UFC have serious Competition!!

[chimba]

Excellent Card tonight. Fedor is the sacred cow of MMA now that he is getting unbelievable exposure. His Legend grows. It was worth the money just having Fedor in the Main event, its a spectacle.

Vitor Belfort looked amazing tonight at 185, he looked and fought like a completely different man. A possible foil for UFCs A. Silva (who may decide to jump ship when his contract ends this year)

I enjoyed the production value, the extended post fight interviews. They werent rushing the show at all. Tito, much respect, he did a good job.

Theres money money and lots of money. The Donald, Trump. Atencio is the opposite of Dana White, very professional.

I like the ring, from an audience perspective its great. Fighters might think otherwise

They have some fighters, Barnett, Babalu is looking great. If they can somehow get a couple of fighters like a Cung Le or an Aoki, watch out.

[Polymath]

It was a good card, I really enjoyed it. I disgree slightly though on you Tito comment; I thought he and the whole TV production were really bad. I like Tito though and think he will get better.

[Rock0052]

I hope you're right. More competition is only a good thing, especially for the fighters' wages.

[chimba]

It was a good card, I really enjoyed it. I disgree slightly though on you Tito comment; I thought he and the whole TV production were really bad. I like Tito though and think he will get better.


For a first I think he did well, it also helps that he fought some of the guys he interviewed, there was underlying respect there. He wasnt also shy of criticizing a guy like Sokodjuo about his heart.

They also were much more professional by having the patience interviewing non english speakers. They didnt rush the post fight fighter interviews, Barnett had time to chat with Tito.

I love the locker room with Zito and all. It brings more entertainment to the show. Just the right amount, not overboard. I mean with the UFC, after the main event,its goodnight. Here they have about 30 minutes of interviewing Fedor, showing him taking pictures.

It was the best show of any UFC competition in the US by far. Pride US and Elite isnt the same level. This was very professional I thought and the crowd was really into it. The Belfort KO for example they had 4 different camera angles for the KO and they followed the issue up into the locker room during the Barnett fight.

Compared to what the UFC offered in their Henderson/Franklin main event..This was miles miles better. Its actually embarassing how Dana has taken so many for a ride.

[Kestrel]

I feel Fedor is nearing the end of his career. He seems like he is slowing down. Might be heading downhill. He is still on another level compare to the rest but I wouldn't want him to keep fighting til father time beats him. So if Affliction is betting on Fedor, I hope they start marketing more stars so that once Fedor retires. They will still have goods shows for the fans.

[chimba]

I hope you're right. More competition is only a good thing, especially for the fighters' wages.


This is where they will make a dent on Zuffa an co. In the pre fight press conference. GBP (DLH) already stressed this as a major issue (sideswiping UFC) why they feel they can compete well. By putting the fighters first. BAsically hes saying, more money for fighters. This shouldnt be a problem, With Trump and GBP being co promoters along with M1

[Kestrel]

For a first I think he did well, it also helps that he fought some of the guys he interviewed, there was underlying respect there. He wasnt also shy of criticizing a guy like Sokodjuo about his heart.

They also were much more professional by having the patience interviewing non english speakers. They didnt rush the post fight fighter interviews, Barnett had time to chat with Tito.

I love the locker room with Zito and all. It brings more entertainment to the show. Just the right amount, not overboard. I mean with the UFC, after the main event,its goodnight. Here they have about 30 minutes of interviewing Fedor, showing him taking pictures.

It was the best show of any UFC competition in the US by far. Pride US and Elite isnt the same level. This was very professional I thought and the crowd was really into it. The Belfort KO for example they had 4 different camera angles for the KO and they followed the issue up into the locker room during the Barnett fight.

Compared to what the UFC offered in their Henderson/Franklin main event..This was miles miles better. Its actually embarassing how Dana has taken so many for a ride.

I agree. Affliction did an awesome job and the interviews and followups with fighters brings the fans closer to the fighters. It's not just about what happen in the ring. It added more depth and was great. Hope they keep it like this and bring some more talent and they will rival UFC.

[ufoalf]

Ortiz was pretty newb. With some more experience he can be very much like Lewis was for boxing. That fag at the end with squeeky ass voice has GOT to GO. I'm not even being politically incorrect, he's just plain bad.

[chimba]

I agree. Affliction did an awesome job and the interviews and followups with fighters brings the fans closer to the fighters. It's not just about what happen in the ring. It added more depth and was great. Hope they keep it like this and bring some more talent and they will rival UFC.

If A. Silva for example jumps and guys like Cung and Lawler follows suit. They will cause very big problems for the UFC.

The UFC cannot keep on giving us a Franklin/Henderson main events. They only manage to get away with it because theyre the only game in town. Now with Fedor being this mythical figure..they would be forced to ante up. But with what?? Without Gsp vs Penn/Alves, what do they have?? Jardine vs. Rampage?? as main event?? lol

I was just thinking about Rashad vs. Forrest, it was good but now way I take that over Fedor as a main event for the same $45.

And Dana needs to stops cussing all the time on TV. This guy is so unprofessional, the Fertitas are going to have to call him to a meeting soon.

Think also of the guys unhappy with Dana and the UFC. We know BJs not happy. Silvas gone after this year. Nog, Wandy, Chuck and Randy are done. Be happy hes still got Lesnar, pray that Mir doesnt beat him

[Kairos]

Too bad Affliction will be bankrupt within the year.

[chimba]

Ortiz was pretty newb. With some more experience he can be very much like Lewis was for boxing. That fag at the end with squeeky ass voice has GOT to GO. I'm not even being politically incorrect, he's just plain bad.

:lol: I was wondering, WTF is this!! I agree he shouldnt be there.

As for Tito, this guy is alot more humble than Rogan when he comments, he seriously supports the fighters because hes one. He certainly dresses the part. Its a professional org, theyre trying to portray it that way because the UFC is not, its Dana. With GBP, The Donald and some Russian KGBs there, they better be serious

[chimba]

Too bad Affliction will be bankrupt within the year.


Affliction with Trump and GBP makes the Fertitas look silly when moneys concerned

[bulakenyo]

I liked the card a lot.

I was kinda rooting for Arlovski to have a great night, 'cause Freddie Roach trained him on his stand up boxing techniques. He was fighting pretty good, but he got too careless.

The Lindland KO was a bit scary.

Good performances from everyone.

Great night of fighting. (boxing and MMA)

[bulakenyo]

Tito Ortiz and that other bald commentator guy sound the same too much.

And their interview guy sounded like Harvey Fierstein.

[Spunik]

I missed the Fedor fight :-(....Tito's head got in the way :(

[ufoalf]

Oh yea... Lindland KO. Man... I was really worried there. I always wondered just how bad a KO can be. This is as bad as I've ever seen it. He was literally out in a dream world for 5 minutes trying to wrestle people. Thats YEARS of fighting lol. The brain is shut down but the body keeps fighting.

[enzo]

the other commentator sound like joe rogan. LOL


the crowd booed tito too!

[Mike T]

Have some of you youngsters watched the old-school UFC?

[bulakenyo]

Have some of you youngsters watched the old-school UFC?

Yes, why?

[LB3000]

If they want to compete with the UFC they better start making money.

[scurlaruntings]

If they want to compete with the UFC they better start making money.They dont need to they have Donald Trump :yep

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

They dont need to they have Donald Trump :yep
As well as Golden Boy Promotions backing them.

I really hope that Affliction stays around because it is always great to have competition. However... I REALLY want to see the resurgent Belfort against Anderson Silva, and Lesnar vs Fedor..... REALLY bad.

[scurlaruntings]

As well as Golden Boy Promotions backing them.

I really hope that Affliction stays around because it is always great to have competition. However... I REALLY want to see the resurgent Belfort against Anderson Silva, and Lesnar vs Fedor..... REALLY bad.DLH was present at the event. Looks like Oscar loves the mighty dollar and is becomign a very shrewd businessman. That being said the UFC does what is best for its organisation. Im sure Affliction would be willing to cross promote but the UFC wont and thus the fans are robbed. Matters not as if Affliction can become the equivalent to PRIDE in the West fans will take note. The world knows about Fedor now.

[Dostoevsky]

Oh please! Affliction will be out of business within 6 months! :lol:
They're practically already out of money.

[sugarngold]

As long as Fedor keeps winning - Affliction will be around.

[Dostoevsky]

As long as Fedor keeps winning - Affliction will be around.

Like Bodog, M1 Global and Pride huh?

[sugarngold]

Yeah - because Golden Boy, Affliction and Trump were backing all those promotions as well.

[AJAX]

Yeah - because Golden Boy, Affliction and Trump were backing all those promotions as well.

And do you think Donald Trump is in the business of losing money?? They still have the same core of fighters they will recycle every show. And when is their next show? It's hard to compete with the UFC if they only have shows every 6 months. Hopefully they survive I bought the ppv and thought there was some great fights.

[chimba]

As long as Fedor keeps winning - Affliction will be around.


This pretty much sums it up. Especially after last night.

What happened was millions saw what this guy Fedor did to the former UFC Heavyweight Champion. Casual fans now are going to ask, who else has Fedor beaten? Then they will say that he destroyed Tim Sylvia too, another former UFC HW champ in 38 seconds...The legend grows, the public wants more. Fedor > UFC no two ways around it

As for Affliction running out of money, they were suppose to run out a year ago lol. Now with the Donald and GBP on board, people not familiar with these two guys should know, they will both put the Fertitas to shame in both greed and money.

[chimba]

And do you think Donald Trump is in the business of losing money?? They still have the same core of fighters they will recycle every show. And when is their next show? It's hard to compete with the UFC if they only have shows every 6 months. Hopefully they survive I bought the ppv and thought there was some great fights.

After last night, I think Affliction caught some serious steam. Two things, Fedor and Belfort and to a certain extent Barnett. The production was the best theyve done. They were just more professional than the UFC and less over the top than Pride.

Atencio certainly is a serious guy compared to the alwys cussing Dana (which act is getting old)

They need fighters no doubt, good thing Le, Diaz, Lawler and Noons are free agents. If they can get them, and Silva leaves the UFC. Theres no way Im taking a Rampage/Rashad main event over anything Affliction puts out.

[Grievesy]

It's great that Affliction are providing some competition for the UFC. They already have a good roster, and with the recent collapse of Pro Elite they could definately grab some of the free agents for their lower weight classes and fill out their roster further. Plus they will attract fighters flies to shit if they continue paying the purses that they currently do.

[LB3000]

As long as Fedor keeps winning - Affliction will be around. Its not as simple as that, bottom line is they need to make money. And relying on one fighter shows how difficult its going to be for them. As Ajax pointed out, we don't even know when there next event is or how many events they have planned for the year.

As for Affliction running out of money, they were suppose to run out a year ago lol. Now with the Donald and GBP on board, people not familiar with these two guys should know, they will both put the Fertitas to shame in both greed and money. Its all good saying Trump and GBP are 'partners' with Affliction but in what capacity?

It might sound like I'm hating but I'm just being a realist. I really hope Affliction do well. It would be great not only for the fighters but also the fans if the UFC had a serious rival.

[AJAX]

After last night, I think Affliction caught some serious steam. Two things, Fedor and Belfort and to a certain extent Barnett. The production was the best theyve done. They were just more professional than the UFC and less over the top than Pride.

Atencio certainly is a serious guy compared to the alwys cussing Dana (which act is getting old)

They need fighters no doubt, good thing Le, Diaz, Lawler and Noons are free agents. If they can get them, and Silva leaves the UFC. Theres no way Im taking a Rampage/Rashad main event over anything Affliction puts out.

well if the UFC had a show every 6 months I'm sure they can stack a card as well.

[chimba]

Its not as simple as that, bottom line is they need to make money. And relying on one fighter shows how difficult its going to be for them. As Ajax pointed out, we don't even know when there next event is or how many events they have planned for the year.

Its all good saying Trump and GBP are 'partners' with Affliction but in what capacity? As far as I'm aware it hasn't come out.

It might sound like I'm hating but I'm just being a realist. I really hope Affliction do well. It would be great not only for the fighters but also the fans if the UFC had a serious rival.


I know you're not hating. But this is really that simple, this is entertainment and last night, Affliction really delivered. As a fan, I cannot see Affliction folding after last night, they created a buzz. I want more. Now if the feeling you got after last night was "hhmmm, its ok, dont care for it much", then theres a problem

There is no doubt about it, they gained new fans last night. This is the fight game, they saw Fedor, the greatest fighter maybe ever and now they want to see more. Against Sylvia it was a mere introduction, this time its the unveiling.

Oscar was there missing the Mosley/Margo fight! Why? its instinctive, he knew this might be something big. As for Trump, he probably just dont like the Fertitas.

I agree there is still a hurdle, what was the PPV sales? did it break even?
If the numbers are decent, theres a few more coming. And this is really the only thing they need..to keep going. The UFC is totally watered down with their shows and people who are getting bamboozled getting tired of it.

Meanwhile I want to see more Fedor.

[chimba]

well if the UFC had a show every 6 months I'm sure they can stack a card as well.

lol yeah right, let them do it, itll give Dana a heart attack. If Silva leaves which he stated he will and BJ wont take it from Dana anymore. Goodbye UFC. They can do a show once a year. GSP and the rest of the UFC.

Dana better be concerned bashing his guy BJ. GSP is the only one I can see whos totally inlove with him. Lesnar wont take his shit either

[LB3000]

I agree there is still a hurdle, what was the PPV sales? did it break even? Yeah it will be intresting to see how many buys they get. Hopefully, at the very least it will be an improvement over the 1st event.

Meanwhile I want to see more Fedor.:yep

[AJAX]

They better catch "steam" before it's too late with the high salaries they are paying their fighters turning a profit is that much tougher. There is 5 or 6 bars that carry every UFC event in my city I called all of them to see where I could watch the card and none of them had it and only 1 guy even knew what I was talking about. Paying Matt Lindlund over 200,000 is risky at best.

[codeman99998]

If A. Silva for example jumps and guys like Cung and Lawler follows suit. They will cause very big problems for the UFC.

The UFC cannot keep on giving us a Franklin/Henderson main events. They only manage to get away with it because theyre the only game in town. Now with Fedor being this mythical figure..they would be forced to ante up. But with what?? Without Gsp vs Penn/Alves, what do they have?? Jardine vs. Rampage?? as main event?? lol

I was just thinking about Rashad vs. Forrest, it was good but now way I take that over Fedor as a main event for the same $45.

And Dana needs to stops cussing all the time on TV. This guy is so unprofessional, the Fertitas are going to have to call him to a meeting soon.

Think also of the guys unhappy with Dana and the UFC. We know BJs not happy. Silvas gone after this year. Nog, Wandy, Chuck and Randy are done. Be happy hes still got Lesnar, pray that Mir doesnt beat him

First of all, it can be argued (I certainly think, at least) that Franklin and Hendo are the #2 and #3 MWs in the world. The fight wasn't stellar, but #2 and #3 is about as good as you can get for a non-title headliner.

Rua (Formally considered by some to be the #1 LHW in the world) fought his comeback fight on that card as well. Also, matching up Davis versus Lytle is a sure way to have an exciting fight.

Also, the event was SUPPOSED to be free on Spike, but Spike didn't want to commit so much money to it so early in the year (You ever notice there are more Spike events at the END of the year? It's because they have a better idea of their yearly budget at that point.)

All in all, not every card can be a championship card. UFC 93 wasn't the best, but Affliction has put on TWO SHOWS and UFC has put on 93 + fight nights. I hope Affliction stays around, and stays competitive with the UFC, but two shows doesn't prove financial longevity.

[Beebs]

From a show vs show standpoint, sure, but Affliction puts on 1 show every half a year or so, the UFC does about 2 a month so the talent is spread thinner.

Not from a business standpoint though; Affliction is losing money every time they put on a show, and their t shirts aren't nearly as popular anymore.

Yes they have wealthy partners, but those partners are not charities, they won't take a loss indefinitely.

They are a t-shirt company putting on an MMA show for fun, thats fine until people stop wanting skulls and flaming devils and shit on a $50 t-shirt.

[Nuke]

I think they will start turning a profit soon enough, fighters talk to each other and the purses alone will be enough for most fighters to bail out on the UFC. Once a few guys jump shit Dana will start really being a dickhead to the remainder of his roster and shit talk the jumpers pissing fighters off all over the place and eventually the UFC will be the farm team for Affliction. Atleast thats what I hope hahahahaha, man I hate Dana.

[chimba]

I think they will start turning a profit soon enough, fighters talk to each other and the purses alone will be enough for most fighters to bail out on the UFC. Once a few guys jump shit Dana will start really being a dickhead to the remainder of his roster and shit talk the jumpers pissing fighters off all over the place and eventually the UFC will be the farm team for Affliction. Atleast thats what I hope hahahahaha, man I hate Dana.


This is real world talk.:good This is going on as we speak. Silva is retiring, after Dana tried to embarrass him after his Cote fight. Silva has an interview on YT Brazilian TV, he aint kiddin

[AJAX]

you guys are dilusional :nut

[chimba]

How so?? The card last night was better than anything the UFC has put out all of last year.

[ozziebattler]

This is real world talk.:good This is going on as we speak. Silva is retiring, after Dana tried to embarrass him after his Cote fight. Silva has an interview on YT Brazilian TV, he aint kiddin


I doubt he will retire if Affliction throw a million or so bucks at him..Which is very likely to happen once his UFC contract expires.

[chimba]

I doubt he will retire if Affliction throw a million or so bucks at him..Which is very likely to happen once his UFC contract expires.

Thats the deal. Truthfully, the UFC MW division is not that strong. I want to see Silva vs Belfort or Le or Lawler

[Big N Bad]

I totally agree, UFC have some SERIOUS competition.

Affliction have only had 2 shows and are already killing it, they have the money and now that they teaming with GBP it will be a huge boost.
Money means they could advertise and get more exposure.

This show was imo brilliantly presented (production), there wasnt any time wasting, they just got on with the fights, a couple of backstage interviews which is great. Affliction are only going to get better. the skys the limit.

Everyfight was exciting, all the match ups excepts the first one could have possibly been main events in the ufc.

And for some reason the action is far better in a ring, its much faster paced. i prefer the ring. even in pride, the action seemed much faster.

thats why i hope affliction take over, they pay more and your not likely to be tied to some contract.
:thumbsup

[scurlaruntings]

As long as Golden Boy and Trump remain there benefactors expect fighters to start taking interest in Affliction. Hopefully they can start building there roster and turning over there shows faster than the current rate. There getting ALOT of cooperation which is great for the sport as a whole.

[MaliSlamusrex]

after that last event there will be more and more people getting involved and this is a good thing, the problem with the UFC is tunnel vision and trying to control every aspect of their fighters and media its stupid.

[ozziebattler]

Thats the deal. Truthfully, the UFC MW division is not that strong. I want to see Silva vs Belfort or Le or Lawler


Yeah vs Le or Belfort are the fights i want 2 see..

I havent seen much of Cung Le..How highly do u rate him??From what i see he looks the goods..

And also what is heing doing?like does he have any fights coming up??

[BoxingFanNo1]

As much as I enjoyed the show, no, UFC don't have 'Serious' competition. Give it time though......

[Shogun_12]

Hendo, Maia, Marquardt And Franklin would wreck Le. he's overhyped imo.

[Totomabs]

Excellent Card tonight. Fedor is the sacred cow of MMA now that he is getting unbelievable exposure. His Legend grows. It was worth the money just having Fedor in the Main event, its a spectacle.

Vitor Belfort looked amazing tonight at 185, he looked and fought like a completely different man. A possible foil for UFCs A. Silva (who may decide to jump ship when his contract ends this year)

I enjoyed the production value, the extended post fight interviews. They werent rushing the show at all. Tito, much respect, he did a good job.

Theres money money and lots of money. The Donald, Trump. Atencio is the opposite of Dana White, very professional.

I like the ring, from an audience perspective its great. Fighters might think otherwise

They have some fighters, Barnett, Babalu is looking great. If they can somehow get a couple of fighters like a Cung Le or an Aoki, watch out.


yeah. by the way, where's gomi and diaz nowadays? how about arona?

[fatcity]

One or two PPV's a year is competition?:patsch

[AJAX]

One or two PPV's a year is competition?:patsch

Yeah, next show might not be until August.

[AJAX]

Thats the deal. Truthfully, the UFC MW division is not that strong. I want to see Silva vs Belfort or Le or Lawler

Sounds like your already counting on Silva,B.J. lesnar and all the good elite XC fighters to fight for them....I just hope you don't get your hopes up too high. They won't even put on a show unless Fedor is on it.

[AJAX]

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I'm sure how much longer Affliction will be around, after the Fedor-Barnett fight I'm not sure who else would be a big enough draw for them even to warrant puting on a show. I hate to shatter alot of your dreams but I don't Affliction is going anywhere, too bad I thought the show was very good .

[chimba]

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I'm sure how much longer Affliction will be around, after the Fedor-Barnett fight I'm not sure who else would be a big enough draw for them even to warrant puting on a show. I hate to shatter alot of your dreams but I don't Affliction is going anywhere, too bad I thought the show was very good .

Hes just playing low. As long as Fedor is in the card, dont mater who he fights. Liek I said, If they can get a couple of MW free agents from Elite xc, their MW division will look good

[Vitor Belfort]

Excellent Card tonight. Fedor is the sacred cow of MMA now that he is getting unbelievable exposure. His Legend grows. It was worth the money just having Fedor in the Main event, its a spectacle.

Vitor Belfort looked amazing tonight at 185, he looked and fought like a completely different man. A possible foil for UFCs A. Silva (who may decide to jump ship when his contract ends this year)

I enjoyed the production value, the extended post fight interviews. They werent rushing the show at all. Tito, much respect, he did a good job.

Theres money money and lots of money. The Donald, Trump. Atencio is the opposite of Dana White, very professional.

I like the ring, from an audience perspective its great. Fighters might think otherwise

They have some fighters, Barnett, Babalu is looking great. If they can somehow get a couple of fighters like a Cung Le or an Aoki, watch out.

Dream has a lot of talented fighters. I hope more big names fighters comes to Dream organization. Most of the former ufc fighters are making dream their home and it's great. The way Dana White treats his ufc fighters, i wont be surprise if most of them leave and join DREAM.