View Full Version : Manny P vs Ricky H at a catchweight....
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 10:52 AM
who wins. Both are very wild fighters with more stamina and energy than actualy boxing skill. They could meet at 135. I'm sure ricky would be favored b/c of his size, but I know Manny fans will say other wise.
GazOC
08-14-2007, 10:53 AM
Hatton would have to cut an arm off to make 135...
I would favour Hatton but that would be right war. When he deals with pbf he could seriously consider it.
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 10:56 AM
Pijo, you mean after Floyd sends him back down to the lower weight classes for a 2nd time?
GazOC
08-14-2007, 10:57 AM
Pijo, you mean after Floyd sends him back down to the lower weight classes for a 2nd time?
I don't care how badly Mayweather beats him he won't send him down to 135....
Biggame
08-14-2007, 10:59 AM
Hatton Mauls hims!! Nothing else to say about it!!
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:00 AM
Why do you think it would be so hard for Ricky to make 135??? I would think it would be easy. I say this b/c he struggled a lot to be big enough for 147 which tells me he is a little guy that makes 140 easily. It's not like Cotto who struggled to make 140 and just fits extremely well in 147. Hatton can make 135.
we'll see jlrivera81, i love the fact everyones puttin ricky down, goin taste so much sweeter when gives floyd his first loss.
Caper
08-14-2007, 11:01 AM
I don't care how badly Mayweather beats him he won't send him down to 135....
Yeah I can't see Hatton making 135lbs though it probably would have been possible a couple years back, at this point his body probably wont allow him.
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:01 AM
Hatton Mauls hims!! Nothing else to say about it!!
Hatton better maul him within 5 rounds or he will be looked at as a bum.
GazOC
08-14-2007, 11:04 AM
Why do you think it would be so hard for Ricky to make 135??? I would think it would be easy. I say this b/c he struggled a lot to be big enough for 147 which tells me he is a little guy that makes 140 easily. It's not like Cotto who struggled to make 140 and just fits extremely well in 147. Hatton can make 135.
Hatton is very tight at 140, thats a fact. He can't make 135....
darkness
08-14-2007, 11:05 AM
Hatton is way too big and way too strong. End of story.
Hatton would stop Pacquiao within about 5 rounds. Size is too important in the lower weights, and with Hatton being a bulish fighter, he'd make sure that that size difference meant a lot.
Biggame
08-14-2007, 11:09 AM
Hatton better maul him within 5 rounds or he will be looked at as a bum.
Why is that?
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:11 AM
If Roy Jones can lose 25 pounds of Muscle, then Hatton can drop to 135. I didnt mean that hatton should beat Pac in 5 rounds or less literally, just more of a figure of speach. I do however believe he should beat him easily b/c I think pac would struggle to be dominant at a heavier weight.
GazOC
08-14-2007, 11:15 AM
If Roy Jones can lose 25 pounds of Muscle, then Hatton can drop to 135. .
Stupid comparision, Jones had bulked up that extra weight. Hattons already boiling to 140.
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:19 AM
It's not stupid. I'd say it's dedication. It's not secret about Hatton's dedication to his workiing out. We all have heard of his partying and drinking. If he wanted to lose 5 pounds during a 8-10 or 12 week camp, it could be done.
I agree, i think hatton could get down, it would be hard the later in his career it gets but some time next year he could do it, it would be hard but possible.
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:26 AM
Thanx Pijo. Hard, but possible is a good way of putting it. Afterall, we're only talking about a fantasy matchup. I highly doubt they would fight unless Manny decided to get brave and put on the weight.
GazOC
08-14-2007, 11:28 AM
It's not stupid. I'd say it's dedication. It's not secret about Hatton's dedication to his workiing out. We all have heard of his partying and drinking. If he wanted to lose 5 pounds during a 8-10 or 12 week camp, it could be done.
Im Jones case all he had to to lose 25lbs of muscle was to stop lifting weights and taking steroids. Thats not dedication.
Gsand
08-14-2007, 11:30 AM
Hatton is not tight at 140
This has never been said by anyone official and he's never missed the weight on the scales. He makes 140 easy
If he really wanted to he could make 135, yeah it would be a bit of a push but I'm sure he could...
He would massacre Manny P at 135 anyway/.....
ThePlugInBabies
08-14-2007, 11:31 AM
getting up to the 147 weight was no issue for hatton, he comes in to fights in the 140 division at around that weight, hatton would struggle like fuck to get to 135. manny would have to come up, and get battered in 6 brutal rounds. hattons way too big, strong and bullish for him.
GazOC
08-14-2007, 11:31 AM
Hatton is not tight at 140
This has never been said by anyone official and he's never missed the weight on the scales. He makes 140 easy
If he really wanted to he could make 135, yeah it would be a bit of a push but I'm sure he could...
He would massacre Manny P at 135 anyway/.....
Sorry, but Hatton has stuggled at 140 for the last couple of years. Fact.
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:32 AM
GAZoc, are you serious!!! you're a funny guy. You dont lose 25 pounds of muscle by simply stopping lifting weights. Why would you say Jones was taking steroids. That's messed up man.
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:34 AM
Well Gaz, if hatton is struggling at 140 like you say he is, then his going to find himself in no man's land. I say this b/c he clearly doesnt belong at 147 b/c he cant handle the size factor. so where the hell is he going to fight? looks like Floyd is going to have to retire his ass. Oh, and I'm not a Floyd fan. I actually wouldnt mind seeing hatton beat floyd .
ThePlugInBabies
08-14-2007, 11:36 AM
Well Gaz, if hatton is struggling at 140 like you say he is, then his going to find himself in no man's land. I say this b/c he clearly doesnt belong at 147 b/c he cant handle the size factor. so where the hell is he going to fight? looks like Floyd is going to have to retire his ass. Oh, and I'm not a Floyd fan. I actually wouldnt mind seeing hatton beat floyd .
collazo was a genuinely big welter, floyd isn't.
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:39 AM
I feel you Plug, but where FLoyd lacks the size Collazo had, he makes up for it in overall skills. Hatton couldnt deal with Collazo's speed, so how is going to deal with Floyd's. But like most say, styles make fights. I hope Ricky can take it to floyd's ass.
brooklyn1550
08-14-2007, 11:39 AM
Ricky Hatton by KO
ThePlugInBabies
08-14-2007, 11:40 AM
I feel you Plug, but where FLoyd lacks the size Collazo had, he makes up for it in overall skills. Hatton couldnt deal with Collazo's speed, so how is going to deal with Floyd's. But like most say, styles make fights. I hope Ricky can take it to floyd's ass.
i give sticky wicky next to no chance against floyd, but he won't be troubled by floyds size. like you said it will be his speed and ring smarts and the fact he is just a far better boxer.
GazOC
08-14-2007, 11:41 AM
Hatton will weigh in at 144ish for the Mayweather fight and stay there for fight time.
Oh, and damn right Jones was on roids....
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:45 AM
GAZ, come on man! are you really serious. Jones wasnt on damn steroids. He just ate a shit load to get diesel.
GazOC
08-14-2007, 11:47 AM
GAZ, come on man! are you really serious. Jones wasnt on damn steroids. He just ate a shit load to get diesel.
Well he's been caught doing it before......
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:51 AM
Really???? when? can you give me a source? i'm not saying he hasnt b/c I never heard, but if he has can you tell me where I can read it. I know about James Toney and Vargas, but I never heard about jones!
GazOC
08-14-2007, 11:53 AM
I couldn't post the acual sites, I think its against ESB rules, try the second llink down for starters.
[Only registered and activated users can see links]
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:56 AM
thanx for the link. do you believe it was only ripped fuel. if it was only that, i dont see a problem.
BewareofDawg
08-14-2007, 11:58 AM
I'd love to see Pac KO Barrera. Hatton beat Mayweather. Then Pac come up to 140 and challenge Hatton for the P4P title.
Stinky gloves
08-14-2007, 11:59 AM
Hatton would have to cut an arm off to make 135...
Its interesting how fat would look Manny at 140?
Icemmann
08-14-2007, 12:01 PM
You guys just wont learn, will you?
Pacman K.O.1 Fatton
GazOC
08-14-2007, 12:01 PM
thanx for the link. do you believe it was only ripped fuel. if it was only that, i dont see a problem.
God knows, it could have been ripped fuel or it could have been something else. I guess we'll never know..
How about we get Pacquiao on ripped fuel, then we can have the Hatton fight at 140.....;)
MacManJr.
08-14-2007, 12:03 PM
Manny is not a boxer he brawls. The only brawlers that can beat Hatton have to be bigger and stronger and Manny is at a big disadvantage there. It takes a boxer to beat Hatton.
GazOC
08-14-2007, 12:06 PM
Manny is not a boxer he brawls. The only brawlers that can beat Hatton have to be bigger and stronger and Manny is at a big disadvantage there. It takes a boxer to beat Hatton.
I agree, thats why I think Cotto would be a bad fight for Hatton to take.
MacManJr.
08-14-2007, 12:10 PM
I agree, thats why I think Cotto would be a bad fight for Hatton to take.Yeah boy! Ricky is a good body puncher but there is no way he can handle the body shots from Miguel in return.
jopez707
08-14-2007, 12:22 PM
Hatton can't make 135...no way...
Irish Steel
08-14-2007, 01:01 PM
HAtton will kick manny's ass back to thailand.
Chert
08-14-2007, 01:03 PM
HAtton will kick manny's ass back to thailand.
ah. manny is from the philippines.
ron u.k.
08-14-2007, 01:08 PM
i don't think hatton's tight at 140,he never has a problem making the weight.there's a misconception that he must do because he allows himself to blow up to about 180 pounds but that's not a natural walk around weight that's his excessive lifestyle weight.the thing is when he goes into camp he is a fanatical and dedicated trainer,i think he could make 135, wether it would be good for him is another matter,anyway he'd still blow pacman away.
Chert
08-14-2007, 02:25 PM
Hatton would KILL Pacquiao. It wouldn't go past 5
yep. hatton will bear-hug him to death. :lol:
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 02:50 PM
I think hatton wins. How many of you would actually consider this a mega fight? it's definitely not out of reach.
theunderdog
08-14-2007, 09:44 PM
pac demolishes hatton
if the catweight was at 126:D
HAtton will kick manny's ass back to thailand.
:lol:
He is Japanese you idiot.
knockout
08-14-2007, 10:00 PM
i would favor Pacquiao he would have to gain alittle wight while hatton will have to drain himself.
theunderdog
08-14-2007, 10:02 PM
:lol:
He is Japanese you idiot.
he's surely a boxing fan
johnco
08-14-2007, 11:56 PM
Hatton Mauls hims!! Nothing else to say about it!!
and since when did you favor pac??? :huh:huh:huh
coming from you??? hahahaha :fuckoff :yep:yep:yep
Mrboogie23
08-15-2007, 12:05 AM
Pacquiao loses. In all honesty, pretty easily. Ricky hatton will be too big and too strong and on top of that I highly doubt Hatton makes 135. He seems to get down to 140 but I dont see him getting lower. He looks to be in good shape at 140.
One last thing, people tend to forget that Pacman started at a much lower weight then he's at right now. How far up do you expect him to go up?
tays001
08-15-2007, 12:10 AM
i put it like this if agappito could rough up and make manny feel gun shy Hatton would make manny hurt bad and yes hatton walk through manny's shout that are carried by 1000 gorillas and who has the heart of 1000 lions cuz no matter how manny zoo animal spirits are with him no way does pac hit harder then Tyszu. hatton by ko in about 6
tays001
08-15-2007, 12:17 AM
com on this isn't serious number 1 hatton won't meet at a catch weight pac would have to go to 140 wher ricky would have all the advantages. how ever i would like to see haow far pac could go. i would like to se him fight diaz and i would put my money on pac i think pac can take diaz ou baby bull i mean
retriever
08-15-2007, 01:03 AM
Pac should fight Diaz or Castillo 1st at 135
Biggame
08-15-2007, 01:03 AM
and since when did you favor pac??? :huh:huh:huh
coming from you??? hahahaha :fuckoff :yep:yep:yep
Are you asking because I said Floyd would destroy him at a catch weight, or if he still was at 130lbs, or because I still believe JMM won the 1st fight and would win the rematch?
Who do you think would win cum breath??
dave82
08-15-2007, 02:22 AM
I pick Hatton in this as long as he works Mannys body he should have him within 6 rounds. Manny has showed weakness in his torso region
theunderdog
08-15-2007, 02:38 AM
Pac should fight Diaz or Castillo 1st at 135
pac should never fight at 135 unless he cleans out 130
psychopath
08-15-2007, 03:22 AM
who wins. Both are very wild fighters with more stamina and energy than actualy boxing skill. They could meet at 135. I'm sure ricky would be favored b/c of his size, but I know Manny fans will say other wise.
That phrase is leading . . . so how do you expect Pacfans to react now and what kind of response do you expect to get ?
:D
psychopath
08-15-2007, 03:31 AM
If Roy Jones can lose 25 pounds of Muscle, then Hatton can drop to 135.
Huh? :roll: :patsch :huh
Then why do you think Hatton tried to move up to 147 . . . dumbfuck ?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Gsand
08-15-2007, 04:55 AM
Sorry, but Hatton has stuggled at 140 for the last couple of years. Fact.
fact???
Says who, what source?
Total BS as far as I'm concerned.
His trainer has said on multiple occassions he makes 140 easily and he looks to make it easy enough at weigh ins
Gsand
08-15-2007, 05:12 AM
Hatton will weigh in at 144ish for the Mayweather fight and stay there for fight time.
Oh, and damn right Jones was on roids....
lol no he won't
he typically puts 7-8 LBs on between weigh in and fight so I expect to see him around 147-148 on fight night as opposed to 155+ if he was coming in at standard welterweight
GazOC
08-15-2007, 07:32 AM
lol no he won't
he typically puts 7-8 LBs on between weigh in and fight so I expect to see him around 147-148 on fight night as opposed to 155+ if he was coming in at standard welterweight
Oh, so fuck me over for 3lbs....:nut
PATSYS
08-15-2007, 09:50 AM
Pac by KO.
You seem to have taken a liking on your avatar. :rofl
Witty and original. :good
Too bad you dont know shit about boxing. :nut
Mrboogie23
08-15-2007, 02:22 PM
pac by ko? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Hatton to win with ease, though no way he makes 135.
achillesthegreat
08-15-2007, 02:51 PM
Hatton would eat him up. He'd dominate him. He would throw him around like a rag doll, soak up his shots and over power him. It would be a mess. If you maul, brawl and outmuscle Tszyu and Castillo then Pac has nothing for you a but a speed that wouldn't equate to shit.
dave82
08-15-2007, 07:53 PM
He did? In what fight? Any video clip that would show his weakness in his torso? :huh
From memory i think it was the fight against Medgoen Singsurat. Med landed a body shot in Round 3 and KOed Manny. I believe you can see it on youtube.
GazOC
08-15-2007, 08:29 PM
Hatton at 135? Pac will rape him. I hope this fight happens. :smoke
Don't hold your breath...I think Hatton is ducking Pac at 135.:patsch
ravtrav
08-15-2007, 08:32 PM
Pac By Brutal Ko
dave82
08-15-2007, 08:55 PM
For Christ's sake, I am talking about the present Pacquiao who is currently rated #2 P4P not the weight drained former flyweight Pac. Can you say that he has a weak body in his last fights?
I can't say for sure, I haven't seen Manny's last few fights however I still believe if Hatton works the body he can take him out within 6 rounds. And seriously dude take a chill pill, we don't know how Manny would perform if he stacked a few more pounds on, until such time i believe Hatton would take him out.
hellblazer
08-15-2007, 08:59 PM
Hatton is too big for Pac.
theunderdog
08-15-2007, 09:16 PM
Anyone picking Pacquiao should fuck off this site.
i picked pac to ko hatton if the catchweight was 126!!:lol:
hatton would have to amputate a leg to get there though
Mind Reader
08-15-2007, 09:33 PM
God knows, it could have been ripped fuel or it could have been something else. I guess we'll never know..
How about we get Pacquiao on ripped fuel, then we can have the Hatton fight at 140.....;)
Exactly we will never know, how is that an absoloute?:patsch
GazOC
08-15-2007, 09:37 PM
A what?
mad_takamura
08-16-2007, 03:58 AM
HAtton will kick manny's ass back to thailand. stupid pac ain't from thailand he's from china!:good
BoppaZoo
08-16-2007, 04:00 AM
i dont care what anyone says but Hatton would never make 135. he just couldnt do it and would probably die trying.
mad_takamura
08-16-2007, 04:01 AM
I think hatton wins. How many of you would actually consider this a mega fight? it's definitely not out of reach. then why make a stupid thread? to know what you already know?:patsch :patsch :patsch
mad_takamura
08-16-2007, 04:05 AM
I pick Hatton in this as long as he works Mannys body he should have him within 6 rounds. Manny has showed weakness in his torso region i don't think so manny ha the best abs in all of boxing today: all muscles with no fat. have you seen his training? they hit pac's abs with some stick or something how many sit-ups does he do in a day? can you believe he reaches 2000?!!!!
mad_takamura
08-16-2007, 04:07 AM
Anyone picking Pacquiao should fuck off this site. then fuck off in making hater threads:finger :finger :finger
Stinky gloves
08-16-2007, 04:16 AM
Anyone picking Pacquiao should fuck off this site.
Why, this is sport isn't it?
theunderdog
08-16-2007, 04:49 AM
i don't think so manny ha the best abs in all of boxing today: all muscles with no fat. have you seen his training? they hit pac's abs with some stick or something how many sit-ups does he do in a day? can you believe he reaches 2000?!!!!
cocksucking at its finest folks!:party
mad_takamura
08-16-2007, 05:14 AM
cocksucking at its finest folks!:party i'm just stating the facts the underpants:blurp
SugarShane_24
08-16-2007, 05:23 AM
I pick pac by an easy KO.
Probably a few well placed hooks to the body will do it.
It's at 135 you're asking right?
Then tell how the hell will Ricky move down and lose weight? Go on a hunger strike? Live in Iraq with the rebel forces? Donate his internal organs to science? Come on.
If he does make it at 135, he will be as dry as an instant noodle. It's just illogical for Hatton to do it.
theunderdog
08-16-2007, 05:34 AM
i'm just stating the facts the underpants:blurp
underpants. how creative. you learned that from your daddy pacdbest? you obviously know nothing about boxing boy. go back to sucking cock for $10 a pop
mad_takamura
08-16-2007, 05:51 AM
underpants. how creative. you learned that from your daddy pacdbest? you obviously know nothing about boxing boy. go back to sucking cock for $10 a pop go back betting with pacd'best then be pawned again:-(
theunderdog
08-16-2007, 05:55 AM
go back betting with pacd'best then be pawned again:-(
no shame in losing a bet. every poster here have made their mistakes once in a while. even your daddy pacdbest thought boomboom was going to ko de leon. i picked darch and he was ko'd in 5 and pacd picked boomboom and he was ko'd in 1 so whose worse??
oh and by the way, it pwned not pawned. stupid freaking noob. you know nothing in boxing outside of pac and the world cup.
mad_takamura
08-16-2007, 06:03 AM
no shame in losing a bet. every poster here have made their mistakes once in a while. even your daddy pacdbest thought boomboom was going to ko de leon. i picked darch and he was ko'd in 5 and pacd picked boomboom and he was ko'd in 1 so whose worse??
oh and by the way, it pwned not pawned. stupid freaking noob. you know nothing in boxing outside of pac and the world cup.so what? even if you know many things dawg the knowledge you have didn't save you in losing your bet! better sell your casino oh great scarface!
mad_takamura
08-16-2007, 06:08 AM
i may be ignorant on somethings but that is ok! i can learn. what i despise the most are fellas like you who had a decent knowledge in boxing,brags about it then alas: still loses on bets! that's stupidity on the highest level! better stfu cause you had nothing to prove on me. you think you got respect on me? maybe on your fantasized mobsters on your dreams that you cocksuck is the ones you gain respect HOMIE!
Raden
08-16-2007, 12:07 PM
This thread is a trash... no goat would fight with the bull...
theunderdog
08-16-2007, 09:50 PM
i may be ignorant on somethings but that is ok! i can learn. what i despise the most are fellas like you who had a decent knowledge in boxing,brags about it then alas: still loses on bets! that's stupidity on the highest level! better stfu cause you had nothing to prove on me. you think you got respect on me? maybe on your fantasized mobsters on your dreams that you cocksuck is the ones you gain respect HOMIE!
for the first time we actually agreed.
dave82
08-16-2007, 09:54 PM
To boost your argument, you cited a old video of flyweight Pac. That's classical idiocy. :lol: A weight drained Hatton can't possibly do body punches on a faster Pac who can go up the ring at 142 like in his last two fights w/ Morales.
whatever dude
Executioner
08-16-2007, 09:56 PM
Hatton would rip Pacquiao to shreds and he'd easily throw him around like a ragdoll. This one ends and early.
Thinman
08-17-2007, 03:35 AM
To boost your argument, you cited a old video of flyweight Pac. That's classical idiocy. :lol: A weight drained Hatton can't possibly do body punches on a faster Pac who can go up the ring at 142 like in his last two fights w/ Morales.
So.... this means that there is no need for Hatton to fight Pac at a catchweight....isn't it? They can perfectly fight at 140.
boxbox
08-17-2007, 03:48 AM
To boost your argument, you cited a old video of flyweight Pac. That's classical idiocy. :lol: A weight drained Hatton can't possibly do body punches on a faster Pac who can go up the ring at 142 like in his last two fights w/ Morales.
So.... this means that there is no need for Hatton to fight Pac at a catchweight....isn't it? They can perfectly fight at 140.
nope...pac needs hatton to be weight drained to get a chance. agreed?
Chileno606
08-17-2007, 03:50 AM
Hatton mauls him. Too big too strong, and much better inside fighter.
Thinman
08-17-2007, 03:54 AM
[quote=Thinman]
nope...pac needs hatton to be weight drained to get a chance. agreed?
Tell that to Domngo, not me. :D
boxbox
08-17-2007, 03:55 AM
To boost your argument, you cited a old video of flyweight Pac. That's classical idiocy. :lol: A weight drained Hatton can't possibly do body punches on a faster Pac who can go up the ring at 142 like in his last two fights w/ Morales.
So.... this means that there is no need for Hatton to fight Pac at a catchweight....isn't it? They can perfectly fight at 140.
nope...pac needs hatton to be weight drained to get a chance. agreed?
DAMN DOUBLE POSTED..DELETE
Why do you think it would be so hard for Ricky to make 135??? I would think it would be easy. I say this b/c he struggled a lot to be big enough for 147 which tells me he is a little guy that makes 140 easily. It's not like Cotto who struggled to make 140 and just fits extremely well in 147. Hatton can make 135.
nope nope and nope.
hatton does not struggle to make 140 but does drain.
135 = no way.
mad_takamura
08-17-2007, 07:41 AM
for the first time we actually agreed. yup. that's why i know why this thread is retarded. any elementary knowing that a welter be matched to a jr.lightweight will know this shit is retarded
mad_takamura
08-17-2007, 07:45 AM
i don't think so manny ha the best abs in all of boxing today: all muscles with no fat. have you seen his training? they hit pac's abs with some stick or something how many sit-ups does he do in a day? can you believe he reaches 2000?!!!! sorry about this. i should have said one of the best abs,i forgot.:patsch it mad me look like a pac cock sucker....
Executioner
08-17-2007, 10:39 AM
I can't fucking believe there's still some of Pacquiao's stupid fans trying to make an arguement for him to win! :patsch
puga_ni_nana
08-17-2007, 10:53 AM
I can't fucking believe there's still some of Pacquiao's stupid fans trying to make an arguement for him to win! :patsch
you are the one who is being stupid if you think hatton will not be weight drained at 135. :lol:
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