Who did everyone hate on here before Amir Khan ?

[zico2010]

Dont really understand the hatred for Khan myself, but has anyone else ever been close to the level ESB-hate that Kahn gets ? :huh

[Beeston Brawler]

Probably Calzaghe - I only been here a year!

or DLH

[brown bomber]

Theres not many people who hate Khan, some might aim critism at him for various reasons though...

[brown bomber]

What football stuff?



U mean the Man u shirt don't you?

[zico2010]

Theres not many people who hate Khan, some might aim critism at him for various reasons though...


Maybe not hate in a literal sense of the word, but constant criticism, some justified but a lot of it personal or fairly petty, along with folk constantly wanting him to get beat or continuing to gloat over a KO 6 months in the past. Im talking that kind of "hating". Ive not been on here that long, has anyone else got it on the same level as Khan ?

[GazOC]

What football stuff?



U mean the Man u shirt don't you?

Yep, he used to enter the ring in a Roy Keane shirt. No way was I going to want him to win after that!!

[zico2010]

I think Khan is getting a bit of grief due to the Naseem Hamed syndrome as they both get compared "flash arrogant and Asian" i don't mind people being like this if they can back it up which clearly they can (don't hide we all know this), as for who did i hate i'd go for Antony Farnell - he should have left all that football stuff in his locker and concentrated on the fight !


But i dont think he is "flaah arrogant and asian", and you certainly couldnt compare him to Naz in that respect.

[LiamE]

Most people dont hate Khan himself... what they hate is the way, like Audrey before him, he was championed as the greatest thing in British boxing before he had done anything at all at a time when we had 5 or more world champs that got less coverage.

TV threw a shed load of money at him for what were obviously going to fights with cans when they could have used that money to showcase a dozen or more guys fighting a British/Euro/Commonwealth level.

They cocked up with Audrey and then they went and did it again, hence the hate.

[brown bomber]

Maybe not hate in a literal sense of the word, but constant criticism, some justified but a lot of it personal or fairly petty, along with folk constantly wanting him to get beat or continuing to gloat over a KO 6 months in the past. Im talking that kind of "hating". Ive not been on here that long, has anyone else got it on the same level as Khan ?I try and constructively critisise him but when you dealing with huggers sometimes the frustration leads you to go overboard. I've been fairly critical of Jon Fewkes, Joe Calzaghe, Manny Pacman and one or two others in the past... I'd probablyf ind things to critisise Ricky Hatton about if I didn't like him but I certainly don't hate them. By been a sportsman you are goin to be critisised no matter how good you are.

[GazOC]

I wouldn't say Khan is arrogant, I think there is an element of him having it easy as a novice/ intermediate pro and not really being appreciative of that.

[brown bomber]

I like Khan, i've met him... he's a phenominal fighter and a nice kid. But as a boxing fan I have to learn to seperate the press releases from the reality... and thats where the critism comes in.

[TFFP]

Why?

People like Mr Plow, and Snowy, if they are not the same person.

[JIM KELLY]

Man when Khan got beat down by Presscott that was it! This forum was flooded with cheers and laughters. It was like Khan was some tyrant or something similar, lol.

[GazOC]

Man when Khan got beat down by Presscott that was it! This forum was flooded with cheers and laughters. It was like Khan was some tyrant or something similar, lol.


:lol: I remember that night!! All 20 odd threads on the first page were full of threads with people made up that Khan had got KO'd.

[izmat]

Man when Khan got beat down by Presscott that was it! This forum was flooded with cheers and laughters. It was like Khan was some tyrant or something similar, lol.

yeah i remember that ...xmas came early for alot of ppl on here !!

[ishy]

:lol: I remember that night!! All 20 odd threads on the first page were full of threads with people made up that Khan had got KO'd.

:lol: Great night on ESB that was.

[GazOC]

:lol: Great night on ESB that was.

Funny thing was I went to the GF and people over there were trying to rub it in, saying all the ESB Brits were really pissed off because their Olympic hero had been beaten. They were being told, "go take a look over on the Brit forum....."

[ishy]

Funny thing was I went to the GF and people over there were trying to rub it in, saying all the ESB Brits were really pissed off because their Olympic hero had been beaten. They were being told, "go take a look over on the Brit forum....."

They thought we actually gave a shit about Khan! :lol::lol:

[LiamE]

:lol: I remember that night!! All 20 odd threads on the first page were full of threads with people made up that Khan had got KO'd.

I think that was every bit as much to do with it being a rip off PPV and there being a bit of poetic justice as anything else.

[Beeston Brawler]

I am not anti-Khan

I simply despise the ridiculous hype and the need for about 250 flunkies blowing smoke up his ass

[ishy]

What's with the recent infestation of Khan fans on ESB recently? Keep signing up and only post in threads relating to Khan.

[Beeston Brawler]

Must be Ikeyboy

[El Cepillo]

I think Khan is getting a bit of grief due to the Naseem Hamed syndrome as they both get compared "flash arrogant and Asian" i don't mind people being like this if they can back it up which clearly they can (don't hide we all know this), as for who did i hate i'd go for Antony Farnell - he should have left all that football stuff in his locker and concentrated on the fight !

Naz's ring entrance for the Bungu fight consisted of a ride on a magic carpet, some specially recorded rap music, a ring walk with P.Diddy, a rant into the microphone about 'Allah Akbar!', and two trainers alternating rounds. Amir Khan can't even compare in the flash stakes :D

[izzy]

khans delusions of granduer and his demented fanboys make people hate him.
if he didnt think he was miles better than he is and his fans werent so scary then people would probably be looking at his good points not the bad.
also the fact he conned half the nation into thinking he was a future champ when all along he had no chin hasnt gone down too well, especially as it made him alot alot of money and he now has nothing to back it up with

[icemax]

I think Khan is getting a bit of grief due to the Naseem Hamed syndrome as they both get compared "flash arrogant and Asian"

No offence mate but this really is one of my pet hates...Khan has ****stani heritage(Asian) whilst Hamed has Yemeni heritage (Arab), nowhere near the same thing :good

[robpalmer135]

i would imagine that calzaghe got a lot of stick. before Khan came along he had 15 or so title defences against allot of poor names.

[SouthpawSlayer]

naz was great khan aint

and snowy is a good laugh

[LiamE]

No offence mate but this really is one of my pet hates...Khan has ****stani heritage(Asian) whilst Hamed has Yemeni heritage (Arab), nowhere near the same thing :good

Last time I checked Yemen was in Asia.

Granted Asia is a fucking big continent with many very diverse peoples, but they both are Asian.

[JonOli]

In relatively recent times - since the Mayweather defeat - Hatton. Khan has soaked up a lot of the hate up though, Ricky gets a relatively easy ride now.

[zico2010]

Last time I checked Yemen was in Asia.

Granted Asia is a fucking big continent with many very diverse peoples, but they both are Asian.


You might as well make lazy comparisons between a portuguese and a norwegian then :patsch

[robster]

Most people dont hate Khan himself... what they hate is the way, like Audrey before him, he was championed as the greatest thing in British boxing before he had done anything at all at a time when we had 5 or more world champs that got less coverage.

TV threw a shed load of money at him for what were obviously going to fights with cans when they could have used that money to showcase a dozen or more guys fighting a British/Euro/Commonwealth level.

They cocked up with Audrey and then they went and did it again, hence the hate.


I am not anti-Khan

I simply despise the ridiculous hype and the need for about 250 flunkies blowing smoke up his ass

What both these guys said.

Please BBBoC, stop the feckin ring invasion by the manager, father, uncle, cousin, kids, babes in arms etc after every Khan fight, it doesn't happen with any other boxer outside of the USA.

[Carlos Primera]

up until a few years ago, it was easily hatton imo. scurla, dunky, you out sucka (betty), healy etc.......:lol:

[KCD]

Hatton probably.

Just as an example you can use his come back fight against Juan Lazcarno, Hatton got slated by alot of people. The thing is alot of the people slating him where the ones who where championung Witter..........and Witters opponent after his loss to Bradley was against an Argentinian who was 29-4 and had never fought outside of Argentina.

But alot of people chose to overlook this.

[9Ball]

I hated that dinosaur bastard from the old chewits advert. Fucking wanker.

No way, he was class, fucking chewits got exactly what they deserved. Overhyped fuckers!!! :D

[Dunky McCafferty]

up until a few years ago, it was easily hatton imo. scurla, dunky, you out sucka (betty), healy etc.......:lol:

Man, you would think with the way some of you were whining about 'Ricky' being so hated on ESB that he had no fans here.

Total mistruth.

The fact of the matter was that before Mayweather beat "our Wicky" there were literally HUNDREDS of Hatton huggers polluting this & every other ESB forum with all their nonsense about how great Ricky the fighter/person was.

The haters you could count on one hand, the huggers on the other hand? Too many too mention. However, once Hatton lost, most disappeared, never to be seen again.
People wonder why I dont have much patience for noobs, but as a vet here of many years it was all those faceless hatton fans amongst other things that drove me to distraction so much that that I pick & choose when & who I post to on here. The Hatton hugging was THAT bad.

So please, when talking about hating, can we be a bit more even handed & mention why the haters were hating so much in the first place? i.e because of the out of hand hatton hugging going on?

I hate seeing people here trying to rewrite history here & trying to paint the picture that Hatton somehow wasnt adored here unlike everywhere else pre Mayweather...
Hatton haters werent the norm here, they were very much the polar opposite.

[GazOC]

There were quite a few vocal Hatton haters on here pre-Mayweather. There was quite the little celebration when the Zoo fight was announced (even though previously to that the line had been that Hatton would never dare fight Zoo as he was scared to death of him) because Hatton was going to get "brutally KTFO" ("brutally" was the 'in' word on ESB around that time). Of course after the fight it was "decided" that Zoo was shot and the ref was a homer, but thats another story......;O)

[Dunky McCafferty]

There were quite a few vocal Hatton haters on here pre-Mayweather. There was quite the little celebration when the Zoo fight was announced (even though previously to that the line had been that Hatton would never dare fight Zoo as he was scared to death of him) because Hatton was going to get "brutally KTFO" ("brutally" was the 'in' word on ESB around that time). Of course after the fight it was "decided" that Zoo was shot and the ref was a homer, but thats another story......;O)

Dont know if you are referring to anything I might/might not have said Gazza, but I will answer back anyway, even if your verbal volley was aimed at some other poor soul/hater.

Before I do answer though may I just congratulate you & every other Hatton fan hanging around on your 'jammyness' i.e. Ricky gets two shots at greatness, & on his terms! Looks like lightning does strike twice if you are a hatton fan, & so on & so forth.

Anyway, about that infamous Tszyu fight. You never stop learning as a boxing fan, & that particular fight tought me many things.
It tought me to never rule out anything that goes on in a Hatton fight in England!
Tszyu IMO would have won that fight if it wasnt for inept reffing from a certain Dave Parris, I mean lets face it, Kostya had Hatton down for the count with a legit bodyshot, but ruled it a 'low blow' & the rest as they say is history. Parris let Ricky assault Kostyas bollocks without as much as points deduction, Ricky told the world 'its not a tickling contest you know' & all was swept under the carpet as a hurt Tszyu simply gave up, & retired.

IMO Hatton was "brutally" knocked out as was the 'in thing' to say at the time according to the book of Gaz, but thank for for Dave Parris, standing up to be counted when it mattered;)

Still makes me sick to this day that does, the way Kostya was treated.

But hey, what do I know?

[GazOC]

Nah. I didn' mean you in particular Dunky. This may disappoint you but you were FAR from the 'worst' hater and at least used to sprinkle a little humour and knowledge in with the hating...;O)

The low blows are (were?) on YouTube, Hatton hit Zoo in the nuts after Paris had done nothing to stop Zoo hitting Hatton there. I'd like to believe that people were genuinely upset/ outraged how Zoo was treated but I think most of the haters were just gutted that a fight they were convinced (and praying!!!) would end the first time Zoo timed Hatton coming in with right hand ended up with Hatton winning.

I remember getting shit for even buying the tickets FFS, "the fight will be cancelled, Hatton will pull out", "Zoo KO1" and all that. I guess those guys HAD to come up with something after Hatton won.....:D

[Healy]

I hate Hatton because someone has to go against the grain. His style is annoying, punch punch hold hold grapple punch hold, fucking Ruiz type shit. Got away with rough tactics for YEARS and thats ok, but its fucking fucking then to hear 'Floyd was using his elbows':lol:...fucking right he was, either that or get them and a headbutt too maybe.

Great moment in boxing history when Mayweather hammered him

As i say, his style pisses me off, i think he is a holder, he has an average chin and limited boxing ability.

Then his persona out of the ring....dont get me started on that

All in all i dont like him, saw through him after initially being a fan

Dont like Khan or Harrision

Always liked Danny Williams, Jamie Moore, Michael Gomez, Matt Macklin, Kevin Mitchell and many other UK or half UK fighters

[Healy]

Dunky, its good to see you about

Pacman on the 2nd of May yes??:D

["TKO"]

Hatton probably.

Just as an example you can use his come back fight against Juan Lazcarno, Hatton got slated by alot of people. The thing is alot of the people slating him where the ones who where championung Witter..........and Witters opponent after his loss to Bradley was against an Argentinian who was 29-4 and had never fought outside of Argentina.

But alot of people chose to overlook this.

Agreed. The funny thing was, Witter himself was one of those slating Lazcano, who at least was a top 10 contender. The funny thing is that Lazcano had just basically gone even with the guy (Harris) who is Witter's signature win. Then he goes and comes back against this guy. Hello Mr kettle, I'm pot...

["TKO"]

Dont know if you are referring to anything I might/might not have said Gazza, but I will answer back anyway, even if your verbal volley was aimed at some other poor soul/hater.

Before I do answer though may I just congratulate you & every other Hatton fan hanging around on your 'jammyness' i.e. Ricky gets two shots at greatness, & on his terms! Looks like lightning does strike twice if you are a hatton fan, & so on & so forth.

Anyway, about that infamous Tszyu fight. You never stop learning as a boxing fan, & that particular fight tought me many things.
It tought me to never rule out anything that goes on in a Hatton fight in England!
Tszyu IMO would have won that fight if it wasnt for inept reffing from a certain Dave Parris, I mean lets face it, Kostya had Hatton down for the count with a legit bodyshot, but ruled it a 'low blow' & the rest as they say is history. Parris let Ricky assault Kostyas bollocks without as much as points deduction, Ricky told the world 'its not a tickling contest you know' & all was swept under the carpet as a hurt Tszyu simply gave up, & retired.

IMO Hatton was "brutally" knocked out as was the 'in thing' to say at the time according to the book of Gaz, but thank for for Dave Parris, standing up to be counted when it mattered;)

Still makes me sick to this day that does, the way Kostya was treated.

But hey, what do I know?

Tell us about the way Alex Arthur was treated by all those nasty Englanders as well Dunky ;)

["TKO"]

Nah. I didn' mean you in particular Dunky. This may disappoint you but you were FAR from the 'worst' hater and at least used to sprinkle a little humour and knowledge in with the hating...;O)

The low blows are (were?) on YouTube, Hatton hit Zoo in the nuts after Paris had done nothing to stop Zoo hitting Hatton there. I'd like to believe that people were genuinely upset/ outraged how Zoo was treated but I think most of the haters were just gutted that a fight they were convinced (and praying!!!) would end the first time Zoo timed Hatton coming in with right hand ended up with Hatton winning.

I remember getting shit for even buying the tickets FFS, "the fight will be cancelled, Hatton will pull out", "Zoo KO1" and all that. I guess those guys HAD to come up with something after Hatton won.....:D

Says it all in a nutshell!

[Guy]

I hate Hatton because someone has to go against the grain. His style is annoying, punch punch hold hold grapple punch hold, fucking Ruiz type shit. Got away with rough tactics for YEARS and thats ok, but its fucking fucking then to hear 'Floyd was using his elbows':lol:...fucking right he was, either that or get them and a headbutt too maybe.

Great moment in boxing history when Mayweather hammered him

As i say, his style pisses me off, i think he is a holder, he has an average chin and limited boxing ability.

Then his persona out of the ring....dont get me started on that

All in all i dont like him, saw through him after initially being a fan

Dont like Khan or Harrision

Always liked Danny Williams, Jamie Moore, Michael Gomez, Matt Macklin, Kevin Mitchell and many other UK or half UK fighters


Good job you added the 'not so famous' english fighters on the end I was starting to feel paranoid.....

[Guy]

Dont know if you are referring to anything I might/might not have said Gazza, but I will answer back anyway, even if your verbal volley was aimed at some other poor soul/hater.

Before I do answer though may I just congratulate you & every other Hatton fan hanging around on your 'jammyness' i.e. Ricky gets two shots at greatness, & on his terms! Looks like lightning does strike twice if you are a hatton fan, & so on & so forth.

Anyway, about that infamous Tszyu fight. You never stop learning as a boxing fan, & that particular fight tought me many things.
It tought me to never rule out anything that goes on in a Hatton fight in England!
Tszyu IMO would have won that fight if it wasnt for inept reffing from a certain Dave Parris, I mean lets face it, Kostya had Hatton down for the count with a legit bodyshot, but ruled it a 'low blow' & the rest as they say is history. Parris let Ricky assault Kostyas bollocks without as much as points deduction, Ricky told the world 'its not a tickling contest you know' & all was swept under the carpet as a hurt Tszyu simply gave up, & retired.

IMO Hatton was "brutally" knocked out as was the 'in thing' to say at the time according to the book of Gaz, but thank for for Dave Parris, standing up to be counted when it mattered;)

Still makes me sick to this day that does, the way Kostya was treated.

But hey, what do I know?

I must have missed that....I was sure Hatton beat Kostya up and retired him


A scottish (Not British!) man and an irish man who hate a succesful englishmen what a surprise.........

[GazOC]

Great moment in boxing history when Mayweather hammered him



Doesn't say much about your knowledge of boxing history mate....;)

[TFFP]

I must have missed that....I was sure Hatton beat Kostya up and retired him


A scottish (Not British!) man and an irish man who hate a succesful englishmen what a surprise.........
Yeah he did, in combination with Parris.

The guy was a joke that night, just like the other joke that reffed Hatton/Lazcano. It's no coincidence he always seems to get the rub of the green with favourable reffing in England.

[Healy]

Doesn't say much about your knowledge of boxing history mate....;)
I couldnt give a monkeys, when im 60-70 il say i saw a great fighter in PBF destroy and pick apart the overhyped fighter by the fans, media and everyone in general.

Dont be bitter, it may not be Hagler Hearns or Ali Foreman but it was sweet

:D;)

[GazOC]

Neither ref changed the outcome of either fight. Both instances are just one of those little things that haters like to hold onto and bring up every now and again.....and each time the story is slightly more exaggerated than the last.

Against Zoo, Hatton executed the gameplan that he had to to win, and that was to get in close to nulify the right hand, bully Zoo and make him work 3 minutes of every round. It was a gameplan that a lot of people said would get him knocked out early as Zoo caught him coming in with a right cross and when this was proved wrong, the ref gets the blame.....

As for the Lascano fight, thats just one of myths thats been repeated so often then people who havn't even seen the fight are convinced its true (the JC-Hopkins decision is getting the same treatment).

Its very telling that for all the whinging on here about both fights, neither Zoo nor Lazcano (or their corners) made any complaints, either at the time or since then, about the reffing of the fights.

[GazOC]

I couldnt give a monkeys, when im 60-70 il say i saw a great fighter in PBF destroy and pick apart the overhyped fighter by the fans, media and everyone in general.

Dont be bitter, it may not be Hagler Hearns or Ali Foreman but it was sweet

:D;)


I'm not bitter, that loss is no disgrace and Hatton has had a pretty good career regardless.

I know you used to be a Hatton fan, then came on here and decided to run with the "cool kids" instead. At least I've made my own mind up on the subject rather than decide to dislike a boxer because you think it gives you some kind of "credibility"....:p

[widdy]

Yeah he did, in combination with Parris.

The guy was a joke that night, just like the other joke that reffed Hatton/Lazcano. It's no coincidence he always seems to get the rub of the green with favourable reffing in England.

i know parris is a right wanker,imagine,letting kyosta hit hatton in the nuts umteen times,dropping him for 5 mins,then not classing it as a body shot,wot a wanker,then hatton hitting kyosta in the nuts and then kyosta retiring a few rounds later,if i was parris,i would of held zoo's hand up and fucked hatton off,the cheating english manc twat.
makes me proud to be a english man

[TFFP]

I don't know what the hell that last post is, so I'm going to discount it.

I personally loved the way Hatton would look to the ref while in a clinch as if to direct him. The only people that don't seem to question these refs are Hatton fans. The international community are always suspicious of these fights, it was pure bullshit.

[Healy]

I'm not bitter, that loss is no disgrace and Hatton has had a pretty good career regardless.

I know you used to be a Hatton fan, then came on here and decided to run with the "cool kids" instead. At least I've made my own mind up on the subject....:p
Are you joking, the cool kids or majority here shout for Hatton, id say im in at 10% minority, especially on the British forum

Having a laugh?

[Healy]

rather than decide to dislike a boxer because you think it gives you some kind of "credibility"....:p
would ya go away and shit:lol:

["TKO"]

Yeah he did, in combination with Parris.

The guy was a joke that night, just like the other joke that reffed Hatton/Lazcano. It's no coincidence he always seems to get the rub of the green with favourable reffing in England.

It's no coincidence because you're imagining it! Any excuse, anything out of the ordinary to somehow twist into a "benefit" for Hatton isn't it ;-)

["TKO"]

I'm not bitter, that loss is no disgrace and Hatton has had a pretty good career regardless.

I know you used to be a Hatton fan, then came on here and decided to run with the "cool kids" instead. At least I've made my own mind up on the subject rather than decide to dislike a boxer because you think it gives you some kind of "credibility"....:p

Brings to mind the popularity of another successful Mancunian export, Oasis, back in the "Definitely Maybe" days! As soon as they became mainstream, selling out arenas and millions of albums half of their original fans decided they were now "too cool" to be a fan. Same principle applies.

[TFFP]

It's no coincidence because you're imagining it! Any excuse, anything out of the ordinary to somehow twist into a "benefit" for Hatton isn't it ;-)
I'm imagining a blatant low blow and rabbit punching

Tell me I'm imaginging the CONSTANT holding with not a single point deduction or even warning? Please tell me I am, because it bores me rigid.

Did I imagine when he suddenly needed to tie Hatton's laces at the moment he was trying to grab hold of Lazcano after being hurt?

It's amazing how all of these decisions seem to benefit Hatton and go against his opponent. Quite an amazing turn of events. Law of averages would suggest an opponent might get something that favours him, if there wasn't blatant favouritism that is...

["TKO"]

I'm imagining a blatant low blow and rabbit punching

Tell me I'm imaginging the CONSTANT holding with not a single point deduction or even warning? Please tell me I am, because it bores me rigid.

Did I imagine when he suddenly needed to tie Hatton's laces at the moment he was trying to grab hold of Lazcano after being hurt?

It's amazing how all of these decisions seem to benefit Hatton and go against his opponent. Quite an amazing turn of events. Law of averages would suggest an opponent might get something that favours him, if there wasn't blatant favouritism that is...

Yeah and Hatton got a point deducted for his low blow, whilst Tszyu was not punished for the same thing. It's just meeting fire with fire! Holding ain't against the rules in itself, as someone posted earlier any good trainer will tell his fighter when you're done punching tie him up! As for boring you rigid, if it does then don't watch. Simple as!

As for the laces, it is the referee's job to protect the safety of the fighters so far as a sport such as boxing allows. That means that if a fighter's laces have come undone, just as if their gumshield had come out or their hand wraps come loose, the referee should stop the contest and fix it when there is a break in the action (such as breaking a clinch). Imagine if Hatton had tripped over the lace and done his ankle ala Hopkins v Allen. The ref may have found himself getting sued for millions for failing to do his duties. I'm sure that matters more to him than a few ridiculous conspiracy theories dreamed up by some loons on the internet who have nothing better to do!

I seem to remember you're a Man United fan (could be wrong maybe just a Michael Carrick fan) and if so I'm surprised you can't see that most of this is exactly the same shit they get. Jealousy from haters who just don't like a winner, groundless accusations of the FA being in their pocket, every single decision in their favour being endlessly magnified and blown up by jealous rival fans and the media, whilst the ones which go against them are glossed over like they never happened. The parallel is exact and your post is the equivalent of Rafa's rant!

[Guy]

Whos' gonna' get second place Liverpool or Chelsea.Chelsea i'd say....

[TFFP]

Yeah and Hatton got a point deducted for his low blow, whilst Tszyu was not punished for the same thing. It's just meeting fire with fire! Holding ain't against the rules in itself, as someone posted earlier any good trainer will tell his fighter when you're done punching tie him up! As for boring you rigid, if it does then don't watch. Simple as!

As for the laces, it is the referee's job to protect the safety of the fighters so far as a sport such as boxing allows. That means that if a fighter's laces have come undone, just as if their gumshield had come out or their hand wraps come loose, the referee should stop the contest and fix it when there is a break in the action (such as breaking a clinch). Imagine if Hatton had tripped over the lace and done his ankle ala Hopkins v Allen. The ref may have found himself getting sued for millions for failing to do his duties. I'm sure that matters more to him than a few ridiculous conspiracy theories dreamed up by some loons on the internet who have nothing better to do!

I seem to remember you're a Man United fan (could be wrong maybe just a Michael Carrick fan) and if so I'm surprised you can't see that most of this is exactly the same shit they get. Jealousy from haters who just don't like a winner, groundless accusations of the FA being in their pocket, every single decision in their favour being endlessly magnified and blown up by jealous rival fans and the media, whilst the ones which go against them are glossed over like they never happened. The parallel is exact and your post is the equivalent of Rafa's rant!
I wish the ref was thinking about the "safety of the fighters" when he allows all that rabbit punching in the clinches.

Excessive holding in itself is illegal. Another person that does not understand the rules of boxing. This is why refs, good refs anyway, punish constant and repeated holding in a fight. They do not arbitrarily remove points you know! Holding and hitting as Hatton seems to do is EXTREMELY illegal.

Your analogy is poor. The refs are poor in football and its a tough job. If it was a matter of somebody being successful I'd hate a lot of boxers, but I don't. Reffing a boxing match is much easier, its a shame the English refs can't be consistent with the rules, especially for their homeboy.

[D-MAC]

Here's probably the biggest reason why Khan is "hated":

Khan v Prescott

First we have the build-up: "Khan joins the legends on Sky" (Sky advert, with posters of Lennox,Tyson etc. hanging in the background); taking the piss with that a bit.

Then we have the actual fight itself: Amir Khan (unproven prospect) v Breidis Prescott (unknown Colombian no one had ever heard of before the fight was announced).

Included is the crappy underbill that wasn't much crack.


And all this was:
PPV




He was pretty disliked before this, due to the hypetrain that surrounded him; but, this PPV bollocks pushed a lot of people over the edge.

[Guy]

Sports Networks bill and Sky Sports PPV not Amir Khans!! Again why do you hate him

[D-MAC]

Sports Networks bill and Sky Sports PPV not Amir Khans!! Again why do you hate him

Because he is a Sports Network fighter and he was the headliner in the Sky Sports PPV bill.

Follow the connecting cords here and you will attain enlightenment:good


Its not that I dislike the "person" Amir Khan (I actually do a bit, but I dislike a lot of boxer's personalites), its that I dislike the "entity" Amir Khan. Think about it; there are plenty of cocks in the boxing world (too many), but they don't get the flack Amir gets. Its the whole hype bollocks around him combined with the laughable PPV.

If I was going to get personal I would say that cocky, arrogant boxers should have to earn the right to be cocky and arrogant. PBF can come across this way, but I don't mind that because he earned that right and backed up the majority of his boasts in the ring. Khan hasn't; therefore he is an open target.

[Guy]

Because he is a Sports Network fighter and he was the headliner in the Sky Sports PPV bill.

Follow the connecting cords here and you will attain enlightenment:good


Its not that I dislike the "person" Amir Khan (I actually do a bit, but I dislike a lot of boxer's personalites), its that I dislike the "entity" Amir Khan. Think about it; there are plenty of cocks in the boxing world (too many), but they don't get the flack Amir gets. Its the whole hype bollocks around him combined with the laughable PPV.

It Doesn't mean that he decides that his fight is PPV i'm sure he's told that by his management and I doubt you would object when told it is PPV ...

["TKO"]

Here's probably the biggest reason why Khan is "hated":

Khan v Prescott

First we have the build-up: "Khan joins the legends on Sky" (Sky advert, with posters of Lennox,Tyson etc. hanging in the background); taking the piss with that a bit.

Then we have the actual fight itself: Amir Khan (unproven prospect) v Breidis Prescott (unknown Colombian no one had ever heard of before the fight was announced).

Included is the crappy underbill that wasn't much crack.


And all this was:
PPV




He was pretty disliked before this, due to the hypetrain that surrounded him; but, this PPV bollocks pushed a lot of people over the edge.

I wouldn't say I hate Khan but I wasn't exactly sorry to see him get banjoed and the reason behind this is that he seems already to be too full of himself. I have heard a few stories about him that I am not too impressed with. Plus there's the dangerous driving in his flash car! I'm not usually one for the lazy tabloid Khan-Hamed comparisons but this one is appropriate!

["TKO"]

I wish the ref was thinking about the "safety of the fighters" when he allows all that rabbit punching in the clinches.

Excessive holding in itself is illegal. Another person that does not understand the rules of boxing. This is why refs, good refs anyway, punish constant and repeated holding in a fight. They do not arbitrarily remove points you know! Holding and hitting as Hatton seems to do is EXTREMELY illegal.

Your analogy is poor. The refs are poor in football and its a tough job. If it was a matter of somebody being successful I'd hate a lot of boxers, but I don't. Reffing a boxing match is much easier, its a shame the English refs can't be consistent with the rules, especially for their homeboy.

Too reasonable a response, well done for not taking the bait ;)

["TKO"]

Whos' gonna' get second place Liverpool or Chelsea.Chelsea i'd say....

Hope so, if we can't win it, I wouldn't mind them doing so, anyone except the mickies!

[TFFP]

United are brilliantly placed considering they've only just been spluttering through games and not getting the best out of Carrick and Berba.

5 points clear if they beat Everton at home.

Then a win win situation Liverpool-Chelsea. They could be 4 points clear of both with a game in hand with a draw, or if one loses they are out of the title race in reality.

[D-MAC]

It Doesn't mean that he decides that his fight is PPV i'm sure he's told that by his management and I doubt you would object when told it is PPV ...

See paragraph pointing out the difference between "person" and "entity".:deal


Also, check out TKO's post (no 67) for some of the personal stuff, if that is what you are looking for.

["TKO"]

See paragraph pointing out the difference between "person" and "entity".:deal


Also, check out TKO's post (no 67) for some of the personal stuff, if that is what you are looking for.

I was referring to a couple of stories I have heard about Khan giving it the old Big Time Charlie routine and basically being a bit of an arrogant prat. Nothing particularly interesting, just fairly typical of a guy letting his name and success go to his head. Not sure I can repeat them on the Board but PM me if you want to know.

["TKO"]

United are brilliantly placed considering they've only just been spluttering through games and not getting the best out of Carrick and Berba.

5 points clear if they beat Everton at home.

Then a win win situation Liverpool-Chelsea. They could be 4 points clear of both with a game in hand with a draw, or if one loses they are out of the title race in reality.

Carrick has been very good since he joined, it's only those know-noughts who think that because he doesn't fly past six players like Ronaldo or hit 30 yard screamers like jailbird, erm.. I mean Stevie G he isn't playing well. Anyone who has watched United much over the past two years knows that his passing, movement, vision and reading of the game is important to keeping our midfield ticking over.

I always said I'd be happy if we were still in touch in the league in January bearing in mind the tough opening fixture list and the world club championship, well it's the end of Janary and we're top with a game in hand!

Go on Chelsea, finish the scouse title bid for good!

[SteelTownCobra]

Personally, I'd have to with Kerry Katona. ****ing hate that talentless ****.

Famous for once upon a time being 'the one with fake breasts who didn't actually sing' in a crap girl band. Then famous for winning a reality tv show for z-list, non-entity celebrities. Now famous for being famous, living beyond her means, and having serious physical and mental health problems in the full glare of, and funded by, trashy gossip magazines and appallingly bad (so I hear) fly-on-the-wall tv shows.

...and for the record I don't hate Amir Khan. He still has the potential to become a very good world level fighter for years to come. Hopefully he stays with Freddie Roach to learn a few new ricks and tighten up that defence, and hopefully he ditches the ******/Sky Box Office nonsense as soon as he can.

[Guy]

I have a good Kerry Katona video on my phone showing her talents off, it doesn't last for long......

[widdy]

I don't know what the hell that last post is, so I'm going to discount it.

I personally loved the way Hatton would look to the ref while in a clinch as if to direct him. The only people that don't seem to question these refs are Hatton fans. The international community are always suspicious of these fights, it was pure bullshit.

want to know what my post means TFFP,its total bollocks just like all your hatton posts.
have you been in a ring and fought someone,you are a fucking moron for thinking its a kids scrap,rabbit punching this,hitting below the belt that.
what do you want them to do,get in the ring 'put your dukes up old bean,but watch the nose,oh and ive just had the hair done,so be carefull'

you say you know,in fact all the haters say you all know everything about boxing,hatton haters being the worst.
personaly to me hattons style is spot on,aggresion,body punching to drop the hands,so what if one strays,moving his head and body and feet togeather,have you tried it,have a go when you out of your office,its fucking hard,total co-ordination,only the best can do it,and hatton is up there with the best

personaly about khan, he was made for the am's,not pro's,i don't hate him,he is good,but no where near good enough,or aggresive enough to beat the top hard punching,boxers.
a lot of pro's don't have much am experiance,maybe,30 40 fights,and no international fights,so don't get into the straight 1 -2, stand up, point scoring punching,khan went to the top and is still stuck there:bbb
international level am's like khan get to upright,and thats where khan go's wrong,streight punching,with chin up

[widdy]

god im a shit at spelling

[Guy]

I'd actually like to have a box but i'm gettin' too old 33 , probably not as durable.
I'd probably get my nose rearranged by some young pup

[TFFP]

want to know what my post means TFFP,its total bollocks just like all your hatton posts.
have you been in a ring and fought someone,you are a fucking moron for thinking its a kids scrap,rabbit punching this,hitting below the belt that.
what do you want them to do,get in the ring 'put your dukes up old bean,but watch the nose,oh and ive just had the hair done,so be carefull'

you say you know,in fact all the haters say you all know everything about boxing,hatton haters being the worst.
personaly to me hattons style is spot on,aggresion,body punching to drop the hands,so what if one strays,moving his head and body and feet togeather,have you tried it,have a go when you out of your office,its fucking hard,total co-ordination,only the best can do it,and hatton is up there with the best

personaly about khan, he was made for the am's,not pro's,i don't hate him,he is good,but no where near good enough,or aggresive enough to beat the top hard punching,boxers.
a lot of pro's don't have much am experiance,maybe,30 40 fights,and no international fights,so don't get into the straight 1 -2, stand up, point scoring punching,khan went to the top and is still stuck there:bbb
international level am's like khan get to upright,and thats where khan go's wrong,streight punching,with chin up
Got it :good

[widdy]

I'd actually like to have a box but i'm gettin' too old 33 , probably not as durable.
I'd probably get my nose rearranged by some young pup

33 not to old mate,im 39 and sometimes go down my old boxing gym to spar(hated bag work,loved sparring and pad work )
have to keep resonably sharp so if the daughter brings home a boyfreind and he gets cheeky,i can dig him in the gut,so not to mark him up u know:hey:bbb

[9Ball]

33 not to old mate,im 39 and sometimes go down my old boxing gym to spar(hated bag work,loved sparring and pad work )
have to keep resonably sharp so if the daughter brings home a boyfreind and he gets cheeky,i can dig him in the gut,so not to mark him up u know:hey:bbb

When dealing with my daughters 'friends' I use the tried and tested 'towel wrapped round my fist' deal. You can punch them full in the face and not worry about marking them up. :good

[widdy]

When dealing with my daughters 'friends' I use the tried and tested 'towel wrapped round my fist' deal. You can punch them full in the face and not worry about marking them up. :good

ah,the old policemans trick,forgot about that,cheers:good

[9Ball]

Or another one I use is the 'silent' treatment. Just stare at them for ages and don't change your facial expression, then turn around and walk away and laugh just loud enough for them to hear. They shite themselves :scaredas:

[draw99]

Its the British way, its what we do - we build em up, then we knock em down.

Wouldnt have it any other way! :D

[widdy]

god i need patience,id end up cracking up,maybe i need some of that yorkshire grit,i just go bright red and get reight mad:twisted:

[Dunky McCafferty]

Dunky, its good to see you about

Pacman on the 2nd of May yes??:D

Cheers Healy:good

& in answer to your question, yes!

Pacs in & out style will frustrate Hatton, & sadly for Ricky Manny wont mess around like Floyd did.
Pac to win in 4.

[Guy]

33 not to old mate,im 39 and sometimes go down my old boxing gym to spar(hated bag work,loved sparring and pad work )
have to keep resonably sharp so if the daughter brings home a boyfreind and he gets cheeky,i can dig him in the gut,so not to mark him up u know:hey:bbb


Lol nice one, it sounds like you've thought about the boyfriend intimidation thing.I've not had to yet my daughters three, sons seven.Just moved down the south west from london so don't even know of any boxing gyms I imagine the sparrings fun

[Guy]

Round Four?!! Yer off ya fuckin head son!
If the munchkin wins in four Hatton may as well hang 'em up....

[izmat]

How tall is Pacman/Hatton?
Is there really that much size difference?

[Guy]

Betty Swollocks....

["TKO"]

Betty Swollocks....

No, they still do!

[widdy]

Lol nice one, it sounds like you've thought about the boyfriend intimidation thing.I've not had to yet my daughters three, sons seven.Just moved down the south west from london so don't even know of any boxing gyms I imagine the sparrings fun

sparings the best bit,u spar diffrent styles all night,sluggers,runners,boxer movers,naz wannabes,all styles,and it great pratice for when you get in the ring,cos am's at club level mostly weigh in on the night and get matched up,with someone with same weight(not always)and experiance(not always).

[Guy]

It does sound fun mate, i've just moved to from london down to the south west so it's a fair bit quieter round ere.
I might discover one though ..

[Dunky McCafferty]

Round Four?!! Yer off ya fuckin head son!
If the munchkin wins in four Hatton may as well hang 'em up....

Power thrills, but speed kills.

Trouble for Ricky though is that Manny has thrilling power & killer speed. hes also trained by the best, its gonna be a walkover. & Im not saying that just cos I dont like Ricky, Im just being brutally honest.

Hatton is too slow & predictable to trouble Pac, its going to take more than mauling tactics to beat Manny. Look at Floyd, hes the best, BUT his weakness is that he has no power. He still KO'd Hatton. Manny has chilling power, & like fine wine is getting better with age.

Pac only took this fight on Hattons terms cos its an easy payday. Trust me. Pac will obliterate Hatton.
However, like I said about Floyd before, there is no shame in losing to the best. & when Ricky loses to Pac? He can still retire with his head held high. He can retire saying only the very best managed to beat him.

[GazOC]

I don't agree that pac has shown any great power over 130 Dunky. Diaz was hit with punch after punch after punch before he was stopped and Oscar was more outsped and outboxed than hurt. Thats not to say I think Pac has no power at 140 just he hasn't shown anything at all exceptional in that department yet.

[TFFP]

Power thrills, but speed kills.

Trouble for Ricky though is that Manny has thrilling power & killer speed. hes also trained by the best, its gonna be a walkover. & Im not saying that just cos I dont like Ricky, Im just being brutally honest.

Hatton is too slow & predictable to trouble Pac, its going to take more than mauling tactics to beat Manny. Look at Floyd, hes the best, BUT his weakness is that he has no power. He still KO'd Hatton. Manny has chilling power, & like fine wine is getting better with age.

Pac only took this fight on Hattons terms cos its an easy payday. Trust me. Pac will obliterate Hatton.
However, like I said about Floyd before, there is no shame in losing to the best. & when Ricky loses to Pac? He can still retire with his head held high. He can retire saying only the very best managed to beat him.
Fine post.

I agree, Pac is going to destroy him in every aspect. However his fans should not be downbeat about this, they should embrace it and realise he had a good career.

[GazOC]

Fine post.

I agree, Pac is going to destroy him in every aspect. However his fans should not be downbeat about this, they should embrace it and realise he had a good career.


I knew you'd come round in the end.:good

[TFFP]

I always said he had a good career and he's a good fighter, you must have missed it :hey

These loons have to be kept in check, it may seem like negativity, but in the long term I am doing them a favour as they will not be heartbroken when the inevitable happens. The little Chinese man wins this one, big.

[GazOC]

Yep, I guess I missed it......

[BIG WORM]

TFFP your gay son, why you got a picture of david ginola... u think hes handsome

you picked malignaggi to beat hatton, you'd pick anyone against hatton, hattons gonna smash the little midget in half

[rooq]

TFFP your gay son, why you got a picture of david ginola... u think hes handsome

you picked malignaggi to beat hatton, you'd pick anyone against hatton, hattons gonna smash the little midget in half

this is surely a bad sign for hatton-ites

[GazOC]

this is surely a bad sign for hatton-ites

Yep, that post had me more than a little troubled. I'm hoping he changes his mind nearer fight night...;O)

[BIG WORM]

Yep, that post had me more than a little troubled. I'm hoping he changes his mind nearer fight night...;O)

i thought you had hatton walking him down

[TFFP]

TFFP your gay son, why you got a picture of david ginola... u think hes handsome

you picked malignaggi to beat hatton, you'd pick anyone against hatton, hattons gonna smash the little midget in half
I think you are talking about Betty, mate. I don't know why people confuse us.

I picked Hatton. After some deliberating I had a moment of clarity.

P.S. It's not Ginola ya daft cunt

[Dunky McCafferty]

I don't agree that pac has shown any great power over 130 Dunky. Diaz was hit with punch after punch after punch before he was stopped and Oscar was more outsped and outboxed than hurt. Thats not to say I think Pac has no power at 140 just he hasn't shown anything at all exceptional in that department yet.

You gotta remember though Gaz, manny is stopping world level guys, whilst hes moving up. No easy feat. Never mind world level, he stopped an elite fighter(IMO) in DLH in his last fight, after dishing out a sick beating in the process.

I admire your staunch support of Hatton though, cos you remind me of myself when I was a die hard Scotty fan on here.
& thats the thing. I always said Scotty was capable of beating ANY fighter on his day at 126, EXCEPT Manny Pacquiao. I was always honest enough to admit that even on Scottys best day, Pac would have won. Its in the archive somewhere!!!

So when I say Hatton will lose to Pac? Its not as a hater, but as an analyst. By fuck though you Hatton fans are lucky, I thought I wouldnt have to go through all this again after Floyd sworded the manc, but here I am again, in a position where I will have to bow down if the arrogant manc somehow pulls off the win!

Ricky has a lot to thank his trumpet blowing morris dancing fans for, cos its you lot who have got him into IMO a pretty undeserved second crack at the P4P title...

[GazOC]

i thought you had hatton walking him down

I do, but if your fight predictions are as bad as your eyesight I'd rather you picked Pac...;)

TFFP fancies Berbatov, not Ginola.

[TFFP]

I fancy Berbatov as much as it is possible to fancy a man whilst remaining straight.

Needless to say if I was gay I'd take Berba in a heartbeat.

Poetry in motion.

[Beeston Brawler]

:patsch

[TFFP]

:patsch
You'd love him if you didn't have a thing for short, ginger jocks.

[BIG WORM]

TFFP is the guv'nor

[Beeston Brawler]

You'd love him if you didn't have a thing for short, ginger jocks.

:-(

Nah - don't like footballers with bad attitudes.

[izmat]

TFFP 4 Berbacunt