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[SteelShoulders]

can i post my videos of me hitting the heavy bag in here?

[pijo]

You'll have post it on youtube then from there to here I think.

[SteelShoulders]

alright thanks for the heads up gimme just a minute here

[SteelShoulders]

fuck i have em on my myspace but that wont work here?

[McGrain]

You can't just throw up the link to your myspace page?

[SteelShoulders]

tell me if this works
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[SteelShoulders]

THERE WE GO! please critcize away, i dont have a trainer so i need all the tips i can get

[McGrain]

:lol:

Yeah it worked! You're going fucking crazy in that video! Kill Kill!

[Marvelous Marcum]

Advice? Fix everything before someone hurts you.

[McGrain]

And make sure your hands are properly taped if you're going to hit the big bag like that!

[SteelShoulders]

Advice? Fix everything before someone hurts you.
hmm? could you expand on that?

[TheRock49]

yea... go to a gym bro...

[SteelShoulders]

yea... go to a gym bro...
yea i will when i get my car back, i box mostly to stay in shape not to actually fight in matches, its the best way to get my aggresion out lol

[SteelShoulders]

btw im 6 foot 210lbs

[Mr. V.I.P.]

Join a gym bro. Best advice I can give ya. Awesome Vid I liked it.

[viru§™]

If that heavy bag could hit back it would have murdered you...

[TheRock49]

Im 6 ft 155 lbs

[SteelShoulders]

alright so i ask for advice why are some of u guys being dicks? dont say the bag would murder me say i need to work on my defense
jesus

[TheRock49]

You need to work on defence, and your weight... :D

[SteelShoulders]

You need to work on defence, and your weight... :D
what are some tips for working on defense?

[TheRock49]

what are some tips for working on defense?

Keep your hands up, you never have them up to your chin and you never bring them back to your chin after a punch. Dont loop the hooks, hooks should be all body. A descent boxer would of been able to see and counter every hook you threw. Elbows in also. You always have them flared to your sides, have them touching your side. And dont square up so much, have your none dominant side leading.

[SteelShoulders]

Keep your hands up, you never have them up to your chin and you never bring them back to your chin after a punch. Dont loop the hooks, hooks should be all body. A descent boxer would of been able to see and counter every hook you threw. Elbows in also. You always have them flared to your sides, have them touching your side. And dont square up so much, have your none dominant side leading.
thanks man, that videos about 2 weeks old, like i said i have no trainer so im kinda learning on the fly. thanks for the tips. what do you mean hooks should be all body?

[TheRock49]

(How I was tought, Im being taught by the Womens WBE world middleweight belt holder so Ima do what she says...) hooks should never ever loop, they should be quick and short. When you have your left fist up to your chin for axample, only take it out a foot or so, throw your elbow up to shoulder height, and pivot. So turn you left foot on your toes, turn your knee in, you waist and shoulders should turn so your left side is almost the only thing facing forward. Then quickly snap back to your stance. I think I explained it ok... Its hard to explain, you gotta have the visual. Hope this helps though.

[El Puma]

Lets start with not wearing a polo shirt to punch the bag in.

At least you didn't pop the collar.

[TheRock49]

The brothers got gym short on though...

[El Puma]

The brothers got gym short on though...:thinkTrue. Perhaps he was trying to be presentable to us as a newb.

So cliche doing this sort of routine in a dago-t or sweatshirt. Or worse yet, he could be all vain and go shirtless like that vain bastard, El Puma:smoke

[TheRock49]

:thinkTrue. Perhaps he was trying to be presentable to us as a newb.

So cliche doing this sort of routine in a dago-t or sweatshirt. Or worse yet, he could be all vain and go shirtless like that vain bastard, El Puma:smoke

I go shirtless once in a blue moon at my gym. I like to show off the abs! It always seem to be whenever a cute girl is in there though... Wierd coincidence!!!

[znaak]

My neck hurts.

Yeah, join a gym. :thumbsup

[El Puma]

I go shirtless once in a blue moon at my gym. I like to show off the abs! It always seem to be whenever a cute girl is in there though... Wierd coincidence!!!
:goodNot a damn thing wrong with that!

[RDJ]

I think this thread would be a decent place to start.

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[SteelShoulders]

thanks for the feedback guys

[TheRock49]

Thats what were here for!

[Cobra33]

Notice that you lean in with your head first?Notice where your hands are-down.Not good but you'll learn.And stop arm punching so much.

[Cobra33]

Work more on technique then trying to throw fast and hard.Maybe work on just getting the jab down first and then work on basic combinations and go for there.

[SteelShoulders]

thanks, im kinda teaching myself so themoreadvice the better

[aj415]

Its true that if you joined a gym you would learn quickest.

With that said if I was admin I would temp ban everyone that said it in this thread.
You guys, learn to add something or move on, your join a gym advice is played the fuck out.

RDJ you might as well get it over with and change the forum name to the "Join-a-gym forum". Jesus H.




Now to advice:

- Start off by forgeting you have ever seen Muhammad Ali box. Your guard stinks. When your not throwing punches, keep your hands up in between your chin/cheek. ESPECIALLY your right hand. Your right hand should never be below your chin when your not using, that means even when your puncing, like this

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-Keep your elbows tucked at your side, when your hitting the bag or shadowboxing you should try and feel them there. Your stance should look like this when your not puncing. This is what you need to learn first and when you go to them gym, other then doing excercises to get in shape this is how you will need to learn to stand:


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And even his right hand is low in my opinion.




- You look like you have some pop and decent footwork and are getting leverage on your hooks. Your straight punches are just arm punches, learn to sit down on them. In boxing that means bend your knees and feel your power coming from your ass/thighs and starting from your feet. Your slapping your hooks like Malinaggi or Calslapp.. I mean Calzaghe. If your going to throw a hook do it properly by making your elbow/arm COMPLETELY parrellel to the ground and then turning into it, to get the full power. Remember keep your other hand up. Should look like this

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If you don't have a trainer/gym, then record yourself then critique yourself on your fundamentals.
Don't try and be flashy. You can workout in other ways to lose weight but learn to throw punches properly with good boxing technique is the best way to go, THEN use it as a stress reliever.


When you think you've made some progress your welcome to post again here again for feedback.

[aj415]

:thinkTrue. Perhaps he was trying to be presentable to us as a newb.

So cliche doing this sort of routine in a dago-t or sweatshirt. Or worse yet, he could be all vain and go shirtless like that vain bastard, El Puma:smoke

This is not the lounge. Get lost.

[RDJ]

With that said if I was admin I would temp ban everyone that said it in this thread.
You guys, learn to add something or move on, your join a gym advice is played the fuck out.

RDJ you might as well get it over with and change the forum name to the "Join-a-gym forum". Jesus H.

As you know I share part of your criticism but I think you are overreacting. He should join a gym if he wants to box. Otherwise he should take criticism of the others. I personally did not know where to start because he basically does everything wrong so my new "join a gym" is pointing to the instructional video thread.

[Youngblood]

tnx for the kink in my neck, for starters.

Secondly, the bag is your friend. Don't hate the bag.

Thirdly, hands up...when throwing a punch make sure the other is by your chin. Start throwing straighter.

[HairyHighlander]

Fair play on firing up the vid. You need to relax first. Not sure if anyone said but keep the chin down and in, you will then not need to keep your hands as high to protect it as its gonna be lower. Fire up another video when you feel you have ironed some stuff out as someone said.

You may feel it's worse or your feeling slower but it will be better than you realise. Practise some simple patterns as RDJ's thread show's, no need for bag, slow formbuilding shadow boxing will be just as good.

Remember less is more sometimes :deal

All the best :good

[El Puma]

This is not the lounge. Get lost.:lol:

Sensitive today huh?

[aj415]

As you know I share part of your criticism but I think you are overreacting. He should join a gym if he wants to box. Otherwise he should take criticism of the others. I personally did not know where to start because he basically does everything wrong so my new "join a gym" is pointing to the instructional video thread.


Again no one is arguining the validity of telling a guy to join a gym; there is no better and faster way to learn obviously.

But am I crazy or does a bunch of guys just responding saying only that is just not seem useful or helpful? It does seem pretty stupid when the guy says he is NOT at the gym right now and asks for advice, and initially gets barraged by people saying go to the gym.

Its like someone starting a thread saying 'Please critique my drawing' with the poster uploading a drawing of gis and explaining that he doesn't have time/access to drawing classes and then everyone tells him to take drawing classes.

[aj415]

:lol:

Sensitive today huh?

Sure.

[MagnificentMatt]

I would recommend checking the stickies with videos (basic punches/stance) before anything else...

I would shadowbox just using a jab, and footwork, stepping with jab, etc. Starting slow till its in your head and you dont have to think about how to do it right.....Until you can do that, dont even throw a right hand or a hook.

[RDJ]

Again no one is arguining the validity of telling a guy to join a gym; there is no better and faster way to learn obviously.

Which makes it a very valid response.

But am I crazy or does a bunch of guys just responding saying only that is just not seem useful or helpful? It does seem pretty stupid when the guy says he is NOT at the gym right now and asks for advice, and initially gets barraged by people saying go to the gym.

Its like someone starting a thread saying 'Please critique my drawing' with the poster uploading a drawing of gis and explaining that he doesn't have time/access to drawing classes and then everyone tells him to take drawing classes.

He got different advice as well, and he wasn't scared off the board. Au contraire even, he took the advice rather well. I don't see the problem at all in this thread.

[HairyHighlander]

Whens your first fight RDJ ? I was under the assumption you had boxed or do box/compete already. Got a video of your training mate ?

Cheers

[RDJ]

Whens your first fight RDJ ? I was under the assumption you had boxed or do box/compete already. Got a video of your training mate ?

First fight will be in February, I have no training footage unfortunately.

[HairyHighlander]

Which makes it a very valid response.



He got different advice as well, and he wasn't scared off the board. Au contraire even, he took the advice rather well. I don't see the problem at all in this thread.


The "join a gym" has become quite typical. Im sure the said poster knows this, maybe it aint that easy for various reasons. He took what well ? cheap remarks about his clothing ? ( El Puma ) All power to him, he got more balls than many regulars on the forum's just posting up his vid

When i watched the video i actually thought he was taking the piss and no he isnt/wasnt. Maybe just wanted to show off his punching and hope it looked cool to someone as has been done here before and again no he isnt/wasnt.

Genuine people deserve genuine respect, regardless of capability or oooh can i say it...post count ! I bet my balls if Rummy or McGrain had come in here with that thread starter for example , they wouldnt be getting told "join a gym" :deal

Anyways

[SteelShoulders]

thanks a lot for the advice guys, im goin to work the bag in just about 20 minutes after i stretch out, ill try some of your techniques and let yaknow how it goes. Doyou guys think i should slow down my hands when hittin the bag, to get my technique better? and i cant see the instructional videos in your thread RDJ orid watch em
once again thanks for all the advice,means a lot2me

[HairyHighlander]

thanks a lot for the advice guys, im goin to work the bag in just about 20 minutes after i stretch out, ill try some of your techniques and let yaknow how it goes. Doyou guys think i should slow down my hands when hittin the bag, to get my technique better? and i cant see the instructional videos in your thread RDJ orid watch em
once again thanks for all the advice,means a lot2me


As someone mentioned, work on your jab and positioning before even throwing your right when you use the bag or even shadowbox i guess. I mentioned some light shadowboxing..more in a stretching sense, just slow and trying to keep good form......and yeah i know after a few mins you will wanna say fuck this and tear up that bag :hey

How about working left and right around the bag. Just footwork. Not easy to explain in words.

Keep it up though :good

[SteelShoulders]

yea im gonna shadowbox a round before i go at the bag today
any advice on working a speedbag ?

[HairyHighlander]

yea im gonna shadowbox a round before i go at the bag today
any advice on working a speedbag ?




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Rather than 123 as he is saying maybe just say 1 annnnnnnd 2 1 anddddd 2. Hard to explain, others maybe can help a bit. I avoided them tbh.

Hope this helps

[SteelShoulders]

so i threw 2 roundsx3 min of shadowboxing and 6 rounds x2 minutes, with my hands upto my chin and working on technique at about 75% speed, then hit the speedbag for about 6 minutes,and wow its a lotmore exhausting!

[MagnificentMatt]

so i threw 2 roundsx3 min of shadowboxing and 6 rounds x2 minutes, with my hands upto my chin and working on technique at about 75% speed, then hit the speedbag for about 6 minutes,and wow its a lotmore exhausting!

Yeah, just working out of a correct stance after being wrong is exhausting..

Doesnt take long to find out if you have too much weight on one leg either, haha.

[HairyHighlander]

so i threw 2 roundsx3 min of shadowboxing and 6 rounds x2 minutes, with my hands upto my chin and working on technique at about 75% speed, then hit the speedbag for about 6 minutes,and wow its a lotmore exhausting!

good work, gets better all the time. I just had my first road run/sprint since hmm November. 2 miles took me around 11 mins 20 !! Not good :-( My only excuse is i have done NO physical activity aside from work since then.

Things are about to change

[RDJ]

and i cant see the instructional videos in your thread RDJ orid watch em

The links don't work I see, they disabled embedding. Just look for Don Familton on youtube, you'll find them. Or just click on the video's I embedded, they'll come up in a separate window. I'll fix the video thread later on tonight.

[SteelShoulders]

The links don't work I see, they disabled embedding. Just look for Don Familton on youtube, you'll find them. Or just click on the video's I embedded, they'll come up in a separate window. I'll fix the video thread later on tonight.
thanks a lot man

[gatto]

get on your back toe

[aj415]

The "join a gym" has become quite typical. Im sure the said poster knows this, maybe it aint that easy for various reasons. He took what well ? cheap remarks about his clothing ? ( El Puma ) All power to him, he got more balls than many regulars on the forum's just posting up his vid

When i watched the video i actually thought he was taking the piss and no he isnt/wasnt. Maybe just wanted to show off his punching and hope it looked cool to someone as has been done here before and again no he isnt/wasnt.

Genuine people deserve genuine respect, regardless of capability or oooh can i say it...post count ! I bet my balls if Rummy or McGrain had come in here with that thread starter for example , they wouldnt be getting told "join a gym" :deal

Anyways


Good post.

[RDJ]

I bet my balls if Rummy or McGrain had come in here with that thread starter for example , they wouldnt be getting told "join a gym"

I actually think they would, and with a lot less courtesy.

Ps. in Rumsfeld's case the exact phrase would have been "join a gym you sack of shit" ;)

[El Puma]

Oh for fuck's sake I've had just about enough of you fuckers on your soapboxes.

Guy comes on here for advice and guess what? We gave it to him based on his level which is at the very begining and he needs a fucking gym to go to because he looks like one of those toughman contestants. He should also be reading the stickies before posting yet another redundant fucking thread that clogs this place up.

But no, we get the internet fucking heroes who just feel the need to be charitable and offer expert advice to a guy who cant be fucking asked to look at youtube, watch an actual boxing match ooooor do his own fucking research before wasting other peoples time because he comes off as "genuine" FUCK YOU

Maybe just maybe I'll show up to a job interview in sweatpants because I'm genuine. Fucking kidding me? You two should go tickle each others balls through pm before you break out into a Care Bear stare here. Want to argue me? send a pm and all apologies to RDJ but this is BULLSHIT!!!!!

[El Puma]

Like i said earlier I apologize to RDJ and any other members who may be offended at my rant but go take a look at Sherdog's site, they kick the living daylights outta us w thier training sections and don't tolerate this newb b.s.


Our goal is to exceed them not stay where we are. Fuck it, I'm going on my run.

[RDJ]

Like i said earlier I apologize to RDJ and any other members who may be offended at my rant but go take a look at Sherdog's site, they kick the living daylights outta us w thier training sections and don't tolerate this newb b.s.

Our goal is to exceed them not stay where we are. Fuck it, I'm going on my run.

Not needed at all mate. I think it's perfectly fine at this moment, without a bit of rudeness this wouldn't be ESB.

[HairyHighlander]

Oh for fuck's sake I've had just about enough of you fuckers on your soapboxes.

Guy comes on here for advice and guess what? We gave it to him based on his level which is at the very begining and he needs a fucking gym to go to because he looks like one of those toughman contestants. He should also be reading the stickies before posting yet another redundant fucking thread that clogs this place up.

"But no, we get the internet fucking heroes who just feel the need to be charitable and offer expert advice to a guy who cant be fucking asked to look at youtube, watch an actual boxing match ooooor do his own fucking research before wasting other peoples time because he comes off as "genuine" FUCK YOU"


Maybe just maybe I'll show up to a job interview in sweatpants because I'm genuine. Fucking kidding me? You two should go tickle each others balls through pm before you break out into a Care Bear stare here. Want to argue me? send a pm and all apologies to RDJ but this is BULLSHIT!!!!!

Wowww !!! You seem genuinely upset !!!:rofl :rofl :rofl

First off, Wanna argue , send pm's etc ????? Are you for real ?:rofl

Second off, regarding the trackies to the job interview. Thaa some sarcasm ? If it is then am i to take ma kitbag to ma pc desk when i log on here ? 3rd thing, redundant fucking threads cluttering up the forum ? Cant say its becoming a burden here, far from it.

He cant do his own research either ? Asking here isnt doing some research ? Read that paragraph again :yep Its beautiful

You also seem to know him quite well eh. He seems genuine to me, you seemed a tool. Stop crying Princess :yep

Regarding Sherdogs site....go join them aswell :thumbsup They dont tolerate Bullshit etc...... and....I could argue you were efectively telling the "seeds" of the sport to fuckoff. Guess we should all be intermediate regarding asking your advice now ?

Your good :hi:

[HairyHighlander]

Like i said earlier I apologize to RDJ and any other members who may be offended at my rant but go take a look at Sherdog's site, they kick the living daylights outta us w thier training sections and don't tolerate this newb b.s.


Our goal is to exceed them not stay where we are. Fuck it, I'm going on my run.

Thanks i accept the apology.

Someone posts there opinion and you spit the dummy BIGIMUS MAXIMUS

You certainly made me laugh :yep

[McGrain]

What a big old fuss about nothing.

I guess there are two ways of thinking about this and you guys are struggling to find some common ground. Fair enough.


For my part, I hit the bag like this sometimes to relieve stress, or when I've been drinking Special Brew.


Mmmmmm, Special Brew.

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I'm off for my Special Brew. MMMmmmm.

[RDJ]

:lol:

[El Puma]

:lol::lol: For fuck's sake Mcgrain, your probably doing it all wrong so I suggest you find a pub or work on your Google-Fu:smoke

With that being said....


FAQ - Training at Home (Read before Posting)
A question that comes up often involves the best method of training stand-up on your own. If your goals are to compete or just become a competent hobbyist, then there are a million reasons why "training yourself" is a bad idea. For one, any stand-up art, from boxing to muay thai, to whatever else, is very unnatural. You have to re-train your body to do movements that will feel very strange or awkward at first. There is no doubt that you will pick up bad habits that will have to be un-learned if/when you ever do decide to actually join a gym or hire a coach. Its harder to un-learn something than it is just to learn correctly the first time. Another problem with the home learners is that they pick up tips and bits of useful information and don't know how to put it together. They have heard that they have to "keep their hands up," so they focus on that. Meanwhile, their head and body are completely statue-like, they never bend at the knee, and are stiff as a board. A proper trainer helps iron out all these little tid-bits so that everything flows together a lot more smoothly. Gym-trained fighters look relaxed, smooth, and confident. They have ring generalship and a solid understanding of the fundamentals. A home-trained "fighter" is stiff, jittery, tight, and completely un-polished. The problem is that the vast majority of men think they know how to handle themselves in a fight, despite any evidence to back it up. Practice by yourself long enough, and you can fool yourself into thinking that you are doing well. That's why we see so many home videos of people "shadow boxing," or even worse, "sparring" in their backyards or bedrooms.

Now, if you are just looking to get a workout in, then feel free to whale away at a heavy bag until you're exhausted. You can definitely use it as a way to lose fat, build muscle, or just relieve some stress. If finding a gym is truly not an option due to financial problems, a lack of a worth-while gym close by, time issues, etc., then I guess that ordering instructional videos could act as a replacement, albeit a very, very poor one.

[HairyHighlander]

:rofl:rofl:rofl

Am in the heat of ma first E.S.B. bustup and you put a can of Special in front of me :yep

Been a while since i savoured such a local delicacy.

[McGrain]

:lol::lol: For fuck's sake Mcgrain, your probably doing it all wrong so I suggest you find a pub or work on your Google-Fu:smoke

:lol:

Good post by the way, that's a great summary of the situation.



Been a while since i savoured such a local delicacy.

Oh, can't have that. They don't call it "special" for nothing you know!

[SteelShoulders]

thanks i guess bro, but i box for hobby and to stay in shape, however id love to get better at technique, joining a gym isnt viable at the moment and you guys seem to know what youre talking about so i thought id be able to pick up some tip

[SteelShoulders]

so i upped the ante today and did 2x3minute rounds of shadow boxing (fucking hard) then 8x2 minute rounds on the bag, with my hands in proper position and focusing on technique more so then speed, alsoon footworkl
and wowdoes it feel different then before!

[rodney]

A complete wast of energy.
Get a proper trainer.
You are not impressing anyone.
Remember --- the heavy bag doesnt hit back.

[SteelShoulders]

A complete wast of energy.
Get a proper trainer.
You are not impressing anyone.
Remember --- the heavy bag doesnt hit back.
damn dude did you read? i dont got the time or money for a trainer right now, how am i trying to impress anyone by posting a video and asking for tips n critiques?

[RDJ]

I promised to fix the video instruction thread, but I can't. Embedding is disabled at youtube, but ESB does it automatically so I can't just post the links. When you click one, and it says embedding disabled, just click it again and it'll show up in a youtube window.

[rodney]

damn dude did you read? i dont got the time or money for a trainer right now, how am i trying to impress anyone by posting a video and asking for tips n critiques?

It will take you forever without a trainer.
Find one.
They are out there and looking for potential fighters with desire and heart.
Otherwise --- continue on --- you are getting a real good cardio work out and it will improve your fitness nevertheless.

[gatto]

dunno if anyone mentioned it yet, but you throw arm punches. and should try to get a hinge going w. ur whole body