Medley.....world title shot!!!

[Marcus]

IBO champion Hlatshwayo faces Medley October 12
IBO welterweight world champion Isaac Hlatshwayo from South Africa will defend his title against undefeated Robert Medley on October 12 in the outdoor pavilion at Panthers World of Entertainment in Penrith, Australia.

29 year-old Hlatshwayo 26-1 (9) from Soweto won the vacant IBO belt with a unanimous points decision win over fellow countryman Joseph Makaringe on May 12.

This will be the first world title fight for 26 year-old Medley 18-0 (12) from Oakdale, NSW.

The world title match will headline a card promoted by Grange Old School Boxing ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) on a Jeff Fenech Fight Night that will be televised live around Australia on Fox Sports ([Only registered and activated users can see links]).

[Marcus]

Anyone know much about the guy he is fighting?


Come on Medley, make my signature come true!!!!

[Kegsy]

Medley vs Hlatshwayo on Fox Sports.:happy

Hlatshwayo is a great test for him.
Medley has the height & reach, so lets hope he can pull it off.

[Kegsy]

Wheres the link to the article Marcus??

[Dr Gonzo]

i'll be going to this for sure! who else is keen?

go Medley!

[Marcus]

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Kegsy]

Good old secondsout.
Hardly ever go on that website anymore.

[Dr Gonzo]

where do tickets for events like these usually get sold?

[huricn]

where do tickets for events like these usually get sold?

the fight will be at penrith panthers i live just up the road from there so i will let you know when they go on sale and how much

[MSTR]

It is a good start, although I wouldn't call it a true world title. IBO is probably the next biggest sanctioning body after the other Major 4 (WBC,WBA, IBF & WBO). Its still better then the WBF :(

[Dr Gonzo]

It is a good start, although I wouldn't call it a true world title. IBO is probably the next biggest sanctioning body after the other Major 4 (WBC,WBA, IBF & WBO). Its still better then the WBF :(

or the WBU :lol:

[Kegsy]

The IBO world title isn't the major interest for me, its only marginally better than winning a regional title.
The quality of opponent is what impresses me.
Hlatshwayo is a massive step in the right direction for Medley, & after 18 fights, you gotta say now is his time.
Medley wins this impressively & he is top 20 at Welterweight in the world.:happy

[MSTR]

The IBO world title isn't the major interest for me, its only marginally better than winning a regional title.
The quality of opponent is what impresses me.
Hlatshwayo is a massive step in the right direction for Medley, & after 18 fights, you gotta say now is his time.
Medley wins this impressively & he is top 20 at Welterweight in the world.:happy
Good Point.

[ozziebattler]

Panthers is always good for a aussie fight night.Might go watch as only around the corner..

Go medley...

[Super_Fly_Sam]

Madnesss... Im gonna see if i can get tickets

Bring it home Rob

[China_hand_Joe]

The IBO is nothing like a real world title.

We all need to make that clear, just like Mundine holds no world title.

[pecks]

I'm currently eating a pizza thats served on top of an IBO belt.

[Marcus]

The IBO is nothing like a real world title.

We all need to make that clear, just like Mundine holds no world title.

Explain a "real" world title for me.


Medley winning the full IBO title gets more cred than Mundines two paper titles :deal

[pecks]

Explain a "real" world title for me.


Medley winning the full IBO title gets more cred than Mundines two paper titles :dealI don't know how you can actually believe that, tbh.

The IBO belt is rubbish. Noone (either the champions of the belt) acknowledge it as an actual real world title.

I don't know what the criteria is to get a mandatory shot at the IBO (ask Kegsy), but it always ends up being someone with a somewhat far less impressive record than contenders in the real orgs (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO).

To win an interim title, or a 2nd tier WBA title, you still have to beat the number #1 contender in the division, or #2 if you are the number #1. So I'd regard the achievement of winning that title higher than someone winning the IBO title by beating some guy who has a record of say 23 - 11 - 5.

[huricn]

I don't know how you can actually believe that, tbh.

The IBO belt is rubbish. Noone (either the champions of the belt) acknowledge it as an actual real world title.

I don't know what the criteria is to get a mandatory shot at the IBO (ask Kegsy), but it always ends up being someone with a somewhat far less impressive record than contenders in the real orgs (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO).

To win an interim title, or a 2nd tier WBA title, you still have to beat the number #1 contender in the division, or #2 if you are the number #1. So I'd regard the achievement of winning that title higher than someone winning the IBO title by beating some guy who has a record of say 23 - 11 - 5.

while i agree that the ibo is easier to obtain then the big 4. i will still like to have an ibo title then no title. in 10 years when medley retires he can still tell ppl that he was a world champ(as long as he wins the fight)

[Dr Gonzo]

the only one i really respect is the Ring Magazine belt - the ratings system seems alot more logical to me

[Kegsy]

I don't know how you can actually believe that, tbh.

The IBO belt is rubbish. Noone (either the champions of the belt) acknowledge it as an actual real world title.

I don't know what the criteria is to get a mandatory shot at the IBO (ask Kegsy), but it always ends up being someone with a somewhat far less impressive record than contenders in the real orgs (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO).

To win an interim title, or a 2nd tier WBA title, you still have to beat the number #1 contender in the division, or #2 if you are the number #1. So I'd regard the achievement of winning that title higher than someone winning the IBO title by beating some guy who has a record of say 23 - 11 - 5.
The IBO title isnt very highly recognised worldwide, but its a great step in the direction for Medley none the less.
Need more Aussies taking these sort of steps.

The IBO has difficulty enforcing any sort of mandatory defense, as its rankings are based through a computerized point scoring system.
Thus meaning most of the IBO champs are around 10-20 in their respective divisions on that list, with most people from 1-5 on their list holding world titles.

[Marcus]

I don't know how you can actually believe that, tbh.

The IBO belt is rubbish. Noone (either the champions of the belt) acknowledge it as an actual real world title.

I don't know what the criteria is to get a mandatory shot at the IBO (ask Kegsy), but it always ends up being someone with a somewhat far less impressive record than contenders in the real orgs (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO).

To win an interim title, or a 2nd tier WBA title, you still have to beat the number #1 contender in the division, or #2 if you are the number #1. So I'd regard the achievement of winning that title higher than someone winning the IBO title by beating some guy who has a record of say 23 - 11 - 5.

Its a bit tongue in cheek.

But Mundine beat Soliom who wasnt a real # 1 or 2 contender in the division.

Medley is fighting a guy with a good record of 26-1 9KO. He is ranked #7 with WBC. His only loss was to Kendal Holt. And he has beaten Nate Campbell, Cassius Boloyi, Phillip N'dou.

Eveyone was happy with Vic being a IBO title holder.

Anyway, im happy for Medley :happy

[WhataRock]

Big jump for Medley, great to see him take the risk but he aint ready for it IMO.

The IBO may not have the cred of the other titles but really it depends on who you are fighting for the title.

Id say Antonio Tarver, who is the IBO light heavy champ, is a better win than the WBA champ Stipe Drews. Remembering the WBA is the oldest and arguable most prestigious of the all the alphabet titles.
Id say Ricky Hatton, another IBO champ, shits on every other champ at 140.

Hkjhgjfksdkjfhsdlkgh is a good fighter, not an elite welter, but easily top20. He is much smaller though, so that should help robbie out a lot because if the chips were stacked a lot more even in terms of size, the South African would have a field day and may well still.

GO ROBBIE!!!!!!!!

[pecks]

Big jump for Medley, great to see him take the risk but he aint ready for it IMO.

The IBO may not have the cred of the other titles but really it depends on who you are fighting for the title.

Id say Antonio Tarver, who is the IBO light heavy champ, is a better win than the WBA champ Stipe Drews. Remembering the WBA is the oldest and arguable most prestigious of the all the alphabet titles.
Id say Ricky Hatton, another IBO champ, shits on every other champ at 140.

Thats true, but in Tarvers case, if Danny were to beat him, he'd more be celebrating having Tarver as a scalp rather being the IBO belt holder.
If say Danny had some sort of obligation to the IBO that prevented him from organizing a fight with Drews, I'm sure Green wouldn't hesitate in throwing the IBO belt to the shitter and fighting Drews for the WBA.

[China_hand_Joe]

I don't mind the IBO rankings too much.

It is just the belt itself isn't highly prized.

[Robot16]

It is a good start, although I wouldn't call it a true world title. IBO is probably the next biggest sanctioning body after the other Major 4 (WBC,WBA, IBF & WBO). Its still better then the WBF :(
IMO Isaac Hlatshwayo is too small for medley, he has fought at ightweight numerious times. Medley should be too big for him.
Also you cannot call this fight for a world title.

[Robot16]

Anyone know much about the guy he is fighting?


Come on Medley, make my signature come true!!!!
He has been on firday night fight before with nate campbell.

[Marcus]

IMO Isaac Hlatshwayo is too small for medley, he has fought at ightweight numerious times. Medley should be too big for him.
Also you cannot call this fight for a world title.

I am, and it IS a world title fight :bbb

[Kegsy]

IBO, i wouldnt consider a true world title.
Only the big 4 are really world titles - WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO.
However i would rather win the IBO as a stepping stone instead of the WBC International Title, or WBA Intercontinental etc. Or a Pacific title like OPBF(WBC), PABA(WBA) or IBF Pan-Pacific.

[Dr Gonzo]

man there is some crap titles

IBA
IBC
IBU
WBF
WBU

[Kegsy]

man there is some crap titles

IBA
IBC
IBU
WBF
WBU
Who can ever forget the WBE too.:rofl:rofl:rofl

[Dr Gonzo]

WBE? good god

and half of them dont even have websites - the ones that do have been under construction for 3 years

[Marcus]

medley is a flat footed bum, if this south african has any skills it should be a walk in the park for him, but considering he holds the IBO belt he probably has no talent, Medley will fail regardless

God i hate cunts who bad mouth a good boxer like Medley!!! You probaly have never even sparred have you prick?

Go to grange old school boxing and take him on, beat him and you can have the WORLD title shot.

[Kegsy]

I would rename the WBU - "The Frank ****** Title".
WBF "Left Over Aussies That Could Never Win A Proper Title"

[Kegsy]

God i hate cunts who bad mouth a good boxer like Medley!!! You probaly have never even sparred have you prick?

Go to grange old school boxing and take him on, beat him and you can have the WORLD title shot.
No shit hey.
Mundine cumguzzlers.:hey

[Dr Gonzo]

Thats Medley for sure good thinking kegsy

what title have you got cunt?

CSF?

Cock Suckers Federation

[Marcus]

you know all about the CSF Jack D :yep I thought you and big red axe meat had a common ground with each other back in the hay day:lol:

smash him banker!!!!

[Dr Gonzo]

you know all about the CSF Jack D :yep I thought you and big red axe meat had a common ground with each other back in the hay day before Green was hulmiliated :lol:

Jack D? WHat are you talking about you fucking twit? HAve you got your finger so far up your arse that it is starting to mess with your brain?
Your the kind of person that should be taken deep into the forrest and disebowled with wooden cooking spoons.

Your a true miracle of science - proof that people can be cloned from a scraping off some old poofters infected foot

[Kegsy]

Thats Medley for sure good thinking kegsyWhen Mundine stops fighting Argentine taxi drivers, then u can talk to me.:yep

[Marcus]

Marcus did you enjoy seeing Mundine fuck Soliman up? just curious because I no you thought sammy had a chance:yep

I thought he would beat Mundine, like he did in there first fight. I was wrong, not the first time for me.

You never been wrong?

[huricn]

medley is a flat footed bum, if this south african has any skills it should be a walk in the park for him, but considering he holds the IBO belt he probably has no talent, Medley will fail regardless

also marcus this is not a world title fight unless you class WBU and the WBF as world titles and considering the skill level of these fighters is pathetic, it is in the worthy range of WBF, but if it makes you happy to think that go for it mate

are u related to barge cause u seem to know as much about aussie boxing as him which is fuk all. Medley is a top level fighter he just needs to control his anger in the ring. Medley will stop this guy inside 8 rounds.

[pecks]

Issac is pretty decent, was it he that won silver or gold at the last Commonwealth Games, or was it some other South African?

Anyway, perhaps I was a bit harsh on the IBO before, it isn't complete garbage, more of a stepping stone of things to come, and I agree with that.

[WhataRock]

Probably not pecks he has been a pro for some time now.

[BoppaZoo]

Isaac is a huge step up for Medley.

in fact if Medley was some how to win it would a a qaulity win fo him and us Aussie boxing fans.

Isaac's career
29 years of age 5-8
(26-1-0)
with his best wins being
Phillip Ndou SD 12
Aldo Rois UD 12
Nate Campbell SD 12

and his only loss was to
Kendall Holt were he was blown away by Holt.

the reason i give Medley a really good chance is he is naturally bigger and Isaac has fought at Lightweight most of his career. Medley is a natural Welterweight with a huge reach advantage.

Medley has a good chance.

[Robot16]

I am, and it IS a world title fight :bbb
I mean it is good for Both fighters to win this title and to say i won this.
But in no way you can say you are the 'WORLD' Champion after winning it.
I mean you have 'The Ring' Champ Floyd Mayweather at 147, WBA Champ Cotto, and Interim WBC Champ Shane Mosley.
How can either Isaac or Medley call themself a world champion after their fight.
I mean i am all for them to say hey i won this belt i am th IBO belt, but they cannot they they are the welterweight champion of the world after the fight.
Medley is the bigger guy and should take it.
Also If you are calling it a world title fight, did you call Rob Calloway a World Heavyweight Champ after he fought Bob Mirovic?

[Marcus]

I mean it is good for Both fighters to win this title and to say i won this.
But in no way you can say you are the 'WORLD' Champion after winning it.
I mean you have 'The Ring' Champ Floyd Mayweather at 147, WBA Champ Cotto, and Interim WBC Champ Shane Mosley.
How can either Isaac or Medley call themself a world champion after their fight.
I mean i am all for them to say hey i won this belt i am th IBO belt, but they cannot they they are the welterweight champion of the world after the fight.
Medley is the bigger guy and should take it.
Also If you are calling it a world title fight, did you call Rob Calloway a World Heavyweight Champ after he fought Bob Mirovic?



Medley will be IBO world champ :happy :happy

anyway, im sure everyone is goin to enjoy the fight.

[BigEars]

The IBO is today what the WBO used to be , recognized not as one of the big titles but the next best thing and above the crap titles .It is usually a good stepping stone to a World title(particulary the IBF) . In truth though the champion makes the belt , if an IBO champion(that isn't the real champ) makes better defences than a WBC champ(that isn't the real champ) then he is as much if not more of a champion than the WBC champ .

As regards mandatories and that here are the IBO rules on defenses:
All Champions, with the exception of the Heavyweight Champion, shall defend their Title at least once every nine months unless medically excused therefrom for valid cause and/or at the sole and absolute discretion of the I.B.O.
After initially winning the Title and within a period of time stipulated by the I.B.O., of not less than sixty days, the new Champion may be required to defend his Title in a mandatory defense against any boxer designated by the I.B.O. in the I.B.O.’s sole and absolute discretion as it deems beneficial to the division. A newly crowned Champion who was the mandatory Challenger or was ranked in the Top 10 as the Challenger is exempt from this obligation.
During each successive TWELVE (12) month period after winning the Title, the Champion at the I.B.O.’s sole and absolute discretion may be required to defend his Title in a mandatory defense against the leading available contender as designated by the I.B.O. Notice shall be given to all promoters licensed by the I.B.O.
The Champion shall also be required to defend his Title in a mandatory defense against the I.B.O. Intercontinental Champion provided that the Intercontinental Champion has held his Title for at least EIGHTEEN (18) months and has defended it at least three times during that period and one of those defenses having been against a challenger in the Top 50 of the rankings. The Heavyweight Champion or any Champion who is in the top five of the I.B.O. Rankings shall be excluded from this obligation.
The fact that a Champion signs a contract for a mandatory defense of his Championship, even though that fight is against the approved and designated Contender as stipulated above, it shall not constitute, in any case, compliance with this regulation, unless the mentioned Title defense effectively takes place within the periods stipulated by the International Boxing Organization. In each instance, and in each division, the Leading Available Contenders shall be defined and determined solely by the I.B.O.
Champions who have been medically or otherwise excused from defending their Title within the proscribed time will subject themselves to a mandatory defense if the I.B.O. sanctions a contest for an “interim” Championship. The Champion shall defend his Title against the interim Champion in his next defense, which shall take place within SIXTY (60) days of the expiration of his medical or other authorized extension. The interim Champion shall be classified as the Challenger in this mandatory contest.

Subject to the approval of the International Boxing Organization and within each NINE (9) month period after winning the Title, the World Champion may defend his Title:
1.) against any opponent selected from the list of thirty-five (35) highest ranked boxers in his category of weight or division, or,
2.) against any opponent between numbers 36-50, provided they meet all of the following additional criteria:

the challenger must not have lost his last contest.
the challenger must not have lost two of his last four fights by knock out or stoppage.
the challenger must have a positive record in his last six fights (e.g. 4-2, 3-2-1 or better).
the challenger must have boxed and won at least one contest of a minimum of 10 rounds duration. 3.) against I.B.O. Intercontinental Champions provided the I.B.O. Intercontinental Champion has defended his title at least once against a top 50 opponent, or,
4.) against a champion of another sanctioning body provided however that :

all officials are nominated and/or approved by the I.B.O., and,
the fight shall be conducted under I.B.O. Rules and Regulations governing championship contests, and,
the fight shall be designated as a unification bout. 5.) against U.S.B.O. Champions provided the U.S.B.O. Champion has defended his title at least two times, one of which has been against a top 50 opponent, or,
6.) against I.B.O. Asia/Pacific Champions provided the I.B.O. Asia/Pacific Champion has defended his title at least two times, one of which has been against a top 50 opponent.





I reckon the South African will win , yes he isn't the biggest Welterweight but as mentioned he has beaten guys the quality of Nate Campbell , Cassius Baloyi , Phillip Ndou , Aldo Rios , and a good few other decent South Africans . Medley on the other hand has never been in with anyone of the same class . He's been thrown in at the deep end , and my bet is he'll sink .

[WhataRock]

Cheers Big Ears :)

[nrgetic]

The IBO is nothing like a real world title.

We all need to make that clear, just like Mundine holds no world title.

But Isaac Hlatshwayo ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is a real test independent of the quality of the belt. I can recall seeing Medley fight but not with enough recollection to automatically right him off but he is going to do it very tough

[WhataRock]

But Isaac Hlatshwayo ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is a real test independent of the quality of the belt. I can recall seeing Medley fight but not with enough recollection to automatically right him off but he is going to do it very tough

Exactly more often you have to look at who holds not the belt not what one they hold.

Robbie aint bad, his size is going to be his biggest advantage in this fight, followed by the hometown advantage.
Isaac certainly is the much more credentialed fighter though, I think that will see him through but Ill be cheering for Robbie.

[Kegsy]

I think Robbie can win it & cause the upset.

If not, he will go down fighting as he always does with his big heart.

[Marcus]

Angel’ declares war on Medley

Bongani Magasela
30 August 2007

IBO welterweight champion Isaac Hlatswayo has declared war on Australian Robert Medley in the defence of the title the “Angel” won in May against Joseph Makaringe.


“I will sweat tears and blood,” said Hlatswayo who will be under pressure from sceptics who questioned his decision to leave trainer Manny Fernandez for Nick Durandt.
They rate Fernandez highly as a boxing mentor yet they still regard Durandt as the only genuine boxing manager in the country.
Medley, who is undefeated after 18 wins with 12 knockouts, is the stablemate of former IBF junior welterweight champion Lovemore Ndou.
After watching the tape of Medley’s victory over Kaizer Mabuza for the IBF Australasian title, Hlatswayo said: “He just cannot beat me. That guy is not a world-class fighter.”
Hlatswayo has proved beyond doubt that he is made of sterner stuff. Philip Ndou, Cassius Baloyi, Lucky Lewele and the highly rated American, Nate Campbell, can bear testimony.
They are some of Hlatswayo’s 26 victims. It took an unknown Kendall Holt to spoil Hlatswayo’s record .

“Nick is working on my strength and you know it’s been long since I won on a stoppage,” he warned.
His fight with Medley will take place at the Penrith Leagues club in Penrith, New South Wales, Australia, on October 12.

[Robot16]

We all know how the fight went know.

[chinachin_76]

Medley can hold his head up high that he survived 12 rounds with a quality fighter. But really, all Medley did was survive and didn't attack at all except for a late flurry in the final round which was all to late. What stopped Medley from going on the attack earlier? He feared getting knocked out. First round Hlatswayo just sussed out Medley and from there it was a boxing lesson. It may have been too big of a step up for Rob but it was a risk and at least now he can see where he sits in the scheme of things in world boxing.

[nrgetic]

Hlatswayo has a lot of technical flaws eg planting the front foot meaning he struggles if pushed back and he squares himself up when he jabs making himself vulnerable to the counterpunch but Medley was never committed to exploit these weaknesses. I think Medley performed below his best as he moved quite well and can punch, I tjust think his head wasn't perfectly tuned in to deliver his best despite him not being at Hlatswayo's level even at his best

[PIPO23]

Hlatswayo is not a big puncher.I dont understand why Medley ran for the entire 12 rounds. If Hlatswayo was a puncher that fight wouldn't have gone the distance.

[Thriller]

ive always said Meadly just bullies the weaker fighters they put in front of him!!
Where was the bully tonight?

[T.C.W]

The south African won every round and took Medley to school.

African jab was very good and just in a different class compared to the Aussie.

[EelsRule]

Has Medley always had Fenech as his corner man? If so I think it is testimony to him that he has gotten this far as a boxer. Fenech is hands down the worst corner man in boxing. It is hillarious to listen to him in the corner between rounds. I have never once heard him say anything that remotely sounds helpfull. I mean how many times can you plead with the boxer to dig deap. All he said last night was remember the uppercut.
Medley got severally defeated. And I think it is obvious that he is a domestic level fighter. I like watching him generally and hope he sticks with it. Weird tatoo fetish though.

[nrgetic]

Medley having The Watch Stealer as a trainer could not have helped his career

[Thriller]

i think Fenech tells his fighters in the cornor to dig deep becuase thats what he did when he was a fighter, it didnt matter if fenech was outclassed he dug deep and beat the other fighter with sheer heart and determination. Fenech must realise that meadly etc have nowhere near the heart that he had.
All fenech haters must remember Fenech as the fighter, who cares what he has done outside the ring, this aint a personality forum, its boxing.

[kel]

Why does fenech keep dying the top of his head orange? :lol:

[Kegsy]

Medley was clearly outclassed, but i was proud of the effort he put in & heart he showed.

[Robot16]

Why does fenech keep dying the top of his head orange? :lol:

Thats the only color he could steal...Haha.

Nah Fenech was a good fighter and showed temendous heart, just did some stupid things.

[one in a million]

It was good to see Medley come out punching stronger and more at ease in the last round, just a pity he didn't do that from round 1. I agree about the orange in Jeff's hair, not a good look BUT if it works for him and his wife, good for him. It is always great to see aussie boxing icons at our FOX fights & Jeff is definately one of them and is always there supporting the sport. Angelo Hyder is just a natural talent and is great for australian boxing. Tell me if I am wrong (which I'm sure someone will) but was Paul looking a bit less healthier in the face? Last time I seen him he was looking great/healthy :think Anyway I hope Medley learns from the fight last night and comes back more confident with more knowledge under his belt :bbb

[EelsRule]

Thriller, that is an interesting observation that this forum is about boxing not personality. Many would disagree.
Fenech is an fwit and all his loses as a ringman, manager, trainer, promoter come down to KARMA. Wouldnt you agree Melissa?
by the way, I think Melissa is really Oztriker. Someone should check that out.

[one in a million]

Thriller, that is an interesting observation that this forum is about boxing not personality. Many would disagree.
Fenech is an fwit and all his loses as a ringman, manager, trainer, promoter come down to KARMA. Wouldnt you agree Melissa?
by the way, I think Melissa is really Oztriker. Someone should check that out.
I've already been checked out :hey & I'm definately not a guy named Oztriker :hi: I do not think Jeff is a fwit but maybe you are right with some of the Karma stuff BUT you can also get good Karma it doesn't always have to be bad :thumbsup

[ozziebattler]

I've already been checked out :hey & I'm definately not a guy named Oztriker :hi: I do not think Jeff is a fwit but maybe you are right with some of the Karma stuff BUT you can also get good Karma it doesn't always have to be bad :thumbsup

I want pics oztriker.....

[crash]

i dont see why the big hate on fenech for,he gave his heart in the ring,he gets his boys shots at titles,he cant fight there fight,,,,,hes been boxing all his life,i think he must know more than people give him credit 4,

[bumdujour]

guess medley doesnt have a future.

this is very very bad.

[stuistylee]

fenech was a great fighter 2 watch...does any1 remmember if it was payakaroon that fenech fought and it was free tv and state of origin was on the same night...?i was really young and vaguely remmember watchin jeff then footy...

[boxon123]

Does anyone remember me posting about aussie boxers fighting with there head in the air not allowing there shoulder to come to the chin when they throw a punch to protect themselves? This kid could correct all his problem from last night in a couple of weeks 1 hold his right hand in front of his face ,not near his right ear.2 use his shoulders to protect his head. The guy he fought boxed like Ndou so he has had plenty of the right sparring.

[sambo1987]

It was a shame to see medley lose but the better man won and thats all that really mattered on the night. I did however spend most the night laughing at the african guys cornerman and how much he reminded me of david brent.

[LeonMcS]

"Two...can you count to two? Count to two!"
"One two"
"Ja, thats all you need to remember"

Inspiring stuff.

[Marcus]

IMO Medley totally froze up under the pressure of the big night. I cant believe he didnt let his hands go, then when he punched on in the 12th he won the round, and it almost looked like if he fought more rounds like the 12th he could have won.

I was screaming punch more punch more, but he kinda looked scared. But maybe he will be back better than ever.

Oh Medley chin :-( ..... out of 10? Tell me what you think?

Id give it 7 at best.

[Dr Gonzo]

IMO Medley totally froze up under the pressure of the big night. I cant believe he didnt let his hands go, then when he punched on in the 12th he won the round, and it almost looked like if he fought more rounds like the 12th he could have won.

I was screaming punch more punch more, but he kinda looked scared. But maybe he will be back better than ever.

Oh Medley chin :-( ..... out of 10? Tell me what you think?

Id give it 7 at best.

:danceare you looking forward to your new avatar? :deal

[Marcus]

:danceare you looking forward to your new avatar? :deal

if its anything like yours now yes!!

come on then banker, give me the avatar. :fire

[percy davo]

It was a ahme to see another Ausie lose a title fight .
I respect Medley for getting in the ring but if he had faught any of the raining champs that hold a good world title belt such as WBO IBF WBA I dont think he would have lasted the distance.

[Kegsy]

IMO Medley totally froze up under the pressure of the big night. I cant believe he didnt let his hands go, then when he punched on in the 12th he won the round, and it almost looked like if he fought more rounds like the 12th he could have won.

I was screaming punch more punch more, but he kinda looked scared. But maybe he will be back better than ever.

Oh Medley chin :-( ..... out of 10? Tell me what you think?

Id give it 7 at best.
I felt exactly the same way Marcus.
I was also saying out loud at home, "bloody let your hands go medley".:yep

I got the feeling he was worried about his chin in that match, as he was so hesitant to risk throwing some bombs.

[LeonMcS]

Originally posted by stuistylee
fenech was a great fighter 2 watch...does any1 remmember if it was payakaroon that fenech fought and it was free tv and state of origin was on the same night...?i was really young and vaguely remmember watchin jeff then footy...

Yep, that was for Fenechs second title and brings back some great memories! Dunno bout the origin, was in Vic then but do remember Payakaroon was going to give a kickboxing display in the ring after the fight. For some reason he never did follow through on his promise...
Also remember the cringe inducing commentary, I know it was a hometown fight and all but "Take that Payakaroon, you're going down son" wasn't the least biased commentary ever.
Still, a good night, a mate and I used to watch it every three or four months for years as he'd taped it.

[PIPO23]

Yeah exactly there's no way Medley can win an IBO belt by running and not letting the hands go..

[WhataRock]

Im not to suprised by this result, when you take such a big step up you are taking a risk. It didnt pay off but I think Robbie can come back from this and learn something from it.

Really for anyone that has boxed "just letting your hands go" is not as simple as it sounds. Especially in a tactical fight against a higher calibre of opposition, by going all out and letting your guard down you risk falling even further behind. I feel Robbie was trying to do that when he knocked down and of course after that his mentality is going to change. He was at home against a very good opponant, I think nicking rounds and not allowing Isaac to outland him significantly was the only way he was going to get this, its not as though he took a drubbing in every round. I seriously feel he was only maybe 7 or 8 good clean punches from turning a couple of those rounds in his favour.

Robbie did some pretty good things on friday. He moved well for 12 rounds and had Isaac missing heaps, he also deflected a lot of blows when he was pinned on the ropes. Overall his defence was quite good.
He just didnt have anything on his counters, he looked uncomfortable fighting that way. Like many have said, he looked overawed by the occasion and that can happen when you havent experienced it before.
I was disapointed he didnt use that right rip more, thats a great punch of his and I cant even remember seeing it once.

[WhataRock]

And honestly, what the hell is wrong with Phil Cropper staying as Robbie's trainer? He seems like a top trainer and him and Robbie have a good rapport. I dont see how Fenech was the right choice to be transplanted at the last minute, you could see Robbie was looking to Phil a lot of the time.
I think Fenech has a good grasp on the technical side of boxing, but mostly for boxers who fight like he did. When he is in someones corner for a fight he gets to emotional and panics, thats not what a fighter needs.

I must say I was impressed at the physique and strength of Isaac, I hadnt seen him at welter and didnt expect him to fill out so well there.

Medley showed some flaws, but I reckon they can be worked on and with some more experience at the higher level he could even become a fringe contender, which I got to say I didnt think he could.

[Marcus]

I thought Hatwatshock was very well built for a welter, i read that he was having trouble making 140, so the reports of him being a bulit up lightweight were way off.

Props to Hastwosocks for comin to Aust to fight.

Also his trainer was a bling ledgen!! Did you see the rings, chains and bracelets he was wearing!! He also cornered Hasblakcock very well.

[WhataRock]

He was pimpin, loved the piratesqe haircut and bandana aswell.

[Dr Gonzo]

I thought Hatwatshock was very well built for a welter, i read that he was having trouble making 140, so the reports of him being a bulit up lightweight were way off.

Props to Hastwosocks for comin to Aust to fight.

Also his trainer was a bling ledgen!! Did you see the rings, chains and bracelets he was wearing!! He also cornered Hasblakcock very well.

yeah he was a good trainer - LMAO at his balding mullet covered by a rolled up stocking :rofl

[Marcus]

Where is my avatar you slow piece of shit?

[Dr Gonzo]

Where is my avatar you slow piece of shit?

shut your pie hole :twisted::lol:

you will have it by tomorrow - i am still working on one for MSTR :hey

[Marcus]

shut your pie hole :twisted::lol:

you will have it by tomorrow - i am still working on one for MSTR :hey

Its " shut your bong hole, hippy "

Cotto in a dress, or maybe him puching people low would suit.

[Dr Gonzo]

Its " shut your bong hole, hippy "

Cotto in a dress, or maybe him puching people low would suit.

:yep thats the idea!

[Dr Gonzo]

here you go Marcus... have fun!

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[Marcus]

here you go Marcus... have fun!

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yummy!!!!

[Kegsy]

here you go Marcus... have fun!

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:rofl:rofl:rofl

[Dr Gonzo]

:rofl:rofl:rofl

MSTR's will be worse :hey

[Marcus]

:rofl:rofl:rofl


You would hit it :yep

[Kegsy]

You would hit it :yep
I cant hit it coz she is taken.:yep

[Marcus]

I cant hit it coz she is taken.:yep

Good point, stay away from my BIG TITTED MONSTER!!!!

[WhataRock]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[zalman]

here you go Marcus... have fun!

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Holy cow, what a hottie :yep