:15 PM
Yeah, I hate it how they undermine fighters here. Castillejo defeated Sturm and took the world title at 37 after having a bit lacklustre career. Hakkar is an experienced boxer and has boxed against the best middleweights in the world, without ever looking bad in the ring, now Asikainen. Hakkar looked too slow against Sylvester. Sylvester was in charge for whole fight and really made Hakkar protect himself. It was completely different Sylvester than what we saw against Asikainen - against him he could not take the lead. Therefore, I´d say that Asikainen will be in command and Hakkar´s counterpunching abilities will dictate the fight. I´m predicting late TKO or UD for Idi Amin. This really would be the classiest EU title fight ever.

Toney
08-14-2007, 06:52 PM
Hakkar is an experienced boxer and has boxed against the best middleweights in the world, without ever looking bad in the ring, .

Hakkar looked real bad against BHop, thats for sure. But BHop was is the best boxer in the world.

Axe
08-15-2007, 01:26 AM
Asikainen is an exciting fighter, I do wish him the best on his quest to a title though first I'd like to see a rubbermatch with Sylvester. Both of their fights have been wildly entertaining.

krutov
08-15-2007, 03:56 PM
Interesting news. I will most likely attend this event. It will be interesting to see Asikainen fight live. I hope he wins the fight, so he can fight Sylvester again or fight for a title. Why do people call him "Idi" Amin? i don't see anything glorius or exciting about him being called that. The dictator Idi Amin is human garbage.

VHB
08-15-2007, 05:03 PM
Yeah, but Idi Amin was a boxer and evil man. Asikainen is also evil, but only in the ring. In truth, his nickname doesn´t really come from Idi Amin though.

VHB
09-04-2007, 04:01 AM
It apperas that Hakkar has moved to super middle (which could have been predicted early on) and Asikainen´s new opponent for the EBU-EU title fight is Alexander Sipos, whom he defeated last year in voluntary EBU defense. I would guess that Asikainen won´t waste his time on Sipos and concentrates on some other title or tough non-title fight after Stockholm.

bumdujour
09-05-2007, 02:18 PM
asikainen was exposed by sylvester. the german is not a puncher and he hurt asikainen bad.

asikainen has a glass jaw. he wont contend again.

Toney
09-05-2007, 03:13 PM
asikainen was exposed by sylvester. he hurt asikainen bad.
With what did Sylvester hurt Asikainen? I saw no legal punvches that would had hurt Asikainen. The neck-punch chanced the whole fight.

And Sylvester´s power is underrated. He is a real strong guy.

bumdujour
09-05-2007, 03:54 PM
With what did Sylvester hurt Asikainen? I saw no legal punvches that would had hurt Asikainen. The neck-punch chanced the whole fight.

And Sylvester´s power is underrated. He is a real strong guy.


there was nothing wrong with the fight. sylvester ko´d him with legal punches.

and sylvester is no puncher.

sorry pal, but you are biased. asikainen got found out.

were they to fight again, i think sylvester would stop him again only sooner.

VHB
09-05-2007, 06:25 PM
Numdujour´s last sentence proves he doesn´t know much about boxing. Even if we forget that illegal blow to the neck, Sylvester´s win was a tactical one, they admitted themselves that they had to press the fight for late rounds since there was no way SS could do anything but keep his guard up as Asikainen came like a thunder. Sylvester lost all 4 first rounds. If these two meet again and the winner exits the ring after less rounds, I bet my boxing gloves it will be Asikainen. Sylvester needs a decision or a horrible referee and fouled Asikainen without any legs left as we saw. I keep dreaming of these two clashing for the vacant world title sometime next year...

VHB
10-17-2007, 09:49 AM
-Hakkar didn´t take the EU fight, then Sipos was named as the co-challenger. He lost to Roman Aramian and was cancelled from the spot. Now it´s Domenico Spada, but...

-Asikainen defeated Sylvain Touzet by UD last month in Stockholm.

-Asikainen meets Christophe Karagoz in Helsinki next week as another back-on-track fight.

-Asikainen´s manager has left an offer to Sauerland - of a third meeting with Sylvester, early next year.

Antsu
10-17-2007, 11:00 AM
Asikainen will lose if he fights Sylvester again. Both fights have been entertaining so I would not mind seeing a third one. But Asikainen will be beaten again because Sylvester is too technical to him. I still hope Asiakainen would win but wouldnt bet on it.

VHB
10-17-2007, 05:19 PM
Just like many people said that Sylvester will run for his dear life in the rematch and that it´s a pointless fight. :roll:

I guess you don´t know much about technique. It is precisely technique that makes Asikainen a successful boxer. He has a good collection of punches and seeks spots well. Look at how he fooled Sylvester through the opening rounds in the rematch. Sylvester is not too technical or versatile, his only well-educated punches are jab and cross. He is vulnerable, not an half range fighter, so he spends almost all the time double guard up and striking occasionally from distance. This is what annoys AA as he likes to mix it up.

To beat Asikainen Sylvester has to hide in his shell and wait for possible opportunities. Such aroused last time, ´cause Asikainen was fighting a brainless fight, looked like he ran after a punching bag. Sylvester is a difficult opponent for AA, but it´s not because of his technique, but his game plan. If Asikainen would fight like that, you´d call these fights sleeping pills instead of entertainers. Sylvester - Sturm would be a true trip to the feather islands. :p

unitas
10-17-2007, 05:41 PM
Asikainen will lose if he fights Sylvester again. Both fights have been entertaining so I would not mind seeing a third one. But Asikainen will be beaten again because Sylvester is too technical to him. I still hope Asiakainen would win but wouldnt bet on it.

i agree. sylvester is too technical for him. his punches are more precise and his defense is better.

asikainens only hope is that if sylvester makes a mistake and runs into a hard punch......outside of that, no chance.

in both fights, sylvester outboxed the fin.......only that he got careless in the first one after being cut.

asikainen has levelled out imo. its now been proven that he has no chin at all. if light hitting sylvester can ko him, so can most top european middleweights......like john duddy and so on.

at 30 asikainen is not improving. but he should provide interesting tests for the up and comers like AA brother alexander abraham.

Toney
10-18-2007, 02:48 AM
i agree. sylvester is too technical for him. his punches are more precise and his defense is better.

asikainens only hope is that if sylvester makes a mistake and runs into a hard punch......outside of that, no chance.

in both fights, sylvester outboxed the fin.......only that he got careless in the first one after being cut.

asikainen has levelled out imo. its now been proven that he has no chin at all. if light hitting sylvester can ko him, so can most top european middleweights......like john duddy and so on.

at 30 asikainen is not improving. but he should provide interesting tests for the up and comers like AA brother alexander abraham.

No way that Sylvester is better than Asikainen. In their first fight Sylvester did not get too careless... See round 8 again and you see that Sylvester just got hammered. In their second fight Asikainen got careless. He dropped Sylvester at the of round 1. He felt that he could hurt Sylvester and that Sylvester could not hurt him. And the horroble neck punch chanced everything in the fight. How can anyone say that Asikainen has a bad chin, when Sylvester never touched his chin? The neck punch got the job done. After that Asikainen was not able to take punches. Asikainen is at his best as a counter puncher, but now he was very careless and tryed just to take Sylvester out. Big mistake. In their 3th fight Asikainen will most likely box more like he usually does and surely he will beat Sylvester.

Artani
10-18-2007, 05:06 AM
Sylvester is better fighter, but they must to have a third match. I think this fight will happen again.