Calzaghe keen on Kessler

[Kess]

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Cant wait

[DanePugilist]

I liked that article alot.

PS want to write more, but something is up with ESB or my Explorer

[ThePlugInBabies]

thanks for the link mate, good article.

[Marnoff]

I hope this gets made soon.

[sjc]

WOOHOO!!

JC = "It now seems that my next opponent will be Mikkel Kessler. Negotiations are at an advanced stage to get the fight on."

Hehe, I knew it all along... never one iota of doubt in my mind that these two would fight.

:yep

[DanePugilist]

WOOHOO!!

JC = "It now seems that my next opponent will be Mikkel Kessler. Negotiations are at an advanced stage to get the fight on."

Hehe, I knew it all along... never one iota of doubt in my mind that these two would fight.

:yepGreat:thumbsup Sarcasm 4tw. Too bad most of your posting have shown otherwise:lol: - not that I hold it against you.

[sjc]

Great:thumbsup Sarcasm 4tw. Too bad most of your posting have shown otherwise:lol: - not that I hold it against you.

Moi?? :huh

Au contraire mademoiselle! :D

[DanePugilist]

Moi?? :huh

Au contraire mademoiselle! :DJ'ai ne pas une mademoiselle, mon amis, Je suis un garcon.

[sjc]

J'ai ne pas une mademoiselle, mon amis, Je suis un garcon.

Oh shit!

:huh

[sjc]

J'ai ne pas une mademoiselle, mon amis, Je suis un garcon.

Actually... HAHA!

I've seen pulp Fiction... You're basically saying that you're not a girl you're a boy! hehe.

[boxfan99]

J'ai ne pas une mademoiselle, mon amis, Je suis un garcon.

:lol:

Looks to me like you chose to learn French instead of German.:D

[pipe wrenched]

Great link and that is the most promising news to come along in quite some time.

[DanePugilist]

:lol:

Looks to me like you chose to learn French instead of German.:DActually I only had french in 10th grade(1987). Only had german late in 8th grade because I had lived in Sweden(learning two new languages was too much for me(swedish and French).

I went to business school after that, and not regular gymnasium - unfortunately.

[DanePugilist]

Actually... HAHA!

I've seen pulp Fiction... You're basically saying that you're not a girl you're a boy! hehe.Yes, thats right - garcon can mean waiter as well - which is also discussed in Pulp Fiction.

However, I must say I love to say Au Contraire myself - instead of on the contrary.

[ron u.k.]

that was avery sensible interview but i'm sure someone will come on here and diss it.

[DanePugilist]

that was avery sensible interview but i'm sure someone will come on here and diss it.I would hate that, I thought it was a very sincere interview, and I loved it as well - even if it was from "the other camp".

It was the most sincere thing to come out as up yet in this whole affair.

[Amsterdam]

I would hate that, I thought it was a very sincere interview, and I loved it as well - even if it was from "the other camp".

It was the most sincere thing to come out as up yet in this whole affair.

The affair will pay off though and the best fight in all of boxing will commense.:good

Joe Calzaghe vs. Mikkel Kessler is a match of TITANIC proportions, two masters facing off for the divisions first truly Undisputed Champion, how can anyone deny that this is NOT that most intriguing fight in boxing in the near future.

If Kessler wins, he is thrusted into the P4P rankings.

If Calzaghe wins, he is a cemented ATG and the cemented #1 SMW in the divisions history.

Whoever wins, the first Undisputed SMW is crowned, in a division that is one of the best in boxing currently.

:happy :happy :happy :happy

[Faetter_BR]

"The bigger issue is the venue for the fight."

Interesting - Palle made it clear from the start that Kessler will go to England if ****** offers the same deal to Kessler as Palle has to Calzaghe. That the deal isn't signed yet could indicate that this might very well happen...

But what a fight if it comes of - 39 and 42 fights undefeated - both unified champions - been awhile since we saw a fight like that...

[China_hand_Joe]

Fight of the Millenium, so far.

[jc]

Im begging the promoters not to fuk this up!





Calzaghe comfortable UD...thats if he doesnt get stiffed by crooked Viking judges that is! :tong

[THN]

:!: :yep :happy :hey
If it happen in Copenhagen or Cardiff , i'll be there! :smoke :good

[jc]

it would be massive, i really really hope they sort it out and soon..

and preferably in copenhagen..

ill meet you brits in copenhagen with a cold case of beer and a goddamn happy face

I Rovers fan from Denmark... :think

[China_hand_Joe]

I think Kessler will win maybe.

[pipe wrenched]

China Hand my sarcasm detecter is broke, were you serious???

[pipe wrenched]

I am from the American side of the pond and have an equally huge amount of respect for both bad ass fighters. I have yet to make a pick as I'm not sure and wouldn't mind which Champ won as long as the fight is full of all the greatness that one can only imagine it would have to be!!

[China_hand_Joe]

I don't know, I've been having these dreams...nightmares rather.

[pipe wrenched]

I hear ya Joe! Nice post. These are 2 of the best in any division and can't wait to hear the great news that an agreement has been reached.

[van the man]

I don't know, I've been having these dreams...nightmares rather.

feel free to fill us in on them:D

[Decebal]

I don't know, I've been having these dreams...nightmares rather.

:patsch dreams tend to be just a manifestation of our subconscious, bringing to the surface things that we know or feel deep down...:shock: ...China Joe!!!:scaredas:

[THN]

Kessler is my man, but i like Calgazhe and this fight should be banned for kids under 18 years. I just can't wait to find out how good these guy's really are,
I can imagine both fighters leaving the ring with ther pride, even the looser will gain if the fight is as good as i think it will be.:!:

[China_hand_Joe]

:patsch dreams tend to be just a manifestation of our subconscious, bringing to the surface things that we know or feel deep down...:shock: ...China Joe!!!:scaredas:Why was I sparring Ivan Calderon 2 nights ago?

[Decebal]

Why was I sparring Ivan Calderon 2 nights ago?

do you really want to know the answer, China Joe?:smooch

[van the man]

Kessler is my man, but i like Calgazhe and this fight should be banned for kids under 18 years. I just can't wait to find out how good these guy's really are,
I can imagine both fighters leaving the ring with ther pride, even the looser will gain if the fight is as good as i think it will be.:!:

kinda fell the same way, and i see it very even and wouldnt put my money on either guy.......but i truely hope kessler pulls out as the winner! my heart will go bumbumbumbumbumbum like a mashinegun when(if) they enters the ring:happy

[China_hand_Joe]

do you really want to know the answer, China Joe?:smoochI asked a question.

[deram]

"The bigger issue is the venue for the fight."

Interesting - Palle made it clear from the start that Kessler will go to England if ****** offers the same deal to Kessler as Palle has to Calzaghe. That the deal isn't signed yet could indicate that this might very well happen...

But what a fight if it comes of - 39 and 42 fights undefeated - both unified champions - been awhile since we saw a fight like that...

Taylor-Spinks?

Nah, this one will be historical, but mostly for entirely different reasons. The reason being that these two are arguably both current top 10 p4p fighters in terms of skill level. They are currently a level above the rest in an already deep and good division.

It is one of those megafights that only come about ever so rarely.

Most "mega fights" are really just "one name agaisnt another" but without REAL substance (one example is the Taylor-Spinks fight and another the Tarver-Hopkins fight).

This one is the real thing. That's all there is to it.
:happy

[teetop]

On calzaghe's website right after the manfrdeo fight he posted on the front that he didn't break his hand like he feared he had. Now, in his column he says he did? It's on his website right now.
WTF! Is he lying about all this shite about the kessler fight too?!

[China_hand_Joe]

On calzaghe's website right after the manfrdeo fight he posted on the front that he didn't break his hand like he feared he had. Now, in his column he says he did? It's on his website right now.
WTF! Is he lying about all this shite about the kessler fight too?!
It was a broken wrist at one point too.

[DanePugilist]

The affair will pay off though and the best fight in all of boxing will commense.:good

Joe Calzaghe vs. Mikkel Kessler is a match of TITANIC proportions, two masters facing off for the divisions first truly Undisputed Champion, how can anyone deny that this is NOT that most intriguing fight in boxing in the near future.

If Kessler wins, he is thrusted into the P4P rankings.

If Calzaghe wins, he is a cemented ATG and the cemented #1 SMW in the divisions history.

Whoever wins, the first Undisputed SMW is crowned, in a division that is one of the best in boxing currently.

:happy :happy :happy :happyAmen to that, my friend. As someone said - lets all hope that both can walk away with their pride intact. I am pretty certain this will be the case.

[DanePugilist]

Whats wrong with removing the no. 1 contender for his ring belt? Especially when he can't make the fights vs the more popular names.

[pipe wrenched]

This should be the fight of the decade!!

[PrideOfWales]

The fight will be a damp squib. But I'll still be there to watch it.

[Faetter_BR]

This won't be fight of the decade for one single reason

Kessler has a gameplan that doesn't change and hasn't changed in any of his fights thus far - the gameplan works for him and he'll believe it will work against Joe Calzaghe.

Due to this, Kessler is either going to out-box Calzaghe all night or Calzaghe is going to out-box Kessler all night

I take the latter, with TKO late to Calzaghe.

Why the late TKO??? - after all Calzaghe has only stopped one in his last six fights - some of them versus opponents that are "stopable".

Kessler adapted just fine against Andrade - I'm not saying Andrade is near the level of Calzaghe, but his style forced Kessler away from what you call his gameplan and Kessler adapted fine. Versus a fighter like Andrade you need good footwork and counterabilities - Kessler showed just that, where he versus Beyer/Lucas/Siaca showed little footwork as he controlled the fight from the distance/middle.

So there is no question he can adapt - if he can do it well enough to beat Calzaghe - well hoepfully time will tell.

[DanePugilist]

Why the late TKO??? - after all Calzaghe has only stopped one in his last six fights - some of them versus opponents that are "stopable".

Kessler adapted just fine against Andrade - I'm not saying Andrade is near the level of Calzaghe, but his style forced Kessler away from what you call his gameplan and Kessler adapted fine. Versus a fighter like Andrade you need good footwork and counterabilities - Kessler showed just that, where he versus Beyer/Lucas/Siaca showed little footwork as he controlled the fight from the distance/middle.

So there is no question he can adapt - if he can do it well enough to beat Calzaghe - well hoepfully time will tell.I wholeheartedly agree with this. No one has ever come this much forward against Kessler, as Andrade did it that fight. Still Kessler picked the pace - and showed his counterpunching abilities. As always he didnt do anything stupid - and never got lured into doing stupid things.

An almost flawless exihibition of true boxing skills. Only thing missing was more uppercuts.

[DanePugilist]

Calzaghe's last five fights

Manfredo - stopped
Bika - all chin
Lacy - should've been stopped
Ashira - broken hand, still pitched a shutout
Veit - stopped

But hey, not worth arguing with you, you're trying to say Kessler adapted against Andrade, I didn't see him do anything different to the jab jab jab jab jab overhand right jab jab jab back up back up jab jab jab jab jab routine that he always does.I can only say this again - check out the stats of the fight and you will know that Kesslers powerpunches almost equalled the amount of jabs. And did so with 50% hit ratio.

But for arguements sake - how would you box a fighter that comes forward constantly for 12 rounds and has a chin of granite - while you, yourself has one of the best jabs combined with excellent footwork, while knowing the other guys only chance of winning is a punchers chance?

[Astola]

Bollocks to Amsterdam/Dane.

Calzaghe is already an ATG.
Calzaghe is already #1 CHAMP of the SMW.

Beating Kessler won't take him much further than he is because Kessler's competition there after is going to be limited to Froch, Bute, Inkin - unproven,unknown fighters..

Roy Jones Jr is the best that has ever been at 168 - Calzaghe is the best champion due to his reign and defenses, RJJ would've beat any version of Calzaghe.. that's a fact.

This fight is more about pay cheque and finality to the belts for Calzaghe - when he decimates Kessler in a lacklustre fare, he's still going to have to find a Taylor/B-Hop/Dawson fight to really cement himself as an ATG and have any chance at gaining ground on RJJ.

Well I guess the best career choice for Joe is to retire - undefeated. With Manfredo as his last fight - cementing his legacy....

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?

[Faetter_BR]

Calzaghe's last five fights

Manfredo - stopped
Bika - all chin
Lacy - should've been stopped
Ashira - broken hand, still pitched a shutout
Veit - stopped

But hey, not worth arguing with you, you're trying to say Kessler adapted against Andrade, I didn't see him do anything different to the jab jab jab jab jab overhand right jab jab jab back up back up jab jab jab jab jab routine that he always does.

Well if you can't see the difference in style between the Kessler that beat Andrade and the Kessler that beat say Beyer or Lucas, then there is no point arguing. Put just to point to the most obvious difference:

Versus Beyer/Lucas/Siaca Kessler was in control - he was the one making the fight - moving forward always had the right distance and in over all control. Pressure - half a step strait back and counter - much to that recepy.

Versus Andrade Kessler was physicly push back for most of the fight - and Kessler boxed classic counterboxing - circling the attacking Andrade and countering. and if you want a little inside fighting - toe-to-toe go see round 12.

Calzaghe last 12 fights:

Manfredo - stopped, but Manfredo was never hurt, so it was stopped not due to Calzaghe's power, but due to Manfredo's inactivity and a referee that stopped it early.
Bika - all chin - says who??? - Kessler had him down in sparring wearing big glows and headgear - Bika has a good chin, but he is stopable
Lacy - should've been stopped - no it shouldn't - if that had been the way to "judge" a fight then Ali would have lost to Big Georg...
Ashira - broken hand, still pitched a shutout - Ashira has a very shaky chin - should have been possible.
Veit - stopped - has a very bad chin!
Salem - W12 - by all accounts has a good chin although he was down versus Echols and Calzaghe and stopped by Bute.

I think Calzaghe has the power of his younger days, but I don't think his hands can deliever anymore - he broke his hands on both Ashira and Manfredo.

I think Calzaghe has a very good chance of beating Kessler, but I don't see it being on (T)KO.

[Decebal]

I think Calzaghe has a very good chance of beating Kessler, but I don't see it being on (T)KO.

:good

[Faetter_BR]

its easy to see, your again doing conclusions based on what your mamma is wearing at her job.. nothing

sinking to his level - but damn that's funny :yep :yep :yep

[Faetter_BR]

fuch hi and his level, im drunk and having a blast.. by the way you are absolutely rigtht, it was bloody funny:lol:

well can't say that I'm sober either :) - I'm of course going to be stealing that remark and passing it of as my own :smoke

[boxfan99]

I can only say this again - check out the stats of the fight and you will know that Kesslers powerpunches almost equalled the amount of jabs. And did so with 50% hit ratio.

But for arguements sake - how would you box a fighter that comes forward constantly for 12 rounds and has a chin of granite - while you, yourself has one of the best jabs combined with excellent footwork, while knowing the other guys only chance of winning is a punchers chance?

You know these stats are wrong! Only Blocky knows the real stats.:lol:

[youthmann]

Hi, lets assume the fight will go on.

Lets make some bets Blocky...

Be ready be se JC loose - face the facts...

Make me a bet........

[youthmann]

Hi Mate - Kessler won't loose that fight,
don't worry.

[Faetter_BR]

You know these stats are wrong! Only Blocky knows the real stats.:lol:

yeah you find these fake ones all over the Internet:

Total:
Kessler:
Forsøg: 856
Træffere: 348
I alt 41%

Andrade:
Forsøg: 923
Træffere: 95
I alt 10%

Jabs:
Kessler:
Forsøg: 532
Træffere: 188
I alt 35%

Andrade:
Forsøg: 390
Træffere: 40
I alt 10%

Powerpunches:
Kessler:
Forsøg: 324
Træffere: 160
I alt 49%

Andrade:
Forsøg: 533
Træffere: 55
I alt 10%

856 punches thrown - that's a pretty high workrate for a guy with stamina-problems...

[langshof]

I wholeheartedly agree with this. No one has ever come this much forward against Kessler, as Andrade did it that fight. Still Kessler picked the pace - and showed his counterpunching abilities. As always he didnt do anything stupid - and never got lured into doing stupid things.

An almost flawless exihibition of true boxing skills. Only thing missing was more uppercuts.

- and body shots!

[boxfan99]

yeah you find these fake ones all over the Internet:

Total:
Kessler:
Forsøg: 856
Træffere: 348
I alt 41%

Andrade:
Forsøg: 923
Træffere: 95
I alt 10%

Jabs:
Kessler:
Forsøg: 532
Træffere: 188
I alt 35%

Andrade:
Forsøg: 390
Træffere: 40
I alt 10%

Powerpunches:
Kessler:
Forsøg: 324
Træffere: 160
I alt 49%

Andrade:
Forsøg: 533
Træffere: 55
I alt 10%

856 punches thrown - that's a pretty high workrate for a guy with stamina-problems...

They are all wrong and Blocky is always right (In Blockyland anyway:nut ). You ought to know by now that Blocky only accepts facts if they support his case.

[Grant1]

Well if you can't see the difference in style between the Kessler that beat Andrade and the Kessler that beat say Beyer or Lucas, then there is no point arguing. Put just to point to the most obvious difference:

Versus Beyer/Lucas/Siaca Kessler was in control - he was the one making the fight - moving forward always had the right distance and in over all control. Pressure - half a step strait back and counter - much to that recepy.

Versus Andrade Kessler was physicly push back for most of the fight - and Kessler boxed classic counterboxing - circling the attacking Andrade and countering. and if you want a little inside fighting - toe-to-toe go see round 12.

Calzaghe last 12 fights:

Manfredo - stopped, but Manfredo was never hurt, so it was stopped not due to Calzaghe's power, but due to Manfredo's inactivity and a referee that stopped it early.
Bika - all chin - says who??? - Kessler had him down in sparring wearing big glows and headgear - Bika has a good chin, but he is stopable
Lacy - should've been stopped - no it shouldn't - if that had been the way to "judge" a fight then Ali would have lost to Big Georg...
Ashira - broken hand, still pitched a shutout - Ashira has a very shaky chin - should have been possible.
Veit - stopped - has a very bad chin!
Salem - W12 - by all accounts has a good chin although he was down versus Echols and Calzaghe and stopped by Bute.

I think Calzaghe has the power of his younger days, but I don't think his hands can deliever anymore - he broke his hands on both Ashira and Manfredo.

I think Calzaghe has a very good chance of beating Kessler, but I don't see it being on (T)KO.

How did you score the fight then ? And how the hell would the great man have lost to Foreman when he knocked him out ??

[boxfan99]

How did you score the fight then ? And how the hell would the great man have lost to Foreman when he knocked him out ??

:roll:

[Axe]

Actually I only had french in 10th grade(1987). Only had german late in 8th grade because I had lived in Sweden(learning two new languages was too much for me(swedish and French).

I went to business school after that, and not regular gymnasium - unfortunately.

You're a pretty bright guy then...although Europe is full of those, nowadays.

[DanePugilist]

- and body shots!At first I wanted to write that as well - but I have long ago come to the conclusion based on analysis from watching the fight multiple times - that body shots versus a forward launching unorthodox guy with very long reach would put Kessler at unnecessary risk - he even did it a few times - and got hit almost everytime in the process - while when not doing it - he almost never got hit. Still the head was wide open for bashing. The "sucker" just didn't wanna go down:lol:.

So my conclusion is - he did the right thing in that match - and hoped that Andrades chin wouldn't hold forever.

[DanePugilist]

You know these stats are wrong! Only Blocky knows the real stats.:lol:Sorry I forgot:lol:. Mih dumm - mih ne'er lurn.

[boxfan99]

Sorry I forgot:lol:. Mih dumm - mih ne'er lurn.

:rofl

[DanePugilist]

:rofl
The real blocky stats are:

Kessler: Jabs: thrown: 600 landed: 200.
Power punches: thrown: 30 landed: 10.

Andrade: Jabs: thrown: 0(he doesn't know how).
landed: 1(freak accident).
Powerpunches: thrown: Andrade has no power, so: 0.
Pillow air punches: thrown: 900 landed: 90.

[Amsterdam]

The real blocky stats are:

Kessler: Jabs: thrown: 600 landed: 200.
Power punches: thrown: 30 landed: 10.

Andrade: Jabs: thrown: 0(he doesn't know how).
landed: 1(freak accident).
Powerpunches: thrown: Andrade has no power, so: 0.
Pillow air punches: thrown: 900 landed: 90.

There it is, Blockhead's account of the fight.:good

[Kostello]

I thought that title said Kelly Pavilik... sorry... I'm drunk...

Calzaghe wouldn't talk about that.

[Korn_06]

I think like other posters here that Kessler is in fact able to adjust his gameplan. Since he has world class straight punches there is not really any reason for him to neglect them. But Blocky here lets this to be Kesslers downfall and shortcomming. Calzaghe is definitly better than Kessler in some areas and vice versa.

One of the biggest questions IMO is what version of Calzaghe will show up on the fight night. I am sure that Kessler will be "there" while we are never really sure what version of Calzaghe we will see.

Unless it is the sharpest version of Calzaghe we will see, then this will be one sided for Kessler. But if it is the best of Calzaghe that comes, which I hope, then it will be very interesting.

Kessler so far only lost very few rounds in his career. I worry Calzaghe doesnt have the hands to KO Kessler anymore. If Calzaghe wins it will either be Kessler resigning on his chair or by a decission. But I can not really see it.

Kessler will not dominate as he has done so far, but he will win. 70 - 30 for Kessler.