View Full Version : The Official "I'm staying up" Brit ESB Margo-Mosely thread.
GazOC
01-24-2009, 10:01 PM
So who's staying up and who've you got for the fight?
JonOli
01-24-2009, 10:03 PM
what time is the fight, gaz?
kosaros
01-24-2009, 10:05 PM
I am, currently watching Jonathan Ross
Fight starts at just after three
D-MAC
01-24-2009, 10:05 PM
I'm staying up - wouldn't miss this one live - and am picking Margarito by late stopage.
kosaros
01-24-2009, 10:08 PM
Oh and I pick margo slight chance of stoppage
TAM83
01-24-2009, 10:09 PM
I'll be up and I see this as being the same kind of fight as Cotto vs Margarito, only question is can Mosley survive the later rounds?
If it goes to points I only see Mosley winning for some reason.
bored
01-24-2009, 10:11 PM
Yup, just trying to kill time. Hoping for Mosley to do his thing :D Expect a late Margo TKO though.
GazOC
01-24-2009, 10:15 PM
Bunce has said the main event will be "early", not much after 3am. I'm killing time watching the UFC re-run on Setanta 2.
I think margo will get enough rounds in the bag to win but that 11/2 on Mosely PTS is winking at me.....
BamBam
01-24-2009, 10:16 PM
Margo TKO 8 @ 20/1. Time waits for no man. If Margo lands anywhere near as regularly as Mayorga did early then Mosely will wear down and get stopped after the middle rounds
D-MAC
01-24-2009, 10:23 PM
Bunce has said the main event will be "early", not much after 3am. I'm killing time watching the UFC re-run on Setanta 2.
I think margo will get enough rounds in the bag to win but that 11/2 on Mosely PTS is winking at me.....
If you lay off the LSD it will probably stop doing that.
TAM83
01-24-2009, 10:25 PM
Bunce has said the main event will be "early", not much after 3am. I'm killing time watching the UFC re-run on Setanta 2.
I think margo will get enough rounds in the bag to win but that 11/2 on Mosely PTS is winking at me.....
13/2 in Coral and 6/1 in Paddy Power:yep
GazOC
01-24-2009, 10:25 PM
If you lay off the LSD it will probably stop doing that.
I think Margo will win but that doesn't mean a 11/2 isn't worth a little punt......;)
safe_pa
01-24-2009, 10:26 PM
I'm staying up, the weather here is rough right now though and I get the feeling I will be losing signal around fight time :twisted:
I'm staying up. Hoping for Mosely UD.
D-MAC
01-24-2009, 10:36 PM
I think Margo will win but that doesn't mean a 11/2 isn't worth a little punt......;)
True:good
Ilesey
01-24-2009, 10:42 PM
Glad I checked this thread. I set the alarm for 4am and probably would have missed the whole bastard thing! :patsch
BadJuju83
01-24-2009, 10:43 PM
Im staying up and im picking Margo by TKO around the 10th
SouthpawSlayer
01-24-2009, 10:45 PM
mosley UD boys
3 am cant come quick enough
Count me in at this party.
:party:party:party:party
SouthpawSlayer
01-24-2009, 10:48 PM
mosley all the way, back to the scene of his greatest victory
JIM KELLY
01-24-2009, 10:48 PM
I think margo will stop sugar inside 8.
Count me in at this party.
:party:party:party:party
They showing this in Iceland or are you relying on a stream?
They showing this in Iceland or are you relying on a stream?
TV :good
Axl_Nose
01-24-2009, 10:50 PM
Margarito is gonna bust Mosley up and stop him by 11 .. It takes dynamite power to stop Margarito and Mosley hasnt got it, an '84 Hearns has it but not a 37 year old Shane Mosley
Beatboxer
01-24-2009, 10:52 PM
I'm awake also but don't have access to a TV with setanta on it at the mo!
I'll see it tomorrow at my parents house....so I'll just follow the action here if anyones doing a round for round of course!
Margarito is gonna bust Mosley up and stop him by 11 .. It takes dynamite power to stop Margarito and Mosley hasnt got it, an '84 Hearns has it but not a 37 year old Shane Mosley
I doubt Shane will be looking to stop Margarito. He'll look to get rounds in the bag and get a decision.
SouthpawSlayer
01-24-2009, 10:53 PM
id say you could catch the fight somewhere
Waiting for this hockey to finish on Setanta now.
I think Mosley will look ok for a while, but I expect Margarito's pace to take its toll on the fight eventually unless Shane is MUCH sharper than last time.
I dunno...I feel like Shane could do a much better job against Margarito's style.
I think Mosley will look ok for a while, but I expect Margarito's pace to take its toll on the fight eventually unless Shane is MUCH sharper than last time.
I dunno...I feel like Shane could do a much better job against Margarito's style.
I agree, Margarito is easy to outbox if you can withstand the pressure. Cotto was making him look like a fool for the first 6 rounds.
SouthpawSlayer
01-24-2009, 10:57 PM
this ice hockey is on peno's
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 10:57 PM
Bunce has said the main event will be "early", not much after 3am. I'm killing time watching the UFC re-run on Setanta 2.
I think margo will get enough rounds in the bag to win but that 11/2 on Mosely PTS is winking at me.....
do you feel the urge to buy any 50 cent video games by any chance:think
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 10:58 PM
im goign to the fridge anybody want anything?
im split on the decision......coffee or beer
I agree, Margarito is easy to outbox if you can withstand the pressure. Cotto was making him look like a fool for the first 6 rounds.
I'm sure we'll get a good idea in the first 3 rounds. If Sugar can't make an impression here it won't bode well...:D
safe_pa
01-24-2009, 10:59 PM
im goign to the fridge anybody want anything?
im split on the decision......coffee or beer
Beer me :D
Axl_Nose
01-24-2009, 11:00 PM
I think Mosley will look ok for a while, but I expect Margarito's pace to take its toll on the fight eventually unless Shane is MUCH sharper than last time.
I dunno...I feel like Shane could do a much better job against Margarito's style.
TFFP your 'hoping' that Mosley rediscovers his glory days but it aint gonna happen .. Only a guy with true power can handle Margarito and Shane never had power ..
This is a one way fight, Mosley's only chance is to Ko him in the first 2 rds, after that, its over !!
I'm sure we'll get a good idea in the first 3 rounds. If Sugar can't make an impression here it won't bode well...:D
Don't worry, he's got brother Nazim in his corner :yep.
I'm off to put on the kettle and make myself a cup of coffee......
Ilesey
01-24-2009, 11:01 PM
Here we go.......
SouthpawSlayer
01-24-2009, 11:05 PM
yeah bring it on arena is packed i have a few bags of crisps 5 feet away from my 50 inch, this is the life
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 11:06 PM
Beer me :Dlooking in the fridge i only have these accuired beuty's
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dragon stout
or
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leffe
and a lol to buncy's antics
BamBam
01-24-2009, 11:08 PM
Ha! Margo beat Cotto because he was wounded from the fight with Mosely.
It's a bit like not being able to get the lid off the jar then when someone takes it off you and opens it you tell them they only got it off because you loosened it for them
yeah bring it on arena is packed i have a few bags of crisps 5 feet away from my 50 inch, this is the life
:lol::yep
Shrewd_dude
01-24-2009, 11:08 PM
Come on Sugar, one last time
Who do we want to win?
Personally...nothing would please me more than to see old ass Mosley beat Margarito and put the loons that hopped on board post-Cotto in their place!
JIM KELLY
01-24-2009, 11:10 PM
so is the walk in in 20 mins?
D-MAC
01-24-2009, 11:11 PM
Ha! Margo beat Cotto because he was wounded from the fight with Mosely.
It's a bit like not being able to get the lid off the jar then when someone takes it off you and opens it you tell them they only got it off because you loosened it for them
Yeah, that was some A+ bullshiting from Shane.
safe_pa
01-24-2009, 11:12 PM
The leffe looks tasty :cheers
It's almost time :happy
Ilesey
01-24-2009, 11:12 PM
Who do we want to win?
Personally...nothing would please me more than to see old ass Mosley beat Margarito and put the loons that hopped on board post-Cotto in their place!
Mosley. I like both fighters but I've been a huge Shane fan for years and I hope he can pull it off.......don't think he will though. :deal
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 11:12 PM
Don't worry, he's got brother Nazim in his corner :yep.
nazim is a great trainer so great infact that he cant even speak in 1st person
"it was some good work but i need a good jab i need my jab going"
SouthpawSlayer
01-24-2009, 11:12 PM
yeah thats not what mosley fans wanted to hear, not a good sign
JIM KELLY
01-24-2009, 11:13 PM
oh this is awful, both trying to kill time!!!
lol
SouthpawSlayer
01-24-2009, 11:14 PM
stfu about football ffs
stuey
01-24-2009, 11:14 PM
:tired should have just stayed awake
nazim is a great trainer so great infact that he cant even speak in 1st person
"it was some good work but i need a good jab i need my jab going"
:lol:
Hopefully Mosely pulls this off. Go Sugar :happy:happy:happy.
BamBam
01-24-2009, 11:15 PM
Never liked Mosely myself. Never disliked him either. I hope Margo banjos him tonight though. No idea why though.
JIM KELLY
01-24-2009, 11:15 PM
wtf!!!!!!!!
shane divorcing Jin?? ahahahah
JonOli
01-24-2009, 11:16 PM
6/1 Molsey on points...
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 11:16 PM
you heard it first cotto was wounded by shane!!!
GazOC
01-24-2009, 11:18 PM
:tired should have just stayed awake
Faggot!!!!;)
SouthpawSlayer
01-24-2009, 11:18 PM
i need to be careful how i word this incase we get sued "HE TOOK STEROIDS" damn steve
its really hitting me now that sugar a favourite fighter of mine is gonna get battered
Beatboxer
01-24-2009, 11:18 PM
I'm watching now, very excited.
Should be a classic.
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 11:18 PM
fine leffe it is....anybody else?
i have some mighty fine cigarillos to share?
brother nazim!!!!!! snap that towel like it meant somthing
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 11:19 PM
i need to be careful how i word this incase we get sued "HE TOOK STEROIDS" damn steve
its really hitting me now that sugar a favourite fighter of mine is gonna get battered
nazim should sort him out with his towel
We're already 5 pages up and the fight hasn't even started.
Ilesey
01-24-2009, 11:21 PM
We're already 5 pages up and the fight hasn't even started.
:bump
Ilesey
01-24-2009, 11:22 PM
And we're off......
JIM KELLY
01-24-2009, 11:23 PM
good luck shane!!!
Shrewd_dude
01-24-2009, 11:23 PM
Hope Sugar wins but more so just hopes its a good competitive fight
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 11:23 PM
it's sugartime!!!!!
stuey
01-24-2009, 11:23 PM
:bump
most pointless bump in history:think:D
SouthpawSlayer
01-24-2009, 11:23 PM
here comes shane, same song that malignaggi used against hatton.......he is fucked
safe_pa
01-24-2009, 11:23 PM
Go Shane!
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 11:23 PM
wait wait wait......whats mosley theme tune!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF was Bunce talking about?
This Shane is better than the LW version? :nut
eddiesammon
01-24-2009, 11:24 PM
i really should be sleeping, but decided to get up and wack it on. its starting! great timing!
JIM KELLY
01-24-2009, 11:24 PM
wait..no commentators??
Sugar's dad's in his entourage, he hasn't completely fucked him off.
BamBam
01-24-2009, 11:25 PM
Thats a faggy song to come out to. He should get some Wu Tang clan or something. He needs to be meaner!!!
As Alan Partridge once said 'you're a tiger grrrr'
Buncey has had a shandy or three me thinks
SouthpawSlayer
01-24-2009, 11:25 PM
wait..no commentators??
maybe they are just shutting up for the ring walks
Beatboxer
01-24-2009, 11:27 PM
Come on Margo!
stuey
01-24-2009, 11:27 PM
watch out for them uppercuts sugar......:yep
JIM KELLY
01-24-2009, 11:27 PM
denzel!!!
ac slater !!! lol
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 11:28 PM
thids thread sropped in the british forum...nmo no no no no bump
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 11:29 PM
denzel!!!
ac slater !!! lol
guba cooding :think
SouthpawSlayer
01-24-2009, 11:31 PM
good luck shane
BamBam
01-24-2009, 11:33 PM
THink Mosely knows he needs to do his work early. Is he seriously trying to take him out or am I just that drunk that I'm seeing things
Beatboxer
01-24-2009, 11:33 PM
SM looking good thus far...
but we all know Margo will just keep on coming ha!
SouthpawSlayer
01-24-2009, 11:35 PM
now we are rolling the first body shot hurt margo big time
1st round to Mosely, looked good there.
Beatboxer
01-24-2009, 11:35 PM
R1: 10 - 9 Mosley
D-MAC
01-24-2009, 11:35 PM
Round 1: Mosley 10-9
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 11:35 PM
shane 10-9 good start
GazOC
01-24-2009, 11:36 PM
SSM knows he needs to get the rounds in early to win. He looks sharp though.
BamBam
01-24-2009, 11:37 PM
Margo looks sloooo[Only registered and activated users can see links] Hardly flash gordon at the best of times but he's looking sluggish
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 11:40 PM
both really apologetic.
nice combinaions by osley but more work...scrappy tho
10-9 margo
19-19
BamBam
01-24-2009, 11:40 PM
Mosely is going to lose a point if he keeps that up. He looks good though. If he can keep the intensity up he has every chance. Doubt he will be able to though. He even looked to breath a little bit heavy after rnd 2
stuey
01-24-2009, 11:40 PM
sugar has had a good start:good
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 11:43 PM
oh fuck mosley is roiding again!!!!he is looking fantastic...a few headbutts..6 i counted. but th ecombinations at the end of the 3rd is made it his
Ilesey
01-24-2009, 11:43 PM
Mosley is looking brilliant. You sense that Margo is starting to warm to the task....
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 11:44 PM
10-9 mosley
29-28
GazOC
01-24-2009, 11:45 PM
Moselys slowing down.....
BamBam
01-24-2009, 11:47 PM
Right someone tell me, is it just me or is Mosely starting to blow?
GazOC
01-24-2009, 11:47 PM
Moselys slowing down.....
:lol: Scratch that!!!:patsch
Vantage_West
01-24-2009, 11:47 PM
another mosley round....the crip whistles are doing a charm.
10-9
39-37
:lol: Scratch that!!!:patsch
:lol:
BamBam
01-24-2009, 11:51 PM
50-47
Judges love Mosely, though, and you could easily make an argument for it being a shutout so far so I expect thats what the judges have it
stuey
01-24-2009, 11:52 PM
mosely is starting to slide:deal
Sugar is whooping his overrated ass.
4-1 Mosley!
I've got it 5 rounds to 1 for Mosely now. Margarito's chin still amazes me.
D-MAC
01-24-2009, 11:55 PM
Margarito isn't smiling anymore.
stuey
01-24-2009, 11:55 PM
i take it back second wind:yikes mosely is pissing this so far
Ilesey
01-24-2009, 11:56 PM
I can't believe what I'm watching. Mosley is looking great!
I wish that fucking prick would stop whistling!!!!!!
SouthpawSlayer
01-24-2009, 11:56 PM
margo is getting stopped tonight
GazOC
01-24-2009, 11:56 PM
I have it 4-1-1.
BamBam
01-24-2009, 11:56 PM
When was the last time Mosley looked this good? How many years ago?
SouthpawSlayer
01-24-2009, 11:56 PM
this is why i love sugar shane
GazOC
01-24-2009, 11:57 PM
I think Margo may get stopped....
Hehe...and this isn't even all that surprising.
Margarito is slow as shit, and his defence is awful! :smoke
Not as awkward as Mayorga. This is the same Mosley.
How many more rounds before Margo gets pulled out?
Vantage_West
01-25-2009, 12:00 AM
mosley looke dvery weary in 5 but is coming back strong.
68-65
sounds of tonight. flickflickflcikflc bang whistle whitle
sly vs arnie on the undercard
This is like Cotto/Margarito all over again early. Except the key difference is Mosley protects his body real well, and fights inside well. And Mosley is hitting a lot harder.
king s
01-25-2009, 12:01 AM
i would hate 2 be sittin behind hopkins 4 this fight.the guy is on his feet every 5 seconds
GazOC
01-25-2009, 12:03 AM
Wow!!!
king s
01-25-2009, 12:03 AM
saved by the bell
Hell yeah!!!! Go sugar!!!!
Vantage_West
01-25-2009, 12:03 AM
im having an outer body experience
margo down....buy mosley
Ilesey
01-25-2009, 12:03 AM
Holy shit!
D-MAC
01-25-2009, 12:04 AM
Fuck me!!!!
Margarito knocked over.
stuey
01-25-2009, 12:05 AM
fuck me:yikes
Ilesey
01-25-2009, 12:05 AM
He's done the unthinkable!!!!!
Picked Shane on points but NEVER expected this!
GazOC
01-25-2009, 12:05 AM
Well there goes my 20 quid at 11/2.....
GazOC
01-25-2009, 12:07 AM
That right cross of Mosleys couldn't miss.
stuey
01-25-2009, 12:08 AM
that was simply awesome from sugar shane.....
Vantage_West
01-25-2009, 12:11 AM
mosley = BWAD MAN
SouthpawSlayer
01-25-2009, 12:13 AM
that was bloody great, mosley is a legend
Now at WW: Margarito beat Cotto who beat Mosely who beat Margarito
BamBam
01-25-2009, 12:14 AM
I reckon hes back on the EPO :huh I don't care about being wrong in my opinion about the fight. That was just fucking weird though. Really a bit bizarre
JIM KELLY
01-25-2009, 12:15 AM
Boys, we witnessed something magnificent!!
GazOC
01-25-2009, 12:15 AM
Now at WW: Margarito beat Cotto who beat Mosely who beat Margarito
Styles.....:good
JonOli
01-25-2009, 12:17 AM
damn i got greedy and went for the pts victory instead of just the win
GazOC
01-25-2009, 12:19 AM
I think Margo may get stopped....
Hey Ishy......:p:lol:;)
Hey Ishy......:p:lol:;)
:lol::good
stuey
01-25-2009, 12:21 AM
i am truly stunned.
that was awesome, no other words to describe it...
rolling back the years....
SouthpawSlayer
01-25-2009, 12:25 AM
yeah, unbeievable
the difference between cotto and mosley is mosley was able to smother margo and his boxing brain is what beat margo
What's this on the general forum about Margarito having illegal hand wraps? Didn't matter in the end but still.
D Coldwell
01-25-2009, 12:35 AM
Absolutely amazing perfomance.
The jab was unreal, set up those wicked right hands.
But Mosley's bodyshots also did a hell of a lot to take away Margarito's strength..Shane roughed him up too.
Every department Mosley was great in, no way did i think he could roll back the years like that.
BamBam
01-25-2009, 12:35 AM
Never mind the general forum mongs they probably think Mosley had an illegal cup.
Actually, if you want to get them all in a frenzy start a thread with a poll
Which drug do you thin Mosley used to aid him in his win tonight
1) EPO (again)
2) Equipoise
3) Clenbuterol
4) Stanzolol
5) All of the above
BadJuju83
01-25-2009, 12:52 AM
Woah. Fuckin stunned here.
So much for margo by TKO in the 10th :patsch:oops:
Great performance from Shane.:bbb
JIM KELLY
01-25-2009, 01:23 AM
Tony was open like a motherfukker! He ate all night.
Rebel-INS
01-25-2009, 03:02 AM
What's this on the general forum about Margarito having illegal hand wraps? Didn't matter in the end but still.
Margarito had plaster of Paris on pads inside his wraps, apparently so that when he'd sweat it would harden.
They were removed and it's going to be investigated.
Olu G. Rotimi
01-25-2009, 05:31 AM
Guys I was in Nigeria and watched it live on satellite TV. As per my previous posts on this topic cannot say I was surprised at all. Skill wise there is no comparison and even Margarito and his team thought they could overpower Mosley then dream on. I have never seen anything in Mosley that tells me he can be knocked out. If Vernon Forrest could not stop him in their 1st fight what chance did the limited brawler Margarito who people were thinking was superman have just because he beat Cotto in a fight he should never have won. I have said this before imagine what PBF would have done to Margarito. Margarito is fiction of both he and Bob Arum's imagination. Yeah he is so tough that he cannot be knocked out is he. If Cotto had not neglected the body like Shane did not you would have got the same result. Great boxing performance Sugar Shae Mosley.
brown bomber
01-25-2009, 06:03 AM
Brilliant.... Mosley fought better without the roids then he does with them....
stuey
01-25-2009, 06:15 AM
Brilliant.... Mosley fought better without the roids then he does with them....
ooo! controversy:yep
brown bomber
01-25-2009, 06:18 AM
ooo! controversy:yeplol.... He did look on something though didn't he? He was ripped to the max and i've not seen his stamina holdout so well since De La Hoya 1.... So impressive though... you gotta love mosley seems a real goodguy.
stuey
01-25-2009, 06:21 AM
lol.... He did look on something though didn't he? He was ripped to the max and i've not seen his stamina holdout so well since De La Hoya 1.... So impressive though... you gotta love mosley seems a real goodguy.
he looked like fuckin superman:deal
the way he doubled, trebled up the jab, always followed by the right that could not miss.
everything he threw was spiteful too....
vintage performance.....
brown bomber
01-25-2009, 06:25 AM
he looked like fuckin superman:deal
the way he doubled, trebled up the jab, always followed by the right that could not miss.
everything he threw was spiteful too....
vintage performance.....
Definately, Shane legacy took a steep incline last night... Think he's got too many L's and controversial W's to be a true ATG but he is a pretty tremendous second tier guy. If he were to beat Cotto in a rematch, which he could do I think he would be held in higher esteem. A fight with Pacman too would be very interesting.
stuey
01-25-2009, 06:28 AM
Definately, Shane legacy took a steep incline last night... Think he's got too many L's and controversial W's to be a true ATG but he is a pretty tremendous second tier guy. If he were to beat Cotto in a rematch, which he could do I think he would be held in higher esteem. A fight with Pacman too would be very interesting.
cotto has to get by jenno first;)
Chinny
01-25-2009, 06:28 AM
Shane Mosley = John Connor
About as surprising a result as I can remember. What a performance. Roughed him up. Super sharp rights. That nasty left hook where he really plants his feet (like the finisher v Mayorga). Distance, timing outstanding. Wow. I had Mosley points at 6-1 but when you see a fight as exciting as that who cares about losing out on a bit of cash?
brown bomber
01-25-2009, 06:47 AM
cotto has to get by jenno first;)Saw Mick last night, such a good lad... One or two people, who know the sport a lot better then me fancy him to be a lot more competitive then the generally held 'he's getting a hiding' view. I think he is too susceptable defensively to hooks to make an impression but he may be mobile and clever enough to get through the 12.
Beeston Brawler
01-25-2009, 08:02 AM
WOW slept through my alarm and just watched it now......
bored
01-25-2009, 08:47 AM
What a performance from Shane. I'd been hoping for it all week and he really turned back the years. Did Margo really have plaster in his hands? All my respect for him will have gone if that's true.
D-MAC
01-25-2009, 08:53 AM
I picked this one wrong, but I don't care because it was such a great fight. What a performance from Mosley.
Beeston Brawler
01-25-2009, 09:04 AM
I went for Margo by stoppage on the predictions league......
:verysad
D-MAC
01-25-2009, 09:12 AM
I went for Margo by stoppage on the predictions league......
:verysad
I think I predicted something like this: "I fear for Shane in this fight; the guy takes a punch too well; I can see Margarito walking him down and beating the living shit out of him, with Shane's corner throwing in the towel late on to save their fighter."
If I reverse the fighters names it would actually have been pretty spot on.
Beeston Brawler
01-25-2009, 09:15 AM
I suppose with good reason.
Margarito had destroyed Cotto, who defeated Shane - who then went life and death with a shot to shit Mayorga, who ought to have been softened up by the savage beatings he received from DLH and Trinidad.....
His gameplan was very intelligent, subtly smothering Margo's work on the inside, stopping him throwing 100 shots a round - something Margo admitted himself post fight.
I don't get all the shit on GF about his chin being less than stellar..... most fighters would have been carried out on a stretcher after about 4, eating the leather that he was.
teessider
01-25-2009, 09:43 AM
at work had 4 hours sleep, am fooked now but that was awesome! his chin should not be questioned how the fuck margarito stayed up til he did baffles me, the guys is a beast and can take some punishment. but hat off to shane he was quality. how much credit should go naseem richardson, as the gameplan was perfect
where does this rank in amongst ssm best wins/performances?
D-MAC
01-25-2009, 10:17 AM
Whats all this talk over in the GF about Margarito having "loaded gloves"?
Can anyone fill me in? I just watched the fight and then went to bed. I didn't watch any of the stuff after - what did I miss?
sinner78
01-25-2009, 10:21 AM
margarito got caught with illegal handwraps before the fight.
Pieces of plaster of paris fell out on inspection by moselys trainer.
he has been busted..
Beeston Brawler
01-25-2009, 10:30 AM
Rumours of plaster of paris - it might just be chalk or something else.
For me, they ought to check wraps post fight as well.
D-MAC
01-25-2009, 10:30 AM
margarito got caught with illegal handwraps before the fight.
Pieces of plaster of paris fell out on inspection by moselys trainer.
he has been busted..
Wow! Thats lifetime ban type stuff.
Wow! Thats lifetime ban type stuff.
Yeah, shocking stuff. Also makes you wonder whether his gloves were loaded against Cotto and other previous fights.
To be honest that adds up.
It does not make sense that Margarito has been punching hard. He can't punch correctly. His punch technique is about as good as Calzaghe's except they have no speed. His punches had absolutely no effect on Mosley last night as they have been.
BamBam
01-25-2009, 10:48 AM
I think we need to hold off judgement on the hand wraps until we hear something definitive. Unfortunatley, if its true, it casts a big shadow over the most successful part of Margo's career and basically shoots his credibility to pieces.
I mean lets say it is true. Some people will assume he did this every fight and got away with it up until now. I think thats bullshit myself because there is no way you would get away with it every fight. But you still wouldn't know which fights he had used it and which fights he hadn't.
Anyway, if it was something that hardens into plaster paris then he needs a lifetime ban. You could easily enough kill someone with that kind of carry on. Especially if you are of the quality of Margo. (his actual quality may be overestimated if he has been cheating for years but he would have been handy enough either way)
For me the whole thing puts a big fucking downer on a spectacular fight. And while I know I should be basking in Mosleys spectacular and brilliant display the cynical part of me wonders if a 37 year old who hasn't looked as good in almost 8 years (or maybe ever) could really have been that sharp on his own. Especially when said 37 year old has admitted to taking EPO before (that 'I took it but I didn't know it was a banned substance' bollocks doesn't fly with me. he was a grown man and he's nobodies fool so I don't believe that for a second).
Should have been a great night for the sport but it has left me feeling more than a little deflated
D-MAC
01-25-2009, 10:49 AM
Yeah, shocking stuff. Also makes you wonder whether his gloves were loaded against Cotto and other previous fights.
The Cintron fights as well...Kermit's only defeats.
And what about when Margarito literally punched Lujan's ear off and they had to stop that fight.
No doubt it raises big questions about some of Antonio's previous wins; I'll wait and see what comes out in the next few days before I crucify him totally.
sinner78
01-25-2009, 10:50 AM
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this thread raises question marks on margarito stretching back years.
Many people would bet their left nut that he did the same thing versus cotto.
Beatboxer
01-25-2009, 03:30 PM
To be honest that adds up.
It does not make sense that Margarito has been punching hard. He can't punch correctly. His punch technique is about as good as Calzaghe's except they have no speed. His punches had absolutely no effect on Mosley last night as they have been.
I've often thought he was an enigma in that respect....
Guess we know now though....
Still, I never saw this coming and I'm very disappointed...had alot of respect for Margarito and I genuinely thought that it might be his time now....he's never been the most skilled or refined (to say the least) but I felt with that relentless style up against a seemingly aging Shane Mosley he'd win by wearing SSM down....a war of attrition.
Now it seems that one of his great weapons was taken away, and he seemed largely impotent without it. Not to take away from a great performance by Shane, he rolled back the years and looked fantastic...but this casts alot of doubt over AM's whole career...
SouthpawSlayer
01-25-2009, 06:38 PM
he should be banned for life
JIM KELLY
01-25-2009, 07:19 PM
watched the fight another two times. Spectacular. Lol @ hopkins shouting his lungs off!!
Axl_Nose
01-25-2009, 07:22 PM
I couldnt believe how Mosley rolled back the years and put in a peformance like that after looking fairly average in his last few fights .. I thought we'd see a guy be bullied and dominated by Margarito, fair doos to Shane, that was brilliant, sheer class
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