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jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:25 AM
On 1st and 10, then spoke about Tito and Jones fighting. These sports people are so fu***** stupid, they make me sick. All they said was how boxing is in a terrible state right now and how sad it is to see fighters who use to be great fighting eachother. They mentioned how the russians are kicking are butts so easily, etc.... Then they went to say they are real fight fans, but boxing is doing so poorly and how MMA and UFC are so much better.
I ask this, if they are such big fight fans, why the hell do they not pay attention to the welterweight division. Better yet, where the hell have they been this entire year of boxing. Why are they not talking about Floyd vs Ricky or Cotto vs Shane or Taylor vs Pavlik, or Calzaghe.....
Damn, what has to happen in boxing for these so called sports analyst to give it some damn respect. Our welterweight division is as good as its been since the sugar ray leonard days. These sports are not true fight fans. They are people who probably grew up watching Tyson only without even knowing about the lower weight classes. Damn pricks, every one of them. I wont be happy till they mention Miguel Cotto.
Motor City Sam
08-14-2007, 11:34 AM
Good point. Most of the mainsteam sports media is extremely lazy when it comes to boxing; too lazy to even pick up the latest copy of Ring and do a little research before going on the air. It's much easier to regurgitate that tired line of "boxing is dying" than to actually do your job and report a story properly.
emanuel_augustus
08-14-2007, 11:34 AM
What is first take? The only ESPN reg that knows boxing is Brian Kenny. The rest of those hosts are teleprompter readers.
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:36 AM
I was cursing at my TV while they were talking. It's pathetic to hear them talk about boxing. Although Skip was funny! He called the DLH vs Floyd match a pillow fight. LMAO!!!
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:37 AM
First Take is the new name for the show "cold Pizza". Brian Kenny is the guys who does friday night fights right?
Pimp C
08-14-2007, 11:37 AM
On 1st and 10, then spoke about Tito and Jones fighting. These sports people are so fu***** stupid, they make me sick. All they said was how boxing is in a terrible state right now and how sad it is to see fighters who use to be great fighting eachother. They mentioned how the russians are kicking are butts so easily, etc.... Then they went to say they are real fight fans, but boxing is doing so poorly and how MMA and UFC are so much better.
I ask this, if they are such big fight fans, why the hell do they not pay attention to the welterweight division. Better yet, where the hell have they been this entire year of boxing. Why are they not talking about Floyd vs Ricky or Cotto vs Shane or Taylor vs Pavlik, or Calzaghe.....
Damn, what has to happen in boxing for these so called sports analyst to give it some damn respect. Our welterweight division is as good as its been since the sugar ray leonard days. These sports are not true fight fans. They are people who probably grew up watching Tyson only without even knowing about the lower weight classes. Damn pricks, every one of them. I wont be happy till they mention Miguel Cotto.
You can't take shows like this too seriously, i've seen their act before, they say dumb shit to try and get ratings. Anyone who follows boxing knows that 2007 has been one of the best years for boxing in atleast 10 years.
brooklyn1550
08-14-2007, 11:38 AM
Was Skip Bayless one of the guys? Because he once said Jordan was greater than Ali as an athlete because Ali lost to Norton and Spinks in his prime. That guy has ZERO credibility in my mind....NONE!
These sports writers don't know shit about what is going on in boxing and are seemingly trained to say "Boxing is dead," regardless of all the HUGE upcoming fighters and the fact that 2007 has been and will be a GREAT year in boxing. They should not be allowed to talk about boxing on TV - they are no experts. Just dumb motherfuckers.
Kostya Zoo
08-14-2007, 11:40 AM
Was Skip Bayless one of the guys? Because he once said Jordan was greater than Ali as an athlete because Ali lost to Norton and Spinks in his prime. That guy has ZERO credibility in my mind....NONE!
These sports writers don't know shit about what is going on in boxing and are seemingly trained to say "Boxing is dead," regardless of all the HUGE upcoming fighters and the fact that 2007 has been and will be a GREAT year in boxing. They should not be allowed to talk about boxing on TV - they are no experts. Just dumb motherfuckers.
right on
Pimp C
08-14-2007, 11:41 AM
I was cursing at my TV while they were talking. It's pathetic to hear them talk about boxing. Although Skip was funny! He called the DLH vs Floyd match a pillow fight. LMAO!!!
Skip Bayless is a hack. The guy is always saying stuff that makes no sense. He's just trying to make a name for himself so he can get off of shows like the one he's currently on and move up to Sports Center.
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 11:44 AM
Skip Brainless is a freaking prick. He loves to say crazy stuff. I know I shouldnt take thsee shows seriously. I just hate the fact that these guys are suppose to be professionals. I believe that the reason boxing is dying to the larger public is b/c these so called professionals dont do their research and get the word on the great fighters of today. If they were to watch HBO or Showtime on a saturday night, they would see that boxing is very much alive. Shit, even the worse fights are more entertaining than 90% of baseball games.
jopez707
08-14-2007, 12:41 PM
I actually watch this show reguarly, they were talking about the Mayweather-DlH a lot before it happened and a little after it happened, it's nice just to have boxing in the mainstream ( a little more) these days.
Caper
08-14-2007, 12:47 PM
I actually watch this show reguarly, they were talking about the Mayweather-DlH a lot before it happened and a little after it happened, it's nice just to have boxing in the mainstream ( a little more) these days.
Most of those bastards never make it to the peanut inside the chocolate coating of boxing. Its a sad state of affairs when you allow sports casters who have no true passion for a particular sport to comment and write segments.
Irish Steel
08-14-2007, 12:58 PM
And probably the only reason they even mentioned BOXING on ESPN was because RJJ. They suck BIG time when it comes to Boxing. Espn created the RJJ myth anyways......:smoke
WHats the myth?
jimmie
08-14-2007, 01:11 PM
I dont see whats so sad about Trinidad and Jones fighting each other it would be alot worse if there aging legends where taking of Chad Dawson or Kelly Pavlik and getting handed bad losses. Let them fight each other if they want it was supposed to happen 5-6 years ago better late then never.
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 01:24 PM
I feel you Jimmie. I dont mind them fighting at all. My problem is that these so called experts keep saying boxing is dead in america when 2007 has been the best year for boxing in probably the last 10 years or so, but these assholes dont see that. If they were to really pay attention, they would easily see this fact. Perhaps, they could then get the average sports fan to tune in.
jimmie
08-14-2007, 01:30 PM
I feel you Jimmie. I dont mind them fighting at all. My problem is that these so called experts keep saying boxing is dead in america when 2007 has been the best year for boxing in probably the last 10 years or so, but these assholes dont see that. If they were to really pay attention, they would easily see this fact. Perhaps, they could then get the average sports fan to tune in.
I dont get how Boxing is dead when DLH-Mayweather just shattered the all-time PPV record even surpasing Tyson-Holyfield,Tyson-Lewis :admin That PPV alone is tripling what WWE or UFC does on PPV for the most part.
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 01:32 PM
Every time I see the guys over at ESPN talk boxing all they ever do is talk shit about how bad the state of boxing is and that it's a dead sport. I can't tell you how badly that pisses me off because all they're doing is talking out of there ass out of pure ignorance because they have no clue how many great fights are getting made lately. It's enough to almost make me want to put my foot straight through the fucking TV screen.:twisted: :twisted: These guys don't know what the fuck they're talking about and they need to learn how to shut the fuck up!:fire
man, that's funny!!! but i feel you 100%. that's exactly how i always feel. i was so pissed off when they didnt pay any respect to diego corrales after he died. that shows how pathetic ESPN is when it comes to boxing. i thought PTI would say something. those BASTARDS. I thought they would mention the Judah/Cotto fight b/c Judah is a popular name. But they didnt. I wish I lived near the espn main building so I can just spray paint the entire building with all the great fights that have come up so they can know!!!
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 01:34 PM
There are only is only 1 person on ESPN outside of friday night fights that I've heard mention anything good about boxing. Kevin Blackistone always talks about the welterweight division and all the other lighter weight classes saying how fantastic they are. He has mentioned this fact on many occassions during Around the Horn. I like that dude.
Motor City Sam
08-14-2007, 01:52 PM
man, that's funny!!! but i feel you 100%. that's exactly how i always feel. i was so pissed off when they didnt pay any respect to diego corrales after he died. that shows how pathetic ESPN is when it comes to boxing. i thought PTI would say something. those BASTARDS. I thought they would mention the Judah/Cotto fight b/c Judah is a popular name. But they didnt. I wish I lived near the espn main building so I can just spray paint the entire building with all the great fights that have come up so they can know!!!
I agree with you, but I wouldn't single out ESPN as a whole for being "pathetic" when it comes to boxing. After all, during the summer they broadcast WNF and FNF just about every week. I'd reserve the term "pathetic" for entities like Sports Illustrated, The Sporting News, Fox Sports Net, and just about every local and national sports radio host. Those are the ones who really ignore boxing, only mentioning it to throw ignorant criticisms it's way.
Motor City Sam
08-14-2007, 01:52 PM
There are only is only 1 person on ESPN outside of friday night fights that I've heard mention anything good about boxing. Kevin Blackistone always talks about the welterweight division and all the other lighter weight classes saying how fantastic they are. He has mentioned this fact on many occassions during Around the Horn. I like that dude.
Very true. I like Blackistone.
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 02:14 PM
I agree with you, but I wouldn't single out ESPN as a whole for being "pathetic" when it comes to boxing. After all, during the summer they broadcast WNF and FNF just about every week. I'd reserve the term "pathetic" for entities like Sports Illustrated, The Sporting News, Fox Sports Net, and just about every local and national sports radio host. Those are the ones who really ignore boxing, only mentioning it to throw ignorant criticisms it's way.
You're right Motor. It's not the entire ESPN crew. I'm speaking mostly about particular shows like around the horn, pti, espn first take, even mike and mike in the morning. Whenever it's time to discuss boxing, they always say something like "I like to a good prize fight like any other boxing fan, but..." then they go on to bash it. In reality, they dont know shit about boxing and they wouldnt know a good prize if both fighters punched them dead in their mouth. For christs sake, have any of them ever seen gatti vs ward, corrales vs castillo, floyd vs gatti, cotto vs judah, hatton vs castill, miranda vs pavlik, manny vs every mexican on the planet! i mean damn, the list goes on and on and on. none of these great fights get recognition. you would think that b/c DLH is in a lighter weight division that they would pay more attention to the actual division rather than DLH himself.
jaycuban
08-14-2007, 02:57 PM
They know alot about NBA, MLB and NFL, but should defenetly learn more about boxing.
jlrivera81
08-14-2007, 03:01 PM
I bet if Mike Tyson were fighting, it would be all over every ESPN show there is.
PolishPummler
08-14-2007, 03:19 PM
Bayless is a shit talker who loves to stir shit up.
Mundo
08-14-2007, 03:20 PM
fuck them! fuck ufc and mma too!
Motor City Sam
08-14-2007, 03:39 PM
You're right Motor. It's not the entire ESPN crew. I'm speaking mostly about particular shows like around the horn, pti, espn first take, even mike and mike in the morning. Whenever it's time to discuss boxing, they always say something like "I like to a good prize fight like any other boxing fan, but..." then they go on to bash it. In reality, they dont know shit about boxing and they wouldnt know a good prize if both fighters punched them dead in their mouth. For christs sake, have any of them ever seen gatti vs ward, corrales vs castillo, floyd vs gatti, cotto vs judah, hatton vs castill, miranda vs pavlik, manny vs every mexican on the planet! i mean damn, the list goes on and on and on. none of these great fights get recognition. you would think that b/c DLH is in a lighter weight division that they would pay more attention to the actual division rather than DLH himself.
True. What's also frustrating is that often when the media is covering a boxing story, it's something negative like Joe Mesi fighting with a brain injury or Tommy Morrison fighting with the HIV virus. I swear that when Morrison and Mesi were on the same card a few months ago, I heard more about that on EPSN radio than I did about any actual boxing match this year, except for Oscar vs. Pretty Boy.
They don't even put boxing results down at the ticker on the bottom of the screen during Sports Center or ESPN news. :-(
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