Loaded Gloves?

[LeonMcS]

Just woke up after getting home from todays PPV and I'm hearing chatter about Margos gloves being loaded...jaysus, say it ain't so Tony...anyone have any updates?

If true hope they lock him away for many years.

[Rise Above]

The only link I've seen is this one.

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[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Just woke up after getting home from todays PPV and I'm hearing chatter about Margos gloves being loaded...jaysus, say it ain't so Tony...anyone have any updates?

Yeah, it's true, all over the Net now!

Here's a grab from digitaljournal.com:

Dean Lohuis, the interim co-executive director of the California State Athletic Commission, said an illegal substance was found in Margarito’s hand wraps. A boxing hand was wrapped with tapes and gauze to protect them before he puts on the gloves.

‘It was a plastic-like substance’, said Golden Boy promotions Atty. Stephen Espinosa. ‘It was bagged up by the commission and taken as evidence ‘.

Nazim Richardson, Mosley’s trainer, complained that Margarito’s wraps looked too large with a lump. An inspector for the commission agreed and ordered the wraps to be cut off and then re wrapped.

That is when the illegal substance was discovered. HBO’s analyst Larry Merchant, who was in the dressing room area doing interviews, said he had been told it was some kind of a wet substance.

It is expected that the incident will be investigated by the boxing regulators in California.

[nz1968]

what a dickhead ban him and his crew if this is true

[Wrangler]

That's disgraceful! No wonder he had a reputation as a KO(n)artist. I hope he gets his just desserts. I would have thought there'd be a lot more 'watching' of gloves and hand wraps at this level.

[ipswich express]

Interesting to see how it unfolds.

[JOE COOL]

Still didnt help him any .

[sambo1987]

Might have helped him in the cotto fight ay.. Well anywhoo he got his beat down

[Rise Above]

Interesting to see how it unfolds.

You're not wrong. I am curious to see what happens.

[ipswich express]

Still didnt help him any .

Hey Joe, the word is that Margarito's team were halfway through wrapping his hands when Mosley's cornerman didn't like it. Stopped the wrapping and the substance was found. Apparently it's like a plaster of paris, that get's harder as it dries. If this is the case...fuck Margarito.

[straight left]

Jorge Arce has the same crew that will be wrapping his hands when he fights Vic in two weeks.

Can you imagine what is going through Miguel Cotto's head at the moment. If its true thats really f&*&@! up !

[Sapphire]

Did they find the Plaser before the fight? or after? cos the fight was delayed due to a wrapping problem. they had to re-wrap his hands.

[ipswich express]

Before the fight. That's why it was delayed.

[JOE COOL]

Ipswich it turns me off drinking Margarito's ,200 years ago they taped glass to there knuckles and had a crack at least Marg had gloves on.Ha Ha

[Anenigma]

This is a real shame and kinda takes away from the Cotto win, wouldn't have made much difference yesterday he couldn't even land to start with.

F*ckin idiots the gloves are small enough to start with and if your hands are wrapped properly it has the same effect anyway.

[maco_187]

i think it explains a little as to why cotto was getting hurt so much and often if true, shameful act, 10 ounce gloves are small enough, hit most guys with 16's flush is even enough let alone to have plaster on your hands...

[perfect jet]

Jorge Arce has the same crew that will be wrapping his hands when he fights Vic in two weeks.

Can you imagine what is going through Miguel Cotto's head at the moment. If its true thats really f&*&@! up !

Billy H informed me that Javier Capetillo (Margs trainer) isn't training Arce for this fight. I guess it still bears close watching though...

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Two things come to mind:

1/ How did they think they'd get away with this?
2/ How many times have they got away with it before?

There's been a few instances in the past where tampering might have occurred. One involved Jack Dempsey (never proven and probably b/s) and another about 10 years ago where the trainer cut away the padding inside the gloves (this one resulted in permanent eye damage to the opponent and they were eventually busted).

[Marcus]

shut up you faggots, nothing has been proved!!!!

[Bognashavin]

Regardless of what may or may not yet be proven, it is perfectly reasonable and natural for people to speculate about what was removed and what impact it could have had. You have to ask why a pro0feesional team would have something in the wrapping that warrants removal and further investigation

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

shut up you faggots, nothing has been proved!!!!

Maybe someones false teeth fell in while they were wrapping his hands...I'm sure there'll be a reasonable explanation Marcus!

[teke]

Maybe someones false teeth fell in while they were wrapping his hands...I'm sure there'll be a reasonable explanation Marcus!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Marcus]

Maybe someones false teeth fell in while they were wrapping his hands...I'm sure there'll be a reasonable explanation Marcus!

Iv never liked you :fire

[Dr Gonzo]

is this similar to what trinidad did? if so, what happened to him?

[Marcus]

and what happened to barrera for skimming his gloves vs rocky 2?

or is it all media lies :huh

[BoppaZoo]

is this similar to what trinidad did? if so, what happened to him?
Nothing happened to Tito.

Just like nothing happened to Mosley for taking EPO.

Boxing is just one f8&KIng drama after another.

[Jambo]

For those who aren't aware, Trinidad got caught in an extremely similar situation before he fought Hopkins. Funnily enough much like Margarito, went out and put on an extremely poor performance and was badly beaten.

Much like Marg, a fighter who relies quite heavily on his punching power.

Tito IMO never really showed the same sort of power or looked the same after that fight either. Whtether it was age, the loss, the inactivity or the fact he couldn't wrap his hands that way anymore is anyones guess. Still, you have to assume it played a factor in his unbelievable punching power. Especially when his father admitted to having done it their entire careers.

What really makes you wonder, is how much of this sh*t goes on at the lower levels. I mean, if this can be gotten away with it on a HBO world title fight, can you imagine the stuff that would go on in minor domestic fights.

Jack Dempsy impersonaters left right and centre.

[Jambo]

I noticed that a lot of people ragged on Mosley here for the roids thing.

This is worse IMO. Its extremely dangerous for the fighters involved. Considering how thin those gloves are, taking a sustained beating with a plaster like material only just behind the padding could result in very serious injury.

Disgraceful.

I hope this isn't forgotten about.

[teke]

I think Cotto can convincingly beat Marg in the rematch, he need only tinker a few things in his game plan to do so.

Margacheato :-(:-(:-(

[pecks]

It certainly brings new meaning to the term 'Getting plastered'.

Fuck you Marg you cheating cunt!

[JOSEY WALES]

If i was Mags i would have had Shane's gloves checked for fucking horseshoes post fight , :lol: On a serious note has anyone EVER seen Mosley dispatch punches with so much venom attatched ? :think

[Marcus]

I noticed that a lot of people ragged on Mosley here for the roids thing.

This is worse IMO. Its extremely dangerous for the fighters involved. Considering how thin those gloves are, taking a sustained beating with a plaster like material only just behind the padding could result in very serious injury.

Disgraceful.

I hope this isn't forgotten about.

Fuck yeah i did, i dislike any boxer who is a cheater.

I not a huge fan of shanes due to him admitting he injected himself many times....the old, " i didnt know what it was " is such bullshit for a adult to say, make them look worse.

Whats Tony been found guilty of ?

[Anenigma]

Fuck yeah i did, i dislike any boxer who is a cheater.

I not a huge fan of shanes due to him admitting he injected himself many times....the old, " i didnt know what it was " is such bullshit for a adult to say, make them look worse.

Whats Tony been found guilty of ?

I don't think injecting something beside your belly button that gives you more red blood cells can be compared to putting plaster of Paris over your knuckles:good

[Marcus]

I don't think injecting something beside your belly button that gives you more red blood cells can be compared to putting plaster of Paris over your knuckles:good


And which one of the two have been proved mate?

[Anenigma]

And which one of the two have been proved mate?


It's black and white mate and the only way it will be swept under the carpet is because the commision missed it in the first place:good

[Boxing Fanatic]

So many people prosecuting Margarito, and that is understandable. But, how many other people are doing other illegal shite as well? Think about it.

[Robot16]

reminds me of panama al brown (i think his name) who trained luis resto and took out the padding from the gloves and the other fighter died i think.

[Phil Austin]

Panama Lewis it was, Billy Collins was the opponent and a highly touted prospect. Collin's did not die from ring injuries per se but suffered deep depression following and was killed in a car crash which many took as a suicide bid.
To be honest, it is pretty hard to get anything past the California commission; I've worked there and they are very strict - they wouldn't even let a fighter take a banana into his dressing room FFS

[Hmmm]

Is it possible that the whole result of the fight changed due to the fact that they discovered the illegal substance. Is is possible that Margs lost a whole lot of cconfidence knowing that the "plaster" wasnt there. I had a feeling throughout the fight that Margs was noticing that his punches didnt affect Mosley as much as he thought.

[Anenigma]

Is it possible that the whole result of the fight changed due to the fact that they discovered the illegal substance. Is is possible that Margs lost a whole lot of cconfidence knowing that the "plaster" wasnt there. I had a feeling throughout the fight that Margs was noticing that his punches didnt affect Mosley as much as he thought.


I think that if they pre treated there wraps which they have admitted to (Marcus) then they would have done this with all their fights and even if it gives Marg a mental edge it's an edge he didn't have in the Mosely fight.

[Marcus]

I think that if they pre treated there wraps which they have admitted to (Marcus) then they would have done this with all their fights and even if it gives Marg a mental edge it's an edge he didn't have in the Mosely fight.


:bart Link please?

[Wrangler]

I think that if they pre treated there wraps which they have admitted to (Marcus) then they would have done this with all their fights and even if it gives Marg a mental edge it's an edge he didn't have in the Mosely fight.


I agree with you here mate. I would think that once the plan was foiled, it would have had to play on Marg's mind. Sitting on his conscience would have been the fact he didn't have that something extra. Maybe this is what opened the door for Mosely, Marg's mind was on other things.