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$.02
01-28-2009, 07:49 PM
I know shannon Briigs did.

However, I am not so sure about the others. I heard that a post prison Tyson lifted weights.

I know that Holyfield did too, especially after the first Bowe fight!

evalistinho
01-28-2009, 11:31 PM
I think Shane Mosley lifted weights also but im not sure.

TheRock49
01-29-2009, 12:10 AM
Me and about half my fight team...

Marcus
01-29-2009, 12:12 AM
I think Shane Mosley lifted weights also but im not sure.

Well it would have been a waste of roids if he didnt.

TheRock49
01-29-2009, 12:17 AM
Nice avatar Marcus, made me chuckle.

ozziebattler
01-29-2009, 05:32 AM
I know shannon Briigs did.

However, I am not so sure about the others. I heard that a post prison Tyson lifted weights.

I know that Holyfield did too, especially after the first Bowe fight!

I think u would find all pro boxers(or elite ones atleast) do a few weight based exercises...

They just do weights for a different purpose then say a bodybuilder..

When i was fighting i done low reps heavier weights...All real explosive reps...It helps build explosive strength which is the power u are aiming to build on for your punches.

Machine
01-29-2009, 06:02 AM
All of them. Those that don't would be the exception to the rule rather than the other way round. That weights are bad for boxers is an outdated mindset that went out of fashion in the 80's.

cockneyhardman
01-29-2009, 08:49 AM
I know shannon Briigs did.

However, I am not so sure about the others. I heard that a post prison Tyson lifted weights.

I know that Holyfield did too, especially after the first Bowe fight!

every single boxer that moved up through weight divisions lifted weights
unless somehow they grew they're muscles with magic potions:stir
ha ha can't believe i found this emoticon!!:lol:

Aplin
01-29-2009, 09:42 AM
Hatton uses more weights than anyother boxer I know...

cool-cat
01-29-2009, 01:14 PM
tyszu

Arka
01-29-2009, 07:07 PM
Lots of fighters in history used light weights and cables.

Randy Turpin was unusual in the fact that he apparently used to do Olympic lifting movements-the snatch and the clean.

aramini
01-29-2009, 08:20 PM
I was in Las Vegas for a long time and saw a lot of pros training. Usually before a fight I did not see them lifting excessively, but one exception was Hassim Rachman. He and Floyd Mayweather worked out at the 24 hour fitness on trop and decatur with Leonard Ellerbe all the time. Floyd would run upstairs and then go play basketball - I never saw him lift. On the other hand, Hassim went right to the weights, and, no joke, that guy was the strongest one at the gym. He is big, and was able to do a fair amount of pullups, repping with 400 to 480 lbs on the bench press, squatting ludicrous amounts of weight. I wouldn't be surprised at all if his leg work was getting over 700 lbs.

You see hatton on the pre-fight shows, and for heavyweight you saw Roy Jones doing pretty light weights really, but Hassim really pumps iron. I think his agility suffers because of it, but he is legitimately strong.

Machiavelli
01-30-2009, 01:21 AM
Roy Jones does, Berto used to/still does train with the Saints, Mayweather does, Holyfield, Tyson (post-prison), Lennox Lewis (I recall after he retired, he was on ESPN saying he'd miss training, lifting, etc.), Tszyu, Mosley, Hatton, Cotto, the list goes on and on.

cockneyhardman
01-30-2009, 06:48 AM
it's pretty obvious that most top pros who have moved throughy various weight classes have lifted weights in order to get to these weight classes
also to maintain they're size when they get there
one thing is for sure is that they did not build up by doing push ups

scurlaruntings
01-30-2009, 11:37 AM
Almost all accomplished pro`s use weights to some vary degree. Those that don't are idiots.

RDJ
01-30-2009, 12:08 PM
Every boxer uses resistance training, but not every boxer lifts weights.

Arka
01-31-2009, 09:56 AM
Every boxer uses resistance training, but not every boxer lifts weights.


Correction.Lots of professional use very light weights. Only a few lift heavy.

SouthpawSlayer
01-31-2009, 10:15 AM
every boxers uses some sort of weight training

scurlaruntings
01-31-2009, 10:45 AM
Every boxer uses resistance training, but not every boxer lifts weights.Get out of here! MOST boxers use weights. Obviously in varying degree`s. You should try it instead of being so blinkered! You`ll find it certainly helps.

RDJ
01-31-2009, 12:19 PM
Get out of here! MOST boxers use weights. Obviously in varying degree`s. You should try it instead of being so blinkered! You`ll find it certainly helps.

I already do resistance training mate. Just no weights unless I get paid for it :good

GPater11093
01-31-2009, 12:27 PM
wayne mcculloch did light weights and lots of reps

all Kronk fighters and Dundee fighters used no weights just medicine balls

roach dosent use alot of weights either with his fighters



also i have saw mayweather do weights on 24/7 but if a guy was in a gym with him and he didnt lift it wouldnt surprise me

SweetScience
02-01-2009, 11:44 AM
Did Oscar lift weights?

GPater11093
02-01-2009, 02:31 PM
from what i have seen of Oscars routines he didnt lift weights but he still could have.

i doubt he lifted with Mayweather or Roach as they generally dont let fighters lift.

Aplin
02-01-2009, 03:33 PM
RICKY HATTON 2008

Each workout lasts 20 minutes, while each set consists of 10 repetitions…
MONDAY

Standing calf raise machine

Dip your shoulders under the pneumatic pads resting on either shoulder then step onto the raised platform, keeping your back straight. Now, dangling your heels over the step, push up onto your tiptoes, then slowly lower your bodyweight down.


Leg press machine

Sat beneath the slanted machine at a daunting 45º angle, slowly draw the weight towards your backside, feel like your quads might explode then power the heft up without snapping your spine.

TUESDAY

Incline chest press machine

With your spine pressed flat against the cushioned padding, push the weight forward through its natural motion, feel your man boobs tremble, then slowly release the weight back down.


Preacher curls

Sit in this biceps-conditioning contraption, rest your elbows on the pads and reach for the weighted bar in front of you. Using your elbows for leverage, blast the weight up, tense at the top for a better pump, then lower the weight down.

WEDNESDAY

No weights

THURSDAY

Lat pulldowns

Sit down on that seated machine where you pull the weight down towards you, while keeping your spine aligned. Slowly draw the weight using your back muscles (or lats) then raise the bar to its original position.


Hamstring curls

Lying on this machine with your face down, slide your calves under the bar and then pump it up so your ankles come within five inches of your backside, then lower back down.

FRIDAY

Shoulder press machine

Sit with a handle resting above either shoulder, power the weight up, don’t fully extend, then lower it down. Absent-mindedly ogle an office girl having an asthma attack on an elliptical trainer nearby.

Triceps pulldown

Stand next to a cable machine with a straight bar dangling in front of your stomach. Grab the bar at either end and, keeping your elbows locked by your sides, pump the weight down towards your groin while ensuring your back’s straight. Then slowly raise the bar up.

ANOTHER ARTICLE 2006

Training

You cannot reinvent the wheel, the only way to make yourself stronger is to lift weights to failure. The old myths in boxing that weights make you slow are not true. When the muscle is stronger, when it contacts it will make you punch faster and stronger. Plus this strength will help you in close. If you need any proof of this just ask Billy Graham or any of the boxers I work with.

You need to split your weight training up and must never forget this is to supplement your boxing training and you need to get your weights done in about 20 minutes.

Monday - Quads (front thighs)& calves
3 x 10 leg extensions
3 x 10 leg press

3 x 10 standing calf raises
2 x 10 seated calf raises

Tuesday - Chest & biceps
3x 10 flying
3 x 10 bench press
2 x 10 incline bench press

3 x 10 standing barbell curls

Thursday - Back & hamstrings
3 x 10 close grip pull downs to the front
3 x 10 pull downs behind the neck
3 x 10 Rowing (cable or dumbbells)
1 x 10 dumbbell shrugs

3 x 10 lying hamstring curls
1 x 10 stiff leg deadlift

Friday - Shoulders & triceps
3 x 10 side lateral raises
3 x 10 shoulder press
3 x 10 rear delt

3 x 10 triceps pushdowns or presses

Always remember to warm up correctly and cool down.

Your body is 70% water the very nature of your training makes you sweat a lot. You need to drink at least 2-3 litres of water every day.

Do not think water will make you put weight on. The more you drink the more you wil urinate and sweat, getting rid of all the toxins in your body.

RDJ
02-01-2009, 03:51 PM
That may be the worst routine I've ever seen for a pro boxer. Bicep curls? Machines? Lifting till failure? WTF? :?

lefthook
02-01-2009, 04:44 PM
Whats wrong with lifting till failure?

Aplin
02-01-2009, 05:01 PM
That may be the worst routine I've ever seen for a pro boxer. Bicep curls? Machines? Lifting till failure? WTF? :?

I totally agree, and had it not been for me seeing him do it, I would think it is fake...

scurlaruntings
02-01-2009, 05:07 PM
Whats wrong with lifting till failure?Absolutely nothing. RDJ is anti weights. Works for me. Thats why im a powerhouse! :D

RDJ
02-01-2009, 05:34 PM
It's also the reason you are 60 pounds away from your natural weight :D

scurlaruntings
02-01-2009, 06:34 PM
It's also the reason you are 60 pounds away from your natural weight :DCommon misperception. Im not a blown up heavy in the slightest. I only lift once a week if that. And my weight is bang on 17 stone and hasnt fluctuated from that in 2 years. Im not on ANY supplments whatsoever apart from Cod liver oil and multi vitamins. Thats a solid heavy right thuuur pee wee! :yep

RDJ
02-01-2009, 06:41 PM
What about before those 2 years, I remember you saying you gained 50 or 60 pounds by lifting.

scurlaruntings
02-01-2009, 06:59 PM
2 years ago i was around 210-215lbs. For some reason i filled out and im now 240-243. But then i am 30 now and reaching muscle maturity. Prior to that as a teen i was 170lbs.

cockneyhardman
02-02-2009, 10:05 AM
That may be the worst routine I've ever seen for a pro boxer. Bicep curls? Machines? Lifting till failure? WTF? :?

some machines are beneficial but not others
with bicep curls there is nothing wrong with it unless you "bodybuild" them
i do them for the purpose of strengthening the bicep tendon, not to build them up
when you draw back your hand after a punch you use this tendon, and i believe it's a safe bet to strengthen them to protect against injury
this is a high speed plyometric movement basically
it's bullshit though that u must lift to failure to gain strength

cockneyhardman
02-02-2009, 10:07 AM
Whats wrong with lifting till failure?

there is nothing wrong with it if you intend to build up for the purpose of moving up in weight class, but if your already at the top end of your weight and don't want to move up in weight then it's just plain dumb

cockneyhardman
02-02-2009, 10:13 AM
from what i have seen of Oscars routines he didnt lift weights but he still could have.

i doubt he lifted with Mayweather or Roach as they generally dont let fighters lift.

i don't see how the hell mayweather or oscar could have moved up 4 or 5 weight divisions without lifting weights!
if they didn't do that then how did they get bigger?
by eating too much?

Aplin
02-02-2009, 10:32 AM
Eating loads woud be my guess... If they ain't doing weights it would be harder to gain... but I think they just cut less weight rather than put weight on for the first couple classes.

Arka
02-02-2009, 10:35 AM
That may be the worst routine I've ever seen for a pro boxer. Bicep curls? Machines? Lifting till failure? WTF? :?

In fairness, all those bench presses and curls would make Ricky very strong at hugging and tying up his opponent.

boxingtactics07
02-02-2009, 11:36 AM
Ricky Hatton has a terrible strength coach. I'm not saying he's terrible at everything, but he is here. Let's break down his weekly split (which is kind of weird in first place).

monday: random leg shit... just do squats and deadlifts.

tuesday: chest/biceps... just do regular bench press and sup-rows or chinups

thursday: back... pullups (seriously... what the hell)

friday: shoulders/triceps... military press and dips.

Boxers also benefit tremendously from doing strongman/grip-training training too, so why none of that?

RDJ
02-02-2009, 05:05 PM
His diet is perhaps even worse. Loads of supplements, not much nutrients from natural food.