View Full Version : Bas Rutten training Kimbo! (video)
boxingcar
06-17-2007, 01:58 PM
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oblate
06-17-2007, 02:31 PM
i hope ray knocks him out.
barneyrub
06-17-2007, 03:10 PM
Big deal, 2 weeks training. So if Audley Harrison got 2 weeks training with Emmanuel Steward would it make any difference in a fight? No its too little too late, it will all go out the window when hit.
It takes a long time to learn new things, experience and putting them into practice.
They are going crazy over on nuthugger central [sherdog], they all hated kimbo but as soon as Bas turns up they love kimbo lol.
Anyway, Kimbo is 31 and has never trained to a level of fitness before, you dont build stamina in such a short time when you had none before.
Remember, Tyson looked good in training before the Mcbride fight, in shape and working good in public training sessions, said he felt great but had no stamina in the fight.
boxingcar
06-17-2007, 03:20 PM
Personally I'm still rooting for Mercer!
scurlaruntings
06-17-2007, 03:23 PM
I want Mercer to KO him which im sure he will.All KImbo does it take away from all that is legitimate about combat sports.If he wants to be a fighter turn pro and do it for real.Backyard brawls with crack and smack heads on internet forums isnt the way to do it.
achillesthegreat
06-17-2007, 03:37 PM
Bas is going to teach him some good shit. Already we can see from the video how versatile his approach is becoming. However I've always thought Kimbo is quite slow and musclebound. I want Mercer to land something horrible.
theunderdog
06-18-2007, 07:20 AM
in slice-vs mercer, kimbo should pray he lands 4 or 5 of his power punches before mercer lands one of his
I didn't see much from Kimbo at all. What you need to see is the sparring work. He comes foward throws a cross left hook then a knee, that tells me nothing.
I see him on the ground banging a bag, that tells me maybe he's working on one aspect of gnp. Was he a wrestler?
Well, if he was and Mercer isn't training to counter gnp and takedowns, this will be an easy fight for Kimbo to win as all he has to do is take him down and punch a guy on the ground who has no clue as to how to deal with fighting in that situation.. Some training in ground and pound, wrestling background is huge over someone who is purely relying on fighting on their feet..
If Kimbo fights standing up, he's done.. If he takes Mercer to the ground, which I expect he will try to have a prayer in this fight, he will win.. Mark my words.
SweetScienceFan
06-18-2007, 07:14 PM
Kimbo will win by ground and pound. He has not only been training for 2 weeks. He has been training for months and has came up to train with Bas Rutten just recently. I am sure that his training is far above anything that Mercer is doing now. I can assure you that Kimbo is good enough with his hands to get close enough to Mercer to get him down. Then he will pound him.
Donut62
06-18-2007, 07:23 PM
I have a feeling Mercer is in this for a paycheck and is going to get his shit pounded by Kimbo.
boxingcar
06-18-2007, 07:36 PM
Kimbo will win by ground and pound. He has not only been training for 2 weeks. He has been training for months and has came up to train with Bas Rutten just recently. I am sure that his training is far above anything that Mercer is doing now. I can assure you that Kimbo is good enough with his hands to get close enough to Mercer to get him down. Then he will pound him.
Yes , but here's the thing..
if Kimbo's pride is stronger...in other words , if Kimbo can't help himself and feels forced to try to KO mercer and to beat the guy at his own game (boxing)....
Then Mercer has a realistic chance to KO Kimbo and beat Him that way..
Or Kimbo , just stick to a simple and basic gameplan , and follow some solid instructions , keep Mercer on the ground...g&p him , win by TKO or UD.
SweetScienceFan
06-18-2007, 07:38 PM
Mercer did give one funny interview about this fight though. When the man asked him what Kimbo brings into this fight that nobody else Mercer fought has brought: Mercer replied "Ugliness".
SweetScienceFan
06-18-2007, 07:41 PM
Yes , but here's the thing..
if Kimbo's pride is stronger...in other words , if Kimbo can't help himself and feels forced to try to KO mercer and to beat the guy at his own game (boxing)....
Then Mercer has a realistic chance to KO Kimbo and beat Him that way..
Or Kimbo , just stick to a simple and basic gameplan , and follow some solid instructions , keep Mercer on the ground...g&p him , win by TKO or UD.
I don't think that Kimbo is stupid. I have seen him go for takedowns in two of his fights that are only stand up rules. So I think that if he gets hit his instincts will take over and he will go for a takedown right away. Mercer seems so weak in the legs these days that he is going to be an easy target for takedowns. Especially since his introduction into K-1 when he had his legs kicked to death.
Dostoevsky
06-18-2007, 07:48 PM
Mercer = 44
Kimbo = 33
SweetScienceFan
06-18-2007, 07:51 PM
Mercer = 44
Kimbo = 33
And that doesn't begin to explain the difference in wear and tear on the the body. While Kimbo does some back yard fights, outside of the Gannon fight he doesn't take any sort of beating. Mercer has been getting pounded on for years. Not only in his fights where his great chin is his best defense, but also all of the sparring that he has done over the years.
barneyrub
06-18-2007, 08:25 PM
RAY MERCER quotes about his training
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"I’ve been doing Ju Jitsu. We worked with a lot of people to get prepared for this fight. Dave is still with us and we have another two guys that are real experienced in this game and they’ve been showing me a lot. We have been training real hard for this fight. This training camp has been harder than training for a regular fight. There are so many things that I have learned in this MMA thing. We’ve been doing it all.
when you train, you have to be prepared for anything. So we trained and prepared for everything. Boxing is our number one thing and that is what I like to do. But I know that other things are going to come out and we are going to be ready. We are going to do some offensive things....."
"You have to train to be ready for everything. And I am not going to get in there and box. Fighters throw two hands. I hear Kimbo is working on his kicks. And I know he is going to try it so we have to be prepared for that."
"It’s going to be a great night and it’s going to show people that as old as I am I can still learn some things."
"I am just learning what they are teaching me to do....what I have been able to do is learn. I am always going to be Ray mercer, but this is martial arts, I am not just going in there to box. I am going to learn everything. I already know how to box, learning these other things is kind of rough but I’m learning it and I‘m going to have to know it. I have been training in martial arts for 9 weeks.....I’m not a wrestler but we are trying to learn this thing."
"This has been an adjustment for me. I have to prepare for more things. Training in boxing mode is all about discipline. In this you have to be just as intense because you have everything coming at you. You don’t know what he’s going to throw. You have to be prepared in a different kind of sense – you have to ready for everything."
"I had to make adjustments and I had people help me with that."
"All I care about is winning this fight. That is the most important thing in my life right now. Just like Kimbo said, his life has changed. My life has changed too. It has given me another notch in the fight game. My kids and my family...this is for them. When I get in that ring, I am willing to die for my family....I am taking this fight very seriously.
"This fight is for me and my family. I’ve got nine kids, man, and we need to win this fight and we need to win this fight big. I never trained this hard – I’ve never been in training camp for nine weeks. I’ve been doing this training thing for nine weeks. I lost my last fight [to shannon briggs] and I’ve got to bounce back. I’m not ready to quit fighting. I’m 46-years-old and that is nothing to me. It shows that I’ve got a little more experience in life. Age is nothing but a number. You can ask George Foreman the same thing. He became champion at what? 45 years old? I am doing this because I am doing this, I can. Age is nothing but a number. I know you’ve heard that before, but age is just a number. With age comes experience."
"I would definitely do this again. It is making me feel young, and if my body can hold up I’m all for it."
"We are going to do this then go have a drink."
I feel Kimbo is going to make a big splash in MMA, like anything it all comes down to dedication and Kimbo has lot's of that and has gotten in the spotlight the hard way and i feel he won't be denied now that he is there. Sure mercer has the boxing skills and experience of big fights...but Kimbo has the drive and it will lead him to victory
achillesthegreat
06-19-2007, 09:17 AM
"I’ve never been in training camp for nine weeks".
Says alot about the dedication he gave his boxing career.
iksrtfo
06-19-2007, 09:29 AM
A guy I know/trained with is on the under card. I am trining with him after the fight again.
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