Win or lose.. Does Vargas get into the HOF?

[BobDigi5060]

Should he? Its not like the Mayorga fight is doing anything for his resume. Its only to proove to himself that he can go out on a win.

[istmeno]

only if he pays full price for the ticket

[Lex]

Yeh, eventually, I think Vargas gets in. That title win against Yory Boy was a thing of beauty, and Yory Boy is nothing to sneeze at. Campas is still a tough SOB, while Vargas can't take a punch anymore.

[juancho214]

hells no

[Fab2333]

hells no:good:happy:deal:thumbsup

hell no, why does he deserve to b in there?

[jopez707]

I doubt Vargas even thinks he deserves to be in the hall of fame...

[brooklyn1550]

No...great action fighter, not HOF material

[Motor City Sam]

An interesting question would is most deserving of induction into the HOF, Vargas or Gatti?

[Motor City Sam]

No...great action fighter, not HOF material

I think that says it best.

And, Brooklyn, it's good to see your new avatar. :D

[stillafan]

he deserves to be in ther as much as Gatti...NO!

[Stinky gloves]

Vargas - who?

[H .]

No!

[djrock247]

I think Vargas is realistically only about 3 or 4 fights away from Canastota. If he beats Mayorga soundly then beats Mayweather and unifies the heavyweight title I think he'll recieve strong consideration.

[Fedor Em]

Nope, even if he destroys Mayo he will still be on the outside looking in.

[bigtime9]

he's mexican and he sold alot of ppv's he's a lock;)

[jecxbox]

Yeh, eventually, I think Vargas gets in. That title win against Yory Boy was a thing of beauty, and Yory Boy is nothing to sneeze at. Campas is still a tough SOB, while Vargas can't take a punch anymore.

Campas...Tito left overs.

[jimmie]

Campas...Tito left overs.

Vargas was like 20 years old I dont give a fuck whos leftovers Campas was.

[sues2nd]

only if he pays full price for the ticket

:rofl :rofl :rofl

The answer to this question is HEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL FUCKIN NO!!!!

I dont even think Kirk would vote for him...:lol:

[dragosuhail]

no way. Hall Of Famers don't lose to every big time fighter they step up to. Hell, even with roids Vargas lost.

The Winky fight was the only one he won, and even then it was debatable if he really won.

No way in hell...

If we start letting Vargas and Gatti's into the Hall, then you've just lowered the bar to allow any fun-to-watch-fighter-who-lost-to-every-good-fighter-in-their-weight-class.

Why not put Augustus in there? Or some fighter with a 40 loss record simnply because he was always in exciting fights?

Gotta draw the line at great fighters who beat some other top flyers at the time.

[Toopretty]

Vargas gets in to the HOF for his great amateur career and name recognitiion.

[jimmie]

Possibly hes a guy with a nice win resume over Ike Quartey,Ray Joval,Javier Castejllo,Yory Boy Campas,Winky Wright,Raul Marquez. 2 time World Champion his fights with legends Trinidad and DLH although he lost was competitive and will go down in legend as the best fights in 154 pound history.

[carras]

nope

[carras]

If Gatti get in there (as some jackasses on ESB are suggesting) then Vargas should go too.

And so should Antonio "The Magic Man" Tarver.:good

fuck tarver!

[Rock0052]

Oddly enough, the way the math works, what really matters is how we view Ike Quartey's career. It's basically a given that Winky will get inducted. That gives Vargas one win over a Hall of Famer. If Quartey is considered HOF material, then Vargas will (I don't care one way or the other with the "should he" part) get inducted. Beating 2 Hall of Fame fighters (that weren't washed up, as well) before your 20th fight is going to get you in this day and age. The boxing Hall of Fame itself looks at fighters in a more optimistic light, as opposed to how this board typically works. I'm not complaining about that- it just is what it is.

Vargas also has wins over a few fighters I'd classify as "very good" and was lucky not to get "Reid'd" out of boxing considering how he was rushed. Call me crazy, but I think Vargas will get in by the time it's all said and done.

[kirk]

vargas is miles miles MILES ahead of gatti... and yet people are lobbying to put HIM in there?

Vargas is the youngest JR middle champ in history

Stopped Campas
Stopped Marquez
Dominated Ike quartey
Beat Winky Wright

and after he was already a done fighter

beat castillejo
beat joval


2 HOF Fights against Greats Tito and Hoya in which he gave as good as he got, came up short in the end.

im not saying that he SHOULD get in... but if Gatti gets in... theres no reason Feroz shouldnt.


and why the HELL do people bring up gatti in the same sentance as Vargas as if they are on the same level at ALL?

guys... maybe you forgot... but back in the late 90's, vargas was a p4p fighter.

i think in 1999 the Ring magazine had him at number 9 in the world p4p.

[fists of fury]

Absolutely not.

[kirk]

im not sure if he should or shouldnt...

but the one thing i do know is that if he doesnt get in... i know where the bar is set, and maybe thats the thing... i dont see where the bar is maybe.


Lets look at it this way

If vargas DOESNT get into the HOF...

what does that say about tito and Hoya... when arguably one of their top wins (and Ring counts vargas as hoyas #1 win. And how many fighters are you really going to rank above vargas as Trinidads greatest victory?

to add to that

if he doesnt get in... NO WAY IN HELL does ike quartey get in.

[henrik]

He have had some great wins over the years...but Hall of Fame...NO WAY!
then IMO you must have done something extra to go there..
and he haven´t....

[ozziebattler]

If Mayorga wins do you think he could possibly be hof material..??

For a lunatic with limited skills he has had one hell of a career.

[theHawtness]

no way!