Most devastating losses?

[Pantera]

Psychologically, every loss is damaging to a boxer. But some losses are far more damaging than others. It all depends on what stage the fighter is at in his career. And his ability to re bound after being beat may tell us a lot regarding how that defeat has affected him.

What examples do you have of some boxers' defeat from which the fighter in question either never recovered, or was never the same?

Some just right off the top of my head...

Vargas / Tito

Tito / Reid

Tyson / Douglas

Vernon / Mayorga to a certain extent?

Arguello / Pryor

Taylor / Chavez

Zarate / Zamora

Any others?

[hopkinsfan07]

Calzaghe - Lacy
Wright - Tito

[Napoleon]

Hopkins - Tito
Calzaghe - Lacy

[heerko koois]

Holmes - Ali........

[Jennifer Love Hewitt]

Foreman/Ali (took big george 20 years to get over that)

Judah/Tszyu

Grant / Lewis (Lennox broke that man, and all of Teddy Atlas' horses and all of his men couldn't put Mikey together again)

Jones/Tarver (Roy became timid and gunshy after Tarver put his lights out)

[PH|LLA]

Hagler vs SRL

Tito vs Hopkins

I dont think Lacy was as mentally beat down by his loss to Calzaghe as people think he was

[Marnoff]

Hopkins - Tito
Calzaghe - Lacy

Those were both of the ones I was going to mention.

[Proud Warrior]

Anyone see the Micheal Gomez V Alex Arther fight?

[heerko koois]

:D Taylor - Spinks, Spinks will never be the same after that beating :-(

[Thread Stealer]

Honeyghan-Curry.

Although weight troubles and Mike McCallum also played a part in Curry's downfall.

[Circa]

how about ponce - boom boom? :smoke

[jackiebrown]

ray mancini vs alexis arguello

[Thread Stealer]

Zarate got so disgusted after losing a highly controversial fight to Pintor that he didn't fight again for like 8 years.

[dave]

Calzaghe - Lacy
Pavlik/Miranda
Norton/Bobick
Ali/Foreman
Foreman/Moorer

[KhanB]

reid v tito
judah v spinks (spinks was in his hometown and came in rappin with nelly and got knocked out)
hopkins v tito
gatti v mayweather

[jackiebrown]

a fight that saw both fighters never be the same afterwords

bowe vs golota I & II

[Rock0052]

wlad vs bryd 2!

Another good one. To throw a classic in there, I'll add the St. Valentine's Day Massacre between Robinson and Lamotta.

[Pantera]

I think we forgot Hamed?

[Pantera]

What about Pintor / Hearns?

[PH|LLA]

I think we forgot Hamed?

good one

[Thread Stealer]

What about Pintor / Hearns?

You mean Cuevas?

[Motor City Sam]

Schmeling's loss to Joe Louis was devastating on many levels. It devasted Max, and I imagine that the Third Reich wasn't too happy about it, either.

[Illmatic]

Hamed-Barrera

[Motor City Sam]

reid v tito
judah v spinks (spinks was in his hometown and came in rappin with nelly and got knocked out)
hopkins v tito
gatti v mayweather

Good list, but Spinks has come back from that loss pretty well.

[Illmatic]

i think the biggest has to be Hagler-Leonard...haglers been crying ever since

[stuistylee]

fenech after first nelson fight

[BigReg]

Benn v. McClellen

[Jose FM]

disagree with many on here...
Vargas/Tito, cause Vargas came back and even still has been very active.
Spinks/Taylor is a ridiculous mention, in mine and Spinks eyes he won that fight, hell definately be back.
ray mancini/ alexis arguello, this was just a growing pain for Mancini but he came back to fight another day.

I think Hamed/ Barrera is a good one. Haglar/ Leonard. Just cause both these guys were goners after their fight.

The biggest myth was Ali/ Foreman, i think this was the best thing that happened to Foreman, so i guess it was a devastating loss but life changing for the better.

[Pantera]

You mean Cuevas?

Yes, sorry. I meant Pipino...:patsch

[Pantera]

disagree with many on here...
Vargas/Tito, cause Vargas came back and even still has been very active.
Spinks/Taylor is a ridiculous mention, in mine and Spinks eyes he won that fight, hell definately be back.
ray mancini/ alexis arguello, this was just a growing pain for Mancini but he came back to fight another day.

I think Hamed/ Barrera is a good one. Haglar/ Leonard. Just cause both these guys were goners after their fight.

The biggest myth was Ali/ Foreman, i think this was the best thing that happened to Foreman, so i guess it was a devastating loss but life changing for the better.

Perhaps you are right about Vargas, but I sometimes think that he was not yet ready for Tito when they met. I'm afraid he was rushed.

It's possible that if El Feroz had faced Trinidad after a few more fights under his belt, he would have fared much better and would not have lost in such a devastating fashion.

Of course, that loss didn't really stop Fernando completely but...

[Stinky gloves]

Bautista / De Leon recently:think

[Mike T]

Toney/Jirov

[JAM Killer]

Hopkins vs. Tito

Calzaghe vs. Lacy

[andyZOR]

Golota v Bowe

[Mike T]

Cooney/Holmes

[bill poster]

Hagler Leonard
Grant Lewis
Hamed Barrera

Future one PBF Hatton

[Pantera]

Future one PBF Hatton

Counting on Pretty Boy to lose, I hope?:hey

[Napoleon]

reid v tito
judah v spinks (spinks was in his hometown and came in rappin with nelly and got knocked out)
hopkins v tito
gatti v mayweather

Gatti wasn't beaten mentally.

[anut]

1.cooney against holmes
2.frazier against foreman
3.foreman against ali
4.liston against ali
5.tyson against douglas
6.shavers against quarry
7.liston against leotis martin
8.vitali against lewis:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke
9.foreman against young
10.dokes against holy
7.

[juancho214]

Taylor - Spinks, Spinks will never be the same after that beating :-(:lol:

[Stinky gloves]

Golota v Bowe

Thats triky

[pipe wrenched]

Pavlik / Miranda.... although not sure Miranda won't be back blazing again, his camp sure has grown quiet.

[Napoleon]

1.cooney against holmes
2.frazier against foreman
3.foreman against ali
4.liston against ali
5.tyson against douglas
6.shavers against quarry
7.liston against leotis martin
8.vitali against lewis:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke
9.foreman against young
10.dokes against holy
7.

WTF?

Vitali came back a lot better after the fight with Lewis.

[Shotgun]

Taylor - Spinks, Spinks will never be the same after that beating :-(

That fight was psychologically devastating to watch. I don't know if I've mentally recovered yet :-(

[Pantera]

Not that he is a great fighter but

Mesi-Jirov

Obviously Mesi was seriously injured, but essentially Jirov basically ruined his career. Mesi may not have been World Champion material, but Jirov wrecked him from every being a serious contender

I would have to agree with this. Mesi is kind of a sad case in this respect. And the bad part was that he was killing Jirov when he got hit in the back of the head...

[Pantera]

WTF?

Vitali came back a lot better after the fight with Lewis.

Lewis didn't though... :yep

[istmeno]

4 pages, and not one mention of duran-moore

[myk]

Pac - Ledwaba

[puca]

Herol graham against Julian Jackson
Mc Guigan against steve Cruz
Hearns against Barkley.
Duran against Leonard

[jecxbox]

I don't think Winky - Tito was anything of importance to Tito. I don't think he gave a fuck..I mean that shit was like a sparing match at 1/2 the intensity of a regular sparing match. That took no effect on Tito mentally at all. Everything was taken by Hopkins. Hopkins - Tito is what you call a devastating loss.

[jecxbox]

Tito vs DLH...I mean hell DLH turned into a wreck after that fight.. Losses to mosley...Comes out of the closet as being a queer..this fact supported by his attempts to sing very soft spanish love songs......The fight was close and he still lost his mind..Poor guy.

[brooklyn1550]

Calzaghe-Lacy comes to mind in recent years

Also,
Trinidad-Hopkins
Moore-Duran
Reid-Trinidad
Taylor-Chavez 1

[paulfv]

* Lacy - Calzaghe

* Nunn - Toney

* Tyson - Douglas

* Harrison - the last bum that KO'd him

[Rock0052]

On a lesser level, how about Valuev-Barrett? Barrett makes the drop from fringe contender to being inactive for 9 months, then getting KO'd in 2 by Cliff friggin' Couser.

[Titan1]

Page-Berbick
Ramos-Sanders

[Burundanga]

Brewster - Wlad 2

Even though Lamon was arguably done already due to his eye issue.

Full props to both though....