Spadafora vs PBF Exclusive Video Inside!!! Did PBF duck Spadafora??

[C Money]

After many years, and a lot of speculation based off limited footage, I now present to ESB, Spadafora vs PBF, in it’s entirety. As a side note, I could have sold this or given it to various other sources, but I like Eastside! I’m happy to give its members the first announcement and viewing opportunity. Other sites get plenty of “Hype” but Eastside is where it’s at! .I’m also creating a poll, so we can have an informed vote on whether or not PBF DUCKED SPADAFORA!! Please review the timeline that corresponds with and follow’s this event, watch “sparring session” video, and THEN VOTE!!

The following is the timeline of what transpired:
Starting with PBF vs Genaro Hernandez on October, 3 1998. It’s regarded as a major win and it was for the LINEAL Title at 130. Hernandez was a very good fighter at one point and had a good career, but AT WHAT POINT DID PBF face him?? It was the LAST fight of a 14 year career and? A 6rd KO of DLH had destroyed him previously! GH was an excellent fighter but CLEARLY NOT PRIME, IN ANY SENSE of the word.

Floyd then beats Angel Manfredy in December 19, 1998 and follows up that win wins over Carlos Rios February 17, 1999, ****** Juuko May, 22, 1999, and Carlos Gerena on September 11, 1999. Up to this point?? There had been no indication from PBF, his people, or Arum regarding either Diego Corrales who won the IBF Title on October 23, 1999, Joel Casamayor who won the WBA Interim title(which became official by May 21, 2000) on June 19, 1999, or Acelino Freitas who won the WBO Title on April 2, 1999.

Paul Spadafora then wins the IBF 35 Title in dominant fashion on August 20, 1999. Now, what’s Floyd’s next move?? He goes looking for Spadafora to test the waters at 135, thinking it’s an easy title fight, and the EXCUSE needed to move up without facing either Corrales, Casamayor, or Freitas at 130. The sparring session takes place in the two weeks prior to Spadafora’s first title defense against Renato Cornett on December 17, 1999. As people can now for the first time see, Spadafora gave Floyd plenty of trouble and got the best of him. The athletic supporters with PBF initial’s engraved on their foreheads, who call themselves “PBF Fans”, have long touted the “out of shape” excuse which was quickly brandied by PBF’s camp as a way to justify how such an “IINFERIOR FIGHTER” and “Mediocre Champion” could not only compete, but give Floyd more than he bargained for. Often IGNORED, is why Floyd would go looking for Spadafora when he was “out of shape” and Spat was getting ready to defend?? Why would Uncle Roger, who can clearly be seen there, allow this to happen?? Why was Floyd, who as seen on the 24/7 promotional lead up to DLH talking mad shit to a sparring partner, doing the same routine, as he entered the gym with Spadafora?? Speaking of beating the “white boy” etc, etc, etc? If, he was out of shape, what sense do any of the excuses make?? IT DOESN’T!!!! More importantly, this session and following events show that PBF was interested in moving to 35 and getting out of 30. There’s plenty of parallel between these events and similar handling of events as Floyd transgressed from 140 to 147. The other “famous” sparring session with Zab Judah. The clear difference is, Floyd beat Zab, thus demanding that fight even after Judah lost to Baldomir. Yet, Spadafora beats him and Floyd does everything NOT TO MAKE THE FIGHT!!

So. PBF gets lumped and when asked by Max Kellerman on FNF a short while later about the incident?? Floyd’s face contorts as if he’s constipated and basically shouts, “I don’t wanna talk about Spadafora, I don’t wanna talk about Spadafora”!!! Three months elapse between the sparring session and facing Gregorio Vargas on March 18, 2000. THEN, Floyd moves UP to 35 against Emanuel Augustus on October 21,2000. Now at this point Spadafora’s camp is saying you want it??? YOU GOT IT!!!! Welcome to 135 we got a belt “gift-wrapped and waiting”! No answer from Floyd, just the occasional quotes in various newspaper articles and interviews where Floyd talks of breaking Spadafora’s nose and embarrassing him, but never says YES to an offer or counter-offers!! Then suddenly, the landscape changes!!!! Diego Corrales’s life is spinning out of control in a storm of issues and facing incarceration after a period of time where he had been calling out Floyd to face him at 130. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? .Floyd goes BACK DOWN to 30 in Jan 2001, to face Chico. PBF then stay’s at 130 and faces Carlos Hernandez May 26, 2001, and Jesus Chavez November 10, 2001, which while decent fights?? Weren’t UNIFYING fights!! Casamayor, and Freitas were ignored, and they continued to ignore Spadafora who offered them a title fight at 35, which is CLEARLY WHERE Floyd was headed.

Finally?? 2002 comes and the PBF vs Castillo match up could be made and Floyd jumps on it!! Almost loses the first, wins the second clearly, and it takes all of 2002. The PBF vs Castillo match up was deemed for the Vacant and newly re-instituted Ring Championship. Before one of those fights, PBF and Spadafora cross paths in a casino, where Floyd starts RUNNING HIS MOUTH, again talking a lot of BS. Spadafora reached a point where he’d had enough, takes his shirt off and says, “whats up with right now?” Floyd heads the other way and security homes in to prevent anything from happening. That would seem to make one think that Floyd would then fight Spadafora and collect the IBF belt to go along with the BC and CLEAR UP, the whole “sparring issue” and excuses. But, what does PBF do AFTER THAT?? On April 19, 2003 he fights Sosa, whom Spadafora had already BEAT on March 3, 2000.

Spadafora fought Leonard Dorin in May 17,2003 in an attempt to add the WBA title to his IBF and force Floyd into a Unification event at 135. Spadafora’ problems began to surface in that fight as behind the scenes his personal life was in turmoil. After that point, Spadafora is involved in a shooting incident with his then girlfriend, and hits REHAB with alcohol and drug issues. THEN??? Suddenly, just days after hitting rehab, in comes a lowball offer from Mayweather, to fight Spadafora in Floyd’s hometown of Grand Rapids, Michigan. Spadafora’s camp negotiates for a more neutral location, which was to be New York State, and Spadafora loses his license due to his legal troubles and the fight falls through. Needing rehab to produce an offer? Is a JOKE and a damn SHAME!

The history of Boxing and the greatness of it’s Champions, has always been defined by the best fighting the best and PROVING, not talking, theorizing, and speculating on outcomes. Floyd Mayweather has claimed to be the BEST OF ALL-TIME but has failed to approach the game of boxing with the winning attitude that the real ALL-TIME GREATS have always displayed. Ask yourselves, would guys like SRR or SRL, Hagler, Duran, Whitaker, Chavez, Ali, etc., have accorded themselves in similar manner???
After Hatton?? Let’s hope that Floyd continues to erase past transgressions and walks a path of greatness, rather than retirement, and sensationalism.

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[KO Boxing]

:lol:

All that effort to show PBF ducked someone in sparring? In 10 years, NO ONE but the Spadafora family will know who Paul is. Yet alone mention the fact that Mayweather possibly ducked him. Just like all the other fighters he possibly ducked...

BTW, Castillo KO Mid Rounds Spadafora

[KO Boxing]

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Is that what all the fuss is about? Ater actually watching all six rounds, it's quite clear Floyd is just playing and messin' around.

[WhataRock]

This has been argued to death and Ive read even Paul admitted that he was very fight fit and not far out from a fight. Whereas PBF pretty much just walked up and sparred him.

This proves nothing, Spaddy had the tools to be a real good sparring partner but his ability never really manifested itself in the ring. He really wasnt that exceptional a fighter.

[bigtime9]

poor no-money do we need to take up a collection for that broke felon. boy you are too dumb for stupid:lol:

[#1]

Spadafora was a lot better than people give him credit for. His personal demons killed his career.

[WhataRock]

None of my personal demons ever tell me to put a cap in my missus' chest.

[BigReg]

Why did you post a video of Mayweather goofing around with Spadafora?

[C Money]

:lol:

All that effort to show PBF ducked someone in sparring? In 10 years, NO ONE but the Spadafora family will know who Paul is. Yet alone mention the fact that Mayweather possibly ducked him. Just like all the other fighters he possibly ducked...

BTW, Castillo KO Mid Rounds Spadafora

Same topic had over 1200 views LAST WEEK:D Ask Bitchtime:lol:

You're BS?? Changes NOTHING. It is what it IS and PBF DUCKED such an "inferior" fighter at 35 so what's that say about him?? Notice, IT ISNT A POSSIBILITY, IT'S A REALITY:yep :yep

This is just the beginning of Floyd's CHERRY PICKED ALPHA TITLES and NO UNIFICATION. Floyd's avoided the top opp in every division, BUT HE FLAT OUT DUCKED SPADAFORA!!!

[C Money]

poor no-money do we need to take up a collection for that broke felon. boy you are too dumb for stupid:lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

BITCHTIME, you'll never understand that YOU ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK of ESB, will you??

You got NOTHING!! No five masters degrees, no boxing experience, no connections, NO BALLS, and no credentials that mean a god damn thing!! Just BS, hot air, and too much time on you're hands:yep

The joke's on you:good


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[C Money]

Why did you post a video of Mayweather goofing around with Spadafora?

:lol:

Sorry son, that's Floyd right after A PRIME SHIT TALKING, "I'mma beat a WHITEBOY ASS ROUTINE"":lol:


Why did they seek out Spadafora and come down to the gym that day?? To goof around and make a TOTAL ASS of himself?? How come it took 3 years and rehab before PBF wanted to prove this day was an "aberration"??

BS is as BS does:hey Ya Boy took the LOSS on that day.

[BigReg]

:lol:

Sorry son, that's Floyd right after A PRIME SHIT TALKING, "I'mma beat a WHITEBOY ASS ROUTINE"":lol:


Why did they seek out Spadafora and come down to the gym that day?? To goof around and make a TOTAL ASS of himself?? How come it took 3 years and rehab before PBF wanted to prove this day was an "aberration"??

BS is as BS does:hey Ya Boy took the LOSS on that day.

You seem to be pretty adament about this whole sparring session thing. Are you and Paul related or something? Spadafora got the best of Floyd but I don't know how much weight that carries. Maybe he can bring this video to HBO. Who knows, maybe they'll throw Paul a bone and he can fight on one of Floyd's undercards. Here's a better idea, he can bring the video to the editor of ring magazine. Maybe they'll rank him in their next p4p list. You know, seeing as how he took it to Floyd in a sparring session and all.

[Jose FM]

Thanks C-Money, i appriciate when some has backup to what theyre talking about and you clearly did. All these posters on ESB talk like they know everything, all one can offer is perspective and youve shined some light on me.:good

[C Money]

You seem to be pretty adament about this whole sparring session thing. Are you and Paul related or something? Spadafora got the best of Floyd but I don't know how much weight that carries. Maybe he can bring this video to HBO. Who knows, maybe they'll throw Paul a bone and he can fight on one of Floyd's undercards. Here's a better idea, he can bring the video to the editor of ring magazine. Maybe they'll rank him in their next p4p list. You know, seeing as how he took it to Floyd in a sparring session and all.

Yall PBF pom pom squad groupies CRACK ME THE FUCK UP:lol:

READ the timeline of factual events provided!! PBF has cherry picked his whole career. He claims to be the best all time??:lol: :lol:

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! Prove that shit in the ring, beat the best opponents and try unifying a division. He didnt unify 35 because Spadafora dogged him. The fact that it took REHAB to get an offer?? Speaks volumes!!

[C Money]

EVERYONE KNOWS I DONT LIKE FLOYD AND IN THAT VIDEO IT LOOKED LIKE PAUL WAS GETTING THE BETTER OF HIM, BUT I HAVE FOLLOWED BOTH OF THERE CAREERS AND IF THEY WOULD HAVE FOUGHT I TRULY BELIEVE THAT FLOYD WOULD HAVE GOT IN THAT ASS :deal ..

now someone please tell the huggers that I said something nice about Floyd :patsch

thanks


What?? You dont "love me" no more???:lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey...SHITEATO, it's FACTS NOT SPECULATION THAT COUNTS!!

What you see is Floyd getting beat and the rest?? Is HIS-STORY!!!:lol:

How come he needed 3 years and a rehab to extend the OFFER??

BTW, you say ANY and EVERYTHING, and it has no relevance, because you're word and rep is MUD!!!!

[C Money]

Thanks C-Money, i appriciate when some has backup to what theyre talking about and you clearly did. All these posters on ESB talk like they know everything, all one can offer is perspective and youve shined some light on me.:good

Appreciate the comments:good As I said, I'm happy to give ESB the first views!!!!


What I've said all a long?? Is why didnt Floyd back up his words??

3 years and REHAB, to face such an INFERIOR FIGHTER??:lol: :lol: :lol:

[BigReg]

Yall PBF pom pom squad groupies CRACK ME THE FUCK UP:lol:

READ the timeline of factual events provided!! PBF has cherry picked his whole career. He claims to be the best all time??:lol: :lol:

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! Prove that shit in the ring, beat the best opponents and try unifying a division. He didnt unify 35 because Spadafora dogged him. The fact that it took REHAB to get an offer?? Speaks volumes!!

Okay, good for Paul. Now that he's out of jail, maybe he can make a name for himself by beating an elite fighter in a bout that counts. You're right, Floyd has some nerve calling himself the best, he never even beat Paul Spadafora. Sure, he's won titles in 5 different weight classes and is universally recognized as the best p4p fighter, but none of that counts for anything seeing as how never unified any titles. You know, when Floyd is being inducted into the hall of fame you should show this video to the voting committee. I'm pretty sure they'll rethink their votes when they see that Floyd was bested by Spadafora in a sparring session.

[C Money]

Okay, good for Paul. Now that he's out of jail, maybe he can make a name for himself by beating an elite fighter in a bout that counts. You're right, Floyd has some nerve calling himself the best, he never even beat Paul Spadafora. Sure, he's won titles in 5 different weight classes and is universally recognized as the best p4p fighter, but none of that counts for anything seeing as how never unified any titles. You know, when Floyd is being inducted into the hall of fame you should show this video to the voting committee. I'm pretty sure they'll rethink their votes when they see that Floyd was bested by Spadafora in a sparring session.

:lol:

Would guy's like SRR, SRL, Whitaker, etc, etc, etc have ducked such an inferior opponent??

Floyd's opposition is a FUCKING JOKE in comparison to real ATG's. Let lil Floyd stop cherry picking and start PROVING his greatness and legacy.

Again, the fact Floyd ran from this guy and made an offer while Spadafora was IN REHAB, is a fucking JOKE!!! So are his "fans" who live in denial and suck his testicles vehemently.

Perhaps, Floyd is a REAL ATG, but guess what?? There's ONLY 1 WAY 2 FIND OUT!!! I give PBF credit, his first step is Hatton!! Hope he keeps it up and removes the DOUBT.

BTW, after watching, you think Paul Williams has more of a chance??:lol:

[BigReg]

:lol:

Would guy's like SRR, SRL, Whitaker, etc, etc, etc have ducked such an inferior opponent??

Floyd's opposition is a FUCKING JOKE in comparison to real ATG's. Let lil Floyd stop cherry picking and start PROVING his greatness and legacy.

Again, the fact Floyd ran from this guy and made an offer while Spadafora was IN REHAB, is a fucking JOKE!!! So are his "fans" who live in denial and suck his testicles vehemently.

Perhaps, Floyd is a REAL ATG, but guess what?? There's ONLY 1 WAY 2 FIND OUT!!! I give PBF credit, his first step is Hatton!! Hope he keeps it up and removes the DOUBT.

BTW, after watching, you think Paul Williams has more of a chance??:lol:

No way Floyd can beat Williams after watching this video. I'm glad you opened my eyes. I'm surprised he beat Zab Judah after watching this video. I mean, WOW. Paul Spadafora really did a number on Floyd. I here by declare Spadafora p4p the number 1 sparring champion. Look out Floyd, this sparring session video from like six years ago gives every lefty with a high punch output the perfect blueprint to beating you.

[C Money]

No way Floyd can beat Williams after watching this video. I'm glad you opened my eyes. I'm surprised he beat Zab Judah after watching this video. I mean, WOW. Paul Spadafora really did a number on Floyd. I here by declare Spadafora p4p the number 1 sparring champion. Look out Floyd, this sparring session video from like six years ago gives every lefty with a high punch output the perfect blueprint to beating you.

Keep the EXCUSES coming!!

Facts are facts, PBF ducked an "inferior" fighter at 35 after getting dogged and has cherry picked every division he's ever been in:good

As for Judah??:lol: As I pointed out if you read the post?? PBF sparred Judah before seeking that fight. THAT session went Floyd;s way and THEY INSISTED ON THAT FIGHT EVEN AFTER ZAB LOST TO BALDO!!
Why couldnt they fight Spadafora and cleanout 35???:lol: :lol:

A high volume southpaw with height and reach like Williams will absolutely give Floyd fits!!! That's why Primadonna Boy "dont know who that is".:lol:

Your hero ducked someone like Spat and you cant handle the TRUTH:|

[Thom]

Okay, good for Paul. Now that he's out of jail, maybe he can make a name for himself by beating an elite fighter in a bout that counts. You're right, Floyd has some nerve calling himself the best, he never even beat Paul Spadafora. Sure, he's won titles in 5 different weight classes and is universally recognized as the best p4p fighter, but none of that counts for anything seeing as how never unified any titles. You know, when Floyd is being inducted into the hall of fame you should show this video to the voting committee. I'm pretty sure they'll rethink their votes when they see that Floyd was bested by Spadafora in a sparring session.

:lol:

[C Money]

HEY FAG MONEY....IM JUST GIVEN MY OPINION OKAY? THAT ALRIGHT WITH YOU?

IVE ACTUALLY SEEN THE TWO BOX BEFORE AND IMHO FLOYD WOULD GET IN THAT ASS :deal ..

I WOULD BE WANTING PAUL TO WIN THOUGH, BUT JUST SAYING GIVEN THE GUYS FLOYD BEAT, I DONT SEE PAUL BEING A PROBLEM,

BUT GO ON WITH YOUR QUEST, YOU'RE RIGHT HE NEVER FOUGHT SPADAFORA, WOOPTY FRIGGIN DO:deal

STFU!!!! I dont give a shit what you say as I said, you'll SAY ANYTHING!!

You dont feel Spat would be a problem? Good 4 U!!! Too bad the FACTS INDICATE THAT FLOYD DID!!!! As he waited 3 years and then tendered an offer while Spadafora was in rehab:good

Proof is in the pudding, but we know that you dont get it!!
You're still trying to swallow the fact Paul Williams beat you're boy Margarito.:yep Dont worry though, you're still a half a notch higher than BITCHTIME on the ESB's biggest idiot list:D

[igotJUIC3]

got dayum it.....ITS JUST SPARRING!!!

[BeReal]

:-((

[C Money]

got dayum it.....ITS JUST SPARRING!!!

NO SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!


How come Floyd wouldnt make the REAL FIGHT, until Spadafora hit rehab, 3 years later???

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[igotJUIC3]

NO SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!


How come Floyd wouldnt make the REAL FIGHT, until Spadafora hit rehab, 3 years later???

:lol: :lol: :lol:

probally because he was busy fighting real contenders and better fighters.....check his resume hand picked or cherry picked whatever you wanna call it....PBF still went on to fight a slew of fighters who are WAY BETTER.....so my point is why would he be anymore scared of that dude when he has fought HARDER and BETTER opposition....he didnt "duck" the guy he simply wanst intrested in fighting him probaly because he felt it wasnt worth his time i dont know. But the facts still reamins you and a couple others seem to love this damn Sparring session that means nothing at all....if you get past your dis like for PBF you can see in the video he isnt even fighting the way he fights nor in the shape he normaly is in. He got owned in sparring so what he talked trash at the gym he always does so what......spaddy couldnt beat PBF in a real match then and he definitely wouldnt win now. His best chance is a damn sparring session.

[C Money]

probally because he was busy fighting real contenders and better fighters.....check his resume hand picked or cherry picked whatever you wanna call it....PBF still went on to fight a slew of fighters who are WAY BETTER.....so my point is why would he be anymore scared of that dude when he has fought HARDER and BETTER opposition....he didnt "duck" the guy he simply wanst intrested in fighting him probaly because he felt it wasnt worth his time i dont know. But the facts still reamins you and a couple others seem to love this damn Sparring session that means nothing at all....if you get past your dis like for PBF you can see in the video he isnt even fighting the way he fights nor in the shape he normaly is in. He got owned in sparring so what he talked trash at the gym he always does so what......spaddy couldnt beat PBF in a real match then and he definitely wouldnt win now. His best chance is a damn sparring session.


Finally?? 2002 comes and the PBF vs Castillo match up could be made and Floyd jumps on it!! Almost loses the first, wins the second clearly, and it takes all of 2002. The PBF vs Castillo match up was deemed for the Vacant and newly re-instituted Ring Championship. Before one of those fights, PBF and Spadafora cross paths in a casino, where Floyd starts RUNNING HIS MOUTH, again talking a lot of BS. Spadafora reached a point where he’d had enough, takes his shirt off and says, “whats up with right now?” Floyd heads the other way and security homes in to prevent anything from happening. That would seem to make one think that Floyd would then fight Spadafora and collect the IBF belt to go along with the BC and CLEAR UP, the whole “sparring issue” and excuses. But, what does PBF do AFTER THAT?? On April 19, 2003 he fights Sosa, whom Spadafora had already BEAT on March 3, 2000.



Try READING...LOOSE JUICE LIPS:good Read the prior paragraphs AS WELL!!!

You keep talking shit about SPARRING!!! Yet, Floyd was the one who wouldnt make the real fight!!!

Just like always, floyd never unify's or fights all the top opponents in a weight class, its the same old song and dance!!! Except in this particular case??? Floyd got his lil ass whooped.

[Rock0052]

thanks for the footage Cmoney:thumbsup

[Pimp C]

First I would like to say props to you for posting the video I and others doubted that you would come through and Paulie did get the best of him. With that being said this is just sparring you can take it with a grain of salt. It has no bearing on what would happen in a real boxing match and I think you know that as well. Like I've said before Paulie at 135 is no different than Margo at 147, they are both used by PBF haters to try and discredit PBF.

[charlievint]

Same topic had over 1200 views LAST WEEK:D Ask Bitchtime:lol:

You're BS?? Changes NOTHING. It is what it IS and PBF DUCKED such an "inferior" fighter at 35 so what's that say about him?? Notice, IT ISNT A POSSIBILITY, IT'S A REALITY:yep :yep

This is just the beginning of Floyd's CHERRY PICKED ALPHA TITLES and NO UNIFICATION. Floyd's avoided the top opp in every division, BUT HE FLAT OUT DUCKED SPADAFORA!!!

Spada "WHO":rofl ...Spaddy is a good fighter...no doubt about it. But you are just spewing garbage....HOT Garbage at that. Sparring is just that....Sparring. And Spaddy was in prime shape for his upcoming fight. Do you remember the war that Spaddy had with Leonard Dorin? :rofl A guy Gatti BLEW out. C'mon now...you can't really believe that Floyd Mayweather ducked Paul.

I mean....you did a great job with the smoke screen and all, but to people who really know boxing it's ubundantly clear that Spaddy just didn't have the name to bring nor the $$$ to bring to the table. Skill wise...yes...he's good but Good never beats great! Unless Great is not 100%. Thanks for the enteraining post though.:good

[Toopretty]

Yeah, I saw them box as well, and Paul whooped him, so what are you saying?

You believe Floyd loses to every single fighter he is faced with today, and think he loses every upcoming fight, so why do you have a hard time believing Paul could beat him?

You are a fucking idiot.. Floyd did not take Spadafora seriously the WHOLE FIGHT. Not just when he was dancing. He let his gloves down and Paulie was not connecting shit but a few grazing left str8s. Floyd didnt even have the stamina to go 6 rounds in fight that was not even in a fast pace and not using his legs. Anybody that seen any boxing match knows that Floyd was not if fighting shape and WAS FUCKING GOOFING AROUND. HE GOT BEAT ON VIDEO GOOFING AROUND. But this shit should be on americas funniest home videos before being taken seriously on how a real fight would play out. :admin:admin:admin Man this only confirms that Floyd did not take the Spadafora or the sparring seriously leaving his hands down walking str8 in not using any angles. That is floyd fucking goofing around

[charlievint]

Yall PBF pom pom squad groupies CRACK ME THE FUCK UP:lol:

READ the timeline of factual events provided!! PBF has cherry picked his whole career. He claims to be the best all time??:lol: :lol:

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! Prove that shit in the ring, beat the best opponents and try unifying a division. He didnt unify 35 because Spadafora dogged him. The fact that it took REHAB to get an offer?? Speaks volumes!!

LOL...I'm far from a PBF Groupie...just read my other posts on him, but I'm a logical and realistic boxing FAN! I don't let my personal feelings about how a boxer is outside the ring affect my judgement on what a boxer does inside the ring. You seem to have a major stiffy for Floyd for one reason or anther....

I guess you don't like his mouth and his brash sense of humor....I don't either but he's the best boxer (TECHNICALLY) and talent wise in our era.....Is he the all time best...HELL NO! But he's an amazing talent and the best today. Can he be beat! YEP! DLH and JLC almost did.

But this is nothing new.....every TOP guy has their haters, critics and detractors. Even the VERY best boxer P4P Ray Robinson had his in his day. He was said to have ducked a few fighters..."this, that & the other". Harsh criticism come when you are the "MAN" so to speak and Floyd is no different. Is it just?? No, but there is nothing anyone can do about it. It comes with the territory.

[kirk]

lol... when will people realise... sparring is not fighting.

Mayweather would outclass Spaddy if they FOUGHT.

[charlievint]

No way Floyd can beat Williams after watching this video. I'm glad you opened my eyes. I'm surprised he beat Zab Judah after watching this video. I mean, WOW. Paul Spadafora really did a number on Floyd. I here by declare Spadafora p4p the number 1 sparring champion. Look out Floyd, this sparring session video from like six years ago gives every lefty with a high punch output the perfect blueprint to beating you.

lol.....But I think Paul Williams is the only fighter out there with the style, demensions and size to beat floyd. I mean....DLH could have pulled off a "W" had floyd been more engaging, but DLH isn't a pressure fighter like JLC or Paul Williams.....And Paul is relentless....Floyd would have to be engaging against Paul b/c he's so relentless....>Floyd could still beat him...but the chances Paul has are greater than any other talent out there at 147.

[charlievint]

NO SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!


How come Floyd wouldnt make the REAL FIGHT, until Spadafora hit rehab, 3 years later???

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:rofl Calm down there lil guy! You're acting like a broad who just got a shit load of sand in her vagina!:lol: I'm mean...

WE UNDERSTAND YOU ARE UPSET!!!:rofl

You are about a 10 right now.....lets take it down to about a 3. K?:good

[kirk]

you made a very nice post though.... good post.

But honestly... to me, i dont see how a competetive sparring match, with big gloves and headgear, neather being 100%, ect, ect... makes people think that Mayweather ducked paulie.

You make valid points however... i would be interested in why the hell he fought sosa instead.

[kirk]

as for them....

Man look how good they are, spad's speed is awsome... forgot how fast he was. This is world class... regardless.

[Scar]

From Margarito to Spadafora?, this is hilarious. :lol:

[Pimp C]

From Margarito to Spadafora?, this is hilarious. :lol:
:yep :lol:

[BigReg]

What's wrong with you people? This a landmark video. Spadafora got the best of Floyd during a 6 round sparring session, and Floyd never fought him. Why did he duck Spadafora? Because he's scared, he's scared of Spadafora and his 16 KO's in 41 fights. Floyd's lucky that Spadafora is an alcholic, abusive, suicidal drug addict who can't stay out of jail or rehab. Otherwise, they would've definately fought in a real match(assuming Floyd still wasn't haunted from memories of this sparring session) and Spadafora would've shown Floyd what's what. Yo, I heard when Floyd was 10 he got bested by some hotshot 11 yeard old named Cleatus in his grandmother's backyard. Supposedly, the fight is on tape. I'm gonna try to get the footage and post it.

[C Money]

First I would like to say props to you for posting the video I and others doubted that you would come through and Paulie did get the best of him. With that being said this is just sparring you can take it with a grain of salt. It has no bearing on what would happen in a real boxing match and I think you know that as well. Like I've said before Paulie at 135 is no different than Margo at 147, they are both used by PBF haters to try and discredit PBF.


Yeah, sparring is just sparring, but did you read the post?? The timeline and events are ALL FACTUAL and my position has never wavered even in the face of the PBF P4P hype that is widley accepted, BUT RARELY PROVEN!!!!!

The truth is, that this session affected Floyd mentally, he talked mad shit and thought he could beat Spat, the incident in the vegas casino pre-castillo and the REHAB timing of the OFFER are EVIDENT and proof that it wasnt just the "sparring' people would chalk it to be. I left out the NUMEROUS times that Spat called out Floyd in interviews after fights at one point telling Larry merchant " let's see if it was for real in the gym that day".

Margo??:lol: That was simply OFFER BS which floyd is famous for, THIS WAS AN ASS WHOOPING, that PBf couldnt face mentally, BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

[C Money]

You are a fucking idiot.. Floyd did not take Spadafora seriously the WHOLE FIGHT. Not just when he was dancing. He let his gloves down and Paulie was not connecting shit but a few grazing left str8s. Floyd didnt even have the stamina to go 6 rounds in fight that was not even in a fast pace and not using his legs. Anybody that seen any boxing match knows that Floyd was not if fighting shape and WAS FUCKING GOOFING AROUND. HE GOT BEAT ON VIDEO GOOFING AROUND. But this shit should be on americas funniest home videos before being taken seriously on how a real fight would play out. :admin:admin:admin Man this only confirms that Floyd did not take the Spadafora or the sparring seriously leaving his hands down walking str8 in not using any angles. That is floyd fucking goofing around

:lol:

Too Pretty, ya know I dont think you're that bad honestly but PLEASE!!Read the timeline of events in the post, it's ALL TRUE!!

Why did Floyd go looking for Spat?? He just felt like making an ASS of himself?? Why did he talk sooooooooooo much BULLSHIT??? He just wanted to piss the whiteboy off????:lol:

Floyd got beat, plain and simple, and theres too much boxing experience in that family and UNC is present in the VID for them to be so foolish as to throw Floyd to a wolf just before a defense, in poor condition, something Floyd never is, well execept ONCE!!:lol:

Goofing around?? Well WHY THE HELL DID IT TAKE almost 3 YEARS and REHAB before Floyd was willing TO NOT GOOF AROUND?? It wasnt a meaningless fight, it was a CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT and PBF could have UNIFIED rather than BULLSHITTED:good

Read the post, THE FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES and Floyd ducked Spadafora. I mean Floyd talked a lotta shit for 3 years but did NOTHING!!!! Then rehab and here comes Floydie!!:lol: :lol:

[C Money]

you made a very nice post though.... good post.

But honestly... to me, i dont see how a competetive sparring match, with big gloves and headgear, neather being 100%, ect, ect... makes people think that Mayweather ducked paulie.

You make valid points however... i would be interested in why the hell he fought sosa instead.

Kirk,

No one wants to hang their hat on sparring, please dont misunderstand the intentions of the post and VID!! The real point is AFTER SEEING this and reading the FACTUAL TIMELINE OF EVENTS, an objective person must ask themselves, WHY WOULDNT FLOYD MAKE THE REAL FIGHT??
If Spadafora was so inferior, what's the problem?? If PBF was out of shape, playing around, etc, etc, etc, why not UNIFY?? Why did it take almost 3 years and REHAB before that offer came??? This would have been a champioship, unifying, event.

The bottomline is, Floyd knows Spat has no fear of him(despite Floyds best shit talking), the style to give him problems, the heart to be there for 12 full rounds, and the ability to compete:good

Also?? This just exposes at 30 and 35, how Floyd has CHERRY PICKED hsi way to P4P "stardom". Which is what I've always said and WHY I LAUGH MY ASS OFF WHEN PBF CALLS HIMSELF THE BEST OF ALL TIME!!!:lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl :rofl :rofl

Floyd ducked Spat, what would he do if Thomas Hearns were prime and undefeated at 47 right now??:lol: :lol: I bet, we'd never see a real fight!!!

[C Money]

I actually just fully read the post for the first time. If anyone has any questions, READ THE GODDAMN POST! It explains everything. There can be no denying that Floyd ducked him. Whether or not you think he would win, he ducked him. He got his ass whooped sparring, there is NO WAY he just went in there to mess around either, and he didn't want any part of him after that. Read the initial post. GREAT stuff C Money.:good

Thank you Pea!!!

Many of the clowns are exposing themselves by not reading, not thinking, and simply typing the same old BS!! They are groupie ass, dick riders, some(not all) incapable of reasonable or objective thought.

The facts and vid combine to show just how Floyd cherry picked and ducked!! If it werent for Spat whooping floyd's ass in the gym?? PBF may not have even faced Corrales at 30, and he flat out ignored Casa/Freitas:good

[Lacyace]

Floyd ducked everybody and still won 5 titles in 5 different weight classes and is the current welterweight champion! That's amazing IMO.

[C Money]

What's wrong with you people? This a landmark video. Spadafora got the best of Floyd during a 6 round sparring session, and Floyd never fought him. Why did he duck Spadafora? Because he's scared, he's scared of Spadafora and his 16 KO's in 41 fights. Floyd's lucky that Spadafora is an alcholic, abusive, suicidal drug addict who can't stay out of jail or rehab. Otherwise, they would've definately fought in a real match(assuming Floyd still wasn't haunted from memories of this sparring session) and Spadafora would've shown Floyd what's what. Yo, I heard when Floyd was 10 he got bested by some hotshot 11 yeard old named Cleatus in his grandmother's backyard. Supposedly, the fight is on tape. I'm gonna try to get the footage and post it.


Typical BULLSHIT, from a typical dick-riding GROUPIE!!!:lol: Keep polishing the knob BiG Suzy REg!!!

Read the timeline GENIUS!! What happened in floyds CHILDHOOD has no bearing or relevance on what happened at the CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL of his pro career and ADULT LIFE.

You can run from the TRUTH, but YOU CANT HIDE!!! If it hurts??
Too bad!!!:| :| :| :|

And since this is about you're third reply and you still havent read the timeline???:finger :finger

[C Money]

Floyd ducked everybody and still won 5 titles in 5 different weight classes and is the current welterweight champion! That's amazing IMO.

5 titles?? 5 Cherry picked ALPHA TITLES!! No unification:nono :nono :nono

floyd has avoided the top opponents in every division and this is PROOF of that at 35 certainly and the timeline exposes 30 as well:yep :yep

Maybe Floyd is what they say he is, but he hasnt fought the fights that would go a long way towards PROVING IT.

People forget that in today's world of soup belts, the number of Championship's is over inflated anfd over rated:good SRR could have won at least 5-10 titles AND BEING THE KIND OF CHAMPION HE WAS?? would have unified a few as well.

[Lacyace]

5 titles?? 5 Cherry picked ALPHA TITLES!! No unification:nono :nono :nono

floyd has avoided the top opponents in every division and this is PROOF of that at 35 certainly and the timeline exposes 30 as well:yep :yep

Maybe Floyd is what they say he is, but he hasnt fought the fights that would go a long way towards PROVING IT.

People forget that in today's world of soup belts, the number of Championship's is over inflated anfd over rated:good SRR could have won at least 5-10 titles AND BEING THE KIND OF CHAMPION HE WAS?? would have unified a few as well.
LOL @ Spadafora being a top opponent. Can't cherry pick being the 147 champion when you started and your best weight is at 130-135.

If Floyd would've faced this chump and beat him, wouldn't nobody consider that a good win today. That speaks volumes for this Spadafora dude.

[C Money]

he may have sparred with him and clowned around to give Spaddy false confidence so if they ever fought..

Floyd would spank Spaddy..Are you that stupid?


Or maybe Floyd lost confidence and wasnt willing after getting his ass beat, UNTIL SPADAFORA HIT REHAB, THAT IS!!!:lol: :lol:


STFU, bitch, take you're lying, twisting, full of shit ass, and go fondle BITCHTIME's Balls or whoever you're "in love with" TODAY!!!
YOU SUCK, YOU HAVE NO REP(OTHER THAN LOSER), AND YOU'RE A WASTE OF SPACE!!!!!!!

[Fab2333]

After many years, and a lot of speculation based off limited footage, I now present to ESB, Spadafora vs PBF, in it’s entirety. As a side note, I could have sold this or given it to various other sources, but I like Eastside! I’m happy to give its members the first announcement and viewing opportunity. Other sites get plenty of “Hype” but Eastside is where it’s at! .I’m also creating a poll, so we can have an informed vote on whether or not PBF DUCKED SPADAFORA!! Please review the timeline that corresponds with and follow’s this event, watch “sparring session” video, and THEN VOTE!!

The following is the timeline of what transpired:
Starting with PBF vs Genaro Hernandez on October, 3 1998. It’s regarded as a major win and it was for the LINEAL Title at 130. Hernandez was a very good fighter at one point and had a good career, but AT WHAT POINT DID PBF face him?? It was the LAST fight of a 14 year career and? A 6rd KO of DLH had destroyed him previously! GH was an excellent fighter but CLEARLY NOT PRIME, IN ANY SENSE of the word.

Floyd then beats Angel Manfredy in December 19, 1998 and follows up that win wins over Carlos Rios February 17, 1999, ****** Juuko May, 22, 1999, and Carlos Gerena on September 11, 1999. Up to this point?? There had been no indication from PBF, his people, or Arum regarding either Diego Corrales who won the IBF Title on October 23, 1999, Joel Casamayor who won the WBA Interim title(which became official by May 21, 2000) on June 19, 1999, or Acelino Freitas who won the WBO Title on April 2, 1999.

Paul Spadafora then wins the IBF 35 Title in dominant fashion on August 20, 1999. Now, what’s Floyd’s next move?? He goes looking for Spadafora to test the waters at 135, thinking it’s an easy title fight, and the EXCUSE needed to move up without facing either Corrales, Casamayor, or Freitas at 130. The sparring session takes place in the two weeks prior to Spadafora’s first title defense against Renato Cornett on December 17, 1999. As people can now for the first time see, Spadafora gave Floyd plenty of trouble and got the best of him. The athletic supporters with PBF initial’s engraved on their foreheads, who call themselves “PBF Fans”, have long touted the “out of shape” excuse which was quickly brandied by PBF’s camp as a way to justify how such an “IINFERIOR FIGHTER” and “Mediocre Champion” could not only compete, but give Floyd more than he bargained for. Often IGNORED, is why Floyd would go looking for Spadafora when he was “out of shape” and Spat was getting ready to defend?? Why would Uncle Roger, who can clearly be seen there, allow this to happen?? Why was Floyd, who as seen on the 24/7 promotional lead up to DLH talking mad shit to a sparring partner, doing the same routine, as he entered the gym with Spadafora?? Speaking of beating the “white boy” etc, etc, etc? If, he was out of shape, what sense do any of the excuses make?? IT DOESN’T!!!! More importantly, this session and following events show that PBF was interested in moving to 35 and getting out of 30. There’s plenty of parallel between these events and similar handling of events as Floyd transgressed from 140 to 147. The other “famous” sparring session with Zab Judah. The clear difference is, Floyd beat Zab, thus demanding that fight even after Judah lost to Baldomir. Yet, Spadafora beats him and Floyd does everything NOT TO MAKE THE FIGHT!!

So. PBF gets lumped and when asked by Max Kellerman on FNF a short while later about the incident?? Floyd’s face contorts as if he’s constipated and basically shouts, “I don’t wanna talk about Spadafora, I don’t wanna talk about Spadafora”!!! Three months elapse between the sparring session and facing Gregorio Vargas on March 18, 2000. THEN, Floyd moves UP to 35 against Emanuel Augustus on October 21,2000. Now at this point Spadafora’s camp is saying you want it??? YOU GOT IT!!!! Welcome to 135 we got a belt “gift-wrapped and waiting”! No answer from Floyd, just the occasional quotes in various newspaper articles and interviews where Floyd talks of breaking Spadafora’s nose and embarrassing him, but never says YES to an offer or counter-offers!! Then suddenly, the landscape changes!!!! Diego Corrales’s life is spinning out of control in a storm of issues and facing incarceration after a period of time where he had been calling out Floyd to face him at 130. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? .Floyd goes BACK DOWN to 30 in Jan 2001, to face Chico. PBF then stay’s at 130 and faces Carlos Hernandez May 26, 2001, and Jesus Chavez November 10, 2001, which while decent fights?? Weren’t UNIFYING fights!! Casamayor, and Freitas were ignored, and they continued to ignore Spadafora who offered them a title fight at 35, which is CLEARLY WHERE Floyd was headed.

Finally?? 2002 comes and the PBF vs Castillo match up could be made and Floyd jumps on it!! Almost loses the first, wins the second clearly, and it takes all of 2002. The PBF vs Castillo match up was deemed for the Vacant and newly re-instituted Ring Championship. Before one of those fights, PBF and Spadafora cross paths in a casino, where Floyd starts RUNNING HIS MOUTH, again talking a lot of BS. Spadafora reached a point where he’d had enough, takes his shirt off and says, “whats up with right now?” Floyd heads the other way and security homes in to prevent anything from happening. That would seem to make one think that Floyd would then fight Spadafora and collect the IBF belt to go along with the BC and CLEAR UP, the whole “sparring issue” and excuses. But, what does PBF do AFTER THAT?? On April 19, 2003 he fights Sosa, whom Spadafora had already BEAT on March 3, 2000.

Spadafora fought Leonard Dorin in May 17,2003 in an attempt to add the WBA title to his IBF and force Floyd into a Unification event at 135. Spadafora’ problems began to surface in that fight as behind the scenes his personal life was in turmoil. After that point, Spadafora is involved in a shooting incident with his then girlfriend, and hits REHAB with alcohol and drug issues. THEN??? Suddenly, just days after hitting rehab, in comes a lowball offer from Mayweather, to fight Spadafora in Floyd’s hometown of Grand Rapids, Michigan. Spadafora’s camp negotiates for a more neutral location, which was to be New York State, and Spadafora loses his license due to his legal troubles and the fight falls through. Needing rehab to produce an offer? Is a JOKE and a damn SHAME!

The history of Boxing and the greatness of it’s Champions, has always been defined by the best fighting the best and PROVING, not talking, theorizing, and speculating on outcomes. Floyd Mayweather has claimed to be the BEST OF ALL-TIME but has failed to approach the game of boxing with the winning attitude that the real ALL-TIME GREATS have always displayed. Ask yourselves, would guys like SRR or SRL, Hagler, Duran, Whitaker, Chavez, Ali, etc., have accorded themselves in similar manner???
After Hatton?? Let’s hope that Floyd continues to erase past transgressions and walks a path of greatness, rather than retirement, and sensationalism.

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this shit is entirely to long lol. And wow you did all ths research to base ya whole thread on a sparring session wow

[Toopretty]

After many years, and a lot of speculation based off limited footage, I now present to ESB, Spadafora vs PBF, in it’s entirety. As a side note, I could have sold this or given it to various other sources, but I like Eastside! I’m happy to give its members the first announcement and viewing opportunity. Other sites get plenty of “Hype” but Eastside is where it’s at! .I’m also creating a poll, so we can have an informed vote on whether or not PBF DUCKED SPADAFORA!! Please review the timeline that corresponds with and follow’s this event, watch “sparring session” video, and THEN VOTE!!

The following is the timeline of what transpired:
Starting with PBF vs Genaro Hernandez on October, 3 1998. It’s regarded as a major win and it was for the LINEAL Title at 130. Hernandez was a very good fighter at one point and had a good career, but AT WHAT POINT DID PBF face him?? It was the LAST fight of a 14 year career and? A 6rd KO of DLH had destroyed him previously! GH was an excellent fighter but CLEARLY NOT PRIME, IN ANY SENSE of the word.

Floyd then beats Angel Manfredy in December 19, 1998 and follows up that win wins over Carlos Rios February 17, 1999, ****** Juuko May, 22, 1999, and Carlos Gerena on September 11, 1999. Up to this point?? There had been no indication from PBF, his people, or Arum regarding either Diego Corrales who won the IBF Title on October 23, 1999, Joel Casamayor who won the WBA Interim title(which became official by May 21, 2000) on June 19, 1999, or Acelino Freitas who won the WBO Title on April 2, 1999.

Paul Spadafora then wins the IBF 35 Title in dominant fashion on August 20, 1999. Now, what’s Floyd’s next move?? He goes looking for Spadafora to test the waters at 135, thinking it’s an easy title fight, and the EXCUSE needed to move up without facing either Corrales, Casamayor, or Freitas at 130. The sparring session takes place in the two weeks prior to Spadafora’s first title defense against Renato Cornett on December 17, 1999. As people can now for the first time see, Spadafora gave Floyd plenty of trouble and got the best of him. The athletic supporters with PBF initial’s engraved on their foreheads, who call themselves “PBF Fans”, have long touted the “out of shape” excuse which was quickly brandied by PBF’s camp as a way to justify how such an “IINFERIOR FIGHTER” and “Mediocre Champion” could not only compete, but give Floyd more than he bargained for. Often IGNORED, is why Floyd would go looking for Spadafora when he was “out of shape” and Spat was getting ready to defend?? Why would Uncle Roger, who can clearly be seen there, allow this to happen?? Why was Floyd, who as seen on the 24/7 promotional lead up to DLH talking mad shit to a sparring partner, doing the same routine, as he entered the gym with Spadafora?? Speaking of beating the “white boy” etc, etc, etc? If, he was out of shape, what sense do any of the excuses make?? IT DOESN’T!!!! More importantly, this session and following events show that PBF was interested in moving to 35 and getting out of 30. There’s plenty of parallel between these events and similar handling of events as Floyd transgressed from 140 to 147. The other “famous” sparring session with Zab Judah. The clear difference is, Floyd beat Zab, thus demanding that fight even after Judah lost to Baldomir. Yet, Spadafora beats him and Floyd does everything NOT TO MAKE THE FIGHT!!

So. PBF gets lumped and when asked by Max Kellerman on FNF a short while later about the incident?? Floyd’s face contorts as if he’s constipated and basically shouts, “I don’t wanna talk about Spadafora, I don’t wanna talk about Spadafora”!!! Three months elapse between the sparring session and facing Gregorio Vargas on March 18, 2000. THEN, Floyd moves UP to 35 against Emanuel Augustus on October 21,2000. Now at this point Spadafora’s camp is saying you want it??? YOU GOT IT!!!! Welcome to 135 we got a belt “gift-wrapped and waiting”! No answer from Floyd, just the occasional quotes in various newspaper articles and interviews where Floyd talks of breaking Spadafora’s nose and embarrassing him, but never says YES to an offer or counter-offers!! Then suddenly, the landscape changes!!!! Diego Corrales’s life is spinning out of control in a storm of issues and facing incarceration after a period of time where he had been calling out Floyd to face him at 130. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? .Floyd goes BACK DOWN to 30 in Jan 2001, to face Chico. PBF then stay’s at 130 and faces Carlos Hernandez May 26, 2001, and Jesus Chavez November 10, 2001, which while decent fights?? Weren’t UNIFYING fights!! Casamayor, and Freitas were ignored, and they continued to ignore Spadafora who offered them a title fight at 35, which is CLEARLY WHERE Floyd was headed.

Finally?? 2002 comes and the PBF vs Castillo match up could be made and Floyd jumps on it!! Almost loses the first, wins the second clearly, and it takes all of 2002. The PBF vs Castillo match up was deemed for the Vacant and newly re-instituted Ring Championship. Before one of those fights, PBF and Spadafora cross paths in a casino, where Floyd starts RUNNING HIS MOUTH, again talking a lot of BS. Spadafora reached a point where he’d had enough, takes his shirt off and says, “whats up with right now?” Floyd heads the other way and security homes in to prevent anything from happening. That would seem to make one think that Floyd would then fight Spadafora and collect the IBF belt to go along with the BC and CLEAR UP, the whole “sparring issue” and excuses. But, what does PBF do AFTER THAT?? On April 19, 2003 he fights Sosa, whom Spadafora had already BEAT on March 3, 2000.

Spadafora fought Leonard Dorin in May 17,2003 in an attempt to add the WBA title to his IBF and force Floyd into a Unification event at 135. Spadafora’ problems began to surface in that fight as behind the scenes his personal life was in turmoil. After that point, Spadafora is involved in a shooting incident with his then girlfriend, and hits REHAB with alcohol and drug issues. THEN??? Suddenly, just days after hitting rehab, in comes a lowball offer from Mayweather, to fight Spadafora in Floyd’s hometown of Grand Rapids, Michigan. Spadafora’s camp negotiates for a more neutral location, which was to be New York State, and Spadafora loses his license due to his legal troubles and the fight falls through. Needing rehab to produce an offer? Is a JOKE and a damn SHAME!

The history of Boxing and the greatness of it’s Champions, has always been defined by the best fighting the best and PROVING, not talking, theorizing, and speculating on outcomes. Floyd Mayweather has claimed to be the BEST OF ALL-TIME but has failed to approach the game of boxing with the winning attitude that the real ALL-TIME GREATS have always displayed. Ask yourselves, would guys like SRR or SRL, Hagler, Duran, Whitaker, Chavez, Ali, etc., have accorded themselves in similar manner???
After Hatton?? Let’s hope that Floyd continues to erase past transgressions and walks a path of greatness, rather than retirement, and sensationalism.

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Yo this timeline shit is all speculation bullshit.. look at C moneys wording..Spadafora won the 135 title in dominate fashion..and Floyd went on to Fight CHICO b/c he was ducking Spadafora in 2000

now fucking stop right there:think:think:think:think:think:think:think:think anyone who was in to boxing around that time knows the deal......Chico was winning all of his fights knocking motherfuckers out .....Spadafora eeking close descisions and going to war with lesser caliber fighters. So if you fight chico then you are ducking spadafora...WOW........WOW..........this is the first of many breakdowns of this dumb ass opinionated assessment.

[Butch Coolidge]

Sparring is sparring not competition. I can't see Mayweather allowing anybody to make him look bad, even in sparring, but that might be the case. He could have been concentrating on certain techniques. It's really difficult to tell and a lot of it depends on the fighter's attitude and how far along he is in training. I don't allow this video to influence my judgement too much but it did make me rethink what his fight vs Hatton could be like.

[C Money]

LOL @ Spadafora being a top opponent. Can't cherry pick being the 147 champion when you started and your best weight is at 130-135.

If Floyd would've faced this chump and beat him wouldn't nobody consider that a good win today. That speaks volumes for this Spadafora dude.

:lol:

Cant cherry pick being 147 Champ?? What planet you been on??:lol:

Let's see, PBF moves to 47 with the sole purpose of beating Zab(who floyd bested in sparring) then insists on Zab even after he lost to Baldo. Floyd then ALMOST'S SKIPS BAldo, actually announcing plans to fight Spinks at 54 then retract's it under PUBLIC PRESSURE to capture the "lineal" title at 47, which floyd succeed's in doing!!!


HOW MANY TIMES HAS FLOYD DEFENDED THAT DISTINCTION??

:lol: :lol: :lol:

We're "Still Waiting" like Johnny Gill:rofl

Perhaps, someday he will, but ONLY IF SSM beats Cotto, bet on that!!!:yep :yep :yep

[Toopretty]

Another tidbit for any other supposed conspiracy theorist. WHY DIDNT SPADAFORA FIGHT ANY TOP 135 FIGHTER. JOHNSTON CASTILLO ETC ETC. WHY TARGET ONLY PBF IF YOU ARE THIS GREAT OF FIGHTER ..LOL

[pit]

All I saw was floyd Gass out after 3 rounds and become a stationary target.
after round 4 floyd had nothing left.

[C Money]

Yo this timeline shit is all speculation bullshit.. look at C moneys wording..Spadafora won the 135 title in dominate fashion..and Floyd went on to Fight CHICO b/c he was ducking Spadafora in 2000

now fucking stop right there:think:think:think:think:think:think:think:think anyone who was in to boxing around that time knows the deal......Chico was winning all of his fights knocking motherfuckers out .....Spadafora eeking close descisions and going to war with lesser caliber fighters. So if you fight chico then you are ducking spadafora...WOW........WOW..........this is the first of many breakdowns of this dumb ass opinionated assessment.


You didnt break down shit!!:lol: It's TRUE!!

So. PBF gets lumped and when asked by Max Kellerman on FNF a short while later about the incident?? Floyd’s face contorts as if he’s constipated and basically shouts, “I don’t wanna talk about Spadafora, I don’t wanna talk about Spadafora”!!! Three months elapse between the sparring session and facing Gregorio Vargas on March 18, 2000. THEN, Floyd moves UP to 35 against Emanuel Augustus on October 21,2000. Now at this point Spadafora’s camp is saying you want it??? YOU GOT IT!!!! Welcome to 135 we got a belt “gift-wrapped and waiting”! No answer from Floyd, just the occasional quotes in various newspaper articles and interviews where Floyd talks of breaking Spadafora’s nose and embarrassing him, but never says YES to an offer or counter-offers!! Then suddenly, the landscape changes!!!! Diego Corrales’s life is spinning out of control in a storm of issues and facing incarceration after a period of time where he had been calling out Floyd to face him at 130. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? .Floyd goes BACK DOWN to 30 in Jan 2001, to face Chico. PBF then stay’s at 130 and faces Carlos Hernandez May 26, 2001, and Jesus Chavez November 10, 2001, which while decent fights?? Weren’t UNIFYING fights!! Casamayor, and Freitas were ignored, and they continued to ignore Spadafora who offered them a title fight at 35, which is CLEARLY WHERE Floyd was headed.


Got reading comprehension skills???

[Toopretty]

So As I Said A Million Times...lol If This Fight Was In 12/1999 This Was 3 Months After Floyds Last Fight And 3 Months Before His Next Fight. Isnt This Considered The Off Time For A Boxer:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl SO YOU TELLING ME FLOYD BEEN IN THE RING TRAINING FOR A FIGHT LIKE SPADAFORA WAS CLEARLY DOING PRIOR TO FLOYDS TAUNTING. YEAH FLOYD UNDERESTIMATED HIM AND THOUGHT HE COULD JUST GO IN THERE AND TOY WITH THE WHITE BOY IN SHAPE OR NOT. NOT EVEN IN FLOYDS TOUGHEST FIGHTS WAS HE GASED OUT AFTER SIX ROUNDS REELING ON THE GROUND. :patsch :patsch :patsch :patsch FUNNY GUYS ON HERE THOUGH

[Lacyace]

:lol:
Cant cherry pick being 147 Champ?? What planet you been on??:lol:

Let's see, PBF moves to 47 with the sole purpose of beating Zab(who floyd bested in sparring) then insists on Zab even after he lost to Baldo. Floyd then ALMOST'S SKIPS BAldo, actually announcing plans to fight Spinks at 54 then retract's it under PUBLIC PRESSURE to capture the "lineal" title at 47, which floyd succeed's in doing!!!
What actually happened? Floyd didn't 'almost' skip Baldomir, he fought him and won. I'm sure if Floyd wouldn't have went against Judah, you would have a bunch of idiots claiming he was ducking him too or whatever but Floyd fought him anyway. He won that too. Even if he did go up to fight Spinks, Spinks is a former welterweight champion and 154 titlist. That is not cherry-picking!

You're holding onto sparring sessions like the exact same thing is going to happen inside the ring at real fight time. You can't do it.

[stilltharow]

this is only sparring !!! whats the big deal !

[C Money]

Another tidbit for any other supposed conspiracy theorist. WHY DIDNT SPADAFORA FIGHT ANY TOP 135 FIGHTER. JOHNSTON CASTILLO ETC ETC. WHY TARGET ONLY PBF IF YOU ARE THIS GREAT OF FIGHTER ..LOL

:lol:

Keep trying we been down this road!!!

They tried to make Castillo vs Spadafora, but were haggling over money when PBF came along in 2002 with Arum/HBO backing and then what happened??

How come PBF didnt fight Spat afterwards???


You cant hide, too pretty, ya just cant hide:nono

[Toopretty]

You didnt break down shit!!:lol: It's TRUE!!

So. PBF gets lumped and when asked by Max Kellerman on FNF a short while later about the incident?? Floyd’s face contorts as if he’s constipated and basically shouts, “I don’t wanna talk about Spadafora, I don’t wanna talk about Spadafora”!!! Three months elapse between the sparring session and facing Gregorio Vargas on March 18, 2000. THEN, Floyd moves UP to 35 against Emanuel Augustus on October 21,2000. Now at this point Spadafora’s camp is saying you want it??? YOU GOT IT!!!! Welcome to 135 we got a belt “gift-wrapped and waiting”! No answer from Floyd, just the occasional quotes in various newspaper articles and interviews where Floyd talks of breaking Spadafora’s nose and embarrassing him, but never says YES to an offer or counter-offers!! Then suddenly, the landscape changes!!!! Diego Corrales’s life is spinning out of control in a storm of issues and facing incarceration after a period of time where he had been calling out Floyd to face him at 130. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? .Floyd goes BACK DOWN to 30 in Jan 2001, to face Chico. PBF then stay’s at 130 and faces Carlos Hernandez May 26, 2001, and Jesus Chavez November 10, 2001, which while decent fights?? Weren’t UNIFYING fights!! Casamayor, and Freitas were ignored, and they continued to ignore Spadafora who offered them a title fight at 35, which is CLEARLY WHERE Floyd was headed.


Got reading comprehension skills???





DO YOU GOT BOXING COMPREHENSION SKILLS ALL THIS LIFE REELING OUT OF CONTROL SHIT. AINT THIS THE SPADAFORA STORY..FLOYD FIGHTING CHICO AT 130(IN ANY CONDITION FLU, DISASTER RAIN SLEET HAIL STORM) VS FLOYD FIGHTING SPADAFORA AT 135 IS A FUCKING NO BRAINER. LOOK WHAT CHICO ACCOMPLISHED BEFORE DURING AND AFTER HIS TURMOIL...WHY DIDNT SPADAFORA FIGHT ANY TOP FIGHTERS AT 135 ANSWER FUCKING THAT OR DO YOU STILL HAVE BOXING COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY TO DO SO:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[C Money]

What actually happened? Floyd didn't 'almost' skip Baldomir, he fought him and won. I'm sure if Floyd wouldn't have went against Judah, you would have a bunch of idiots claiming he was ducking him too or whatever but Floyd fought him anyway. He won that too. Even if he did go up to fight Spinks, Spinks is a former welterweight champion and 154 titlist. That is not cherry-picking!

You're holding onto sparring sessions like the exact same thing is going to happen inside the ring at real fight time. You can't do it.


First?? YES he did ALMOST not fight Baldo!! I said he won but where's the defense's at??:lol: :lol: Spinks?? Had Floyd done that?? he would have went TWO STRAIGHT DIVISION's without becoming CHAMP. You're objections are swiss cheese:good

Plus?? If you read, it aint about SPARRING!!! It's about WHY WOULDNT FLOYD MAKE THE REAL FIGHT BASED ON THE SPARRING???

WHY DID IT TAKE ALMOST 3 YEARS and REAHB for an OFFER???

:lol:

[Toopretty]

:lol:

Keep trying we been down this road!!!

They tried to make Castillo vs Spadafora, but were haggling over money when PBF came along in 2002 with Arum/HBO backing and then what happened??

How come PBF didnt fight Spat afterwards???


You cant hide, too pretty, ya just cant hide:nono





:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: CLASSIC SHIT RIGHT HERE. ....SPADAFORA HAGGLING OVER MONEY WITH CASTILLO....LOL A FIGHTER THAT FIGHTS FOR CHUMP CHANGE.:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl I BET FLOYD GOT PAID MORE THEN HIM..:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl NAH BRAH.....NAHHHHHHHHH THE FIGHT WAS NEVER IN THE FUCKING MAKING...BACK THAT SHIT UP....LOL....SO SPADAFORA JUST BY CIRCUMSTANCE NEVER WAS ABLE TO LAND A FIGHT OF THE TOP FIGHTERS AT 130-135 EVEN THE ONES THAT MOVED UP FROM 130 ...LOL...KEEP IT COMING..YOU TRY AGAIN..YOUR CONSPIRACY HOMIE......THAT SHIT AINT FACT..ITS BULLSHIT TO THE HIGHEST ORDER...LOL....I GUESS YOU SPEAK SPANISH AND KNOW THE CASTILLO CAMP HUH.........:rofl:rofl:rofl

[C Money]

DO YOU GOT BOXING COMPREHENSION SKILLS ALL THIS LIFE REELING OUT OF CONTROL SHIT. AINT THIS THE SPADAFORA STORY..FLOYD FIGHTING CHICO AT 130(IN ANY CONDITION FLU, DISASTER RAIN SLEET HAIL STORM) VS FLOYD FIGHTING SPADAFORA AT 135 IS A FUCKING NO BRAINER. LOOK WHAT CHICO ACCOMPLISHED BEFORE DURING AND AFTER HIS TURMOIL...WHY DIDNT SPADAFORA FIGHT ANY TOP FIGHTERS AT 135 ANSWER FUCKING THAT OR DO YOU STILL HAVE BOXING COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY TO DO SO:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

:lol:

I suppose you arent aware of Chico's incarceration and ISSUES that were KNOWN and PENDING when Floyd faced him??? I make no excuses for Chico losing, with his style?? He'd lose to PBF 999 times out of 1000, but it was the TIMING of that fight that allowed PBF to deflect Spadafora at 35.

HAD FLOYD BEAT SPAT THAT DAY IN 99?? What do you think was gonna happen next??? The fact that they moved up to 35 11 months later, tells the story!!!:rofl :rofl

Why did Floyd go back down to 30 after moving to 35??:lol:

Like i said, you can talk the talk, but can you WALK THE WALK??

That's the shit that counts!!!!!!

[Toopretty]

:lol:

I suppose you arent aware of Chico's incarceration and ISSUES that were KNOWN and PENDING when Floyd faced him??? I make no excuses for Chico losing, with his style?? He'd lose to PBF 999 times out of 1000, but it was the TIMING of that fight that allowed PBF to deflect Spadafora at 35.

HAD FLOYD BEAT SPAT THAT DAY IN 99?? What do you think was gonna happen next??? The fact that they moved up to 35 11 months later, tells the story!!!:rofl :rofl

Why did Floyd go back down to 30 after moving to 35??:lol:

Like i said, you can talk the talk, but can you WALK THE WALK??

That's the shit that counts!!!!!!


SO I GUESS YOU ARE NOT COUNTING FLOYDS ISSUES...LOL..THAT HE WAS HAVING DEATH THREATS BY HIS PROMOTER PRINCE AND HE WAS SENDING GOONS TO MAYWEATHERS GYM AND THEY SUPPOSEDLY BEAT UP ELLERBE. FLOYD WAS OUT OF THE RING AND NOT IN SHAPE WHEN HE TOOK THE AUGUSTUS FIGHT AFTER A LONG ASS LAYOFF..THAT SHIT AINT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SPADAFORA...FLOYD HAD WELL DOCUMENTED PROMOTER PROBLEMS....SO GO ELSWHERE WITH THAT SHIT...TELL THE WHOLE STORY..LIKE FLOYDS WORLD REVOLVED AROUND SPADAFORA...FLOYD FOUGHT AT 135 B/C HE HAD TROUBLE MAKING 130 BUT WAS STILL A 130 PD FIGHTER...LIKE FLOYD DIDNT HAVE DISTRACTIONS DURING THAT SAME TIME PERIOD...WOW YOU AMAZE ME:rofl:rofl:rofl

[C Money]

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: CLASSIC SHIT RIGHT HERE. ....SPADAFORA HAGGLING OVER MONEY WITH CASTILLO....LOL A FIGHTER THAT FIGHTS FOR CHUMP CHANGE.:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl I BET FLOYD GOT PAID MORE THEN HIM..:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl NAH BRAH.....NAHHHHHHHHH THE FIGHT WAS NEVER IN THE FUCKING MAKING...BACK THAT SHIT UP....LOL....SO SPADAFORA JUST BY CIRCUMSTANCE NEVER WAS ABLE TO LAND A FIGHT OF THE TOP FIGHTERS AT 130-135 EVEN THE ONES THAT MOVED UP FROM 130 ...LOL...KEEP IT COMING..YOU TRY AGAIN..YOUR CONSPIRACY HOMIE......THAT SHIT AINT FACT..ITS BULLSHIT TO THE HIGHEST ORDER...LOL....I GUESS YOU SPEAK SPANISH AND KNOW THE CASTILLO CAMP HUH.........:rofl:rofl:rofl


Damn homie!!! You're going ine reverse at WARP SPEED!!!:lol:

Check it BRAH....you talk conspiracy and BS, I have laid down facts and EVIDENCE, wasnt for me?? You're ass wouldnt have seen this VID!!! Yet, IGNORANCE IS BLISS, and PBF fans would rather have it that way.
Castillo's camp damn well did have discussions with Spadafora's promoter. You cant handle it?? That's you're problem!!!

You aint making a fool of me, you make a fool of yourself, my rep is solid and has DELIVERED!!! Some may not like it, or me, and that's FINE but I am legit:yep :yep :yep

[Toopretty]

Damn homie!!! You're going ine reverse at WARP SPEED!!!:lol:

Check it BRAH....you talk conspiracy and BS, I have laid down facts and EVIDENCE, wasnt for me?? You're ass wouldnt have seen this VID!!! Yet, IGNORANCE IS BLISS, and PBF fans would rather have it that way.
Castillo's camp damn well did have discussions with Spadafora's promoter. You cant handle it?? That's you're problem!!!

You aint making a fool of me, you make a fool of yourself, my rep is solid and has DELIVERED!!! Some may not like it, or me, and that's FINE but I am legit:yep :yep :yep

Thats why spadafora never fought any of the top competition ...Oh I get it now....they were all ducking him....Ok..you proved that point...by saying castillo's camp and spadaforas camp were in discussions..wow, you say it, it is fact...lol :tired:tired:tired:tired:tired:tired:tired

[C Money]

SO I GUESS YOU ARE NOT COUNTING FLOYDS ISSUES...LOL..THAT HE WAS HAVING DEATH THREATS BY HIS PROMOTER PRINCE AND HE WAS SENDING GOONS TO MAYWEATHERS GYM AND THEY SUPPOSEDLY BEAT UP ELLERBE. FLOYD WAS OUT OF THE RING AND NOT IN SHAPE WHEN HE TOOK THE AUGUSTUS FIGHT AFTER A LONG ASS LAYOFF..THAT SHIT AINT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SPADAFORA...FLOYD HAD WELL DOCUMENTED PROMOTER PROBLEMS....SO GO ELSWHERE WITH THAT SHIT...TELL THE WHOLE STORY..LIKE FLOYDS WORLD REVOLVED AROUND SPADAFORA...FLOYD FOUGHT AT 135 B/C HE HAD TROUBLE MAKING 130 BUT WAS STILL A 130 PD FIGHTER...LIKE FLOYD DIDNT HAVE DISTRACTIONS DURING THAT SAME TIME PERIOD...WOW YOU AMAZE ME:rofl:rofl:rofl


:lol:

Had trouble making 30, huh?? Thanks man, you JUST ILLUSTRATED THE FACT THAT HE DUCKED SPADAFORA EVEN MORE!!! He stayed at 30 an extra year, why was that???:good As for Floyd's problems??:lol: Please, whats worse someone making threats(To which floyd had the $$$$$ for security and CONNECTS:lol: ) OR sobriety issues and INCARCERATION???:rofl :rofl


Welcome to 135 we got a belt “gift-wrapped and waiting”! No answer from Floyd, just the occasional quotes in various newspaper articles and interviews where Floyd talks of breaking Spadafora’s nose and embarrassing him, but never says YES to an offer or counter-offers!! Then suddenly, the landscape changes!!!! Diego Corrales’s life is spinning out of control in a storm of issues and facing incarceration after a period of time where he had been calling out Floyd to face him at 130. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? .Floyd goes BACK DOWN to 30 in Jan 2001, to face Chico. PBF then stay’s at 130 and faces Carlos Hernandez May 26, 2001, and Jesus Chavez November 10, 2001, which while decent fights?? Weren’t UNIFYING fights!!

[C Money]

Thats why spadafora never fought any of the top competition ...Oh I get it now....they were all ducking him....Ok..you proved that point...by saying castillo's camp and spadaforas camp were in discussions..wow, you say it, it is fact...lol :tired:tired:tired:tired:tired:tired:tired


I've backed up what I'VE SAID!!! What have you done??? Talk mor gibberish???:yep :yep :yep

Again, i know what happened and there were discussions as Castillo, unlike Floyd wanted to UNIFY!!!!! He wanted to stake his own lightweight claim and not just be known as JCC's 'sparring partner" but the next great mexican Champ in his own right.

Too pretty, It's fine to support ya man, but all you can do is talk of the future!!!! The past is the past, thet truth is the truth, and it's right before you're EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Toopretty]

:lol:

Had trouble making 30, huh?? Thanks man, you JUST ILLUSTRATED THE FACT THAT HE DUCKED SPADAFORA EVEN MORE!!! He stayed at 30 an extra year, why was that???:good As for Floyd's problems??:lol: Please, whats worse someone making threats(To which floyd had the $$$$$ for security and CONNECTS:lol: ) OR sobriety issues and INCARCERATION???:rofl :rofl




Ok floyd had the money for security back then..wutf ever...get a grip..you are a clown..you should write a book on the spadafora story..Floyd had NO promoter during this time. I forgot who promoted the augustus fight but it wasnt a big fight it was a step back for floyd. He had trouble making the weight do to the inactivity. lol I mean if you post some shit ..post both sides...you are posting the "Spadafora story" lol...thats one side..there was other shit going on..Do you know Floyd owed prince money ..lol he wanted out of his contract and refused to fight..Do you know who the fuck prince is...lol do you know that floyd had to run and sign with Arum just so Arum can pay back prince..lol..This was Floyd going through his downside..Yeah Spadafora really made a statement in boxing. If Spadafora would of beaten any top or good fighter your whole bullshit theory would hold weight. But if floyd fought better fighters then him before and after..then this is bullshit....

[Toopretty]

I've backed up what I'VE SAID!!! What have you done??? Talk mor gibberish???:yep :yep :yep

Again, i know what happened and there were discussions as Castillo, unlike Floyd wanted to UNIFY!!!!! He wanted to stake his own lightweight claim and not just be known as JCC's 'sparring partner" but the next great mexican Champ in his own right.

Too pretty, It's fine to support ya man, but all you can do is talk of the future!!!! The past is the past, thet truth is the truth, and it's right before you're EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He was already the lightweight champ...the real one at that:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch

[C Money]

this shit is entirely to long lol. And wow you did all ths research to base ya whole thread on a sparring session wow


How come no real fight??


I mean WOW!! Like WOW!!! MAN............:lol: :lol: :lol:

Why 3 years and REHAB!!!


HOLY WOW!!! WOW MAN!!!!!!!!!


better flash that fine booty in the sky emblem and call for back up!!!


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[C Money]

All I saw was floyd Gass out after 3 rounds and become a stationary target.
after round 4 floyd had nothing left.


But how come we never saw the REAL THING????:lol:

I mean, floyd would have killed him, right????

:rofl

[Lacyace]

First?? YES he did ALMOST not fight Baldo!! I said he won but where's the defense's at??:lol: :lol: Spinks?? Had Floyd done that?? he would have went TWO STRAIGHT DIVISION's without becoming CHAMP. You're objections are swiss cheese:good
You aren't serious. Beating the best competition will always be held higher than becoming champion. Especially when you are fighting guys that are much bigger and just as fast...i.e. Cory Spinks or maybe even De La Hoya. Who cares they weren't Ring Champions? There isn't even a 154 pound Ring champion. Pacman's not even a ring champion.

Plus?? If you read, it aint about SPARRING!!! It's about WHY WOULDNT FLOYD MAKE THE REAL FIGHT BASED ON THE SPARRING???

WHY DID IT TAKE ALMOST 3 YEARS and REAHB for an OFFER???
:lol:
Because the sparring session was a joke. Floyd wasn't even close to being half of what he is at Ring time. Spadafora would've got his ass kicked.

[C Money]

Ok floyd had the money for security back then..wutf ever...get a grip..you are a clown..you should write a book on the spadafora story..Floyd had NO promoter during this time. I forgot who promoted the augustus fight but it wasnt a big fight it was a step back for floyd. He had trouble making the weight do to the inactivity. lol I mean if you post some shit ..post both sides...you are posting the "Spadafora story" lol...thats one side..there was other shit going on..Do you know Floyd owed prince money ..lol he wanted out of his contract and refused to fight..Do you know who the fuck prince is...lol do you know that floyd had to run and sign with Arum just so Arum can pay back prince..lol..This was Floyd going through his downside..Yeah Spadafora really made a statement in boxing. If Spadafora would of beaten any top or good fighter your whole bullshit theory would hold weight. But if floyd fought better fighters then him before and after..then this is bullshit....


:lol:

You crazy, partner!!! Floyd wasnt BROKE, EVER!!!! Even back to amateurs, it was always BLING, Clothes, gee where'd all the cars come from even back in early pro day's???

Ok, you convinced us Floyd's scared of prince too!!

As for inactivity?? PBF fought Gerena 9/99, sparred Spat 12/99 fought G. Vargas in March 2000 and Augustus in 10/2000, I guess six months is FOREVER INACTIVE in FLOYDLAND:lol:

[C Money]

He was already the lightweight champ...the real one at that:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch

Real one?? :lol: Why?? the belts werent unified!!

Castillo beat Johnston, but SSM vacated and Spat won that belt!! There is no difference between org belts:nono Beating the CHAMPS makes a REAL CHAMP!!!!!!!

Cant blame Castillo for trying, it's floyd that we question:patsch :patsch :patsch

[C Money]

You aren't serious. Beating the best competition will always be held higher than becoming champion. Especially when you are fighting guys that are much bigger and just as fast...i.e. Cory Spinks or maybe even De La Hoya. Who cares they weren't Ring Champions? There isn't even a 154 pound Ring champion. Pacman's not even a ring champion.


Because the sparring session was a joke. Floyd wasn't even close to being half of what he is at Ring time. Spadafora would've got his ass kicked.

:lol: please think before ya type!!!

Judah was not Champ or the best fighter at 47!!! When floyd fought him!!! Had PBF moved up at that point as intended??? He would have done SHIT at 47, not be champ, not fight the best opp!!!


I dont give a damn, if you think the session was a JOKE!! I think YOU are a joke, but yet??? WHY WOULDNT PBF MAKE AN OFFER for 3 years and until Spadafora hit REHAB!!! It would have been a unifying fight and facts trump speculation and BS!!

Floyd got lumped and didnt wanna try the real thing:good

[fwhite]

Got to admit it PBF nuthuggers. Floyd got his ass kicked. It's Probably the worst ass whippin he ever got. Looked like a puppy laying on his back with his tounge hanging out.:nut Finally the world gets to see a beatin up Floyd Mayweather. It's actually pretty hilarious with his big mouth and all. :good

[digiram]

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

The haters are so desperate to see Floyd get his ass whoop that a sparring session is acceptable.

Have at it, I guess.

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[charlievint]

It really doesn't matter b/c Spaddy hasn't done much of anything besides hold his own in a Sparring session with the P4P king. He beat the likes of Dorin...BARLEY. And a close, close fight with Victorian a guy who Floyd destroyed.

Spaddy is highly skilled and a tough puzzle to figure out, but that's to the good boxers....>Guys like Floyd, DLH, and Shane are on anther level and Spaddy is proably right in the middle of good and Great (in terms of his skills).

Point is there was no reason to fight a guy like Spaddy for a few reasons....one...spaddy is a Risk with NO reward. He's a risk to floyd b/c it would have proably been one HELL of a boring fight...Spaddys only exciting fight was with Dorin and Sosa (which wasn't that exciiting)

2...Spaddy didn't bring anything to the table..no name and no money...he did have a belt...But what's one belt to Floyd who at the time had a more than a few???

And 3.....Floyd had his schedule BOOKED from 99 to present with fights that were far more lucrative and demanded by the boxing world. The fight just didn't make sense to anyone but Spaddy and his camp.

[fwhite]

It really doesn't matter b/c Spaddy hasn't done much of anything besides hold his own in a Sparring session with the P4P king. He beat the likes of Dorin...BARLEY. And a close, close fight with Victorian a guy who Floyd destroyed.

Spaddy is highly skilled and a tough puzzle to figure out, but that's to the good boxers....>Guys like Floyd, DLH, and Shane are on anther level and Spaddy is proably right in the middle of good and Great (in terms of his skills).

Point is there was no reason to fight a guy like Spaddy for a few reasons....one...spaddy is a Risk with NO reward. He's a risk to floyd b/c it would have proably been one HELL of a boring fight...Spaddys only exciting fight was with Dorin and Sosa (which wasn't that exciiting)

2...Spaddy didn't bring anything to the table..no name and no money...he did have a belt...But what's one belt to Floyd who at the time had a more than a few???

And 3.....Floyd had his schedule BOOKED from 99 to present with fights that were far more lucrative and demanded by the boxing world. The fight just didn't make sense to anyone but Spaddy and his camp.

just saying he got his ass kicked, that's all. As far as fighting him. He doesn't need money. Shut everybody up and fight him. for free even.

[BigReg]

Typical BULLSHIT, from a typical dick-riding GROUPIE!!!:lol: Keep polishing the knob BiG Suzy REg!!!

Read the timeline GENIUS!! What happened in floyds CHILDHOOD has no bearing or relevance on what happened at the CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL of his pro career and ADULT LIFE.

You can run from the TRUTH, but YOU CANT HIDE!!! If it hurts??
Too bad!!!:| :| :| :|

And since this is about you're third reply and you still havent read the timeline???:finger :finger

Good point, but I guess a sparring session, or an altercation at a casino does. Listen man, you keep spending your time living in the past, and pulling up old useless videos. I'm sure you're proud of all the hard work you've put into it. I'm pretty sure Floyd fans all over the world are in shock now that you "exposed" Floyd. I don't know how I can ever root for the guy now, knowing he ducked future Hall of Famer Paul Spadafora

[charlievint]

what did Sosa bring? someone Spaddy had already beatin.

answer that

Good point! But Sosa style wasn't as difficult for Floyd and Sosa still had a more recognizable name than Paul, even after his loss. The Risk was far less and the reward for beating a guy like Sosa or Paul would be the exact same.

[charlievint]

just saying he got his ass kicked, that's all. As far as fighting him. He doesn't need money. Shut everybody up and fight him. for free even.

Who got their ass kicked? It looked as if both men had their spots in the sparring session and Spaddy was in prime fighting shape at the time b/c he had a fight comming up....floyd on the other had was 3 months out of his last fight and didn't even start trainign camp for his upcoming fight that was around 90 days out at the time.

[fwhite]

Who got their ass kicked? It looked as if both men had their spots in the sparring session and Spaddy was in prime fighting shape at the time b/c he had a fight comming up....floyd on the other had was 3 months out of his last fight and didn't even start trainign camp for his upcoming fight that was around 90 days out at the time.

He got his ass kicked. He's not going in a sparring match with a champion at the time out of shape. In the end his body was hurting. down and out!!!:tired

[bigtime9]

BITCHTIME, you'll never understand that YOU ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK of ESB, will you??


a laughing stock is someone who would go through all this trouble to prove a point based of a sparring video.

too dumb for stupid. and guess what floyd is still richer than spaddy's whole family combined, and we can even through in six generations of your family for good measure.:deal



You got NOTHING!! No five masters degrees, no boxing experience, no connections, NO BALLS, and no credentials that mean a god damn thing!! Just BS, hot air, and too much time on you're hands:yep

The joke's on you:good




and what is your career mr. golden gloves champion. :blood I see you have connections with the felon spadafora, is he your meal ticket.:rofl are you trying to resurrect his career by using floyd's name:lol:


AND YOUR VIDEO IS FAKE:deal EVERYONE IN BOXING KNOWS THAT FLOYD DOES NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO VIDEOTAPE HIS SPARRING SESSIONS. SPADAFORA USED A FIGHTER WHO WAS MIMICKING FLOYDS STYLE (SAME WAY OSCAR USED SHANE:deal )

[fwhite]

a laughing stock is someone who would go through all this trouble to prove a point based of a sparring video.

too dumb for stupid. and guess what floyd is still richer than spaddy's whole family combined, and we can even through in six generations of your family for good measure.:deal




and what is your career mr. golden gloves champion. :blood I see you have connections with the felon spadafora, is he your meal ticket.:rofl are you trying to resurrect his career by using floyd's name:lol:


AND YOUR VIDEO IS FAKE:deal EVERYONE IN BOXING KNOWS THAT FLOYD DOES NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO VIDEOTAPE HIS SPARRING SESSIONS. SPADAFORA USED A FIGHTER WHO WAS MIMICKING FLOYDS STYLE (SAME WAY OSCAR USED SHANE:deal )

Now you're getting desperate. Not FAKE. Sorry, Floyd got his ass kicked.

[charlievint]

He got his ass kicked. He's not going in a sparring match with a champion at the time out of shape. In the end his body was hurting. down and out!!!:tired

lol....he was Tired man....it's not easy going one round of sparring let alone 6. And Floyd wasn't in fighting shape...if he was you'd wouldn't see him laying on the canvas after the session.

[bigtime9]

Now you're getting desperate

naw, that would be you:rofl did you see floyd's face in the video:lol: do you know why floyd doesn't allow anyone to video his sparring sessions:deal

[fwhite]

naw, that would be you:rofl did you see floyd's face in the video:lol: do you know why floyd doesn't allow anyone to video his sparring sessions:deal

I guess that wasn't his uncle in the corner either. Just accept it, you're in denial. He is human after all. And answer to your question. Yes I do know why? He stopped after his ass whippin from Spadafora. peace.:bbb

[fwhite]

lol....he was Tired man....it's not easy going one round of sparring let alone 6. And Floyd wasn't in fighting shape...if he was you'd wouldn't see him laying on the canvas after the session.

He still was laying on the canvas from body punches. PBF been boxing all of his life. I think he would know not to spar that long out of shape. All your doing is insulting his judgement.:rasta

[C Money]

a laughing stock is someone who would go through all this trouble to prove a point based of a sparring video.

too dumb for stupid. and guess what floyd is still richer than spaddy's whole family combined, and we can even through in six generations of your family for good measure.:deal




and what is your career mr. golden gloves champion. :blood I see you have connections with the felon spadafora, is he your meal ticket.:rofl are you trying to resurrect his career by using floyd's name:lol:


AND YOUR VIDEO IS FAKE:deal EVERYONE IN BOXING KNOWS THAT FLOYD DOES NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO VIDEOTAPE HIS SPARRING SESSIONS. SPADAFORA USED A FIGHTER WHO WAS MIMICKING FLOYDS STYLE (SAME WAY OSCAR USED SHANE:deal )


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BITCHTIME

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

YOU ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF ESB!!!!!!

Fake???:lol: :lol: :lol: THAT's YOU BITCH!! Fake as a 3 dollar bill:good

It's absolutely no secret and yes BITCHTIME the video is REAL!! Unc Rog is in the corner and it corresponds with the previous highlites that were released shortly after it happened!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

Floyd and camp never denied it, how could they?? I suppose everyone in the gym who watched and all the trainers were fake and all told the same LIE, huh??

YOU ARE BITCHTIME 9, the UNDISPUTED REIGINING CHAMPION ASSHOLE TROLL who has zero respect and knows absolutely shit about boxing:yep :yep

[C Money]

It really doesn't matter b/c Spaddy hasn't done much of anything besides hold his own in a Sparring session with the P4P king. He beat the likes of Dorin...BARLEY. And a close, close fight with Victorian a guy who Floyd destroyed.

Spaddy is highly skilled and a tough puzzle to figure out, but that's to the good boxers....>Guys like Floyd, DLH, and Shane are on anther level and Spaddy is proably right in the middle of good and Great (in terms of his skills).

Point is there was no reason to fight a guy like Spaddy for a few reasons....one...spaddy is a Risk with NO reward. He's a risk to floyd b/c it would have proably been one HELL of a boring fight...Spaddys only exciting fight was with Dorin and Sosa (which wasn't that exciiting)

2...Spaddy didn't bring anything to the table..no name and no money...he did have a belt...But what's one belt to Floyd who at the time had a more than a few???

And 3.....Floyd had his schedule BOOKED from 99 to present with fights that were far more lucrative and demanded by the boxing world. The fight just didn't make sense to anyone but Spaddy and his camp.

Did you read the original post?? It basically refutes in factual terms everything YOU WROTE about.

One thing you and the groupies are missing IS BEATING THE BEST OPPOSITION and unification is what leaves a REAL LEGACY.
Floyd talked a lot of shit and wasnt willing to back up ANYTHING, UNTIL REHAB THAT IS!!!

Get it?? Spat wasnt worth it, blah, blah, blah, more excuses, blah, blah, blah, BUT........he hits REHAB and in comes the offer??:lol:

Again read the post and :think :think :think , then realize you're post was a total waste which is refuted by THE FACTS:good

[C Money]

Good point, but I guess a sparring session, or an altercation at a casino does. Listen man, you keep spending your time living in the past, and pulling up old useless videos. I'm sure you're proud of all the hard work you've put into it. I'm pretty sure Floyd fans all over the world are in shock now that you "exposed" Floyd. I don't know how I can ever root for the guy now, knowing he ducked future Hall of Famer Paul Spadafora

YOU KEEP MISSING THE POINT!!!

Mr. P4P, you're hero, DUCKED A GUY LIKE SPADAFORA and has cherry picked his way to his current status. READ THE ORIGINAL POST!!

YOu arent the best by cherry picking and ducking:nono :nono :nono Fight the best, beat the best, UNIFY for once(47 will do), and add real respect to his legacy!!!!!!!!!!!!

I give him credit for finally facing Hatton, hope he continues to redeem his past transgressions.

[C Money]

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

The haters are so desperate to see Floyd get his ass whoop that a sparring session is acceptable.

Have at it, I guess.

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Its more like the P4P "king" is ok with ducking, cherry picking, not fighting the best!!! And the groupies?? They swallow and like it:yep :yep

SRR is rolling in his grave:good :lol:

[bigtime9]

you just made 4 posts in a row rambling about the same thing:nut

are you feeling ok:blood

[C Money]

you just made 4 posts in a row rambling about the same thing:nut

are you feeling ok:blood

You've made over 4000 and havent said a DAMN THING YET!!!


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Cobra33]

The thing I find ironic is that Mayweather came in while Spaddy was training and CHALLENGED Spaddy to spar.Then Spaddy kicked his ass and now MAYWEATHER WASN"t in shape.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Why don't don't you Floyd fanatics ask yourself this? WHY NOT FIGHT SPADDY? Was he NOT a belt holder? Was he NOT a legitimate fight in the eyes of everyone? And if he DID beat on Floyd in sparring and everyone knew, WHY NOT make the fight and make everyone FORGET about it with a real boxing match?

All you guys can go is make excuses...

[Toopretty]

This is a sad but desperate attempt to knock a great fighter. You showed footage of the best fighter in boxing losing some rounds to a sub par champion but all around pretty good fighter. WOW, I guess that never happend. I guess a great fighter never gets bested in sparring. LOL..I heard mike tyson got knocked down in sparring in his prime..I heard Ali used to let his sparring partners beat up on him when he was focusing on defense. The point is not fighting a fighter like spadafora means nothing. B/c Spadafora has done nothing. See if Spadafora beat Castillo Corrales Casamayor or Frietas or Johnston or any other 130-135 pd fighter that all proved themselves around that time then you have a point. This debate is a boxing joke to the highest order. Spadafora is a leach in the boxing sess pool. He is a lowly guy with no credentials but a vacated ibf belt that he held briefly. Floyd did not cherry pick shit fighting Castillo and Corrales and even Jesus Chavez bests any damned Spadafora. WHO WAS THE BETTER FIGHTER. NAME ANY TOP FIGHTERS ON FLOYDS RESUME THAT SPADAFORA iS BETTER THEN. He was the lowest reward fighter out there. Nobody knows this guy. Everybody knew Corrales. lol...get a grip and end this tyranny. Hatred for Floyd cannot run that deep. This shit aint about Floyd nut hugging its about common sense. Spadafora had a fucking scheduled a week later and was in his prime condition. Floyd had not fight scheduled and was 3 months since his last fight. He did not do any type of hard training let alone sparring before stepping into the ring with that guy..And to the idiots that asked why did he step in the ring then...A fucking duhhhh..he took him lightly and thought he could play with him like a C level fighter but he got embarrassed. Motherfuckers act like floyd just fights and spars in his off time...the dude had on street clothes in the ring with some boxing shoes..lol

[Lance_Uppercut]

This is a sad but desperate attempt to knock a great fighter. You showed footage of the best fighter in boxing losing some rounds to a sub par champion but all around pretty good fighter. WOW, I guess that never happend. I guess a great fighter never gets bested in sparring. LOL..I heard mike tyson got knocked down in sparring in his prime..I heard Ali used to let his sparring partners beat up on him when he was focusing on defense. The point is not fighting a fighter like spadafora means nothing. B/c Spadafora has done nothing. See if Spadafora beat Castillo Corrales Casamayor or Frietas or Johnston or any other 130-135 pd fighter that all proved themselves around that time then you have a point. This debate is a boxing joke to the highest order. Spadafora is a leach in the boxing sess pool. He is a lowly guy with no credentials but a vacated ibf belt that he held briefly. Floyd did not cherry pick shit fighting Castillo and Corrales and even Jesus Chavez bests any damned Spadafora. WHO WAS THE BETTER FIGHTER. NAME ANY TOP FIGHTERS ON FLOYDS RESUME THAT SPADAFORA iS BETTER THEN. He was the lowest reward fighter out there. Nobody knows this guy. Everybody knew Corrales. lol...get a grip and end this tyranny. Hatred for Floyd cannot run that deep. This shit aint about Floyd nut hugging its about common sense. Spadafora had a fucking scheduled a week later and was in his prime condition. Floyd had not fight scheduled and was 3 months since his last fight. He did not do any type of hard training let alone sparring before stepping into the ring with that guy..And to the idiots that asked why did he step in the ring then...A fucking duhhhh..he took him lightly and thought he could play with him like a C level fighter but he got embarrassed. Motherfuckers act like floyd just fights and spars in his off time...the dude had on street clothes in the ring with some boxing shoes..lol
Care to take a stab at this?

Why don't don't you Floyd fanatics ask yourself this? WHY NOT FIGHT SPADDY? Was he NOT a belt holder? Was he NOT a legitimate fight in the eyes of everyone? And if he DID beat on Floyd in sparring and everyone knew, WHY NOT make the fight and make everyone FORGET about it with a real boxing match?

All you guys can go is make excuses...
Floyd is said to be ultra competitive and a perfectionist, yet he didn't think he needed to do anything about this.

What would you do? :huh

[BigReg]

Why don't don't you Floyd fanatics ask yourself this? WHY NOT FIGHT SPADDY? Was he NOT a belt holder? Was he NOT a legitimate fight in the eyes of everyone? And if he DID beat on Floyd in sparring and everyone knew, WHY NOT make the fight and make everyone FORGET about it with a real boxing match?

All you guys can go is make excuses...

To Floyd's credit, he was supposed to fight Spadafora after Spadafora beat Dorin. However, Paul could no longer make 135 lbs. after this fight and moved to 140

[Lance_Uppercut]

To Floyd's credit, he was supposed to fight Spadafora after Spadafora beat Dorin. However, Paul could no longer make 135 lbs. after this fight and moved to 140

It should have happened after the Castillo fight IMHO.

[BigReg]

It should have happened after the Castillo fight IMHO.

After the 2nd Castillo fight, Floyd fought Sosa(this might have been his mando, I'm not sure). He was scheduled to fight the winner of Spadafora/Dorin. Spadafora looked bad in that fight, and then moved up to 140 after this fight(in Paul's defense he was having trouble making weight). Floyd's toughest fight of his career was against Castillo. After his first win against Castillo, he gave him an immediate rematch. So I don't think he minds taking on a tough challenge. I think both guys very much wanted to fight each other, circumstances prevented this from happening. This happens in boxing all the time.

[Toopretty]

It should have happened after the Castillo fight IMHO.

Well if your criterian for Floyd being a great or good fighter is the fact he didnt fight Spadafora or ducked Spadafora. So answer this question, wouldnt that be true if he didnt fight anyone better then Spadafora? I mean Ok say he ducked him to fight lesser fighters. Then that is a pure duck. But if you fight and beat better fighters dont that kind of make duck claims look retarded. Thats like saying you avoided a challenge to take on a bigger challenge. :patsch:patsch
I dont get it. :think:think

[Lance_Uppercut]

Well if your criterian for Floyd being a great or good fighter is the fact he didnt fight Spadafora or ducked Spadafora. So answer this question, wouldnt that be true if he didnt fight anyone better then Spadafora? I mean Ok say he ducked him to fight lesser fighters. Then that is a pure duck. But if you fight and beat better fighters dont that kind of make duck claims look retarded. Thats like saying you avoided a challenge to take on a bigger challenge. :patsch:patsch
I dont get it. :think:think

YOU didn't answer me, and expect me to answer you? :huh

For the record, I would've picked Floyd to beat Spad. But that don't mean shit in the real world.

[Toopretty]

It should have happened after the Castillo fight IMHO.

That is dumb..after that fight people were demanding rematch...lol..if he fought spaddy at that time he would be crucified by you guys for that. It will never end. I wish Floyd had a different personality then you guys would never bring this shit up. Floyd 38-0 in pro fights. probably 1000-1or2 in sparring. 100 plus wins to 10 or less losses as an amatuer. Oh wow. I guess that sparring whooping he took really puts a kink in his armor. :nut:nut:nut:nut

[Sonny Carson]

Floyd was out of shape but he did have trouble with Paul's southpaw style. Spadafora did barely beat Angel Manfredy though so in a real match Floyd take's him by UD.

[Lance_Uppercut]

After the 2nd Castillo fight, Floyd fought Sosa(this might have been his mando, I'm not sure). He was scheduled to fight the winner of Spadafora/Dorin. Spadafora looked bad in that fight, and then moved up to 140 after this fight(in Paul's defense he was having trouble making weight). Floyd's toughest fight of his career was against Castillo. After his first win against Castillo, he gave him an immediate rematch. So I don't think he minds taking on a tough challenge. I think both guys very much wanted to fight each other, circumstances prevented this from happening. This happens in boxing all the time.

I agree. It was a SHO/HBO conflict that kept Floyd and Kostya Tszyu from meeting for the most part.:thumbsup

[Toopretty]

Everybody answered your question. The fight Spaddy had on HBO was a pre fight for him and floyd and he got beat up..So HBO threw that fight out of the window. So you are telling me that fights just happen like that..lol Poof and done..No....the TV networks have to agree. The promoters have to agree on money. And the teams have to agree. You answered your won question. Floyd did not have the pull like he does now to get any fighter in the ring..lol You act like he is ODH or something..Floyd didnt even have a promoter during that timeframe and was going through his own issues.. Just to top it off.

[Illmatic]

To Floyd's credit, he was supposed to fight Spadafora after Spadafora beat Dorin. However, Paul could no longer make 135 lbs. after this fight and moved to 140

Spaddy lost to Dorin and got a hometown draw

[C Money]

This is a sad but desperate attempt to knock a great fighter. You showed footage of the best fighter in boxing losing some rounds to a sub par champion but all around pretty good fighter. WOW, I guess that never happend. I guess a great fighter never gets bested in sparring. LOL..I heard mike tyson got knocked down in sparring in his prime..I heard Ali used to let his sparring partners beat up on him when he was focusing on defense. The point is not fighting a fighter like spadafora means nothing. B/c Spadafora has done nothing. See if Spadafora beat Castillo Corrales Casamayor or Frietas or Johnston or any other 130-135 pd fighter that all proved themselves around that time then you have a point. This debate is a boxing joke to the highest order. Spadafora is a leach in the boxing sess pool. He is a lowly guy with no credentials but a vacated ibf belt that he held briefly. Floyd did not cherry pick shit fighting Castillo and Corrales and even Jesus Chavez bests any damned Spadafora. WHO WAS THE BETTER FIGHTER. NAME ANY TOP FIGHTERS ON FLOYDS RESUME THAT SPADAFORA iS BETTER THEN. He was the lowest reward fighter out there. Nobody knows this guy. Everybody knew Corrales. lol...get a grip and end this tyranny. Hatred for Floyd cannot run that deep. This shit aint about Floyd nut hugging its about common sense. Spadafora had a fucking scheduled a week later and was in his prime condition. Floyd had not fight scheduled and was 3 months since his last fight. He did not do any type of hard training let alone sparring before stepping into the ring with that guy..And to the idiots that asked why did he step in the ring then...A fucking duhhhh..he took him lightly and thought he could play with him like a C level fighter but he got embarrassed. Motherfuckers act like floyd just fights and spars in his off time...the dude had on street clothes in the ring with some boxing shoes..lol


:lol: excuses, excuses, EXCUSES!!!!!!!!

The shame too pretty is that Floyd went looking for Spadafora and got his ass beat!! I mean how many times are you gonna try and beat around the bush here?? WHO made floyd call Spat out, talk shit, and get whupped??? THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS....get it!!!

As for why he should have faced Spadafora?? The top two LW's were Castillo and Spadafora and Spadafora whipped his ass. UNIFICATION=beating the other champions, something Floyd's NEVER TRIED OR ACCOMPLISHED:nono :nono

The fact that Floyd ducked such an inferior fighter AND THEN TENDERED AN OFFER WHILE THE GUY WAS IN REHAB IS PREPOSTEROUS!! Worse still is you trying to attack the facts with some BS talking bout why fight him!! WHY DID FLOYD MAKE AN OFFER WHEN HE WAS IN REHAB????:lol: THAT IS A BOXING JOKE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!!:lol: :lol:

As for Chico?? Why was PBF trying to move up to 35 without facing Chico previously?? You said earlier Floyd was having problems making 130, then when Chico's life is spiraling out of control, floyd goes after him and stays another year at 130???:-( :-( BTW, everyone knew who casamayor was too, except PBf of course. Like I said, if PBF had dogged Spat?? he would have IMMEDIATELY made the title fight and we may or may not have seen a fight with Corrales and it damn sure wouldnt have been at 30!!!

Too Pretty, give up the bullshit, you've slid back down several notches trying to twist, turn, and wriggle away from the truth here:good

When you get embarrassed by a C level fighter with a BELT in sparring?? YOU MAKE THE FIGHT, come in shape, beat his ass THEN TALK THAT SHIT!!!! Not duck, slip, roll, and make an offer when the dudes in REHAB 3 years later!!!

[C Money]

To Floyd's credit, he was supposed to fight Spadafora after Spadafora beat Dorin. However, Paul could no longer make 135 lbs. after this fight and moved to 140

You are seriously DENSE and uninformed despite an abundance of factual information in front of YOU!!! READ THE ORIGINAL POST HOMIE!!! You just might learn something:yep

Floyd made the offer when Spat was in rehab after Dorin and after the shooting. The reason the fight wasnt made is Spadafora lost his license because of the legal issues. Btw PBF didnt go staright to 140 either he had another fight, I'll let you look for yourself as giving you facts is apparently MEANINGLESS.

[C Money]

That is dumb..after that fight people were demanding rematch...lol..if he fought spaddy at that time he would be crucified by you guys for that. It will never end. I wish Floyd had a different personality then you guys would never bring this shit up. Floyd 38-0 in pro fights. probably 1000-1or2 in sparring. 100 plus wins to 10 or less losses as an amatuer. Oh wow. I guess that sparring whooping he took really puts a kink in his armor. :nut:nut:nut:nut


JESUS!!!!

What it does is physically SHOW that Floyd cherry picked his way through 30 and 35. If PBF is so fucking bad?? WHY didnt he make the fight?? Why 3 years and rehab???

Get a grip, your fingers are dribbling the same tired ass excuses and you're mind is refusing to grasp THE POINTR+!!!!

[C Money]

Spaddy lost to Dorin and got a hometown draw

Ok, it's understandable why you might feel that way. As I said in the orginal post, there's no excuses, but behind the scenes?? Spat was already having issues and it surfaced in that performance. Wasnt long after the shooting occured, then rehab, and HEY...then Floyd's 'offer":rofl :rofl :rofl

[Toopretty]

:lol: excuses, excuses, EXCUSES!!!!!!!!

The shame too pretty is that Floyd went looking for Spadafora and got his ass beat!! I mean how many times are you gonna try and beat around the bush here?? WHO made floyd call Spat out, talk shit, and get whupped??? THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS....get it!!!

As for why he should have faced Spadafora?? The top two LW's were Castillo and Spadafora and Spadafora whipped his ass. UNIFICATION=beating the other champions, something Floyd's NEVER TRIED OR ACCOMPLISHED:nono :nono

The fact that Floyd ducked such an inferior fighter AND THEN TENDERED AN OFFER WHILE THE GUY WAS IN REHAB IS PREPOSTEROUS!! Worse still is you trying to attack the facts with some BS talking bout why fight him!! WHY DID FLOYD MAKE AN OFFER WHEN HE WAS IN REHAB????:lol: THAT IS A BOXING JOKE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!!:lol: :lol:

As for Chico?? Why was PBF trying to move up to 35 without facing Chico previously?? You said earlier Floyd was having problems making 130, then when Chico's life is spiraling out of control, floyd goes after him and stays another year at 130???:-( :-( BTW, everyone knew who casamayor was too, except PBf of course. Like I said, if PBF had dogged Spat?? he would have IMMEDIATELY made the title fight and we may or may not have seen a fight with Corrales and it damn sure wouldnt have been at 30!!!

Too Pretty, give up the bullshit, you've slid back down several notches trying to twist, turn, and wriggle away from the truth here:good

When you get embarrassed by a C level fighter with a BELT in sparring?? YOU MAKE THE FIGHT, come in shape, beat his ass THEN TALK THAT SHIT!!!! Not duck, slip, roll, and make an offer when the dudes in REHAB 3 years later!!!


Not to punch more holes in your bullshit conspiracy theory that is already shredded. The Augustus fight was at a catch weight of 134 b/c floyd had a long layoff before the fight and did not train or anything for a long time and he said that himself....Out of his mouth..He couldnt make the 130 limit and they negotiated a catch weight(oh I guess we never seen this happen:nut:nut) How many times do fighters have trouble making weight but still drain themselves to fight at lower weights. So I guess floyd doing this for a year or so is a travisty you are digging yourself in a deeper ditch looking stupid with your dumb ass double standards..why didnt Spaddy move up to 140 being as though he had problems making 135 and blamed his real loss on that shit...More bullshit from you...Floyd said the Augustus fight was his hardest fight to date with the distractions and the layoff and short time to train. I mean this shit is fact out if his mouth. On paper. the fight was at a catch weight Floyd had the longest layoff of his career...You are simple minded dude that cant see that you are full of shit.

[BigReg]

You are seriously DENSE and uninformed despite an abundance of factual information in front of YOU!!! READ THE ORIGINAL POST HOMIE!!! You just might learn something:yep

Floyd made the offer when Spat was in rehab after Dorin and after the shooting. The reason the fight wasnt made is Spadafora lost his license because of the legal issues. Btw PBF didnt go staright to 140 either he had another fight, I'll let you look for yourself as giving you facts is apparently MEANINGLESS.

After the Dorin fight, Spadafora could not make the 135 lb. limit any more and moved up to 140(Floyd offered Spadafora a fight before this and Spadafora turned it down because he wasn't getting enough money). Floyd was scheduled to fight Spadafora again at 140 but a fight couldn't get sanctioned because Spadafora couldn't keep his ass out of trouble. You really need to stop with this Spadafora bullshit. I have no idea why you are so obsessed with this. Why does Floyd have to sit around and wait for everything to be perfect in Spadafora's life? How come you don't place any blame on Spadafora for letting his lack of self control away from the ring fuck up his career? And you know what, I refuse to read your long ass timeline. You're pathetic attempts to discredit a damn good fighter by bringing up this Spadafora bullshit is sad. Let it go. Spadafora fucked himself around by constantly getting himself into trouble.

[Toopretty]

JESUS!!!!

What it does is physically SHOW that Floyd cherry picked his way through 30 and 35. If PBF is so fucking bad?? WHY didnt he make the fight?? Why 3 years and rehab???

Get a grip, your fingers are dribbling the same tired ass excuses and you're mind is refusing to grasp THE POINTR+!!!!

Ok ..lol you dumb shit..he was cherry picking but he fought the two best fighters out of 130 and 135 that went on to rule the division after him wow...cherry picking Corrales and Castillo..wow those easy guys...stupid is as stupid does sir. Even Jesus Chavez was a better fighter then spadafora...he was lightweight champ...lol

C-money you are a blind gump..Cherry picking fighting the best fighters...Talking this shit about Corrales having distractions..that shit is excuses....get your backwards talking shit together..you look stupid...

[Toopretty]

After the Dorin fight, Spadafora could not make the 135 lb. limit any more and moved up to 140(Floyd offered Spadafora a fight before this and Spadafora turned it down because he wasn't getting enough money). Floyd was scheduled to fight Spadafora again at 140 but a fight couldn't get sanctioned because Spadafora couldn't keep his ass out of trouble. You really need to stop with this Spadafora bullshit. I have no idea why you are so obsessed with this. Why does Floyd have to sit around and wait for everything to be perfect in Spadafora's life? How come you don't place any blame on Spadafora for letting his lack of self control away from the ring fuck up his career? And you know what, I refuse to read your long ass timeline. You're pathetic attempts to discredit a damn good fighter by bringing up this Spadafora bullshit is sad. Let it go. Spadafora fucked himself around by constantly getting himself into trouble.

Reg you are no floyd nuthugger and are the most reasonable guy on this fucking forum that always looks at two views..that I have noticed..I admit I cant say bad things about floyd...but this shit is ridiculous..cherry picking the tougher...and more accomplished cherrys..wow......just wow..So I guess Spaddy was better then corrales and castillo..lol..:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:nut:nut:nut:nut:nut:nut

[BigReg]

Reg you are no floyd nuthugger and are the most reasonable guy on this fucking forum that always looks at two views..that I have noticed..I admit I cant say bad things about floyd...but this shit is ridiculous..cherry picking the tougher...and more accomplished cherrys..wow......just wow..So I guess Spaddy was better then corrales and castillo..lol..:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:nut:nut:nut:nut:nut:nut

You're right, sometimes shit gets ridiculous. Castillo was the recognized champ at 135 and Spadafora was a paper champ. Yet Floyd's ducking him. How do you win 3 linear titles by cherry picking every division? No one gives a shit about Spadafora except this guy. Spadafora is a fuck up, who ruined his own career. If Spadafora could control himself outside of the ring this fight could've been made

[C Money]

[quote=C Money]:lol: excuses, excuses, EXCUSES!!!!!!!!

The shame too pretty is that Floyd went looking for Spadafora and got his ass beat!! I mean how many times are you gonna try and beat around the bush here?? WHO made floyd call Spat out, talk shit, and get whupped??? THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS....get it!!!

As for why he should have faced Spadafora?? The top two LW's were Castillo and Spadafora and Spadafora whipped his ass. UNIFICATION=beating the other champions, something Floyd's NEVER TRIED OR ACCOMPLISHED:nono :nono

The fact that Floyd ducked such an inferior fighter AND THEN TENDERED AN OFFER WHILE THE GUY WAS IN REHAB IS PREPOSTEROUS!! Worse still is you trying to attack the facts with some BS talking bout why fight him!! WHY DID FLOYD MAKE AN OFFER WHEN HE WAS IN REHAB????:lol: THAT IS A BOXING JOKE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!!:lol: :lol:




Not to punch more holes in your bullshit conspiracy theory that is already shredded. The Augustus fight was at a catch weight of 134 b/c floyd had a long layoff before the fight and did not train or anything for a long time and he said that himself....Out of his mouth..He couldnt make the 130 limit and they negotiated a catch weight(oh I guess we never seen this happen:nut:nut) How many times do fighters have trouble making weight but still drain themselves to fight at lower weights. So I guess floyd doing this for a year or so is a travisty you are digging yourself in a deeper ditch looking stupid with your dumb ass double standards..why didnt Spaddy move up to 140 being as though he had problems making 135 and blamed his real loss on that shit...More bullshit from you...Floyd said the Augustus fight was his hardest fight to date with the distractions and the layoff and short time to train. I mean this shit is fact out if his mouth. On paper. the fight was at a catch weight Floyd had the longest layoff of his career...You are simple minded dude that cant see that you are full of shit.

:lol: :lol:

You havent poked holes in anything!!!:rofl :rofl You have only helped illustrate that Floyd ducked SPat!!!

How does Floyd have trouble/couldnt make 130 in 10/2000 negoitiates a "catch weight' (BS but whatever) and then manages to stay another year at 130 after that??:lol: :lol: Fucking hilarious!!!

This fucking layoff shit of your's is more funny shit!!! 6-7 months is so long for a gym rat who's ALWAYS IN SHAPE?? Muthafuka PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Why did Spat stay at 35??? BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO GET FLOYD TO STEP UP AND BACK UP HIS BULLSHIT!!!! Thats why!!! As I told you they fought Dorin to try and get 2 belts at which point Even those biased in the media would have to say, MAKE THE FIGHT!!!!

You are a SIMPLETON who is hiding behind smoke and mirrors when the facts are smacking you silly!!!!!!! It's you Too Pretty who has EGG ALL ON HIS FACE HERE, you cant refute the facts, but just give us more of that good ol BS!!!!

Spat aint shit, blah, blah, blah, why fight him, blah, blah, blah, HOW COME PBF MADE THE OFFER WHEN HE WAS IN REHAB!!!! You cant get away from it!!! That very fact shows that all you're BS is what it is!! I gave you VIDEO EVIDENCE of what happened 3 years earlier. OH, OH.....If I only had a mic of the shit Floyd talked beforehand:rofl :rofl

You're back to talking too much shit and cant back it up with SKILLZ or FACTS:nono :nono :nono

[C Money]

You're right, sometimes shit gets ridiculous. Castillo was the recognized champ at 135 and Spadafora was a paper champ. Yet Floyd's ducking him. How do you win 3 linear titles by cherry picking every division? No one gives a shit about Spadafora except this guy. Spadafora is a fuck up, who ruined his own career. If Spadafora could control himself outside of the ring this fight could've been made

:lol:

Goddamn, are you from Jupiter or something???

Ring recognized the winner of Pbf vs Castillo as "Champ" Castillo was just a titlelist as spadafora was before that point.

Floyd NEVER WON 3 LINEAL TITLES!!! He wasnt lineal at 35:nono


Floyd's a cherry picker and thats THE TRUTH!!!! Something your dense ass just cant grab on to.

[Toopretty]

[quote=Toopretty]

:lol: :lol:

You havent poked holes in anything!!!:rofl :rofl You have only helped illustrate that Floyd ducked SPat!!!

How does Floyd have trouble/couldnt make 130 in 10/2000 negoitiates a "catch weight' (BS but whatever) and then manages to stay another year at 130 after that??:lol: :lol: Fucking hilarious!!!

This fucking layoff shit of your's is more funny shit!!! 6-7 months is so long for a gym rat who's ALWAYS IN SHAPE?? Muthafuka PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Why did Spat stay at 35??? BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO GET FLOYD TO STEP UP AND BACK UP HIS BULLSHIT!!!! Thats why!!! As I told you they fought Dorin to try and get 2 belts at which point Even those biased in the media would have to say, MAKE THE FIGHT!!!!

You are a SIMPLETON who is hiding behind smoke and mirrors when the facts are smacking you silly!!!!!!! It's you Too Pretty who has EGG ALL ON HIS FACE HERE, you cant refute the facts, but just give us more of that good ol BS!!!!

Spat aint shit, blah, blah, blah, why fight him, blah, blah, blah, HOW COME PBF MADE THE OFFER WHEN HE WAS IN REHAB!!!! You cant get away from it!!! That very fact shows that all you're BS is what it is!! I gave you VIDEO EVIDENCE of what happened 3 years earlier. OH, OH.....If I only had a mic of the shit Floyd talked beforehand:rofl :rofl

You're back to talking too much shit and cant back it up with SKILLZ or FACTS:nono :nono :nono


Ok you dumb fuck...you make all these mother fucking excuses for spadafora not fighting ANY TOP FIGHTERS not doing anything meaningful in the fucking and saying floyd having a 6-7 month layoff wich was the longest he has ever had "OUT OF HIS FUCKING MOUTH..WHENEVER ASKED WHAT WAS HIS TOUGHEST FIGHT HE SAID AUGUSTUS B/C HE DID NOT TRAIN..DID NOT HAVE PROMOTER UNTIL ARUM SIGNED HIM AND HAD ISSUES OUT OF THE RING THE FUCKING FIGHT WAS AT A CATCH WEIGHT WITH YOUR DUMB NON BACKING SUPPOSEDLY FACTS UP WHICH AINT SHIT BUT SPECULATION OR OPINION..LOOK IT UP BITCH....TAKE A NOTE...THIS SHIT AINT EXCUSES...THIS IS FACTS...OUT OF HIS MOUTH THE FIGHT WAS AT A CATCH WEIGHT.....PERIOD......FLOYD HAD A SHORT TIME TO TRAIN....THATS WHAT HE FUCKING SAID......SO ARE YOU THE FUCKING FBI...WAS FLOYD LYING....AND IF SO FOR WHAT.....YOUR DUMB ASS IS TOO BUSY SNIFFING UP SPADAFORAS ASS CRACK TO GET A CLUE...

[C Money]

Ok ..lol you dumb shit..he was cherry picking but he fought the two best fighters out of 130 and 135 that went on to rule the division after him wow...cherry picking Corrales and Castillo..wow those easy guys...stupid is as stupid does sir. Even Jesus Chavez was a better fighter then spadafora...he was lightweight champ...lol

C-money you are a blind gump..Cherry picking fighting the best fighters...Talking this shit about Corrales having distractions..that shit is excuses....get your backwards talking shit together..you look stupid...

No he didnt fight the two best fighters at 130:nono he fought Chico, not Casa. hernandez??? STFU!!! Last fight of a fourteen year career, not prime not even CLOSE to his best:nono

Keep on hiding from reality dumbass, the joke's on YOU!!!!

[Toopretty]

:lol:

Goddamn, are you from Jupiter or something???

Ring recognized the winner of Pbf vs Castillo as "Champ" Castillo was just a titlelist as spadafora was before that point.

Floyd NEVER WON 3 LINEAL TITLES!!! He wasnt lineal at 35:nono


Floyd's a cherry picker and thats THE TRUTH!!!! Something your dense ass just cant grab on to.


YEAH HE CHERRY PICKS FIGHTING THE BETTER FIGHTERS THEN WEAK ASS SPADAFORA THAT CANT EVEN BEAT GATTI LEFTOVERS....AND THAT SHIT YOU POSTED CONTRADICTS YOURSELF THE BOXING WORLD SAYS HE WAS THE LINEAL CHAMP BY BEATING THE LINEAL CHAMP AT THOSE WEIGHTS...SHIT BALDOMIR WAS THE RING RECOGNIZED CHAMP....YOU FUCKING DUMB IDIOT..LIVING IN YOUR OWN WORLD OF FACTS..THIS GUY IS FUNNY...:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[Toopretty]

No he didnt fight the two best fighters at 130:nono he fought Chico, not Casa. hernandez??? STFU!!! Last fight of a fourteen year career, not prime not even CLOSE to his best:nono

Keep on hiding from reality dumbass, the joke's on YOU!!!!


BITCH I SAID 130 AND 135 ...HE BEAT CORRALES..HE BEAT CASTILLO...THE TWO FUCKING BEST AT 130 AND 135 BAR NONE... THEY BOTH BEAT CASAMAYOR..WITH CASAMAYOR GETTING A CONTROVERSIAL TKO OVER CORRALES..LIKE I SAID HE ONLY DIDNT FIGHT CASAMAYOR..LOL...THE FUCKING SPADDY BUMB DONT COUNT B/C WHERE IS HE AT....THOSE OTHER GUYS STAYED CHAMPIONS HAD GREAT CAREERS....AHAHAHAHHAHHAHA

[C Money]

[quote=C Money]


Ok you dumb fuck...you make all these mother fucking excuses for spadafora not fighting ANY TOP FIGHTERS not doing anything meaningful in the fucking and saying floyd having a 6-7 month layoff wich was the longest he has ever had "OUT OF HIS FUCKING MOUTH..WHENEVER ASKED WHAT WAS HIS TOUGHEST FIGHT HE SAID AUGUSTUS B/C HE DID NOT TRAIN..DID NOT HAVE PROMOTER UNTIL ARUM SIGNED HIM AND HAD ISSUES OUT OF THE RING THE FUCKING FIGHT WAS AT A CATCH WEIGHT WITH YOUR DUMB NON BACKING SUPPOSEDLY FACTS UP WHICH AINT SHIT BUT SPECULATION OR OPINION..LOOK IT UP BITCH....TAKE A NOTE...THIS SHIT AINT EXCUSES...THIS IS FACTS...OUT OF HIS MOUTH THE FIGHT WAS AT A CATCH WEIGHT.....PERIOD......FLOYD HAD A SHORT TIME TO TRAIN....THATS WHAT HE FUCKING SAID......SO ARE YOU THE FUCKING FBI...WAS FLOYD LYING....AND IF SO FOR WHAT.....YOUR DUMB ASS IS TOO BUSY SNIFFING UP SPADAFORAS ASS CRACK TO GET A CLUE...

More excuses??? WOW!!! THAT's SO IMPRESSIVE!!!!!!!!!!

WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THE AUGUSTUS fight and what relevance does it have to ducking Spadafora OTHER THAN INDICATING PBF HAD THE DESIRE TO MOVE UP and inidicate that floyd fought in march and october 2000? A desire which was also expressed by the fact that he went looking for Spadafora almost a year EARLIER!! But why not stay there since he wanted to move up so bad???:lol: :lol: he fights Chico(who was on his way to jail and having issues) in jan 2001 and stays there a whole year:yep :yep

You keep talking you're shit homie, that's ALL U GOT!!!! Ya boy got his ass whooped adn never unified anything!!! But wait... Spat's IN REHAB, get em Floyd get em, now's you're chance!!:rofl :rofl
Damn, you're like a puppy with his faced rubbed in SHIT!!!:good

[C Money]

BITCH I SAID 130 AND 135 ...HE BEAT CORRALES..HE BEAT CASTILLO...THE TWO FUCKING BEST AT 130 AND 135 BAR NONE... THEY BOTH BEAT CASAMAYOR..WITH CASAMAYOR GETTING A CONTROVERSIAL TKO OVER CORRALES..LIKE I SAID HE ONLY DIDNT FIGHT CASAMAYOR..LOL...THE FUCKING SPADDY BUMB DONT COUNT B/C WHERE IS HE AT....THOSE OTHER GUYS STAYED CHAMPIONS HAD GREAT CAREERS....AHAHAHAHHAHHAHA


NOT AT THE TIME FLOYD MOVED UP FROM 130 :nono :nono :nono they didnt!!

Are you truly retarded???? Casa, Chico, PBF, and Freitas all had belts at 30, learn to READ!!!! Read the original POST, check boxrec if you need clarification on the TRUTH as opposed to you're FANTASIES!!!!


Get your facts straight I GAVE THEM TOO YOU and you're simply blinded by Floyd's nutsack.


So why did he make the offer when Spat was in REHAB since the shit didnt matter???


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Diego Corrales who won the IBF Title on October 23, 1999, Joel Casamayor who won the WBA Interim title(which became official by May 21, 2000) on June 19, 1999, or Acelino Freitas who won the WBO Title on April 2, 1999.

[C Money]

YEAH HE CHERRY PICKS FIGHTING THE BETTER FIGHTERS THEN WEAK ASS SPADAFORA THAT CANT EVEN BEAT GATTI LEFTOVERS....AND THAT SHIT YOU POSTED CONTRADICTS YOURSELF THE BOXING WORLD SAYS HE WAS THE LINEAL CHAMP BY BEATING THE LINEAL CHAMP AT THOSE WEIGHTS...SHIT BALDOMIR WAS THE RING RECOGNIZED CHAMP....YOU FUCKING DUMB IDIOT..LIVING IN YOUR OWN WORLD OF FACTS..THIS GUY IS FUNNY...:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Actually, the boxing world does NOT SAY Floyd was lineal at 35, HE WAS RING CHAMP and thats not the same thing:lol: Obviously, YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THAT!!! Pathetic, truly PATHETIC!!!!

Floyd was lineal at 130 over Hernandez and 47 over baldo, that's it!!

I'm using you for a speed bag right now, keep flapping:good

[C Money]

YEAH HE CHERRY PICKS FIGHTING THE BETTER FIGHTERS THEN WEAK ASS SPADAFORA THAT CANT EVEN BEAT GATTI LEFTOVERS....AND THAT SHIT YOU POSTED CONTRADICTS YOURSELF THE BOXING WORLD SAYS HE WAS THE LINEAL CHAMP BY BEATING THE LINEAL CHAMP AT THOSE WEIGHTS...SHIT BALDOMIR WAS THE RING RECOGNIZED CHAMP....YOU FUCKING DUMB IDIOT..LIVING IN YOUR OWN WORLD OF FACTS..THIS GUY IS FUNNY...:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Missed the part about leftovers but guess what??

Dorin fought gatti after Spat!!!!!:lol: Also?? Gatti's people were trying to fight Spadafora instead, but again HE WENT TO JAIL, so Dorin got the opportunity.

:yep

[Toopretty]

[quote=Toopretty]

More excuses??? WOW!!! THAT's SO IMPRESSIVE!!!!!!!!!!

WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THE AUGUSTUS fight and what relevance does it have to ducking Spadafora OTHER THAN INDICATING PBF HAD THE DESIRE TO MOVE UP and inidicate that floyd fought in march and october 2000? A desire which was also expressed by the fact that he went looking for Spadafora almost a year EARLIER!! But why not stay there since he wanted to move up so bad???:lol: :lol: he fights Chico(who was on his way to jail and having issues) in jan 2001 and stays there a whole year:yep :yep

You keep talking you're shit homie, that's ALL U GOT!!!! Ya boy got his ass whooped adn never unified anything!!! But wait... Spat's IN REHAB, get em Floyd get em, now's you're chance!!:rofl :rofl
Damn, you're like a puppy with his faced rubbed in SHIT!!!:good


Well all I got to say is that history will remember floyd as a great fighter..not a good fighter and fuck up..But a great fighter that made HISTORY in boxing. He is the p4p best fighter on the planet by everyones standards who means anything(other boxers promoters etc..etc..trainers) guys who careers involve boxing..SO ...rock on.....just rock on.......:hey:hey:hey

[Lance_Uppercut]

That is dumb..after that fight people were demanding rematch...lol..if he fought spaddy at that time he would be crucified by you guys for that. It will never end. I wish Floyd had a different personality then you guys would never bring this shit up. Floyd 38-0 in pro fights. probably 1000-1or2 in sparring. 100 plus wins to 10 or less losses as an amatuer. Oh wow. I guess that sparring whooping he took really puts a kink in his armor. :nut:nut:nut:nut
I was talking about the rematch...:patsch

Who the fuck are these YOU GUYS? Is it just eaier for you to lump EVERYONE into one group? Why would I crucify Floyd for defeating another top fighter and guy claiming to be the champ in his division? Sorry, not everyone is a hater in the way you think. You just want to think they are.:roll:


Anyway, you seem to be hiding from what I asked. Twqo posts since and you haven't come CLOSE to answering me. And no, you don't have to. Here it is again...

"Why don't don't you Floyd fanatics ask yourself this? WHY NOT FIGHT SPADDY? Was he NOT a belt holder? Was he NOT a legitimate fight in the eyes of everyone? And if he DID beat on Floyd in sparring and everyone knew, WHY NOT make the fight and make everyone FORGET about it with a real boxing match?"

[Toopretty]

I was talking about the rematch...:patsch

Who the fuck are these YOU GUYS? Is it just eaier for you to lump EVERYONE into one group? Why would I crucify Floyd for defeating another top fighter and guy claiming to be the champ in his division? Sorry, not everyone is a hater in the way you think. You just want to think they are.:roll:

I mean to get the label of cherrypicker fake champ and all this. I mean how can you say this about Mayweather with a str8 face. I know you dislike him personally but you got to admit this thread reaks of inaccuracy and personal opinion. And only tells one side ..and does not take into consideration anything PBF was doing at the time or wanted to do. It is the most defamation of character post I have ever seen. I mean to call a guy a cherry picker for not fighting one guy but fighting better guys..I dont get it. I dont know where you stand but I have no quarrel with you..C money is back on my shit list for his uncanny ability to make me upset even though I try to be rational but he is definitely an irrational person that has some kind of hard on for spadafora that is unseen to be a fan of a lesser fighter like that. But to each his own. I guess we have to co-exist..:p

[KO Boxing]

EVERYONE KNOWS I DONT LIKE FLOYD AND IN THAT VIDEO IT LOOKED LIKE PAUL WAS GETTING THE BETTER OF HIM, BUT I HAVE FOLLOWED BOTH OF THERE CAREERS AND IF THEY WOULD HAVE FOUGHT I TRULY BELIEVE THAT FLOYD WOULD HAVE GOT IN THAT ASS :deal ..

now someone please tell the huggers that I said something nice about Floyd :patsch

thanks
:good

I'll take notice mate.

This thread is a joke.

[C Money]

I mean to get the label of cherrypicker fake champ and all this. I mean how can you say this about Mayweather with a str8 face. I know you dislike him personally but you got to admit this thread reaks of inaccuracy and personal opinion. And only tells one side ..and does not take into consideration anything PBF was doing at the time or wanted to do. It is the most defamation of character post I have ever seen. I mean to call a guy a cherry picker for not fighting one guy but fighting better guys..I dont get it. I dont know where you stand but I have no quarrel with you..C money is back on my shit list for his uncanny ability to make me upset even though I try to be rational but he is definitely an irrational person that has some kind of hard on for spadafora that is unseen to be a fan of a lesser fighter like that. But to each his own. I guess we have to co-exist..:p

TOO PRETTY.... WHY DID PBF MAKE AN OFFER WHEN SPAT HIT REHAB?? 3 years later?? I mean all the shit you speak of contradicts such action:lol: Action which contradicts a championship mentality:yep

You get upset any time Floyd gets dissed, that's not my fault directly. I'm speaking the TRUTH and it isnt sitting well with you're idealistic P4P fantasies!! The minute you get upset?/ You revert to shit talking. When will you realize that doesnt FAZE me in the least!!! I had believed we had passed that point, but apparently we didnt!!! You say I'm irrational but throw out irrational and wrong statements. :lol: You might take a breath and REALIZE Floyd's opposition has recieved criticism for YEARS and not just from me. All I did was pull out the rug with which they tried to cover up this situation and put in in context WITH THE FACTUAL EVENTS at 30 and 35.

We can coexist and I've told you before, I dont expect to change your belief/opinion. Good for you, support your man, but attacking me personally and trying to manipulate(unsuccessfully) the facts doesnt change anything.

Floyd has cherry picked at every division and flat out ducked Spadafora, the only way to reverse it?? Is to lay it down at 47!! Something I hope he does!! It would be a pitiful waste to not leave his legacy and prove himself against the best. It's the History of Champions!!

Hatton is the right first step!!!! Let's hope it continues, so that one day people can say, floyd cherry picked early on, but ERASED and solidified that in the end. Just like they once did with DLH.

[C Money]

:good

I'll take notice mate.

This thread is a joke.

So are you and you're just bringing the same BS you got dissed with on page 1.

Facts are Facts, and that aint no joke!!! 3 Years and REHAB?? Now, that is a JOKE:lol:

[Toopretty]

TOO PRETTY.... WHY DID PBF MAKE AN OFFER WHEN SPAT HIT REHAB?? 3 years later?? I mean all the shit you speak of contradicts such action:lol: Action which contradicts a championship mentality:yep

You get upset any time Floyd gets dissed, that's not my fault directly. I'm speaking the TRUTH and it isnt sitting well with you're idealistic P4P fantasies!! The minute you get upset?/ You revert to shit talking. When will you realize that doesnt FAZE me in the least!!! I had believed we had passed that point, but apparently we didnt!!! You say I'm irrational but throw out irrational and wrong statements. :lol: You might take a breath and REALIZE Floyd's opposition has recieved criticism for YEARS and not just from me. All I did was pull out the rug with which they tried to cover up this situation and put in in context WITH THE FACTUAL EVENTS at 30 and 35.

We can coexist and I've told you before, I dont expect to change your belief/opinion. Good for you, support your man, but attacking me personally and trying to manipulate(unsuccessfully) the facts doesnt change anything.

Floyd has cherry picked at every division and flat out ducked Spadafora, the only way to reverse it?? Is to lay it down at 47!! Something I hope he does!! It would be a pitiful waste to not leave his legacy and prove himself against the best. It's the History of Champions!!

Hatton is the right first step!!!! Let's hope it continues, so that one day people can say, floyd cherry picked early on, but ERASED and solidified that in the end. Just like they once did with DLH.

Floyd is called the p4p best fighter in the sport and is the only fighter even mentioned in the same breath as all time greats..I think I will stick to reality and not your reality...:good Seems as though you missed that part. And that nobody in boxing even mentions floyd ducking spadafora or doing any cherry picking between 130-135 where he is praised uconditionallly. And only since 140 was he scrutinized for opposition. No matter what bullshit or way you try to twist it. YOU DIDNT PROVE SHIT BUT FLOYD DUCKED THE WEAKEST FIGHTER AT 135 TO FIGHT THE BEST FIGHTER AT 135 TWICE IN CASTILLO. And one of the two of the best if not the best fighters at 130 in hernandez in his 18th fight making him the first out of all the olympic boxers to win a title. lol That is history homie.. Same thing sweat pea did..lol... And he dominated Corrales..Live with the fact that Floyd was GREAT at those weights and Spadafora is the little engine that couldnt.. Nobody agrees with you..who have you convinced..Ok I will wait................................................:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl:ro fl

[C Money]

Floyd is called the p4p best fighter in the sport and is the only fighter even mentioned in the same breath as all time greats..I think I will stick to reality and not your reality...:good Seems as though you missed that part. And that nobody in boxing even mentions floyd ducking spadafora or doing any cherry picking between 130-135 where he is praised uconditionallly. And only since 140 was he scrutinized for opposition. No matter what bullshit or way you try to twist it. YOU DIDNT PROVE SHIT BUT FLOYD DUCKED THE WEAKEST FIGHTER AT 135 TO FIGHT THE BEST FIGHTER AT 135 TWICE IN CASTILLO. And one of the two of the best if not the best fighters at 130 in hernandez in his 18th fight making him the first out of all the olympic boxers to win a title. lol That is history homie.. Same thing sweat pea did..lol... And he dominated Corrales..Live with the fact that Floyd was GREAT at those weights and Spadafora is the little engine that couldnt.. Nobody agrees with you..who have you convinced..Ok I will wait................................................:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl:ro fl

You talk about my reality?? Unconditionally praised?? :rofl :rofl :rofl

BTW, P4P is OPINION and there's no factual determination of such!! If you compare Floyds opp to those were truly ATG's?? He cant hold a candle to their ASS!!!!

You keep talking in circles, huffing, puffing and :| :good

Floyd tried to leave 30 without fighting any of the top guys and had to go back to get Chico:lol: Casa, Chico, and Freitas all had belts when Floyd fough Gerena in 99:yep so between then and 2002 all he managed to do was fight Chico??:lol: :lol: Oh....and duck Spadafora:good

Can you just answer 1 question???

WHY DID PBF TAKE 3 YEARS AND MAKE AN OFFER WITH SPAT IN REHAB, IF HE WAS SO MEDIOCRE???:lol: :lol: :lol:

Goodnight!:hi:

[KO Boxing]

So are you and you're just bringing the same BS you got dissed with on page 1.

Facts are Facts, and that aint no joke!!! 3 Years and REHAB?? Now, that is a JOKE:lol:
Dude, what's your problem with ME personally? Just because I disagree?

I don't think the sparring is evidence of proof that anyone ducked anyone. I honestly thought Mayweather was just havin fun in there, and to me, it was clear that if he was in top gear (as he would be in a fight), Spadafora wouldn't have gone the distance. At times he had no answers to Floyd, which may not have been so obvious with the headgears...

Spadafora in no way looked like the better fighter in there, although granted AT TIMES he did get the better of Mayweather... But each to their own, as I say.

A question: Do you think that IF Mayweather (had the balls) and took a fight with Spadafora, that Spadafora would have won?

[KO Boxing]

By the way, as much as I disagree with the thread, I actually don't mind bumping it just so more people can watch. I'm interested to see if most people see what I see... Cause I honestly don't think it's a big deal AT ALL.

[C Money]

Dude, what's your problem with ME personally? Just because I disagree?

I don't think the sparring is evidence of proof that anyone ducked anyone. I honestly thought Mayweather was just havin fun in there, and to me, it was clear that if he was in top gear (as he would be in a fight), Spadafora wouldn't have gone the distance. At times he had no answers to Floyd, which may not have been so obvious with the headgears...

Spadafora in no way looked like the better fighter in there, although granted AT TIMES he did get the better of Mayweather... But each to their own, as I say.

A question: Do you think that IF Mayweather (had the balls) and took a fight with Spadafora, that Spadafora would have won?

I dont know you personally nor do I have a problem with whoever you are as a person, per say. My problem is the ridiculously short and impulsive nature of you're posts which basically say nothing. You then l pull up the same nothing late in the thread, which is just as useless, STILL!!!. It shows a BIAS that is unwilling to consider any other conclusion. To say that Spadafora didnt look like the better fighter there? Shows bias that borders blindness. All the PBF camp could do was make excuses, because everyone there that day, saw Floyd end up on the short end of the stick. Did you read the original post?? The factual timeline of events combined with the video essentially SHOW that this obviously was a big deal to Floyd:yep

If it werent?? Why was the "offer" almost 3 years and a REHAB in coming??? Again the timeline bears out that PBF had opportunity and time but CHOSE other options, none of which WERE UNIFYING OPTIONS!!! Had Floyd gone backl to 30, beat Chico, CAsa, and Freitas thus unifying 130?? It would have been far more understandable, but he didnt!! On top of that, Floyd wanted to go to 35 and was supposedly having trouble making 130 and fought Augustus at 35 in 10/2000 or 10 months after Spat beat him in this vid, yet he goes back to 130 and stay's there ANOTHER YEAR!!!! Comes back to 35 in 20002 beats Castillo and does more shit talking on Spadafora but what's he do next?? FIGHT SOSA, whom Spadafora beat in 2000:-( Floyd should have faced Spadafora and proved that this was a big deal about nothing.

So, while you may feel whatever you feel, a reasonable and objective person must at least QUESTION the events!!! THAT DOESNT MEAN YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT SPADAFORA WOULD BEAT FLOYD!!!!! That isnt the intent of this thread. The intent is to prove that Floyd has cherry picked from the beginning and ducked what most believe is an inferior opponent:good

To you're question?? Had Floyd fought Spadafora between 2000-and jan 2003? YES, I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THAT SPADAFORA BEATS MAYWEATHER AND WOULD HAVE BET A LARGE SUM ON THE OUTCOME!!! Spadafora had the ability to compete, the heart, and after Floyd doing Floyd with his mouth?? ALL THE DESIRE IN THE WORLD, to take Mr. P4P's mystique. When Spadafora is in condition, focused, and wants it?? He's a hell of a boxer!! That much is evident in that video!! Watch his other fights around that time and see for yourself.:hey