has floyd bin droped in sparring ever

[SERGEANT_WRIGHT]

cause he's never in the ring bin put dwn so just wondering has he ever in sparring dnt mind if theres no vids cuz theres most likely not any vids but just womdering if so how long ago and any name if possible.

[Relentless]

fuck you.

[Goose]

cause he's never in the ring bin put dwn so just wondering has he ever in sparring dnt mind if theres no vids cuz theres most likely not any vids but just womdering if so how long ago and any name if possible.
Floyd wuz dropped by Joodah, his hand touched da canvas, comprehend?

[SweetScienceFan]

I remember a video of Paul Spadafora putting a clinic on Floyd Mayweather floating around the internet.

[Marnoff]

Judah knocked him down.

[JamRos]

I dropped him in a street fight.. he was with Zab Judah I beat them both up bad. Then I saw Oscar Delo Joya I beat him up too. then I saw God I ask him god why on earth did you give me good looks, intelligence, money all those girls.. long story..

[Jovanie]

iv no ida bro but i wld imagn he hs

[Antwuan Maxx]

Supposedly, Mark Suarez dropped him in sparring with a body shot years back. There was a story about it on some site prior to Cintron-Suarez. Also, Kid Diamond allegedly broke one of Floyd's ribs in a sparring session.

[SERGEANT_WRIGHT]

hey relentless an p4p champ dnt talk to me like that im one of floyds biggist fans read my posts im always on ur side in debates rellentlees an im always backing up biggame or bigtime always i got 4 of pbf's am fights an all hs profights aswel as interviews loads of em an loads of training sessions im not a hater im a lover of floyed i was just curious as ive never seen hi put dwn in a bout an as they say everyfighters touched the canvas at some pointeven if its in the gym so was askin no hate intended hes my favorite o apolagies please

[rustyj]

I think vicious boxer has u knw. Kayoed him when his sweatband flew off and caught PBF in the eye. Roger and Leonard dove into the ring and then sumbody shouted SECURITAYYYY!!! Then Joel Judah flew in. All the while PBF is in a coma thanks to the vicious nature of our ESB champion!

[Jovanie]

does everyone from south east london talk like a ghetto superstar?

[SweetScienceFan]

I found this video on youtube of Paul Spadafora dominating Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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[platnumpapi]

zab made his glove touch the canvas, do you call that a knockdown ?
i meant technically its knockdown but lets get real we are talking about pbf getting put on his ass.

um he put his self down when he hit um whats his name on the head and he went down because of the pain in his hand.

whats the white boy he sparred against, did he knock him down in sparring, sparrrrrrr cant think of it.

[lucasehr]

Regarding Mayweather getting knocked down by Judah? Are you guys talking about your personal opinion? I understand the concept of glove touching=down, but I don't remember that in the Judah fight. I don't remember him ever having a round worse than 10-9, maybe I'm wrong. To the best of my knowledge PBF has been down once, and that was because his glove did touch. But years ago, not against Zab. I don't know about in sparring, I guess watch that video that was posted (I haven't yet).

[elTerrible]

I heard a while ago of Eric Morales giving him a good workout sparring a few years ago. It seems strange cause he is smaller but its possible they trained together because they were both under Bob Arum at the time.

[lmartin]

Actually Floyd went down to one knee after hurting his hand in his title defense with Carlos "El Famoso" Hernandez in the sixth round and took a count. That was an official knockdown but not 'really' one if you know what I mean.

[ayala]

I had heard that w

[Danny Ocean]

most probably most fighters get a lesson in sparring whether there outta shape or its their job to

[ayala]

I had heard that William Joppy dropped him in sparring for the when he was preparing for Oscar De La Hoya.Again I don't know how true it is.

[Cobra33]

Damn Spadafora whipped Mayweather's ass in sparring.And don't tell me Mayweather wasn't in shape.He came into the gym and CALLED OUT Spadafora.

[pit]

I found this video on youtube of Paul Spadafora dominating Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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To be Honest floyd was coming off long layoff from his shoulder injury and Spad was a week away from his fight .. there not a whole lot you can read into that situation .

[C Money]

To be Honest floyd was coming off long layoff from his shoulder injury and Spad was a week away from his fight .. there not a whole lot you can read into that situation .


:lol:

3 months?? Is that the definition of long layoff??

Now, suddenly there was a shoulder injury??:lol: The original excuse was he was out of shape.

BTW?? What you see in these 'highlites" are a joke compared to what took place during the full 6 rounds.

Spat beat the tar outta Floyd boy:good That's why Floyd ducked him for over 3 years and then finally made him an "offer" as soon as Spadafora hit REHAB for his alcohol and drug issues which were onset with the arrival of his ex-girlfriend.

BTW?? I have the entire tape and will 1 day, put it out there, well.. HERE(Lucky ESB posters):D

It's all about TIMING, and if we can keep Spat out of jail and away from the curse of his life in Nadine Russo(ex-girlfriend whom he shot in a drunken state after Russo pulled his gun on him) then he may get the opportunity to revive his career. A very talented career which has unfortunately been tarnished and set off track. One might note that ms. russo and the sobriety issues started prior to the Dorin fight and IMO played a very large role in the unsatisfactory performance that Spat delivered there.


Unfortunately?? At the time of this post SPat is yet again in jail awaiting a hearing on a vioaltion of his parole THANKS AGAIN TO MS. RUSSO:good The devil's spawn moved from Pittsburgh to Erie where Spat has been since his release and has been trying to flush his life completely down the toilet.

Spadafora actually filed for a PFA restraining order because Ms. russo threatened to cut off his dick while sleeping and threatned to crash her vehicle into a wall with Spadafora's young son in the back seat!!!
Two days after Spat filed, Russo filed for a PFA and alleged that Spadafora had dragged her by her hair and hit her. Since Spadafora's release conditions SPECIFIED that he is to have no contact with Russo, they jailed him and he is currently awaiting his parole hearing on the matter.

Spadafora has been issued a marriage license in Erie to marry aformer girlfriend and mother of Spadafora's two daughters. Ms. Russo is certainly not very happy about that:good

[Silver]

c money, you reall think spadafora is that good, that mayweather ducked him?

[C Money]

c money, you reall think spadafora is that good, that mayweather ducked him?

At the time of that session?? YES, that's why Floyd got beat on and embarrassed. That took place in DEC 99, Floyd refused to dicuss Spat until mid 2003 and finally made an "offer" only two days after Spadafora hit rehab. A fucking DISGRACE:good

The facts speak for theselves.

Now, a lot has transpired between then and now and how close Spadafora can be to the form he had then, remains to be seen but HE DID BEAT FLOYD's ASS.

Now, many talk shit about "sparring" and what have you, but PBF sought out Spat, talked immense shit, and got smacked down.

[C Money]

I think I remember Jim Lampley saying something about Kid Damond knocking down Floyd in sparring with a body shot. I could have heard it wrong though.:huh


I remember hearing that report the day it happened, on another site. Again, PBf talked a lot of shit calling Kid D Chinese and such and supposedly, KId D did put him down on a body shot.

I didnt see that event but i can tell you that Spadafora did some wonderful early bodywork on Floyd and that's not something PBf seems to enjoy:lol:

[Silver]

At the time of that session?? YES, that's why Floyd got beat on and embarrassed. That took place in DEC 99, Floyd refused to dicuss Spat until mid 2003 and finally made an "offer" only two days after Spadafora hit rehab. A fucking DISGRACE:good

The facts speak for theselves.

Now, a lot has transpired between then and now and how close Spadafora can be to the form he had then, remains to be seen but HE DID BEAT FLOYD's ASS.

Now, many talk shit about "sparring" and what have you, but PBF sought out Spat, talked immense shit, and got smacked down.but you have to know that its sparring. just because because he got the better of him in sparring dosnet gurantee he would have beaten mayweather in a real match.

[C Money]

but you have to know that its sparring. just because because he got the better of him in sparring dosnet gurantee he would have beaten mayweather in a real match.

AGREED.


But why did it take 3 years and rehab to get an "offer" for a real fight??:lol: :lol: :lol: BTW, Spadafora's legal issue's were onset and he couldnt get licensed which prevented the 'fight' from happening and was then jailed. Floyd did what he did because he got what he got:good


Also, there are different variables surrounding "sparring'. Given the circumstances of that day and the amount of SHIT Floyd talked, that was more of a fight in the gym, than a "sparring" session.

Lucky for Floyd it was a fight in the gym and they didnt just line up a shot at Spat's IBf title in the ring:good Spadafora, out boxed, out fought, and if they went 12??:lol: PBF wasnt likely to see the 12th that day.

[C Money]

Damn son you must be a noob or something. This tape appears here every now and again and everyone knows Floyd was off season, out of shape, etc, while Spaddy was heading up to a fight. Floyd was merely giving him some work and some of you idiots think this is a real fight or something. Wow you got a lot to learn about how boxing works kid. Look how slow and lethargic Floyd is and how he has to lay down after the round on the floor even though he barely threw anything and just sat on the ropes the entire time.
Floyd would beat Spadafora worst than he did Angel Manfredy your other great white hope if they ever fought.


:hi:


Did my Hamed statements really twist you that much??:lol:

Uh... I HAVE THE TAPE and that's 99, so NOOB??:nonono :nonono :nonono Sad that you would even try to suggest that shit:-( :-( :-(

You and most of the rest of the world havent seen the tape in it's entirety and what you see on these "highlites' are more like "lowlights":lol: I would caution you against speaking on it with authority when you have not seen it.

Just to give you some CLARITY, it was dec99 3 months after Floyd's last fight and 3 months before his next fight, PBF went to that GYM looking for Spat and it was to test the waters at 35 seeing Spat as the weakest link, not to 'give" Spat some work:lol:

Further?? Just like I told Silver, yes it was sparring, BUT WHY DID IT TAKE 3 years and rehab to get an offer for a real fight??:D


BTW?? When did this become a race issue?? I could give a flying fuck about color, it's what happens when the bell rings that matters and THERE HAS BEEN GREAT CHAMPIONS of many races.
Funny though, Floyd was talking a lot of racist shit to Spadafora, before Spat put him in HIS PLACE.

Angel Manfredy?? PLease......... I couldnt stand that dude but PBF and Spat both beat him so he's IRRELEVANT!!!!!!!!!!!

[Silver]

AGREED.


But why did it take 3 years and rehab to get an "offer" for a real fight??:lol: :lol: :lol: BTW, Spadafora's legal issue's were onset and he couldnt get licensed which prevented the 'fight' from happening and was then jailed. Floyd did what he did because he got what he got:good


Also, there are different variables surrounding "sparring'. Given the circumstances of that day and the amount of SHIT Floyd talked, that was more of a fight in the gym, than a "sparring" session.

Lucky for Floyd it was a fight in the gym and they didnt just line up a shot at Spat's IBf title in the ring:good Spadafora, out boxed, out fought, and if they went 12??:lol: PBF wasnt likely to see the 12th that day.who knows why he wasnt offered a fight in 99' but you maybe putting too much on it when you say mayweather was terrified of him till 03

[C Money]

who knows why he wasnt offered a fight in 99' but you maybe putting too much on it when you say mayweather was terrified of him till 03

Well, Spadafora's camp made several attempts between 99 and 03 to get a fight with Floyd, PBF appeared on FNF in an interview with Kellerman shortly after the incident and Floyd almost pissed himself on camera saying " I dont want to talk about Spadafora", and over 3 years later but two or 3 days INTO REHAB the fax machine suddenly spit out an offer for the fight:good In reality, PBf should have fought Spadafora in 2000 or 2001 and would have added the IBF lightweight belt to his collection, IF that day was such an "off' day. The proof is in the pudding and not making pudding doesnt prove anything either.

Those facts, a long with all the issues at 40, and 47, show that Floyd hasnt faced the TOP OPPOSITION of his ERA.

All I hope for?? Is that a fighter like Floyd will step up and be willing to fight the best and eliminate any/all questions surrounding guy's he's avoided. Will Spat still be relevant? Hard to say right now, but there's other fish to fry like SSM, Margarito vs Williams winner, Cotto, and possibly HAtton.

[pit]

:lol:

3 months?? Is that the definition of long layoff??

Now, suddenly there was a shoulder injury??:lol: The original excuse was he was out of shape.

BTW?? What you see in these 'highlites" are a joke compared to what took place during the full 6 rounds.

Spat beat the tar outta Floyd boy:good That's why Floyd ducked him for over 3 years and then finally made him an "offer" as soon as Spadafora hit REHAB for his alcohol and drug issues which were onset with the arrival of his ex-girlfriend.

BTW?? I have the entire tape and will 1 day, put it out there, well.. HERE(Lucky ESB posters):D

It's all about TIMING, and if we can keep Spat out of jail and away from the curse of his life in Nadine Russo(ex-girlfriend whom he shot in a drunken state after Russo pulled his gun on him) then he may get the opportunity to revive his career. A very talented career which has unfortunately been tarnished and set off track. One might note that ms. russo and the sobriety issues started prior to the Dorin fight and IMO played a very large role in the unsatisfactory performance that Spat delivered there.


Unfortunately?? At the time of this post SPat is yet again in jail awaiting a hearing on a vioaltion of his parole THANKS AGAIN TO MS. RUSSO:good The devil's spawn moved from Pittsburgh to Erie where Spat has been since his release and has been trying to flush his life completely down the toilet.

Spadafora actually filed for a PFA restraining order because Ms. russo threatened to cut off his dick while sleeping and threatned to crash her vehicle into a wall with Spadafora's young son in the back seat!!!
Two days after Spat filed, Russo filed for a PFA and alleged that Spadafora had dragged her by her hair and hit her. Since Spadafora's release conditions SPECIFIED that he is to have no contact with Russo, they jailed him and he is currently awaiting his parole hearing on the matter.

Spadafora has been issued a marriage license in Erie to marry aformer girlfriend and mother of Spadafora's two daughters. Ms. Russo is certainly not very happy about that:good


geez you are the most annoying moron ,, Al bersteine make reference to the fact that Floyd was out with an injury and was for more then 3 months get a clue floyds last fight with castillio was 4/02 spaddy fight with holbaek was 11/02 that a span of 7 months learn to count , and yes he was out of shape do to the injury ..
and as you can see floyd looks around 150 in the video he's a lot bigger then spad and this is when Floyd was fighting at 135 in any case he re matched and beat the king of 135 and I have no doubt he (Castillio) would have Spad cooking him breakfast butt naked with a lace apron and house shoes on.

[Silver]

Well, Spadafora's camp made several attempts between 99 and 03 to get a fight with Floyd, PBF appeared on FNF in an interview with Kellerman shortly after the incident and Floyd almost pissed himself on camera saying " I dont want to talk about Spadafora", and over 3 years later but two or 3 days INTO REHAB the fax machine suddenly spit out an offer for the fight:good In reality, PBf should have fought Spadafora in 2000 or 2001 and would have added the IBF lightweight belt to his collection, IF that day was such an "off' day. The proof is in the pudding and not making pudding doesnt prove anything either.

Those facts, a long with all the issues at 40, and 47, show that Floyd hasnt faced the TOP OPPOSITION of his ERA.

All I hope for?? Is that a fighter like Floyd will step up and be willing to fight the best and eliminate any/all questions surrounding guy's he's avoided. Will Spat still be relevant? Hard to say right now, but there's other fish to fry like SSM, Margarito vs Williams winner, Cotto, and possibly HAtton.well its in the past now and all the guys you mentioned are better then spadafora, now anyway. hopfully mayweather gets back in the 147 pound mix. he is still technically the champ there anyway.

[Pimp C]

This guy C Money is too much. He always talks about Spaddy owning PBF in sparring. Anyone who knows boxing knows PBF beats the shit out of Paulie in a boxing match except this idiot.:-(

[Relentless]

This guy C Money is too much. He always talks about Spaddy owning PBF in sparring. Anyone who knows boxing knows PBF beats the shit out of Paulie in a boxing match except this idiot.:-(

:|:|:|:|

[C Money]

geez you are the most annoying moron ,, Al bersteine make reference to the fact that Floyd was out with an injury and was for more then 3 months get a clue floyds last fight with castillio was 4/02 spaddy fight with holbaek was 11/02 that a span of 7 months learn to count , and yes he was out of shape do to the injury ..
and as you can see floyd looks around 150 in the video he's a lot bigger then spad and this is when Floyd was fighting at 135 in any case he re matched and beat the king of 135 and I have no doubt he Castillio would have Spad cooking him breakfast but naked with lace apron and house shoes on.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

No YOU ARE THE MORON, talking out your ass.:lol:

FACTS= Floyd fought Carlos Gerena 9-11-1999, Spadafora fought Cornett on 12-17-99 and the sparring took place in the first week of December. PBF fought Gregorio Vargas 3-18-2000.

FLOYD's FIRST OFFICial fight at 35 came on 10/21/2000 vs Emanuel Augustus. Then PBF went back to 30 to fight Corrales and doesnt RESURFACE at 35 until 4/20/2002


YOUR DISMISSED SON!!!

Another Floyd fan bites the dust!!!

[C Money]

Ooo. Sounds like you've been owned C-Money my man. Look, son, Spadafora is good no one's denying that but to believe that he actually beat Floyd or something in a SPARRING match for god's sake ruins any credibility you had and only proves that you are an arm chair boxing fan at best. Anyone who's boxed knows that sparring is just where you work on technique. Spadafora was coming up to a fight in a week or two for god sake and was absolutely going all out on Floyd and all Mayweather did was lay on the ropes and throw the occasional Jab and you act like this shows a domination. :lol: :lol: Get a grip you dumbass Floyd would have put Spadafora into the hospital if they ever fought for real and to say that he ducked him at the same time that he was fighting the Castillo's and Corrale's of the world only shows complete ignorance.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm lining up Evisceration, Pimp C,and Pit and slapping them like the 3 stooges!!


KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU SHOOT YOUR MOUTH OFF!!!


BTW?? WHY DIDNT HE???

:lol: :lol:

[C Money]

This guy C Money is too much. He always talks about Spaddy owning PBF in sparring. Anyone who knows boxing knows PBF beats the shit out of Paulie in a boxing match except this idiot.:-(

Aint nothin to it, but to DO IT:lol:


Read the above facts and LEARN, clowns!!

:lol:

[Silver]

So Floyd went to fight Corrales and Castillo but he ducked Paul Spadafora.

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofltrue. corrales and castillo are better fighters then spadafora and both could probably knock him out. you could even say judah is better then spadafora.

[C Money]

So Floyd went to fight Corrales and Castillo but he ducked Paul Spadafora.

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


Wow!! All it took was some truth about Hamed and suddenly you went insane!!!:lol:

You shoot your mouth off without facts and are now A FUCKING CLOWN!!! Who just got dissed hard by reality.

Yet, that aside?? Who faulted PBf for facing Corrales or Castillo?? Not I!! Yet, the fact remains Spadafora beat Floyd's ass in the gym in dec 99 and THEY NEVER MADE any attempt to rectify it and gain the IBF 35 title until Spadafora hit rehab.


Just love the bitches coming out the woodwork trying to "rationalize' the situation. FACTS are FACTS, and Floyd hasnt fought the best opp and I've always said the incident with Spadafora was just the beginning.

[pit]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm lining up Evisceration, Pimp C,and Pit and slapping them like the 3 stooges!!


KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU SHOOT YOUR MOUTH OFF!!!


BTW?? WHY DIDNT HE???

:lol: :lol:


:roll: what are you some fat 12 yr square ? your owning no one with your limited just started watching the sport boxing last year ass. you can't even formulate your own opinion u fucking goof ball.
everything you every posted as been someone else opinion you fucking parrot !!

[Pimp C]

true. corrales and castillo are better fighters then spadafora and both could probably knock him out. you could even say judah is better then spadafora.
Yeah and the funny thing about it was Paulie was dropped twice by Sosa a guy who fought both PBF and Spaddy.:lol:

[Silver]

Wow!! All it took was some truth about Hamed and suddenly you went insane!!!:lol:

You shoot your mouth off without facts and are now A FUCKING CLOWN!!! Who just got dissed hard by reality.

Yet, that aside?? Who faulted PBf for facing Corrales or Castillo?? Not I!! Yet, the fact remains Spadafora beat Floyd's ass in the gym in dec 99 and THEY NEVER MADE any attempt to rectify it and gain the IBF 35 title until Spadafora hit rehab.


Just love the bitches coming out the woodwork trying to "rationalize' the situation. FACTS are FACTS, and Floyd hasnt fought the best opp and I've always said the incident with Spadafora was just the beginning.but would you say spadafora is a more dangerous opponet then corrales or castillo?

[pit]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

No YOU ARE THE MORON, talking out your ass.:lol:

FACTS= Floyd fought Carlos Gerena 9-11-1999, Spadafora fought Cornett on 12-17-99 and the sparring took place in the first week of December. PBF fought Gregorio Vargas 3-18-2000.

FLOYD's FIRST OFFICial fight at 35 came on 10/21/2000 vs Emanuel Augustus. Then PBF went back to 30 to fight Corrales and doesnt RESURFACE at 35 until 4/20/2002


YOUR DISMISSED SON!!!

Another Floyd fan bites the dust!!!

really where your proff that vid took place in 1999

[Pimp C]

but would you say spadafora is a more dangerous opponet then corrales or castillo?
Of course he would the guy is a hack.:lol:

[C Money]

well its in the past now and all the guys you mentioned are better then spadafora, now anyway. hopfully mayweather gets back in the 147 pound mix. he is still technically the champ there anyway.


Props to you for being able to discuss things in a reasonable fashion even though we may have different opinions on that incident.

ALl any fighter can do is fight thes best and let the facts fall as they may. Spadafora may have very well taken himself out of relevancy with his issue's.

PBF needs to focus on what he can control and fight the top guy's at 47 and cement his legacy.

[Pimp C]

really where your proff that vid took place in 1999
I asked him to post the whole video before and he never did. This guy is so full of shit he stinks.

[brown_bomber]

:|:|:|:|

:lol:

[Silver]

Yeah and the funny thing about it was Paulie was dropped twice by Sosa a guy who fought both PBF and Spaddy.:lol:that is funny since sosa was considerd one of mayweather's weakest opponents yet as you say, he dropped spadafora 2x.

[pit]

I asked him to post the whole video before and he never did. This guy is so full of shit he stinks.

yeah he is .. but listening to the vid you do hear bernstine say the vid was from some years ago .. so Ill give him that .. my bad

but to think paul spad that was down and just about out when he fought sosa if not for the ref giving spad time to recover IMO is going to beat floyd?!?!? this guy dose not have a clue. he would have gotten beat by corrales and Floyd.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Regardless of what you guys thinks, Floyd should have fought him @ 135 rather then Sosa and N'Dou. Those were two 'gimmes' for Floyd. Mayweather vs. Spadafora would have been a real fight.

[Silver]

Props to you for being able to discuss things in a reasonable fashion even though we may have different opinions on that incident.

ALl any fighter can do is fight thes best and let the facts fall as they may. Spadafora may have very well taken himself out of relevancy with his issue's.

PBF needs to focus on what he can control and fight the top guy's at 47 and cement his legacy.thank you. just looking at him as objective as possibe. mayweather has been sccused of ducking people before but the only guy he really seemed to sidestep was margo. but you'll have people saying he ducked guys like casamay, hatton (even though hatton was the one who tuned him down), cotto etc. just hard to believe mayweather DUCKED spadafora when mayweather has gone on to beat better fighters.

[C Money]

really where your proff that vid took place in 1999

Motherfucker, I have the tape in it's entirety and KNOW WHAT, WHEN and HOW IT HAPPENED. There has never been a dispute about the time from PBF's camp because IT"S TRUE!!!:D

Love how you throw out the fact that Floyd was out of shape and Spat was a week from a title fight (HIS 1st DEFENSE) as an excuse as to why it happened but fail to comprehend the meaning:lol:


Face it, you just fucked yourself by spouting shit you're not sure of and trying to talk shit:lol: Dont worry, there's at least two stooges that went with ya:good You shouldnt throw stones when you live in a glass house!!!

[Silver]

Regardless of what you guys thinks, Floyd should have fought him @ 135 rather then Sosa and N'Dou. Those were two 'gimmes' for Floyd. Mayweather vs. Spadafora would have been a real fight.maybe so but apprently sosa was able to compete on the same level with spadafora since that fight was close and he dropped him 2x.

[pit]

Motherfucker, I have the tape in it's entirety and KNOW WHAT, WHEN and HOW IT HAPPENED. There has never been a dispute about the time from PBF's camp because IT"S TRUE!!!:D

Love how you throw out the fact that Floyd was out of shape and Spat was a week from a title fight (HIS 1st DEFENSE) as an excuse as to why it happened but fail to comprehend the meaning:lol:


Face it, you just fucked yourself by spouting shit you're not sure of and trying to talk shit:lol: Dont worry, there's at least two stooges that went with ya:good You shouldnt throw stones when you live in a glass house!!!

yeah yeah motherfucker and Im a decedent of Elvis ..

[C Money]

thank you. just looking at him as objective as possibe. mayweather has been sccused of ducking people before but the only guy he really seemed to sidestep was margo. but you'll have people saying he ducked guys like casamay, hatton (even though hatton was the one who tuned him down), cotto etc. just hard to believe mayweather DUCKED spadafora when mayweather has gone on to beat better fighters.


Hard to believe doesnt equal not true. What I have always said, is that if PBF wasnt ducking him?? It shouldnt have taken 3 years and a rehab to get an offer:good

Either way?? Look at Margo whom you bring up, Williams has claimed to have beaten up Marg in sparring, and Margarito vs Williams is fast approaching. No wondering, no bullshit, and willing to find out 4 real, THAT'S A CHAMPIONSHIP MENTALITY.

We havent seen that from PBF at 35. 40, or 47, YET!!!!!!!!!!

[C Money]

yeah yeah motherfucker and Im a decedent of Elvis ..

No, no, NO,


YOUR A CLUELESS FUCK TALKING SHIT:lol:


My man, you have just buried yourself and still dont realize it:lol:

[Lance_Uppercut]

maybe so but apprently sosa was able to compete on the same level with spadafora since that fight was close and he dropped him 2x.
Meaningless. Sosa lost to Spaddy anyway. But what we had were two undefeated fighters with belts in the same division with a little history between them. WE, as fans, lost out on that for whatever reason. Just another example of the many "What if Floyd fought XXX instead..."

[pit]

Regardless of what you guys thinks, Floyd should have fought him @ 135 rather then Sosa and N'Dou. Those were two 'gimmes' for Floyd. Mayweather vs. Spadafora would have been a real fight.

so are you saying floyd fighting the man at 135 (Castillio) mean nothing and that he should have fought Spad instead ?

[C Money]

Meaningless. Sosa lost to Spaddy anyway. But what we had were two undefeated fighters with belts in the same division with a little history between them. WE, as fans, lost out on that for whatever reason. Just another example of the many "What if Floyd fought XXX instead..."

AND??

SPat beat his ass in the gym, why didnt Floyd want to avenge that??
Especially when there was a legit title to be gained??

Like I said, Marg vs Williams, same kind of scenario and perfect example!!! Dont see Marg ducking him do we??

[C Money]

so are you saying floyd fighting the man at 135 (Castillio) mean nothing and that he should have fought Spad instead ?

NO BITCH, he should have fought BOTH thus posessing the BC, and BF titles. Truthfullly, he should have fought Spat before Castillo as that is 2 years later:lol:

BTW?? STFU!! you've been clowned and dismissed!!!!!

[Silver]

Hard to believe doesnt equal not true. What I have always said, is that if PBF wasnt ducking him?? It shouldnt have taken 3 years and a rehab to get an offer:good

Either way?? Look at Margo whom you bring up, Williams has claimed to have beaten up Marg in sparring, and Margarito vs Williams is fast approaching. No wondering, no bullshit, and willing to find out 4 real, THAT'S A CHAMPIONSHIP MENTALITY.

We havent seen that from PBF at 35. 40, or 47, YET!!!!!!!!!!so you think margo is only fighting williams becasue of what williams claims happened during a sparring match? you have to take into account that he is the no 1. contender for margo's wbo belt. and heres an example for you, ruiz claimed to have dropped lennox lewis in a sparring match. and lewis never fought ruiz.

[Silver]

Meaningless. Sosa lost to Spaddy anyway. But what we had were two undefeated fighters with belts in the same division with a little history between them. WE, as fans, lost out on that for whatever reason. Just another example of the many "What if Floyd fought XXX instead..."you could say that but its in the past. mayweather has gone and beaten better fighters. so the general concesus here is that mayweather would have beaten him anyway. its not definite but who would you put your money on?

[Lance_Uppercut]

so are you saying floyd fighting the man at 135 (Castillio) mean nothing and that he should have fought Spad instead ?
No, i said NOTHING of the sort. No need ot twist my post into meaning what you want it to mean. I said he watsed time w/ N'Dou and Sosa when Spaddy was there.

Just because you and a bunch of others are completly fine with Floyd fighting just anyone, not everyone is.

Especially when there were guys like Casamayor, Freitas, Spaddy, and Johnston around his weight. Now I'm not saying it was Floyd's fault they were never made. But they were all marquee names in the divisions Floyd fought and we got zilch.

Instead we get Floyd vs. N'Dou, Sosa, Corley, Bruselles...

[Lance_Uppercut]

you could say that but its in the past. mayweather has gopne and beaten better fighters. so the general concesus here is that mayweather would have beaten him anyway. its not definite but who would you put your money on?

I don't give a shit on who I or anyone else thinks might have won because it doesn't make it true. The only way to really see is to actually have the fight. I want to see it not just discuss another "what if"...

[C Money]

so you think margo is only fighting williams becasue of what williams claims happened during a sparring match? you have to take into account that he is the no 1. contender for margo's wbo belt. and heres an example for you, ruiz claimed to have dropped lennox lewis in a sparring match. and lewis never fought ruiz.

Not just for that reason, but it is very similar in nature. Williams made an issue of it and has used that as his case for this matchup. Again, Spadafora was the BF champ beating a champ is worth more than a contender, so that only makes it worse for Floyd.

It all comes down to being willing to fight the best comp and Floyd hasnt been willing to do so.

[Lance_Uppercut]

AND??

SPat beat his ass in the gym, why didnt Floyd want to avenge that??
Especially when there was a legit title to be gained??

Like I said, Marg vs Williams, same kind of scenario and perfect example!!! Dont see Marg ducking him do we??

True that.

[pit]

No, no, NO,


YOUR A CLUELESS FUCK TALKING SHIT:lol:


My man, you have just buried yourself and still dont realize it:lol:

then If im clueless talking shit then present the entire vid , not the shit from you tube ass hole ..

you telling me Im clueless has as much sting as mosquito bite , your just annoying nothing more.

as in the vid berstine did say the vid too place 2 year prior . Ill give you that..
but he also make reference that Floyd was out of shape.. Spad has as much claim as Augie shanchez thinking he could be mayweather . one victory happen in the amateur and the other in sparring .. both fighter are in- consistent as hell and where they are in there current boxing career proves it .

[Silver]

I don't give a shit on who I or anyone else thinks might have won because it doesn't make it true. The only way to really see is to actually have the fight. I want to see it not just discuss another "what if"...ok, but you cant fight everybody. so there are match ups that you will wonder about. but no doubt people would have loved to seen him mix it up with freitas and casamayor.

[C Money]

I don't give a shit on who I or anyone else thinks might have won because it doesn't make it true. The only way to really see is to actually have the fight. I want to see it not just discuss another "what if"...


:happy


Btw, Silver?? Had PBF faced Spat in 2000 or 2001?? I would have had $5,000 on Spat:good

Would i have been right or wrong??Couldve, shoulve, we'll never know!!!

I can hear people laughing at that statement, but why such a fuss over a guy MOST BELIEVE would have been EASY MONEY??


Floyd thought the same shit until that December day in 99:lol:

[Lance_Uppercut]

ok, but you cant fight everybody. so there are match ups that you will wonder about. but no doubt people would have loved to seen him mix it up with freitas and casamayor.

No you can't. Which is why Floyd should not have wasted time with Sosa and N'Dou.

[nervousxtian]

Since when the hell did sparring mean shit??

I bet John Paxon outplayed Jordan in some practices too, does mean shit when they start the clock on a real game.

[Silver]

Not just for that reason, but it is very similar in nature. Williams made an issue of it and has used that as his case for this matchup. Again, Spadafora was the BF champ beating a champ is worth more than a contender, so that only makes it worse for Floyd.

It all comes down to being willing to fight the best comp and Floyd hasnt been willing to do so.there are other fights people missed out on like freitas, casamayor at 135. apparently mayweather had the chance to fight vivan harris for his debut at 140 but he fought gatti. and then the margo issue. so there is a list of potential match ups that people wanted to see but comapring then all, mayweather vs. spadafora dosnet seem to be high on that list.

[pit]

No, i said NOTHING of the sort. No need ot twist my post into meaning what you want it to mean. I said he watsed time w/ N'Dou and Sosa when Spaddy was there.

Just because you and a bunch of others are completly fine with Floyd fighting just anyone, not everyone is.

Especially when there were guys like Casamayor, Freitas, Spaddy, and Johnston around his weight. Now I'm not saying it was Floyd's fault they were never made. But they were all marquee names in the divisions Floyd fought and we got zilch.

Instead we get Floyd vs. N'Dou, Sosa, Corley, Bruselles...

No I never said you twisted any thing around I just ask the question .. as far as Casamayor , freitas and spaddy as well as Johnston . these guys are for more inconsistent then Zab.

Casamayor you never knew what your where going to get until fight night and even then he would pull quirky shit during the fight.

Fretas proved that once the tuff got going he quits not once but twice .

Spaddy has a drinking problem as well as other personal problem so large that he went to jail because of it ..

Johnston ?? why would you fight johnston when you can fight the guy that beat him..

these are hardly guys I would called ducked or even feared.. spoilers maybe, maybe , maybe feared hell no. .

[Silver]

No you can't. Which is why Floyd should not have wasted time with Sosa and N'Dou.well thats who he fought. all you can do is judge his resume totally. you have to ask yourself, if they would have fought, would spadafora have been the best fighter mayweahter has fought? if you think so, then you have the fight to be really pissed. if not, then you have to judge based on who he actually did fight.

[C Money]

then If im clueless talking shit then present the entire vid , not the shit from you tube ass hole ..

you telling me Im clueless has as much sting as mosquito bite , your just annoying nothing more.

as in the vid berstine did say the vid too place 2 year prior . Ill give you that..
but he also make reference that Floyd was out of shape.. Spad has as much claim as Augie shanchez thinking he could be mayweather . one victory happen in the amateur and the other in sparring .. both fighter are in- consistent as hell and where they are in there current boxing career proves it .

Ok, so now you want to realize that I'm telling the truth about the time of the incident?? :good BTW, you arent giving me anything, your accepting truth.

Like i told you in the beginning, OUT OF SHAPE was the excuse used but 3 months isnt a LONG LAYOFF and considering Floyd never made an offer until Spadafora hit rehab 3 years later and MrPBF .24/7 "I'm always inshape"?? It's a very slippery slope:lol:

Win, lose, or draw?? Floyd hasnt fough the best in each division since 30 and what if's and could've's dont cut it. All any fighter can do is fight the best and let the chips fall where they may.

Also?? I never put the shit from you-tube up and when and where i would choose to post the vid is relevant to Spat's situation.

[C Money]

there are other fights people missed out on like freitas, casamayor at 135. apparently mayweather had the chance to fight vivan harris for his debut at 140 but he fought gatti. and then the margo issue. so there is a list of potential match ups that people wanted to see but comapring then all, mayweather vs. spadafora dosnet seem to be high on that list.


Maybe it's not high on you're list but it WAS FIRST on the list:good


Fight the best opp and there wouldnt be need for all this:happy

Also, it would have helped SOLIDFY Floyds claim at 35.

[Silver]

Maybe it's not high on you're list but it WAS FIRST on the list:good


Fight the best opp and there wouldnt be need for all this:happyon your list. but hey like you say, there are bigger fish to fry now, cotto, mosley, winner of margo-williams.

[C Money]

Since when the hell did sparring mean shit??

I bet John Paxon outplayed Jordan in some practices too, does mean shit when they start the clock on a real game.

Beating Champions is what matters. Apparently, the sparring persuaded Floyd not to do so.

[C Money]

on your list. but hey like you say, there are bigger fish to fry now, cotto, mosley, winner of margo-williams.

:good

[pit]

Ok, so now you want to realize that I'm telling the truth about the time of the incident?? :good BTW, you arent giving me anything, your accepting truth.

Like i told you in the beginning, OUT OF SHAPE was the excuse used but 3 months isnt a LONG LAYOFF and considering Floyd never made an offer until Spadafora hit rehab 3 years later and MrPBF .24/7 "I'm always inshape"?? It's a very slippery slope:lol:

Win, lose, or draw?? Floyd hasnt fough the best in each division since 30 and what if's and could've's dont cut it. All any fighter can do is fight the best and let the chips fall where they may.

palease if you ever boxed or competed in any 1-1 combat sport at all you know full dame well that being out for 2 months will make you dull as well as lose any type of conditioning .. but in any case ..
Spad is not even a threat not then and not now , the boy drinks to dame much. and the only reason spad went to rehab was to keep from going to jail but again if he was more discipline that wouldn't be an issue.

in short Spad is as much of a head case as Zab with far less pop in his punch and hand speed.

Floyd would have nothing to fear from a soft punching alcoholic Spad .

[RafaelGonzal]

Supposedly, Mark Suarez dropped him in sparring with a body shot years back. There was a story about it on some site prior to Cintron-Suarez. Also, Kid Diamond allegedly broke one of Floyd's ribs in a sparring session.


no wonder he wont ever fight Cotto

[BITCH ASS]

maybe so but apprently sosa was able to compete on the same level with spadafora since that fight was close and he dropped him 2x.

Yeah, but you can't really read too much into that.

Styles make fights and perhaps Sosa's style was wrong for Spafadora. Come on man, you know things like this.

SWARMERS usually don't look good against SLUGGERS, but BOXERS do.

And BOXERS usually don't look good against SWARMERS, but SLUGGERS do.

[Silver]

Yeah, but you can't really read too much into that.

Styles make fights and perhaps Sosa's style was wrong for Spafadora. Come on man, you know things like this.

SWARMERS usually don't look good against SLUGGERS, but BOXERS do.

And BOXERS usually don't look good against SWARMERS, but SLUGGERS do.thats true. but it could mean that a guy like sosa can compete with a guy like spadafora. you don' think that maybe spadafora isnt a whole lot better then sosa. spadafora drew dorin as well. you think he only drew with him because of how they match up? so its not the only time somebody held their own vs. spadafora. dosent mean he could automatcially lose to mayweather but mayweather already beaien better fighters.

[C Money]

palease if you ever boxed or competed in any 1-1 combat sport at all you know full dame well that being out for 2 months will make you dull as well as lose any type of conditioning .. but in any case ..
Spad is not even a threat not then and not now , the boy drinks to dame much. and the only reason spad went to rehab was to keep from going to jail but again if he was more discipline that wouldn't be an issue.

in short Spad is as much of a head case as Zab with far less pop in his punch and hand speed.

Floyd would have nothing to fear from a soft punching alcoholic Spad .


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Uh, yes Spat was threat and a Champ and the only time Floyd stepped in with him, he got beat on:good

BTW, I fought as an amatuer in 99 and I'm aware of what time off can do. But ask yoyrself 1 question, If you were so out of shape, why would you seek out a Champ a division above you who was a week and a half from a title defense to spar with??:huh Floyd's camp would have to have been dumber than dumb to allow a grossly out of shape Floyd to take such action:lol: We all know they arent that stupid, there's way too much family history and experience. The trutrh is, out of shape was more excuse than anything else but they had to say something:D

Whether or not Spadafora can overcome his problems remains to be seen. PLEASE DONT FORGET that Floyd is NO ANGEL either:good You dont know that much about Spadafora, the situation, or his personal life to make the assumptions you do. Yes, Spat used to drink between fights but was always right in camp and preperation. Many fighters do the same, they are HUMAN after all. Every man has to be responsible for himself and his actions but Ms. Russo caused more problems and issues for Spadafora than you could shake a stick at, including drugs which was something HE DIDNT HAVE ANY HISTORY with prior to her arrival.

[C Money]

Yeah, but you can't really read too much into that.

Styles make fights and perhaps Sosa's style was wrong for Spafadora. Come on man, you know things like this.

SWARMERS usually don't look good against SLUGGERS, but BOXERS do.

And BOXERS usually don't look good against SWARMERS, but SLUGGERS do.

Sosa caught him behind the ear with a looping shot as Spat slipped the rest of the combo. Spat got up and WON the fight.

Styles make fights but other than that round Spadafora handled a game and UNDEFEATED Soas at that time.

[C Money]

thats true. but it could mean that a guy like sosa can compete with a guy like spadafora. you don' think that maybe spadafora isnt a whole lot better then sosa. spadafora drew dorin as well. you think he only drew with him because of how they match up? so its not the only time somebody held their own vs. spadafora. dosent mean he could automatcially lose to mayweather but mayweather already beaien better fighters.


Dorin?? That performance was INDICATIVE of the behind the scene's ISSUES Spat was having!! No excuses, and I'd still like to see a rematch but Spadafora was NOT 100% right for that fight and not long after:gun it spilled out with Ms. Russo.

[Silver]

Dorin?? That performance was INDICATIVE of the behind the scene's ISSUES Spat was having!! No excuses, and I'd still like to see a rematch but Spadafora was NOT 100% right for that fight and not long after:gun it spilled out with Ms. Russo.maybe your right.

[nervousxtian]

Floyd probably would of beat Spaddy convincingly but we'll never know.. because Spadafora is a fucking nut job who shot his girlfriend and Floyd is probably done for good, and if he does come back, it's not for a fight with Spadafora, it'd be for an old Shane Mosley in a couple years.

[C Money]

maybe your right.

Obviously, i have an inside perspective on Spadafora and whether anyone agree's about whether Spat could beat PBF or not is fine. But if there is 1 thing which is UNDENIABLE?? Ms. Russo has had a tremendously NEGATIVE impact on Spadafora. The cracks in the facade began to show in the Dorin fight.

As i said earlier, despit the fact that he moved to another city since his first release from jail and the judges order's for NO CONTACT, she moves to Erie and has YET AGAIN caused him problems and threatened to endanger and neglected his son. She also had and GAVE UP two other children before the age of 18 and is by NO MEANS a capable parent.

Hopefully?? The vioaltion hearing he await,s will factor the psychotic nature of this woman into account. It's a very tough situation with the child involved. In a perfect world?? The child should be removed from Russo's "care" and could live with Spadafora and his new wife to be and mother of his two daughters with strict NO CONTACT order which would PLACE BOTH IN JAIL for any contact. There's no telling if his new wife to be would be accepting of such arrangement but with a child caught up in an INSANE scenario it's a continual problem waiting to happen.

[Lance_Uppercut]

No I never said you twisted any thing around I just ask the question .. as far as Casamayor , freitas and spaddy as well as Johnston . these guys are for more inconsistent then Zab.

Casamayor you never knew what your where going to get until fight night and even then he would pull quirky shit during the fight.

Fretas proved that once the tuff got going he quits not once but twice .

Spaddy has a drinking problem as well as other personal problem so large that he went to jail because of it ..

Johnston ?? why would you fight johnston when you can fight the guy that beat him..

these are hardly guys I would called ducked or even feared.. spoilers maybe, maybe , maybe feared hell no. .

As long as Floyd has fans like you, he'll never have to face a challenge. :-(

[C Money]

Floyd probably would of beat Spaddy convincingly but we'll never know.. because Spadafora is a fucking nut job who shot his girlfriend and Floyd is probably done for good, and if he does come back, it's not for a fight with Spadafora, it'd be for an old Shane Mosley in a couple years.


Couldve, wouldve, shoulve, DIDNT!!!!!

As for Spat?? The woman he got tangled up with is ceratinly MORE NUTS than he. He did not have a history of the problems that arose after her arrival.

Spadafora was just the beginning for Floyd, he hasnt fought the best at 40 or 47 either.It's time to start PROVING SHIT, not retiring.
CLEARLY, Fighters and issues at 47 are more relevant at the moment than Spadafora.

FUCK A COUPLE YEARS, it's right NOW with SSM, Margarito vs Williams winner, Cotto, and perhaps Hatton:good

[nervousxtian]

Spadafora is the only one to blame for his own problems. Don't make excuses for him. The man should be in jail still for the shit he did.

[bigtime9]

As long as Floyd has fans like you, he'll never have to face a challenge. :-(

38 fights beat 4 hofers and he has never faced a challenge..you sound reatarded. you must mean he has never been beaten up:lol:

[C Money]

Spadafora is the only one to blame for his own problems. Don't make excuses for him. The man should be in jail still for the shit he did.

Guess what?? HE WENT TO JAIL then boot camp for WHAT HE DID and I MADE NO EXCUSES and said every man is responsble for his actions.

So uh...you can FUCK OFF!! The same woman he shot is now chasing him around the country, been neglectful towards his young son, and is pissed because he's marrying another woman.:-( :-( :-(

Thanks for you're wonderfully irrelevant comment:lol:

[C Money]

38 fights beat 4 hofers and he has never faced a challenge..you sound reatarded. you must mean he has never been beaten up:lol:


You are retraded FAGTIME9 and Floyd hasnt faced the top opposition at 35,40, or 47 so while 'fans"(dickriders) like you are impressed??

The history of Champions overshadow's floyd's BS!!

It's not too late to change it and if he did? I'd give him the proper respect he would DESERVE.

BUT IT HAS TO HAPPEN TO BE REAL:good

[pit]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Uh, yes Spat was threat and a Champ and the only time Floyd stepped in with him, he got beat on:good

BTW, I fought as an amatuer in 99 and I'm aware of what time off can do. But ask yoyrself 1 question, If you were so out of shape, why would you seek out a Champ a division above you who was a week and a half from a title defense to spar with??:huh Floyd's camp would have to have been dumber than dumb to allow a grossly out of shape Floyd to take such action:lol: We all know they arent that stupid, there's way too much family history and experience. The trutrh is, out of shape was more excuse than anything else but they had to say something:D

Whether or not Spadafora can overcome his problems remains to be seen. PLEASE DONT FORGET that Floyd is NO ANGEL either:good You dont know that much about Spadafora, the situation, or his personal life to make the assumptions you do. Yes, Spat used to drink between fights but was always right in camp and preperation. Many fighters do the same, they are HUMAN after all. Every man has to be responsible for himself and his actions but Ms. Russo caused more problems and issues for Spadafora than you could shake a stick at, including drugs which was something HE DIDNT HAVE ANY HISTORY with prior to her arrival.

hey like it was mentioned in the video floyd wanted the work after being out for so long no doubt to gauge where his condition was at ,fighters do that all the time .. big deal

but as far Spad problem it a very big problem when your fighting the best in the business , if he can't keep his priorities straight out side ring how is he going to do inside ?

Floyd is a step up for spad not the other way around , and like I said he has nothing on his punches at 135 nor the speed to even match floyd physically and mentally this fight is a mismatch .. Spad win in sparing will be the closest he will ever come to beating a Floyd and beating floyd at less then a 100% ant saying shit infact it nothing to brag about.