View Full Version : Floyd Patterson (prime) vs George Foreman (90's version)
ChrisPontius
01-12-2009, 10:22 AM
Patterson would be looking at a 70 pound weight disadvantage and a 5 inch height disadvantage, but a great advantage in hand- and footspeed, stamina and an edge boxing skill. Let's hear it.
McGrain
01-12-2009, 10:26 AM
Foreman, though it hurts me to say it. Patterson's style is wrong for a guy like 90's Goerge - patient, he would never panic, always looking for that punch, smart about cotrolling his space.
On the other hand, Floyd is not a robot. Nothing stopping him going walkabout after 8 rounds in control.
But if you're asking me where i'd put someone else's money, George.
Holmes' Jab
01-12-2009, 10:34 AM
A young Patterson outworks the shuffling old Foreman. Too quick, too mobile and his power was underrated; Foreman certainly wouldn't land enough shots to stop him in my book. Patterson's chin wasn't great, but it wasn't that bad either and his powers of recovery were admirable at times. This is no dentable chin in the ilk of Moorer's.
No stoppage either way: Patterson UD.
The_Hitman92
01-12-2009, 11:03 AM
A prime Patterson would beat an ageing George. Don't get me wrong I feel that George's style is all wrong for Patterson and that if they both met in there primes Foreman would destroy him but I think that if Patterson met the George of the 90's he would be landing more shots, his movement would be to good for Foreman and I agree that he also had underrated power. So yeah I would go with a Patterson UD.
CottoDaBodykill
01-12-2009, 11:23 AM
i dunno foreman had that piston jab in his return .. and that pushing style where he could just push you around the ring and rough you up into the power he'd end up laying on you .. eventually he'd catch patterson in a bind .. and like the one guy said foreman had a very patient style where he'd just follow you around and control the pace of it all untill he was ready to close up shop and go home..
mr. magoo
01-12-2009, 11:27 AM
I still think Foreman wins by KO. Floyd's fighting style combined with Foreman's reach would make him a very hitable target, and although Foreman's power had diminished some by the 90's, he still had more than enough to put Patterson away.
la-califa
01-12-2009, 11:29 AM
Patterson would get the easy decision win in this. If Morrison could move around & outwork Foreman. Floyd would have little difficulty.
Bokaj
01-12-2009, 11:30 AM
I still think Foreman wins by KO. Floyd's fighting style combined with Foreman's reach would make him a very hitable target, and although Foreman's power had diminished some by the 90's, he still had more than enough to put Patterson away.
I agree. Patterson's style, like Tyson's, was best suited for aggression, and that wouldn't bring him any happiness against either version of Foreman.
Hydraulix
01-12-2009, 11:37 AM
If Morrison could move around & outwork Foreman. Floyd would have little difficulty.
Yes, but Morrison had a better chin than Patterson. I think that this fight would be similar to the Holyfield/ Foreman fight. But Patterson's chin is suspect. He'd stand in front of George and get laid out eventually.
CottoDaBodykill
01-12-2009, 11:39 AM
Patterson would get the easy decision win in this. If Morrison could move around & outwork Foreman. Floyd would have little difficulty.
morrison had a little more power to fend foreman off then patterson did ..he also was a bit bigger too making it harder to be pushed around
two different fights
mr. magoo
01-12-2009, 11:47 AM
I agree. Patterson's style, like Tyson's, was best suited for aggression, and that wouldn't bring him any happiness against either version of Foreman.
Especially considering that he was less than 200 Lbs and under 6 feet tall, not to mention, had been floored 19 times in his career. This is a mismatch.
Rebel-INS
01-12-2009, 11:54 AM
Yes, but Morrison had a better chin than Patterson. I think that this fight would be similar to the Holyfield/ Foreman fight. But Patterson's chin is suspect. He'd stand in front of George and get laid out eventually.
Morrison also had a poor chin. If Foreman had caught him flush he'd have been out.
la-califa
01-12-2009, 11:55 AM
morrison had a little more power to fend foreman off then patterson did ..he also was a bit bigger too making it harder to be pushed around
two different fightsCheck out Patterson-Johanson if you want to see Patterson's power. Johanson's leg was still twitching as he was laid out! & Morrison didn't use his size against Foreman. He circled around and landed punches & moved away. Patterson was a much better boxer than Morrison. A stick & move style against this version of Foreman would be very effective.
la-califa
01-12-2009, 11:56 AM
Morrison also had a poor chin. If Foreman had caught him flush he'd have been out.ALA Foreman-Cooney.
mr. magoo
01-12-2009, 12:16 PM
Check out Patterson-Johanson if you want to see Patterson's power. Johanson's leg was still twitching as he was laid out! & Morrison didn't use his size against Foreman. He circled around and landed punches & moved away. Patterson was a much better boxer than Morrison. A stick & move style against this version of Foreman would be very effective.
Patterson was not a "stick and move" type of fighter. He was actually a bit more like Tyson than he was any sort of a boxer. Morrison adjusted his style for a one time only performance - something that George did not expect. But, in either case, I don't see Floyd strategically and methodically avoiding Foreman all night long. George would not have to land very many shots to hurt Patterson.
Bokaj
01-12-2009, 01:07 PM
Check out Patterson-Johanson if you want to see Patterson's power. Johanson's leg was still twitching as he was laid out! & Morrison didn't use his size against Foreman. He circled around and landed punches & moved away. Patterson was a much better boxer than Morrison. A stick & move style against this version of Foreman would be very effective.
As it was against Liston? Watching those fights it's very hard to imagine Patterson staying away for a whole fight against any version of Foreman.
ChrisPontius
01-12-2009, 01:41 PM
A young Patterson outworks the shuffling old Foreman. Too quick, too mobile and his power was underrated; Foreman certainly wouldn't land enough shots to stop him in my book. Patterson's chin wasn't great, but it wasn't that bad either and his powers of recovery were admirable at times. This is no dentable chin in the ilk of Moorer's.
No stoppage either way: Patterson UD.
I think the biggest problem for Patterson here is that:
-The 90's Foreman was very durable. He took something like 20 power punches in a row from Holyfield and was still standing. Briggs, Morrison and Moorer stunned him here and there, but never really had him going, either. They all probably hit harder than Patterson.
-Floyd himself is almost certainly going to get knocked down sooner or later .... or both. I think he could survive and last the distance, but that means it will become very hard to win a decision. Alex Stewart schooled Foreman and busted him up worse than anyone ever did, yet he still lost the decision because of those knockdowns. If it's a 15 round fight, Floyd has more time to make up for those 10 8 or 10 7 rounds, but on the other hand, Foreman has more rounds to catch him as well in that case. And we saw against Moorer that he remains dangerous throughout the entire fight.
round15
01-12-2009, 03:53 PM
I think the biggest problem for Patterson here is that:
-The 90's Foreman was very durable. He took something like 20 power punches in a row from Holyfield and was still standing. Briggs, Morrison and Moorer stunned him here and there, but never really had him going, either. They all probably hit harder than Patterson.
-Floyd himself is almost certainly going to get knocked down sooner or later .... or both. I think he could survive and last the distance, but that means it will become very hard to win a decision. Alex Stewart schooled Foreman and busted him up worse than anyone ever did, yet he still lost the decision because of those knockdowns. If it's a 15 round fight, Floyd has more time to make up for those 10 8 or 10 7 rounds, but on the other hand, Foreman has more rounds to catch him as well in that case. And we saw against Moorer that he remains dangerous throughout the entire fight.
Good answer CP.
Chris Warren
05-06-2009, 09:12 AM
A young Patterson outworks the shuffling old Foreman. Too quick, too mobile and his power was underrated; Foreman certainly wouldn't land enough shots to stop him in my book. Patterson's chin wasn't great, but it wasn't that bad either and his powers of recovery were admirable at times. This is no dentable chin in the ilk of Moorer's.
No stoppage either way: Patterson UD.
LOL Moorer had a worse chin than Patterson? Are you people on drugs? Probably so, you people have to be on something, Just look at how our country the good old USA is falling apart
Patterson was knocked down 7 times in one round by a cruiserweight in Ingo Johanson.
Jacques Royer Crecy a 166 pounder knocked Patterson down
Peter Radmacher who had no pro fights still knocked down Floyd Patterson
Roy Harris knocked down Patterson
Ingo Johansson knocked down Patterson 2 times in their 3rd fight.
Liston of course knocked him out 2 times in the first round.
Jerry Quarry knocked Patterson down 2 times
Jerry Quarry knocked him down in their second fight 1 times
Oscar Bonavena knocked him down 1 time
Michael Moorer was only stopped by Holyfield, Foreman and Tua all world class fighters but Moorer has the worse chin? Give me a break Jessu Christ. Most of you people make post like you never even watched boxing.
Shannon Briggs has fast hands is a bigger puncher and is a better heavyweight because he is actually a heavyweight and what did a 48 yead old Foreman did to him? Beat him around like a child
Patterson has been down over 20 times in his career so he could never handle Foremans power and would be stopped in a few rounds.
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