Whats not to like about Cotto seriously?

[Slicknick56]

hes not very hyped up considering hes come through in all his fights with the last few being fights people believed he would lose. Here are some reasons to love him

1) fights more often then any other champion so we get to stay in love with him instead of forgetting about him and his excitement like most fighters. he stays on the tip of our toungue.

2) makes all his fights exciting with his brute power and brutal attitude in the ring. his face does not change, he is all business even with blood running down his face and dripping onto his chest ALA Judah fight.

3) Chin is solid, but to some its weak, making his fights even more exciting considering anything can happen at any time.

4) fights ANYBODY, has ducked no body and talks to trash for the most part. is all about business, we never hear him involved with talks of money or anything. he lets his management do his job and he fights whoever is put in front of him, no complaints.

5) after fights, is very gracious and even before. he always gives credit where credit is due and admits when things go wrong like after the Torres fight he was smiling and admitted that now he had seen everything a champion needs to see by hitting the canvas and looking up at the lights etc...

basically he is a fighters fighter and a fan favorite. all action, all heart, all warrior. anybody who talks bad about cotto doesnt like boxing and doesnt like fighting. i appreciate all styles like Mayweather, Hatton etc...but Cotto is just my favorite becauser he is all aroudn old school.

[GazOC]

I like him. I'd to see him have to fight at a pace he's not comfortable with but I can't see who can make do do that.

[King Dan]

Cotto is the shit.

Done.

[King Dan]

I like him. I'd to see him have to fight at a pace he's not comfortable with but I can't see who can make do do that.

Shane will land more punches on Cotto than anyone else.

Can Cotto stay up and stay on top of Shane effectively?

[BobDigi5060]

I respect everything about Cotto and his fight game. All business. I'll be rooting for Shane but am really worried for his health win or lose coming outta a fight like this.

[Slicknick56]

I like him. I'd to see him have to fight at a pace he's not comfortable with but I can't see who can make do do that.

well nobodys been able to do that yet because cotto doesnt allow it. he is so much craftier than people think. his style isnt even that orthodox but he uses old school shoulder feints, feet feints, eye feints, punches from all over. hes a sick fighter that still doesnt get enough credit.

[Boom_Boom]

Whats not to like about Cotto seriously?

His Fans!!!

but much love for Cotto

[Ramshall1]

I thought Arum pampered him a bit too long, but he's really stepped it up lately so much respect to him.

[King Dan]

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[King Dan]

I was there.

[istmeno]

I thought Arum pampered him a bit too long, but he's really stepped it up lately so much respect to him.

how was he pampered. he has been in against world class fighters since his 18th fight. granted not against elite fighters, but steadily stepping up in class each fight.

[Ramshall1]

how was he pampered. he has been in against world class fighters since his 18th fight. granted not against elite fighters, but steadily stepping up in class each fight.

IMO Arum shoulda stepped it up early last year. . . but hey he's fighting Shane next so its no big deal.

[Slicknick56]

lol didnt he fight Maussa in his 17th pro fight while Vivian Harris lost to him and Hatton was fighting him in his 40th fight or some shit

[GazOC]

well nobodys been able to do that yet because cotto doesnt allow it. he is so much craftier than people think. his style isnt even that orthodox but he uses old school shoulder feints, feet feints, eye feints, punches from all over. hes a sick fighter that still doesnt get enough credit.

I agree, I wasn't knocking Cotto because his opponents couldn't make him fight at higher tempo. I just said it would be interesting if someone could....

[duran83]

lol didnt he fight Maussa in his 17th pro fight while Vivian Harris lost to him and Hatton was fighting him in his 40th fight or some shit

Cotto is pure class, but Hatton fought him for one reason only the WBA belt, not the level of the opposistion which is sad but true.

[Slicknick56]

I agree, I wasn't knocking Cotto because his opponents couldn't make him fight at higher tempo. I just said it would be interesting if someone could....

yea i see what ur saying

hes soooo classy. remember the judah fight when they take a point from him and he bows to each judge while the point is being taken away. he is a CLASSSSSY fighter like ive never seen. A Joe Louis attitude of sorts.

[GazOC]

Yep, Maussa was just an easy belt.

[BigReg]

lol didnt he fight Maussa in his 17th pro fight while Vivian Harris lost to him and Hatton was fighting him in his 40th fight or some shit

Maussa is a bum who got lucky against Harris. Ramshall is right, Arum pampered him too long(expecially after the Corely fight). I mean the guy has still not beat a guy who was a title holder at the time he fought him. It kills me how guys hype up guys like Maussa, and Torres like their something special, just to make Cotto's resume look better. For years I've been waiting for this guy to fight a worthy challenger. Judah was pretty worthy(although he was coming off a year layoff), and Shane is worthy so maybe it looks like Arum is finally taking off the diapers.

[Fab2333]

I like Cotto, he is a decent fighter. I kno when he faces a good boxer he will get beat. Well after the mosley fight the 0 will go

[Fab2333]

Judah was pretty worthy(although he was coming off a year layoff), and Shane is worthy so maybe it looks like Arum is finally taking off the diapers.

Reg I agree with wat u said, but how is Judah worthy for Cotto, but he was a bum 4 Floyd?

[BigReg]

Reg I agree with wat u said, but how is Judah worthy for Cotto, but he was a bum 4 Floyd?

You're asking the wrong person. I thought Judah would beat Floyd.

[jonesjrp4p1]

i dont mind cotto not a fan but dont hate him either....i dislike him alot more now that he beat zab haha

[Fab2333]

You're asking the wrong person. I thought Judah would beat Floyd. Im not even going to lie same here. I did think that Judah was goin to beat Floyd. Zab gotthe tools to do it. I actually rooted 4 Zab 2 win, being he is a New Yorker like me. But PBF did wat he had 2 do to pull out the W.
I dont kno man, its just funny how people will say Zab was a bum, and thaty when Floyd beat him he was a bum. But when Cotto beat hima after a year layoff, it was a good win for him

[Slicknick56]

hahaha you guys are ridicoulsou

[BigReg]

hahaha you guys are ridicoulsou

Why?

[brooklyn1550]

There is no reason to dislike Miguel Cotto

[Marnoff]

After seeing him walk through fire against Judah in order to land his shots, I have become very interested in seeing him fight Floyd, as I don't think he will become discouraged as some might when Floyd outslicks them. He is going to keep coming with a ferocious body assault. I look forward to that fight as much as any that could be made.

[Sai]

Hes a great guy. Real class and a real hunger to win. Hes really humble and I respect the way hes learnt English really quickly so he can interview in English. I admire the way he doesnt get into shit talking and would rather just batter people into submission. You never really hear much about his private life either, which I really admire in that it shows hes a true professional. All around a great guy and a great fighter.

[Slicknick56]

Why?

ur standards are so damn high. you automatically write the guy off? you say his competition has been weak? yet every fighter he fights whether its judah, malignaggi, quintana, you still write him off to lose until he wins, then you make up reasons why he won.

[Fab2333]

ur standards are so damn high. you automatically write the guy off? you say his competition has been weak? yet every fighter he fights whether its judah, malignaggi, quintana, you still write him off to lose until he wins, then you make up reasons why he won.

wtf are you talkin about, I never down played Cotto's win. All I did was point out the double standard shit when it comes to Floyd. I say it was a good win for both fighters. Im just sayin how is Zab a bum when he fought Floyd, but when he fights Cotto its a good win for him. Thats all im sayin

[BigReg]

ur standards are so damn high. you automatically write the guy off? you say his competition has been weak? yet every fighter he fights whether its judah, malignaggi, quintana, you still write him off to lose until he wins, then you make up reasons why he won.

His competition has been week. Judah, and Malignaggi are good fighters and those are good wins. Beating Mosely would be a good win. I don't wanna hear shit though about Quintana or Torres or Maussa. For far too long the guy was fighting nothing but setups. I'll give team Cotto credit though, they've put him in with legit threats his last fight as well as his upcoming fight.

[iceman]

Cotto is the shit.

Done.

Agreed - Cotto has really stepped it up and his punishing style makes him great to watch.Easily top 10 pfp

[Lance_Uppercut]

It's simple. He's not Floyd, so some will hate him no matter what.:patsch

[jlrivera81]

How are Cotto's fans a reason to dislike him? Between Hatton, Cotto, and Mayweather fans, I think Cotto fans are the most reasonable.

Hatton fans think he is better than what he is b/c he beat a washed up Tsyzu and Castillo. They think he can beat Floyd, while failing to realize he nearly got beat by a B/C level fighter in Collazo. They will talk all kinds of shit about John Ruiz, but say Hatton is Great.

Mayweather fans seem to think he is the greatest of all time although he has NEVER defended one of his titles since moving up to 140. They actually believe he has done all he needs to do in his career to be considered an ATG. They actually believe they can argue that he is better Robinson and Leonard, when in reality, he has not fought any one of special note since stepping up to 140 besides an old DLH. You may be able to rank him as an ATG at 135, but nothing else. I will say he is the best today though so far, but he has not fought a young, hungry fighter. If he fights the winner of mosley/cotto and maybe kermit or williams later, he will silence everyone.

Cotto fans admit his flaws, but simply point to his strengths. We dont say things like a fighter isn't even in the same stratosphere like floyd would have his blind fans to believe. Cotto fights anyone his teams puts in front of him. Cotto fans want him to fight the best win or lose. We know he is not the best boxer out there. We just think that his strengths will allow him to be the best fighter. He may not be as talented as Floyd, but he has all the tools to beat him, moreso than anyone else.

[BigReg]

It's simple. He's not Floyd, so some will hate him no matter what.:patsch

Floyd has nothing to do with this thread, and you're statement doesn't even make sense

[Ramshall1]

Floyd has nothing to do with this thread, and you're statement doesn't even make sense
actually it does. . . Most Fraud fans hate on any other boxer thats a threat to the scumbag.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Floyd has nothing to do with this thread, and you're statement doesn't even make sense

When you've been here long enough Reg, you'll start noticing more.

[jlrivera81]

As far as Cotto's resume that someone brought up...Of course his resume is not as good as Floyds, but ask yourself this Floyd fans. Has Cotto ever taken a step down in competion outside of a mandatory. Every fight Cotto has fought has been a step up in competition except for maybe Urkal. Whereas your boy floyd has not fought top competition each fight. Every fight Cotto is in nearly, there is a huge amount of people that claim Cotto is going to lose. When floyd fights, we all know he is going to win b/c he is fighting scrubs half the time with the exception of DLH and Zab. Bruseles, Gatti, Mitchell, are you serious.

[BigReg]

When you've been here long enough Reg, you'll start noticing more.

Maybe you're right, for now I'll just have to take your word for it.

[jlrivera81]

The only thing I don't like about Cotto is that he prefers to fight 36 year old grandpa Mosley instead of Margarito, if Mosley still has some gas left in his tank ,he will KO Cotto.

Slap yourself playa. Margarito loss .to williams and doesnt deserve to fight Cotto any more. He is at the bottom of the list now man. Sorry.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Maybe you're right, for now I'll just have to take your word for it.

Believe me, I WISH I wasn't.

[BigReg]

Slap yourself playa. Margarito loss .to williams and doesnt deserve to fight Cotto any more. He is at the bottom of the list now man. Sorry.

Let's not play the "he lost so he doesn't deserve a fight card". Cotto just fought a guy coming off two losses(bad losses at that) and a year layoff. Margarito is still a worthy challenger. I have no problem with Cotto fighting Shane instead though

[Lance_Uppercut]

Slap yourself playa. Margarito loss .to williams and doesnt deserve to fight Cotto any more. He is at the bottom of the list now man. Sorry.

Deserving has nothing to do with title shots. Hasn't for many years now. As fans, we can just hope for the best and most entertaining fights available.

Margarito vs. Cotto would be a great one.

[BigReg]

Floyd's diehard nuthuggers here on ESB are so delusional, that when Floyd announced his retirement, they were actually happy and claimed that it was the right thing for him to do because he had nothing else to prove! WTF?:huh NOTHING ELSE TO PROVE? Floyd could fight a 12rnd fight and only throw 50 punches the entire fight, and his lovers here would say that he fought a smart fight and whooped so and so's ass! Its really ridiculous!

Fighters always have something to prove to somebody. However, boxing is a sport that you can't retire from too early. And say what you want about Floyd, the guy always fights a smart fight.

[jlrivera81]

My bad fellas, I didnt mean that Marg didnt deserve a fight with Cotto. I just mean he doesnt deserve one right now. There is no way Marg should be in there right now rather than Mosley. So I retract the words "doesnt deserve".
Margarito is simply towards the bottom of the list right now. Cotto should be looking at Mosley, then Mayweather. Afterwards, it's pretty much wide open depending on those outcomes. Let's say he wins both:D :D

Then he can fight Margarito, Kermit, Williams, etc..

[jlrivera81]

BigReg, I dont argue that floyd hasn't always fought a smart fight. It may be boring sometimes, but he does fight smart. I would simply argue that he has not yet cemented his legacy quite yet.

[Fedor Em]

Cotto is world class, inside and outside of the ring. Shane is too for that matter.

[dave82]

Cotto is world class, inside and outside of the ring. Shane is too for that matter.

I agree, both fighters are awesome athletes, highly skilled and always put on a show. Even though i'm rooting for Mosley, I believe the real winners will be boxing fans. I think it will be a great fight.

[andyZOR]

I have nothing against him. Overall, hes a great boxer with good skills.

[huki]

There shouldn't be any reason not to like Cotto. He gives everything he has in every match, has an exciting fighting style, takes risks, shows tons of heart, is very dedicated to the sport, and is very likeable as a person. Every time I watch him fight or watch his interviews he reminds me of Povetkin. Their fighting styles are similar (quick swarmers with boxing skills who break their opponents down) and their personalities in/out of the ring are too (relaxed and quiet, don't run their mouth like idiots or overhype themselves). They're also the biggest boxing hopes of the future in their nations.

I love that Cotto-Mosley is happening because to me, it is the most exciting matchup this year and is the hardest huge fight to pick a winner in. But at the same time, Mosley is my favorite welter along with Cotto and I would hate to see one of them get derailed, especially Mosley. A war that ends in a draw and gives both of them shots against Floyd would be the best possible outcome. :D Damn.. how great would it be to see Cotto or Mosley beat Floyd's ass..

[jlrivera81]

only fighters like Urkal,Malinaggi,Judah and Maussa deserved a shot at the great Cotto :yep :yep :yep

Slap yourself even harder this time. Urkal was a mandatory who had already taken step aside money. Malignalli and Maussa were at 140 lbs so why even bring them up. But they were both undefeated when Cotto fought them since you want to bring them up. Margarito was too busy trying to take a fight with floyd while Cotto was making a fight with Judah happen.

[jlrivera81]

also, did you forget Margarito was going to fight Cotto, but had to fight Williams b/c he was a mandatory and Marg would have gotten stripped of his title. It's not Cotto's fault, marg got his ass handed to him and loss his chance to fight Cotto.

[PR Boxing Lore]

yea i see what ur saying

hes soooo classy. remember the judah fight when they take a point from him and he bows to each judge while the point is being taken away. he is a CLASSSSSY fighter like ive never seen. A Joe Louis attitude of sorts.
He is real class,Mosley too I remember seeing that bowing to the judges and I said to my self, this kid can go all the way I don't know why I thought that but he has something very honorable about him,I'm glad this fight is being made and I hope Cotto wins too.

[Caper]

I was there.

Me too :smoke

[YOUNG*LORD]

The only thing I don't like about Cotto is that he prefers to fight 36 year old grandpa Mosley instead of Margarito, if Mosley still has some gas left in his tank ,he will KO Cotto.Margo fucked that fight up by losing to Williams...Cotto had already agreed to fight him...blame margo for the fight not happening, not Cotto.

[YOUNG*LORD]

Me too :smokeI was there as well:deal

[Thread Stealer]

The only thing I didn't like about Cotto is how he seemed indifferent as to who he would fight and just said he'll fight whoever his promoter tells him to. I know lots of fighters say that, but Cotto's been a pro for a long time, since 2000, and despite fighting a good mix of solid opponents with different styles, hadn't stepped up to the elite, and it was overdue, especially for a well-promoted Top Rank fighter with an extensive amateur background.

But Cotto's fighting Mosley and was supposed to fight Margarito, so him not fighting the true elite of a division appears to be pretty much over.

Most fighters I'm indifferent about, very few I would say I'm really a fan of, but Cotto is among those that I actually would say I'm a fan of.

[jecxbox]

Cotto is world class, inside and outside of the ring. Shane is too for that matter.

This is exactly why Mosley vs Cotto will be a VERY unbelievable fight becuse these two guys are real fighters who really fight. They are Boxing first and business later and thats what this sport is about.

And back to the topic of the thread..There is absolutely NO reason to hate on Cotto. Theres nothing to Dislike hes done nothing but help carry the sport of boxing at a time where it was truley needed. I mean Boxing was riding on a fine line as far as star players and up and comers. If you took Cotto out of boxing and assume nothing had ever happened. Things at 147 wouldn't seem so amazing. I mean you could say the same for every fighter but for Cotto its special in the sense that hes young, undefeated, and he is at his natural weight. Hatton is a 140lber so as far as him getting mixed up at 147lbs theres always the question marks.

Cotto is all class and the only type of person that would hate him is the type of person who is already comparing Cotto against some kind of 'all time great standard'. These are the fans that i wish would burn up and just die and gtfo of the sport of boxing. These are the people who hate on any particular fighter that might have something going for them because for some reason they are to psycho to see them for what they really are. Let the fighters fight who they wanna fight and when they retire then you can place them in their rightfull spot in boxing history..

[Chiko_Tech]

The only thing I don't like about Cotto is that he prefers to fight 36 year old grandpa Mosley instead of Margarito, if Mosley still has some gas left in his tank ,he will KO Cotto.

No he wants to fight him but margarito chose Williams and get beat up and now you think he deserve the fights, he was the only to blame because he didin't accept it in the first place.

[T.S.]

Mayweather needs to step in the ring with a Heavyweight someday he be humble real quick :yep

[MagnificentMatt]

hes not very hyped up considering hes come through in all his fights with the last few being fights people believed he would lose. Here are some reasons to love him

1) fights more often then any other champion so we get to stay in love with him instead of forgetting about him and his excitement like most fighters. he stays on the tip of our toungue.

2) makes all his fights exciting with his brute power and brutal attitude in the ring. his face does not change, he is all business even with blood running down his face and dripping onto his chest ALA Judah fight.

3) Chin is solid, but to some its weak, making his fights even more exciting considering anything can happen at any time.


4) fights ANYBODY, has ducked no body and talks to trash for the most part. is all about business, we never hear him involved with talks of money or anything. he lets his management do his job and he fights whoever is put in front of him, no complaints.

5) after fights, is very gracious and even before. he always gives credit where credit is due and admits when things go wrong like after the Torres fight he was smiling and admitted that now he had seen everything a champion needs to see by hitting the canvas and looking up at the lights etc...

basically he is a fighters fighter and a fan favorite. all action, all heart, all warrior. anybody who talks bad about cotto doesnt like boxing and doesnt like fighting. i appreciate all styles like Mayweather, Hatton etc...but Cotto is just my favorite becauser he is all aroudn old school.

You could say the same for Mosley...except the fights a lot in a year part maybe..