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FLINT ISLAND
01-20-2009, 05:56 PM
Amir Khan turned pro in a blaze of glory.

The 17 year old Olympic hot shot.

"Well I decided I wanted to be a World Champion more than a Olympic
Champion"

and

"By the time the 2008 Games come around I will be a World Champion by then"

Said Khan as he changed his decsion to stay amateur for the 2008 Olympics so that he could upgrade his Silver Medal to a Gold Medal and turn pro instead.

(Even though there was no guarentee he would win a Gold Medal in the 2008 Olympics but Khan talked about it as if it was some kind of guarentee)

Eventually Khan bowed to the pressure and tempation of the professional game.

And on sigining with Frank ****** became a instant millionaire and celebrity.

The Golden Boy Of British Boxing.

Khan saw winning a World title as a formality...............and wanted a World Title by the time he was 20 years.

After his first professional fight he said

"Not long to go now".................regarding becoming World Champion.

Early on in his career he looked like he was going to be right.

He blew away inferior oppostion in sensastional style and looked a really classy operator and powerful.

After only a handful of fights he was straining at the leash and begging Frank ****** to let him fight the Worlds best :nut

He wanted big names like Manny Pac .........even as a novice pro :lol:

He bragged in a Amercian Boxing Magazine he could even then at that stage beat Floyd Mayweather over 4 rounds :lol:

"He's even better than Naz"............said people over a pint.

His only blemish was a flash knockdown to some tough experienced bigger guy in probaly his toughest fight to date.

But it was nothing to get too concerned about.

He was then on the front of Ring Magazine..........the hype was growing......

"I want to be the new Floyd Mayweather from England" .........the front page said

But upped in class the wheels loosened and then came right off.

Willie Limond and Bedis Presscott exposed Khans fatal flaws.

Its easy now to call him a china chin exposed fighter.

But remeber how lofty his expectations were and how many people believed.

Remeber how classy he looked.

But what now...........where will his career go from here?

If you believed the hype he would be undipsuted Champion by now.

It has not happened...........not even close.

But what will happen to Khans career in the years ahead?

Will he become World elite like he said he would?

alba
01-20-2009, 06:00 PM
he will be world champ but expect him to lose it a few times.he needs to get rid of the family arounf him and advice they give him.

brown bomber
01-20-2009, 06:01 PM
I think he either loses to or beats a past it barrera. He may just be fast enough to stay out of the way but my head keeps saying Barrera knows too much and will melt him like a chock ice on a hot day.

Presuming he gets by Barrera, he fights Arthur for the vacant title and I think Arthur wrecks him... however presuming he gets by Arthur... Prescott or another puncher will beat him before too long. World class boxers get hit, a lot... and he hasn't got the beard to take it.

TFFP
01-20-2009, 06:13 PM
I'm not reading that shitty format of text.

My expectations are he'll get knocked out very shortly. I'm 50/50 as to whether it will be against Barrera, or soon after.

BamBam
01-20-2009, 06:25 PM
Yep eventually he gets starched in spectular fashion again. As Jeff pointed out, world class boxers get hit a lot because they fight other world class boxers on a regular basis. You can't be at the elite level and not get caught. If he's getting stuck on his arse by Limond and Gomez (no disrepect to the two boys but they are hardly murderous punchers) then 99% of decent level lightweights are going to have at least the potential to knock him out.

bored
01-20-2009, 06:27 PM
He will get his arse kicked by Barrera and take up dance.

Smith
01-20-2009, 06:31 PM
Good post, well put.

I agree with Jeff, he beats Barrerra(big if), Arthur beats him convincingly in my book.

He will at one stage win a world title and be a top contender in a very weak light welterweight division in the future though.

LiamE
01-20-2009, 06:57 PM
I think he either loses to or beats a past it barrera.

Profound Jeff.

Doesnt having the fence up your arse hurt?

FLINT ISLAND
01-20-2009, 07:00 PM
Profound Jeff.

Doesnt having the fence up your arse hurt?

:lol:

nulty
01-20-2009, 07:07 PM
****** hates Marco. But an old past prime Marco will win this in a shutout.

Bonavena25
01-20-2009, 07:46 PM
He's got that vacant look on his face that tells me he still hasn't learned a great deal since Prescott.

It's the same look Theo Walcott has got. Something that tells you thay they won't reach their full potential.

Pug1list
01-20-2009, 07:50 PM
Khan will be multiple time world champ, will have aa for dinner.

Beatboxer
01-20-2009, 08:20 PM
Nice post Flint Island! I particularly like the part about him being better than Naz over a pint HA!

I actually have a feeling that he will beat Barrera...whom is well past his best and fighting at a very high weight relative to his size. Do I think he will fufil his World Title ambitions? No. As others here have said, that china chin will be his undoing ala Herbie Hide. It really is that bad. The fact that he has a terrible defence and a limited offense (head hunter) doesn't bode well either.......

Furthermore, he plys his trade in the talent rich 135 divison. Can I see him beating the likes of Juan Diaz, Nate or JMM in the immediate future? Can I heck. And while the latter two are likely to age and retire in the next few years, the former will b around for quite some time to come...

Ironically, his best chance to win a belt might be to go to the comparitviely shallow Junior Welterweight division. Even then, I can't see him getting past the best in the division....

To cut a long story short, his china chin + mediocre defence = losses at World Class level.

I suspect European honours is his limit.

GazOC
01-20-2009, 08:37 PM
I think he either loses to or beats a past it barrera. .


So you don't fancy the draw then Jeff?;)

FLINT ISLAND
01-20-2009, 08:59 PM
So you don't fancy the draw then Jeff?;)

:lol:

PaddyD1983
01-21-2009, 04:34 AM
I'm not reading that shitty format of text.

:rofl

I expect Khan to get an alphabet title at some stage in his career but finish with a record of something like 44-6(6)

Each time he fights a puncher it will be lights out.

stuey
01-21-2009, 04:44 AM
i cant see alex arthur beating him at all:nono

AAA is very ordinary, Khan would stop him imo.....

but the truth is, once he reaches fringe elite, he's getting starched again:verysad

possibly even by MAB:think

D-MAC
01-21-2009, 05:13 AM
If he sticks to it Khan will probably bounce between paper-champ and contender for the rest of his career; ie: win a few, get a shot at a vacant title or the weakest champ, win the title, then make a few defences, people start to believe, then he gets taken out by a big puncher and he starts from scratch again.

Best he can hope for is to be remembered as a two-weight world champ when he retires, but it will be of the paper-champ variety; I can't see him unifying titles and taking over a division, no matter how weak said division might appear.

Beeston Brawler
01-21-2009, 05:25 AM
Even if he does, by some miracle, take over a division, there will always be somebody willing to step up a weight for short money in order to check his whiskers.

Fat Joe
01-21-2009, 05:27 AM
He's got that vacant look on his face that tells me he still hasn't learned a great deal since Prescott.

It's the same look Theo Walcott has got. Something that tells you thay they won't reach their full potential.

:yep They have the same "energy"

D-MAC
01-21-2009, 06:14 AM
:yep They have the same "energy"

:lol:

Lets not start that ball rolling again.

Jud
01-21-2009, 07:07 AM
what do you guys think his record will be in about 5 years?and also acheivments wise what do you honestly think he will acheive?

PaddyD1983
01-21-2009, 07:10 AM
what do you guys think his record will be in about 5 years?and also acheivments wise what do you honestly think he will acheive?

Alot to be said here for the match making he gets. I fully expected him not to fight another live opponent for about 18 months following the Prescott fight. Then MAB is announced. Obviously we have to wait and see how much he has left, but still a dangerous fight.

If he keeps taking those fights I can see him finishing with a fair few 'L's on his record, but being respected for stepping up.

treva1977
01-21-2009, 07:14 AM
i think he will be one of those fighters who wins a title then loses it then wins one and loses it again several times.

FLINT ISLAND
01-21-2009, 07:43 AM
Does anyone believe he will ever win one of these top world titles?

Like a WBC title.

Does anyone believe Amir Khan will become a WBC Champion?

Whoever he beats.......even if it was for a vacant title.........will he ever be on that level?

Or will he just be a flop like Audley and never deliever at the top level?

PaddyD1983
01-21-2009, 07:48 AM
Does anyone believe he will ever win one of these top world titles?

Like a WBC title.

Does anyone believe Amir Khan will become a WBC Champion?

Whoever he beats.......even if it was for a vacant title.........will he ever be on that level?

Or will he just be a flop like Audley and never deliever at the top level?

Its hard to name the belt Flint. I mean Gavin Rees won a WBA and I dont think anyone would really put him on that level.

Jud
01-21-2009, 07:49 AM
Does anyone believe he will ever win one of these top world titles?

Like a WBC title.

Does anyone believe Amir Khan will become a WBC Champion?

Whoever he beats.......even if it was for a vacant title.........will he ever be on that level?

Or will he just be a flop like Audley and never deliever at the top level?

He'll probaly fight a bum for the vacant WBO & then get starched by a mandatory challanger after a couple of defences imo.

antcull
01-21-2009, 07:56 AM
I still don't get why people consider WBC the top title, just as bad as the other 4 titles.

I'm very confident Khan will pick up a world title in his career, and just as confident he will lose it fairly quickly.

In terms of unifying and staying a long term champ....doubt it.

FLINT ISLAND
01-21-2009, 08:06 AM
He'll probaly fight a bum for the vacant WBO & then get starched by a mandatory challanger after a couple of defences imo.


yes I know that will probaly happen...........as does to most Frank ****** fighters

But can he progress beyond that and become a real World Class Operator

Like Naz was WBO Champ for ****** for a long time..........but went on to beat the WBA Champion and win WBC and IBF titles and mix it with the likes of a prime Marco Antonio Barrera

Can Khan go past the WBO and win other World belts and mix it and be competitve with the elite at his weight

on the same level that these fighters have

Lennox Lewis
David Haye
Joe Calzaghe
Ricky Hatton
Naseem Hamed

these are the fighters who have mixed it with the best of their division and proved real world class

Will Khan ever be at this level?

FLINT ISLAND
01-21-2009, 08:13 AM
Also most people would have made Khan clear favorite to beat Kevin Mitchell a while back.

Now Khan is exposed as having a glass jaw................while Micthell has proved he has got a real tough jaw.

Khans record has been soiled by a heavy KO loss..........while Micthell remains unbeaten.

I wonder who would be favorite for this one now.

Key question.........has Amir Khan beaten anyone as good as former British Champion Carl Johanseberg?

I dont think he has..........name a better fighter if you disagree with me.

Johansberg beat a better version of Michael Gomez than Khan did in better style.

Also Micthell stopped Johansberg.

So I would say Micthell is the more proven fighter here..........despite Khan having looked more impressive on the way up.

Benjiabc
01-21-2009, 08:57 AM
yes I know that will probaly happen...........as does to most Frank ****** fighters

But can he progress beyond that and become a real World Class Operator

Like Naz was WBO Champ for ****** for a long time..........but went on to beat the WBA Champion and win WBC and IBF titles and mix it with the likes of a prime Marco Antonio Barrera

Can Khan go past the WBO and win other World belts and mix it and be competitve with the elite at his weight

on the same level that these fighters have

Lennox Lewis
David Haye
Joe Calzaghe
Ricky Hatton
Naseem Hamed

these are the fighters who have mixed it with the best of their division and proved real world class

Will Khan ever be at this level?

No is the simple answer

PaddyD1983
01-21-2009, 09:07 AM
on the same level that these fighters have

Lennox Lewis
David Haye
Joe Calzaghe
Ricky Hatton
Naseem Hamed

these are the fighters who have mixed it with the best of their division and proved real world class

Will Khan ever be at this level?

Flint, are you trying to reel me in? Get Hamed out of that list immediately. And if we're talking acheivements rather than potential, I'd say Haye does not yet belong there neither. There's an argument given he's the man at cruiser. But lets give him another 3/4 years before bracketing him in with the best 3 British boxers of the last 15-20 years.

But to answer your question, no Khan will never reach the level of those fighters named (including Naz and Haye)

FLINT ISLAND
01-21-2009, 09:15 AM
He was expected to reach that level though with the hype

That list was not some all time great Brits list by the way

It was just modern day fighters who have mixed it with the best of their division and been successful

For that reason both Hamed and Haye belong on the list

PaddyD1983
01-21-2009, 09:16 AM
He was expected to reach that level though with the hype

That list was not some all time great Brits list by the way

It was just modern day fighters who have mixed it with the best of their division and been successful

For that reason both Hamed and Haye belong on the list

Point taken then. Apologies.

My answer remains the same, no Khan wont reach that level.

Grant1
01-21-2009, 09:28 AM
Also most people would have made Khan clear favorite to beat Kevin Mitchell a while back.

Now Khan is exposed as having a glass jaw................while Micthell has proved he has got a real tough jaw.

Khans record has been soiled by a heavy KO loss..........while Micthell remains unbeaten.

I wonder who would be favorite for this one now.

Key question.........has Amir Khan beaten anyone as good as former British Champion Carl Johanseberg?

I dont think he has..........name a better fighter if you disagree with me.

Johansberg beat a better version of Michael Gomez than Khan did in better style.

Also Micthell stopped Johansberg.

So I would say Micthell is the more proven fighter here..........despite Khan having looked more impressive on the way up.

Is Johansberg belonging to Carl Johannson? :lol:

FLINT ISLAND
01-21-2009, 09:34 AM
Is Johansberg belonging to Carl Johannson? :lol:

:lol: :yep :patsch

Bonavena25
01-21-2009, 09:34 AM
Mitchell ain't much cop either, looked very ropey in his last fight in America.

Khan is a strange one, ever since I first saw him fight I thought there's something not right about him. A mechanical, flair boxer. And flair boxers should be fluid and lucid, Khan is stiff and fighting in style that doesn't suit him. He can't fight tall either, always crouching down.

FLINT ISLAND
01-21-2009, 09:36 AM
Mitchell ain't much cop either, looked very ropey in his last fight in America.

Khan is a strange one, ever since I first saw him fight I thought there's something not right about him. A mechanical, flair boxer. And flair boxers should be fluid and lucid, Khan is stiff and fighting in style that doesn't suit him. He can't fight tall either, always crouching down.

:think

Lee Mc
01-21-2009, 09:40 AM
If Khan beats Barrera (emphasis on IF) I honestly believe that he will beat Alex Arthur. Arthur hasn't looked anything special for a while and got out classed by Stephen Foster Jr and then Nicky Cook. OK, he might of had weight issues but there was something else missing, maybe hunger?

Khan needs to operate at 140 because 135 looks like being a tough division for a while yet. However he will never be anything more than an alphabet champion before someone lands a big one on one of the weakest chins I've seen for a while.

Bonavena25
01-21-2009, 10:39 AM
:think

I mean, you can't imagine him doing a shoulder roll can ya? :p

FLINT ISLAND
01-21-2009, 10:54 AM
I mean, you can't imagine him doing a shoulder roll can ya? :p

I agree with you pal

He got that muscular frank bruno type about him..........on a much weedy level

But yeah he is a bit mechincal

Darni187
01-21-2009, 11:43 AM
I think Khan will beat MAB, and then go on later this year to fight for a world title late 2009. Will he win? i dont know, can Khan improve under a world class trainer like F.Roach? yeah a lot. Khan's main problem i feel is not his chin but his mind set, he needs to become more ring smart and think about his next move. Ok if he does have a weak chin than he needs to improve his defence. Does anybody know if Mayweather jr has a glass chin? not really because he protects it the best, Khan needs to learn a bit from Floyd. As Khan gets a bit older, and moves up in weight maybe his chin will improve who knows. Apart from his chin the kid has the tools to go all the way. I think Khan's hand speed can trouble any fighter in the world, even P4P King Pacman.

El Cepillo
01-21-2009, 12:02 PM
I think Khan will eventually win a WBO title and have a decent career. Lower than expectations, but much better than most fighters get.

brown bomber
01-21-2009, 12:17 PM
Profound Jeff.

Doesnt having the fence up your arse hurt?:lol: I've not made my mind up yet.

brown bomber
01-21-2009, 12:21 PM
I think that there can be a strong case made for a Khan victory over Barrera, i've thought about it lots over the last couple of days and I pretty certain Khan will win on points or possibly by stoppage.... unless he walks onto one.

faisal
01-21-2009, 12:56 PM
its hard to write some 1 as young as himself off so soon, i doubt he'll ever be P4P material nor will he unify the division he'll be in some good fights and may have some nice wins against ok/good fighters but he'll never be the golden boy of british boxing we were hoping for, his weaknesses are too strong,

FLINT ISLAND
01-21-2009, 01:04 PM
its hard to write some 1 as young as himself off so soon, i doubt he'll ever be P4P material nor will he unify the division he'll be in some good fights and may have some nice wins against ok/good fighters but he'll never be the golden boy of british boxing we were hoping for, his weaknesses are too strong,

this is it see

the hype around him was so big.............he was already the Golden Boy Of Boxing

He was a millionaire before his first professsional fight !!!!!!!

Meanwhile you got World Champion Pros and Khans Sports Network Stable Mates like Enzo Maccarnelli and Alex Arthur and Gavin Rees............................and they are fighting because they need the money because they got a mortgage to pay.

Meanwhile teenager Khan (who still lives at home with Mummy and Daddy) is still deciding what to get with his pocket money next:

A Ferrari or a Aston Martin?

What Khan has yet to do is fufill the hype............and his own big talk too.

Lets see if he ever gets in the ring with Bedis Presscott again.