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la-califa
01-12-2009, 05:23 PM
Would Kenny Norton have defeated this version of George or was it just style's that would make Foreman blast out Norton everytime?

Bokaj
01-12-2009, 05:27 PM
I think even old George would have caught up with Norton eventually.

My2Sense
01-12-2009, 05:30 PM
I think Foreman simply had too much power for Norton, and in this case he'd have a big size advantage too. Norton almost certainly wouldn't be able to knock him out, and I don't think he could hold him off for an entire fight.

If limited-as-hell Ernie Shavers (who was also past his prime) could walk through Norton in just a round, that doesn't bode well for him here either.

Russell
01-12-2009, 05:47 PM
Hmm.

Norton's real Kryptonite was being against the ropes. That's how the trio of punchers that nearly killed him all got him out of there.

Comeback George wasn't nearly as aggressive nor did he apply as much pressure as George used to.

He can still knock him out, but he's far less mobile so it'd undoubtedly go on longer then a few rounds.

MRBILL
01-12-2009, 07:30 PM
Would Kenny Norton have defeated this version of George or was it just style's that would make Foreman blast out Norton everytime?

Never.... Norton never had the balls or chin to beat Foreman.....:patsch

MR.BILL:roll:

Muchmoore
01-12-2009, 07:44 PM
I think even old George would have caught up with Norton eventually.

Very possible. But vastly inferior fighters such as Morrison (whose chin was worse than Nortons most likely) went the full 12 and beat him.

This is a close one.

Bad_Intentions
01-12-2009, 08:01 PM
Foreman TKO.

ChrisPontius
01-12-2009, 08:13 PM
Hmm.

Norton's real Kryptonite was being against the ropes. That's how the trio of punchers that nearly killed him all got him out of there.

Comeback George wasn't nearly as aggressive nor did he apply as much pressure as George used to.

He can still knock him out, but he's far less mobile so it'd undoubtedly go on longer then a few rounds.

I disagree, in fact, i think one of the 90's Foreman's best aspects was that boxing him is like boxing a wall..... that moves towards you. He was massive, had decent stamina and heavy handed. Even Holyfield, who was very light on his feet at 205lbs, couldn't stay away for more than 5 or so rounds. I don't think Norton can keep the Foreman off, though he'd last more rounds than he did in '74.

Russell
01-12-2009, 09:38 PM
I disagree, in fact, i think one of the 90's Foreman's best aspects was that boxing him is like boxing a wall..... that moves towards you. He was massive, had decent stamina and heavy handed. Even Holyfield, who was very light on his feet at 205lbs, couldn't stay away for more than 5 or so rounds. I don't think Norton can keep the Foreman off, though he'd last more rounds than he did in '74.

I'm not saying Norton is going to box rings around him, but Foreman wasn't as mobile during his comeback as he was years earlier, obviously.

Hence the fight, regardless of the outcome, is going to go on a bit longer as you said.

My2Sense
01-12-2009, 09:52 PM
But vastly inferior fighters such as Morrison (whose chin was worse than Nortons most likely) went the full 12 and beat him.


Morrison always had underrated speed and boxing ability though IMO.

Could Norton box for an entire fight the way Morrison did?

heehoo
01-13-2009, 02:11 AM
New Foreman, same result. 2nd Round KO against the former Marine.

Tricks77
01-13-2009, 02:35 AM
I'm not sure some are giving Norton enough credit. He did have a somewhat suspect chin, but he also had heart and pulled himself up off the canvas. His only KO losses prior to being way past his best were a KO to Garcia, when he was relatively new to his boxing career and somewhat untested, and to a prime George Foreman. ChrisPontius mentioned Holyfield, which I think is a fairly apt comparison, given that they're both quick and very athletic heavyweights (Norton's athetic career is the stuff of legend, resulting in the "Ken Norton rule" that limited high school athletes to three track and field events).

I see a fairly competitive boxing match, though Norton spends most of the time backpedalling and counterpunching. Holyfield remarked in an interview following the fight that Foreman was so slow, he would throw a punch, Holyfield would dodge, and by the time he stopped dodging, the punch would still be coming and hit him.

My2Sense
01-13-2009, 04:13 AM
I'm not sure some are giving Norton enough credit. He did have a somewhat suspect chin, but he also had heart and pulled himself up off the canvas. His only KO losses prior to being way past his best were a KO to Garcia, when he was relatively new to his boxing career and somewhat untested, and to a prime George Foreman. ChrisPontius mentioned Holyfield, which I think is a fairly apt comparison, given that they're both quick and very athletic heavyweights (Norton's athetic career is the stuff of legend, resulting in the "Ken Norton rule" that limited high school athletes to three track and field events).

I see a fairly competitive boxing match, though Norton spends most of the time backpedalling and counterpunching. Holyfield remarked in an interview following the fight that Foreman was so slow, he would throw a punch, Holyfield would dodge, and by the time he stopped dodging, the punch would still be coming and hit him.

That final part is the key right there though. :lol:

My2Sense
01-13-2009, 04:14 AM
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fists of fury
01-13-2009, 04:55 AM
Depends which 90's Foreman.

THe version that blasted out Cooney and gave a good performance against Holyfield would catch up to Norton and knock him out, but the more shopworn version of George that fought the likes of Alex Stewart and Michael Moorer could have his hands full.

fists of fury
01-13-2009, 04:57 AM
Holyfield remarked in an interview following the fight that Foreman was so slow, he would throw a punch, Holyfield would dodge, and by the time he stopped dodging, the punch would still be coming and hit him.

:lol:

Chris Warren
05-06-2009, 08:58 AM
Very possible. But vastly inferior fighters such as Morrison (whose chin was worse than Nortons most likely) went the full 12 and beat him.

This is a close one.

Morrison was interior? Really? Seeing the fact Morrison had far more punching power, Was a better boxer. Please could somebody explain how being stopped by Lewis, Mercer and Bent 3 people means you have a glas chin? Lewis clocked Morrison and he got up. Lewis clock Tyson and Tyson stayed down. The bent Ko wsa a fluke. Mercer took Morrisons punches and gased him out and stopped him. So many fighters have been stopped More tham Morrison has but most don't get classifed as having a glass chin.

In any case a 60 year old Foreman would knock out Ken Norton in a few rounds.