When does a 'Boxer' become a 'Journeyman'?

[alba]

there must be some point in there career when a boxer becomes a journeyman?i couldent imagine someone would start there career wanting to be one.

and does a promoter make much money on a journeyman?

[Beeston Brawler]

Probably when they start losing as often as they win.

Guys like Lee Swaby and Baz Carey are decent because they come to win and actually test people. Ones that don't just annoy me, because they serve no purpose in boxing.

[flamengo]

As soon as a fighter has lost faith in himself and his trainer... and both agree to continue the partnership.

[Beeston Brawler]

When did that happen to Audley?

[alba]

does anyone know how much a journey man makes.

[brown bomber]

does anyone know how much a journey man makes.Yes... more then a talented poorly promoted contender.

[GPater11093]

how much is that roughly

[HairyHighlander]

Am i right in believing that some journeymen make more in a month than as mentioned a decent contender ? Hence the reason why they are defensive first and foremost as if they get sparked well they are basically autobanned for a month aye ?
I also would like to know the average "in there pocket" coinage, for example, Lenny Daws opponent last night, what would he have taken home ?

Cheers

[alba]

i find them intruging.surely there must be boxers who know ther pish,adn decide im going to be a journeyman.because there is loads of work for them.

i might become one if it pays better than my own job

[Beeston Brawler]

I think Buncey said on BBH that Buckley was always in the top 10 earners in the UK for the past few years. Take into account Hatton, Calzaghe, Haye, Woods, Froch, Harrison and Khan..... not many spaces left in a top 10 to be filled.

[brown bomber]

Imports get far less then the journeyman in the UK. I don't want to go into too much detail but your looking min 4 figures for any 4 rounder on the right side of the bill on a decent promotion.

[GPater11093]

i thought it would be much less

[alba]

Probably when they start losing as often as they win.

Guys like Lee Swaby and Baz Carey are decent because they come to win and actually test people. Ones that don't just annoy me, because they serve no purpose in boxing.


BB dont you think the latter type journeyman would prob get booked more than the other two journeyman.

[brown bomber]

BB dont you think the latter type journeyman would prob get booked more than the other two journeyman. Guys who don't or can't fight get fucked off by the board fairly quicky. If your fairly capable journeyman like Baz Carey, woh isn't particularly dangerous but will have a bit of a go and usually go the distance you'll get more work because you can take the top guys a few rounds and you not capable enough to upset talented new comers.

[Beeston Brawler]

You don't want an Eric Crumble type fighting here, or the Thai guys that get put in with ex-world champs as cannon fodder.

I think the board are a little lenient, Billy and Ernie Smith are just milking money, as was Peter Buckley for the past couple of years.

Guys that come to win (whether or not they are good enough to do so) are fine, but the ones that don't even attempt to win half the time need to be red carded I'm afraid.

[Vantage_West]

You don't want an Eric Crumble type fighting here, or the Thai guys that get put in with ex-world champs as cannon fodder.

I think the board are a little lenient, Billy and Ernie Smith are just milking money, as was Peter Buckley for the past couple of years.

Guys that come to win (whether or not they are good enough to do so) are fine, but the ones that don't even attempt to win half the time need to be red carded I'm afraid.bruv they do have a go and they can look after themselves.

guys who just come in to lose is somthign different to being a proffesoinal journeyman.

tony booth is very entertaining and immensly good value for money for example. it doesnt mean they are there to lose they just arent expected to win.

[Beeston Brawler]

Tony Booth was good, I will agree.

Just don't like average boxers compiling seriously padded records fighting patsys over and over........

Adnan Amar is 21-1 (or similar) yet has beaten absolutely nobody.